Under the Skin | Aliens, Feminism, and a Look at Humanity
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Under the Skin | Aliens, Feminism, and a Look at Humanity

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Chapters

00:00:00 Intro & Game

00:22:11 Overview & Fun Facts

00:44:41 Ratings 00:50:53 Would We Survive

00:52:31 Next Week: Devil


00:00:26
Hello.

00:00:28
Happy Tuesday.

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happy Tuesday.

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It is...

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October!

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It sure is.

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Officially spooky month.

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It is, yes.

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My favorite time of the year.

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I don't know about you.

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Well, my favorite holiday of the year.

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It is like, yeah.

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But I do, I like fall because at least where I live it's still nice out in October and it's Halloween.

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But the end of it, it's kind of like, oh shit, now it's winter, that's sad.

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Yeah, it doesn't get nice here until winter.

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Yeah, that's awful.

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Yeah.

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anyways, this isn't a weather podcast.

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Too bad.

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New Patreon episodes talking about the weather.

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That's it.

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That's the whole thing.

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Mm-hmm.

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We're here to talk about under the skin.

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We are, we are, but first, oh, but first we have a little game to play just because, you know, we like to break up the news segments a little bit.

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Yeah, I hate doing the news.

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I'll just say it.

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It was my idea.

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I keep saying we can get rid of the news and you keep saying no, we have to keep the news.

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I hate it.

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That's all.

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Yeah.

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we don't even do for the podcast what would make the news segment successful, which is right about it in the caption of That's on me.

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In the caption of the what?

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of the podcast for search engine optimization.

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Yeah.

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That's OK.

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That's my bad.

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Someday.

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It's just if we if we don't keep doing the news, then I'll never have the chance.

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Yeah.

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to keep doing it until you put it in the tags and then we end the segment immediately after.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Anyway, okay.

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I think I'm gonna feed you some taglines first.

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So yeah, we're gonna guess the taglines of horror movies, only the ones that we've done.

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So we have 145-ish, 150-ish from which to choose.

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Exactly, yes.

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I didn't do any sequels.

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no, I didn't.

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I was gonna do Doctor Sleep, but they were all like Stephen King, The Shining.

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Yeah, like Danny.

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were like very obvious.

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I almost did misery, but it ends in like, this winter, it will bring you misery.

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I'm like, oh, well, I can't do that.

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little, yeah, two on the nose.

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Okay, mine are in order of what I perceive to be easiest to hardest.

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We'll see if that aligns.

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uh first, this one's easy and it's also my favorite one I found.

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If an old man warns you not to go there, make fun of him.

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Cabin in the woods.

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Nice.

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They had a bunch that were silly like that.

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Yeah, I almost did one of those too.

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I didn't see that one, but I saw like three of them listed in IMDB with like a click more and I was like, dang, they really tag-lined it up.

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yeah.

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Okay, next one.

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This collection is killer.

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This collection is killed?

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VHS?

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nice, okay.

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I was like, what's a collection?

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I immediately thought of the collector series, but I was like, we didn't do an episode on that, I'm pretty sure.

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No, that's okay.

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I think we watched it in Discord with some of our friends, so I was like, did we do an episode on that?

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But we didn't.

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I still, to this day, I think we did an episode on sinners and we still haven't.

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We still have it.

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What you can't see can hurt you.

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What you can't see can hurt you.

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Mm-hmm.

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It follows?

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No, you can see that.

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Yeah, it's like the, it represents as someone you know, remember?

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It's like a person walking towards you.

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correct.

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what you can't see can hurt you.

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Yes.

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The names in the tagline.

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Hello?

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Hahaha!

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Not literally.

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Oh, okay, I was like, huh?

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thinking a little too hard.

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Yeah.

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Do you want a little hint?

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No.

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What?

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Yeah, give me a hint.

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If I change one word, what you or I'll change a couple words.

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What she can't see can hurt her.

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A she?

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I always imagine a woman though.

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Why would a man be there?

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Exactly.

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Is the man there?

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Who's to say?

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Oh, that feels like a hint.

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Is the man there?

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You literally just had the title, like.

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Why do- why is like nothing coming to mind?

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my god, The Invisible Man!

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Duh!

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my god!

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That is so obvious, I can't- I kind of just forgot The Invisible Man existed.

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Sorry.

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That movie does slap.

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I thank Leigh Whannell every day for that movie.

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Yeah.

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Okay, this one's a classic.

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That's probably a clue I shouldn't have given you, but that's okay.

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Be afraid, be very afraid.

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that's the fly.

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That should have been number one, Katie.

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That's the remake.

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She says it in the movie.

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She does.

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Which I didn't remember.

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just remember that be very afraid is a joke from the fly that they also joke about in like Aladdin or something.

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No, that was the spider scene.

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Well, that's that's the Emperor's New Groove.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, anyway.

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OK, sort of getting a little harder, but maybe not.

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OK, ready?

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Watch yourself.

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Watch yourself.

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triangle.

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No, but that's solid.

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Yeah, that's pretty solid.

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But like same vibes, sort of.

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I mean, you're on the right track.

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Yes, us.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I was like doubles, gotta be.

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Okay.

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One way in, no way out.

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The descent.

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Oh, that would have been so good.

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Yeah.

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It's not cave.

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I know.

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The ritual?

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Oh.

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I think if, do you want a hint?

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I think technically.

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Something comes out.

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twice.

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That somehow made it more confusing.

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Something comes out twice.

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It's not the same thing that goes in, allegedly.

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That also makes me think of the fly.

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Because he's like teleporting, know?

00:07:22
Yeah, yeah.

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The entire movie is about going into something.

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and it's a book.

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that we've read.

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No?

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Mm-hmm.

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together.

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The only thing I'm thinking of is the Shining and Dr.

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Sleep.

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But that doesn't make sense.

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No, it doesn't.

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Oh, I don't remember all the books we read together.

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That's like the one thing in my life that I do remember.

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That's beautiful.

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Yeah.

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annihilation.

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Ohhhh

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They go into the shimmer.

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It's a suicide mission.

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Sort of.

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It's implied that it's not them that comes out.

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Yeah, but they're like, it's a suicide mission except this one guy who made it out and then they go in.

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She's like, I also made it out.

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So it doesn't seem that not anyone getting outy to me.

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I guess.

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Well, that's why I said two people make it out, but do they?

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Yeah, yeah, that's, that's fair.

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That's very fair.

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Okay.

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m

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this one I don't think I could get.

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I don't actually think I could get any of these.

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the only way out, what is it with a ways out?

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The only way out lies within your own mind.

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That like honestly doesn't even make sense for this movie.

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Jacob's Ladder?

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Oh.

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production value as the remake.

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Give him a rink?

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Oh.

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I forgot that movie existed.

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I've been feeling like I need to re-watch it.

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Is that weird?

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No, I might be interested in that also, actually.

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It's been a while.

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Yeah, I wanna do it like the right way.

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Like I wanna like go lay in my bed and like watch it on a laptop with some headphones in and see if that matters, you know?

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I don't know.

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Okay, what was it again?

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Sorry, finding your way out through your mind.

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adjacent.

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The only way out lies within your own mind.

00:09:31
insidious.

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No.

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I don't even know how to give you a hint for this one.

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Because it's honestly, it's not, it makes no sense.

00:09:43
Okay, well no, I mean...

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I think someone gets out.

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Okay.

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And they don't have to go in, they're just in.

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They start in.

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Cube?

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Shut the fuck up.

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That's Cube?

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that a weird one?

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I almost didn't do that one because I was like, does this even make sense?

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But I figured I was just forgetting something.

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I feel like they could have come up with something better.

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Yeah.

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Hmm, interesting.

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Okay, three more for me.

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It's not the house that's haunted.

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End of sentence?

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Great.

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Amityville Horror.

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The Conjuring.

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Close fish, sort of.

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Keep that in your back pocket.

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Insidious.

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I went just down the ladder of haunted house movies.

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Evil loves innocence.

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The Omen?

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Oh.

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When Evil Lurks.

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No.

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Keep that in your back pocket.

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Evil loves innocence?

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That just gives like kid, like child.

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Great, okay, I just want to make sure it was on the right track.

00:11:02
I have a fire clue for this one.

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Yeah, hit me.

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Okay, the poster for this movie is like basically the weapons poster.

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kids running.

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No, okay, let me rephrase.

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The poster for this movie is like basically a scene out of the weapons.

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There were a lot of scenes and weapons.

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Yeah.

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The classroom scene in weapons.

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No.

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That's a good guess though.

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Thank you.

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I'm trying to think of all the movies we did with kids in it.

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You have said the name of this movie in the last 15 minutes and 12 seconds.

00:11:38
No!

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all the movies that I said.

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Genuinely, you've said it in the last probably two minutes and 15 seconds.

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Amityville Horror?

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The Conjuring?

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Yes.

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It's a contrary.

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Okay.

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Last one.

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There's no point in praying.

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Yes.

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That one was really hard.

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That one was really hard and you want to know something funny?

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That was the last one on my list.

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Yeah, I didn't realize now I would have.

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That's kind of a little bit of a cheat because I had it too, but I guess there's just as good of a chance you could have looked up one of the ones I do.

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All right, ready?

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Yep, I'm gonna do my best.

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I've got the list open.

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I believe in you.

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Starting out easy.

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In space, no one can hear you scream.

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Perfect.

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See, you gotta toss you like a low ball just to get your confidence up.

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All right, next one.

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Live or die, make your choice.

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Make your choice.

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saw, Once I saw it, I was like,

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nodding crazily until you get it.

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Okay, getting a little bit harder.

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The only way out is down.

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There are a lot of only way outs.

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There's only, but yeah, they love to tell us where the way out is.

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The only way out is down.

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The only way out is down, of course.

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Is it a cave?

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Kind of?

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Kind of.

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Yes, but like, no, there's another name for where they're at.

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You know this one.

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You do.

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uh

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The only way out is down?

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Mm-hmm.

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As above, so below.

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so below.

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It's so below you have to go out.

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I knew you'd get it.

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All right, next up succumb to the darkness.

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that could be any movie we've ever done.

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Yeah, but you'll get it.

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succumb to the darkness.

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Mhm

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Are you sure I'll get it?

00:14:06
Mm-hmm.

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Do you want a clue?

00:14:09
Yes, please.

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succumb to the darkness.

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Well, no, but succumb.

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Sex.

00:14:21
What?

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That's not helping me.

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And the faces you're making are certainly not helping.

00:14:30
You rated this movie very high, sexy.

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It's very high sexy.

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very high sexy.

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Think like it's a more recent movie.

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Okay.

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came out not that long ago.

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Smile.

00:14:50
Is it smile?

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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It's a period piece.

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Crimson Peak!

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No.

00:15:02
What other period pieces are there?

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Like that's the...

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That's a period piece if there ever was one.

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The witch?

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No.

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But...

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Closer, I'm getting closer.

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the deer man, the man deer.

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that's not a piece.

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No, no, no,

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What was that movie called?

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ritual.

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unbelievably related to the witch in some way, shape, form.

00:15:34
Is it an Eggers movie?

00:15:36
I don't remember what Eggers movies there are.

00:15:39
Katie, we've only watched two.

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I know, and out of 140...

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The witch and I don't remember.

00:15:50
Nosferatu?

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Oh my god.

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I forgot that was Robert Eggers.

00:15:57
Dr.

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Eggers, I'm so sorry.

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It is, yeah.

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Oops.

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I thought you'd get that one too, I'm not gonna lie, sorry.

00:16:06
Sorry.

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It's a cum.

00:16:10
Yeah, you're so right though.

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That was a good clue.

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in hindsight.

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They are doing that sometimes in the movie.

00:16:19
All right.

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Man is the warmest place to hide.

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The thing.

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Did you see that on your, your rear-looking?

00:16:29
Yeah?

00:16:32
Yeah.

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See, I didn't do it because I was like, there's no way she's gonna even remember the thing.

00:16:37
So I put it higher on the hard list.

00:16:42
All right, next up, if you talk to them, they will answer.

00:16:46
That's the name of the movie.

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Talk to me.

00:16:50
Easy, that one was easy.

00:16:55
Mm-hmm.

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All right.

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It doesn't think.

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It doesn't feel.

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It doesn't give up.

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No thinking, no feeling, no giving up.

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don't say it, don't think it.

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Hahaha

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grudge.

00:17:11
No.

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It's a good guess though.

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the other one that's like the grudge.

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The ring?

00:17:20
No.

00:17:20
Yeah.

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I'm glad you knew what I was talking about.

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Halloween.

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Good guess, but no.

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Zombeavers?

00:17:28
uh

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Malignant oh that was I remember it's not malignant

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Give me a hint.

00:17:38
Yeah.

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Half of the title is in the tagline.

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It follows.

00:17:45
Okay, whew, whew.

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All right, next one.

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Maybe love will set you free.

00:17:53
Yeah.

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Lisa Frankenstein.

00:17:56
No, but good guess.

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Thank you.

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free.

00:17:59
Mandy?

00:18:00
No.

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just feel like a horror movie you know?

00:18:05
You're like, you're there, you're on the right track.

00:18:07
Yeah.

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Honeymoon?

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Okay.

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Oh, perhaps bones and all?

00:18:15
Perhaps.

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Yes, it's Bones and All.

00:18:19
Excellent.

00:18:20
Alright, two more.

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Okay, these are the hardest ones.

00:18:25
okay.

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that, I don't know, some of the ones I thought were gonna be easier for you haven't been, so I don't know.

00:18:32
Alright, everything you fear is under the surface.

00:18:36
Everything you fear.

00:18:39
The descent as above so below.

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No, I just picked two taglines from the same movie.

00:18:47
Lake Mungo.

00:18:49
No.

00:18:52
Tremors!

00:18:54
Oh man.

00:18:55
Thank you, thank you.

00:18:57
What?

00:18:59
Nothing.

00:19:01
Nothing.

00:19:02
Actually no, me laughing is your clue.

00:19:05
What's the clue?

00:19:06
Give me the clue.

00:19:06
I want the clue.

00:19:07
Your clue is that we have mentioned this movie probably more than any other movie on our podcast.

00:19:16
No.

00:19:17
That and this have been the ones that we talked about the most.

00:19:23
Ew, is it terrifying?

00:19:25
No.

00:19:27
But ew.

00:19:28
You're on the right track with ew.

00:19:31
What do mean?

00:19:32
We talk about it because it's bad.

00:19:35
Oh.

00:19:37
Night Swim?

00:19:37
Oh my God.

00:19:41
Oh yeah, that checks out.

00:19:42
That sounds right actually, yeah.

00:19:44
I agree with that tagline.

00:19:47
Yeah.

00:19:48
All right, last one.

00:19:50
Okay.

00:19:51
Let me tell you a story.

00:19:54
That's it.

00:19:55
Mm-hmm.

00:19:57
about a guy who lives in a blue world.

00:20:00
Alright, yeah, tell me a story.

00:20:03
Who's telling me the story?

00:20:04
Exactly.

00:20:06
Okay, I'm cooking.

00:20:08
I'm cooking.

00:20:11
What's the gorge?

00:20:13
Oh, that's the one with what's your face?

00:20:15
Mm-hmm.

00:20:16
Did we ever watch Dead Silence?

00:20:18
What's Dead Silence?

00:20:20
Dead Silence is the one, remember when we did our three, like, best of the bad?

00:20:24
That was the one with the...

00:20:26
the puppet.

00:20:28
yeah, that was kind of fun.

00:20:29
Yeah, this is kind of fun.

00:20:32
Okay, what was it again?

00:20:35
Let me tell you a story.

00:20:38
Heretic?

00:20:39
No.

00:20:41
but kind of, kind of a good guess.

00:20:46
Okay.

00:20:47
Good to know.

00:20:48
Like think of like the barest of bones of that and be like, what movie was also kind of that?

00:20:56
The barest of bones of heretic.

00:20:59
Yeah.

00:21:01
So kidnapping.

00:21:05
Guy traps you at his house.

00:21:08
Yeah.

00:21:09
Is it a people eating people movie?

00:21:13
No.

00:21:14
Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

00:21:16
No.

00:21:18
That's several guys.

00:21:20
That's a whole family, eh

00:21:24
god, this is embarrassing.

00:21:27
Tusk!

00:21:29
It's Tusk!

00:21:32
It is Tusk.

00:21:33
I knew you'd get it.

00:21:35
Yeah, I saw the word Tusk.

00:21:36
I was like, my God.

00:21:40
Yeah, thought I'd ended on your two favorite movies.

00:21:42
Thank you, yeah, well, I do love Tusk.

00:21:47
Unironically, very good movie.

00:21:50
Some people think.

00:21:53
and one of them.

00:21:54
Wow, okay.

00:21:55
Well, that was fun.

00:21:56
I hope everybody got to play along and they're smarter than me.

00:22:01
And me.

00:22:05
Well, fun.

00:22:07
We'll do news next week.

00:22:08
Oh man.

00:22:09
I'm just kidding.

00:22:12
Okay, well, anyway, we're here today to talk about Under the Skin, the 2014 sci-fi horror directed by Jonathan Glazer and brought to us by A24.

00:22:24
I'll give you a little overview.

00:22:27
Disguising itself as a human female, an extraterrestrial drives around Scotland attempting to lure unsuspecting men into her van.

00:22:35
Once there, she seduces and sends them into another dimension where they are nothing more than meat.

00:22:42
In hindsight, that's a very strange summary.

00:22:45
I don't know that it quite hits all the notes, ah but that's from Google.

00:22:53
It's like technically correct, but I feel like you'd read that and think you're gonna watch a very different movie.

00:22:59
Yeah.

00:23:00
Anyway, it stars Scarlett Johansson and Adam Pearson.

00:23:03
It had a $13.3 million estimated budget and made about $7.5 million at the World Wide Box office.

00:23:10
It has a 6.3 out of 10 on IMDb, a 3.6 out of 5 on Letterboxd, and a 55 % audience and 83 % critic score for a nearly 30 % spread on Rotten Tomatoes.

00:23:23
It is quite the disparity.

00:23:26
Find out where we fall soon.

00:23:28
I actually don't remember if I actually rated this movie.

00:23:32
No, I did.

00:23:33
And I agree with that rating.

00:23:35
This is a little lynchian, no?

00:23:37
Yeah, absolutely.

00:23:39
Definitely surreal.

00:23:41
that surreal, but it was.

00:23:46
No, nothing is.

00:23:50
No.

00:23:52
But it definitely does have that surrealist, a touch of it, a vibe of it.

00:23:59
Yeah.

00:24:00
Yeah.

00:24:01
But at its core, it's just an alien harvesting bodies.

00:24:05
Just an alien chowing down.

00:24:09
Well, not even.

00:24:11
And then gaining empathy.

00:24:15
Yeah.

00:24:15
might say.

00:24:17
One night.

00:24:19
I love this Selkie theory.

00:24:21
Did you read that one?

00:24:22
I did.

00:24:23
I read all the theories about what she might be.

00:24:27
Do you want to get into them?

00:24:30
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:32
Because I've always wanted to write a book about selkies.

00:24:35
Yeah.

00:24:37
The theory is that she's a selkie instead of an alien, which selkies are mythological creatures found in Scottish, Irish and Icelandic folklore.

00:24:47
They're seals or sea lions in the sea.

00:24:50
and then they shed their seal skin to become humans when they're on land.

00:24:56
So very much, I can't think of anything that is like that.

00:25:00
Werewolf-y maybe?

00:25:02
Full moon, you're a wolf, yeah.

00:25:05
Yeah.

00:25:06
Which apparently, by the way, I didn't know this was based on a book, but it is.

00:25:12
Yeah, I found that out when I was researching it.

00:25:15
I didn't know.

00:25:17
But apparently in the book, alien does not have like a humanoid figure.

00:25:24
They're more like fox-like.

00:25:28
So like a little bit more in that like wolf vein.

00:25:31
is I guess what they're described as.

00:25:35
Yeah, she has to like basically go through like a surgical procedure to make her look more human.

00:25:44
Oh, so she does eventually look human and she's seducing men.

00:25:48
yes, but like, you know, at the end when she like her skin gets pulled off and it's like this humanoid figure underneath, it's that like wouldn't be book accurate, I guess.

00:25:59
But I also feel like the book that actually makes more sense to me as to why she's like going through this existential crisis so badly.

00:26:07
Because in the book, it's like because she had to literally change her entire exterior, which I guess she did in the movie, too, but like not as severe maybe.

00:26:16
Mm-hmm.

00:26:19
I'm not gonna hold you at the scene where she takes off the skin under the skin.

00:26:25
Kind of gave me the same.

00:26:27
Definitely did not hit the same, but like adjacent as.

00:26:33
Annihilation.

00:26:34
As I was watching it, I was like, I wonder if Katie's like getting that vibe because I started to too.

00:26:40
Yeah.

00:26:40
Yeah, it was nowhere near as good because the music was just not as good.

00:26:45
It was almost a little corny.

00:26:46
The music, I didn't hate it like it wasn't bad or anything.

00:26:51
eh

00:26:53
I kind of liked it.

00:26:55
Yeah, I didn't mind it.

00:26:58
It just didn't hit the same as annihilation, you know?

00:27:01
Yeah, you don't have to say you liked it just because I did.

00:27:03
That's okay.

00:27:03
Okay.

00:27:05
was just a little like it felt like out of place maybe.

00:27:09
Yeah, I think that's why I liked it, because it felt like almost uncomfortable.

00:27:14
Like a little like...

00:27:15
a little wrong, you know?

00:27:18
Which made sense, like, with the scene, I guess.

00:27:21
I don't know.

00:27:23
I accept your.

00:27:25
feelings towards that.

00:27:26
Thank you.

00:27:28
One day I'm gonna be the music expert on this podcast.

00:27:32
Maybe.

00:27:33
You can stick to horror.

00:27:37
Damn.

00:27:40
Okay.

00:27:41
Anyway, Selkies, I never finished my thought.

00:27:46
No, it's okay.

00:27:47
No, it's fine.

00:27:48
em They're in their human form.

00:27:51
They're more like sirens.

00:27:52
They're known to have great seductive powers.

00:27:56
em So yeah, but it was confirmed that the female, which is the formal title for Scarlett Johansson's character, is an alien from another planet.

00:28:09
It's confirmed.

00:28:10
Yeah, there were quite a few different theories about like what she might be.

00:28:14
And then Glazer was like, nah, she's an alien.

00:28:18
Which makes sense, because in the book, I think it's pretty clear that she's an alien, so.

00:28:22
Yeah.

00:28:23
Was the woman that she takes into the van.

00:28:28
Also an alien or was that just a human that she killed to take their clothes?

00:28:33
I think it was just a person they incapacitated to take their clothes.

00:28:39
I can't speak on the movie.

00:28:41
I know in the book, her and her boss are the only two that have undergone this procedure, so there is no one that she would rob.

00:28:49
So if I'm combining the two, even though I do believe the movie is like a pretty loose adaptation of the book, if we're combining them, I would say, no, it was just a person.

00:28:59
Got it.

00:29:01
Yeah, quite the shock when that scene popped up.

00:29:04
Yeah?

00:29:05
Yeah, just like, God, there's Scarlett Johansson.

00:29:08
Naked?

00:29:10
Yeah.

00:29:12
People can't stop talking about how she was naked in this.

00:29:15
Which is, I think, the point.

00:29:18
Yeah, and also interesting as well.

00:29:20
Well, okay, so Jonathan Glazer said that he wanted this to be a look at humanity and not necessarily gendered.

00:29:26
ah But he's wrong.

00:29:28
This is clearly a movie that is about gender, whether he wanted it to be or not.

00:29:36
But I also think, yeah, the fact that so many people were talking about her nude scenes, despite the fact that they are not presented in any sexual way whatsoever in the movie, I

00:29:46
don't think.

00:29:48
people still know that she was still on like the, what is it, Mr.

00:29:52
Skin.

00:29:53
He still put her at like number one in his best nude scenes for women, like just overly sexualized it even though it wasn't, which I mean that in and of itself is a commentary on

00:30:02
gender and how people perceive that.

00:30:06
Yeah.

00:30:07
Yeah.

00:30:09
I didn't know who Mr.

00:30:10
Skin was.

00:30:10
Who is Mr.

00:30:11
Skin?

00:30:12
Oh, Mr.

00:30:14
I don't know if he's really a man, more like an entity.

00:30:17
But Mr.

00:30:18
Skin was a website where you could go on there and search celebrities and it would pull up their nude scene, like movies that they were nude in.

00:30:26
Yeah.

00:30:28
Are there men also on the?

00:30:31
You know, I never visited Mr.

00:30:33
Skin, but from what I know, I believe it was just women.

00:30:36
Wow, that's terrible.

00:30:38
Yeah.

00:30:39
Why would a man be there?

00:30:41
Well, yeah, and did you say did you say this already that the film is now considered one of the more important commentaries on gender?

00:30:53
I didn't, but yes.

00:30:55
That's again, not what Jonathan Glazer intended, but I mean, even Scarlett Johansson made comments about how it's not supposed to be sexualized.

00:31:05
Like that's not the point.

00:31:06
She's an alien.

00:31:07
Yeah, and even without the nudity, it's just crazy to me.

00:31:11
that a man could stumble upon a movie that I think has this interesting of a topic.

00:31:21
There's a lot about this movie that people talk about, right?

00:31:23
There's a lot that people can draw from it.

00:31:25
There's a lot of comparisons that can be made.

00:31:27
There's a lot of commentary that can made about it, almost entirely about gender.

00:31:32
So that a man just made a movie that he was trying to comment on humanity, but because the lead is

00:31:40
female presenting, it's inherently about gender.

00:31:45
How'd he stumble upon that, you know?

00:31:46
It's crazy.

00:31:48
Mm-hmm.

00:31:49
Hmm, it's almost like humanity is just really bad at protecting women or supporting with just women.

00:32:00
Women.

00:32:00
Yeah.

00:32:02
humanity's bad at women.

00:32:04
More fun facts?

00:32:06
Yeah, more fun facts.

00:32:08
The opening voiceover of the alien practicing human speech is taken from actual audio of Scarlett Johansson when she was working on her English accent for the movie.

00:32:19
I thought that was kind of fun.

00:32:21
What?

00:32:23
Scarlett Johansson?

00:32:26
did I?

00:32:28
I don't know.

00:32:30
I didn't mean to.

00:32:31
Does that help?

00:32:33
Yeah,

00:32:33
the audio from the beginning was...

00:32:36
Yeah, her dialogue coaching.

00:32:39
That's fun.

00:32:41
Yeah, I like that a lot.

00:32:42
Yeah, my favorite fun fact about this one, not to like jump the gun or anything, is that the men that were lured into the van were not actors.

00:32:52
They were like men and there was hidden cameras inside the van that Scarlett was in.

00:32:59
And they only told him after the fact, hey, by the way, you're going to be in a movie.

00:33:04
Yeah, imagine getting picked up by a stranger and then having a camera crew come out and be like, by the way, do want to be in a movie?

00:33:12
Yeah and also like wasn't Scarlett Johansson like around by now?

00:33:15
Like didn't they recognize her?

00:33:17
You would think so.

00:33:19
2013?

00:33:19
I feel like she'd done stuff by then.

00:33:22
She wasn't the name that she was.

00:33:25
Was she?

00:33:27
In 2013?

00:33:28
I don't know when the Avengers started.

00:33:31
her first film as Black Widow was in 2012.

00:33:36
That doesn't sound right.

00:33:37
No, because Iron Man came out- was that the first Avengers?

00:33:41
Her first film as Black Widow was in 2012.

00:33:46
For some reason I thought she was Black Widow...

00:33:48
Well, I guess maybe she wasn't like named Black Widow in Iron Man.

00:33:53
I don't think she's in Iron Man.

00:33:55
She absolutely is in one of the, at least one of the Ironmans.

00:33:59
I'm far too, I'm way too far back.

00:34:00
Okay, wait, let me see.

00:34:02
Wow, she's in the SpongeBob SquarePants movie and the SpongeBob SquarePants movie video game.

00:34:09
Bet you didn't know that.

00:34:11
Sure didn't.

00:34:13
wait, no, I did know that.

00:34:14
She plays the princess, right?

00:34:17
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she does.

00:34:20
Iron Man 2, 2010.

00:34:22
Okay, I was like, I know she's in one of them.

00:34:25
And I think I only saw the first and the second one, so.

00:34:30
interesting, but I don't think she, I think she was just like a character in that and not like there were hints that she was the Black Widow, but she wasn't named Black Widow in

00:34:38
that.

00:34:38
Well, the Avengers came out in 2012.

00:34:42
So.

00:34:44
People didn't see it?

00:34:45
I guess not.

00:34:48
Yeah, that.

00:34:50
Yeah, were those Disney movies at that point?

00:34:53
That's crazy to that there wasn't some sort of like contractual.

00:34:58
Hey, by the way, you're like a face of Disney now.

00:35:01
You can't be doing nude stuff.

00:35:04
I want to say that Disney acquired them as, like, the Avengers was blowing up.

00:35:10
I can't be certain on that, though.

00:35:12
Don't quote me.

00:35:13
But I'm pretty sure.

00:35:14
right.

00:35:16
I feel like it was a whole big deal where people were like, my god, now the whole MCU is part of Disney.

00:35:22
Yeah.

00:35:23
Anyways, kind of along that line, and what I thought you were gonna say for your favorite fun fact, is that while they were filming, they did a lot of work with these hidden

00:35:34
cameras, as you mentioned, and there's a scene where Scarlett Johansson's character fell down and paparazzi saw her and got a photo of it.

00:35:45
yes.

00:35:47
And it became a very viral meme.

00:35:48
You can look up literally just Scarlett Johansson falling meme and it's incredible.

00:35:55
But yeah, people thought that she had just fallen and paparazzi got a photo of it until the movie came out because there were hidden cameras.

00:36:01
So like they didn't see the film crew.

00:36:03
And I think that's really funny.

00:36:06
Yeah.

00:36:07
Wow.

00:36:08
Yeah, I was going through the memes yesterday.

00:36:11
I sent you my favorite one.

00:36:12
She's riding a dolphin.

00:36:14
Yeah, it's a good one.

00:36:17
I like the one where she's...

00:36:19
sorry.

00:36:21
I like the one where she's falling and the little girl's running away from her.

00:36:24
That one's good.

00:36:28
Yeah.

00:36:29
Yeah.

00:36:29
They just don't make memes like they used to.

00:36:33
Mm-mm.

00:36:35
This movie started a bidding war for a TV adaptation right before COVID.

00:36:41
January 2020 deadline said that Silver Reel and A24 were bidding on the rights to make a TV adaptation based on the film specifically.

00:36:51
And then in May, they reported that Silver Reel won.

00:36:57
And the CEO told Deadline that the television series will draw a lot from the novel.

00:37:03
but while still being respectful of the movie.

00:37:08
But like, where did that end?

00:37:09
Did it ever?

00:37:10
I mean, we obviously don't have it.

00:37:12
Yeah.

00:37:14
I would like to explore more about the aliens.

00:37:18
I mean, uh reach out.

00:37:21
Okay, yeah, so for real, I'll be sending you a note.

00:37:25
It is interesting to me that they can get into a bidding war to make a TV series basically from the movie but then the people who made the movie don't get the rights to it.

00:37:39
You'd think they would just already have them.

00:37:42
But I guess not.

00:37:45
I guess it's probably Grey Area because it's a book too.

00:37:48
Probably.

00:37:49
That makes sense, I guess.

00:37:51
Yeah.

00:37:53
It also the movie took 10 years to be made.

00:37:58
Which is insane and Brad Pitt was originally cast as.

00:38:04
One half of the alien couple that was in the original script.

00:38:08
Yeah, thank god we didn't get that version.

00:38:11
seriously, I don't like him.

00:38:13
Who does?

00:38:15
A lot of people, unfortunately.

00:38:18
Yeah, well, what are you gonna do?

00:38:21
Adam Pearson, he's in this movie, which I feel like he's gotten a bit more fame more recently because he was in A Different Man with Sebastian Stan last year, right?

00:38:30
2024.

00:38:31
Might've been two years ago.

00:38:34
There's no possible way for us to know.

00:38:38
Tell us in the comments.

00:38:39
Yeah, let us know in the comments.

00:38:40
I thought it was last year, but I can be right.

00:38:42
Yeah.

00:38:43
Who's to say?

00:38:44
But anyways, yeah, Jonathan Glazer didn't want to use like special effects.

00:38:47
So he contacted Changing Faces, which is a charity that supports people with facial disfigurements.

00:38:53
And that's how they found Adam Pearson.

00:38:56
And apparently Adam Pearson also got hit by a car on the way to the audition, like broke his leg.

00:39:02
So Jonathan Glazer was just like, I'll meet you in the hospital.

00:39:04
And that's where he did his audition.

00:39:06
And Glazer like hired him on the spot.

00:39:08
Amazing, I love that.

00:39:10
Yeah, me too.

00:39:12
I'm glad that he's like...

00:39:14
for his role in.

00:39:16
What was it called?

00:39:17
Was Sebastian Stan?

00:39:17
A different man.

00:39:18
And he was great in this, too.

00:39:22
Yeah.

00:39:23
And I guess he also worked with Glazer for his role to kind of like change how she picked him up.

00:39:31
Just to like kind of make it a little bit more realistic.

00:39:33
So it's good that he got some input on there too.

00:39:37
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

00:39:39
I talked briefly about the potential of Brad Pitt being in this, but there were a lot of female actresses that were also considered.

00:39:47
Eva Green, Gemma Arderton, January Jones, Abby Cornish, and Olivia Wilde.

00:39:52
Olivia Wilde, she kind of gives alien.

00:39:58
Yeah, I could see that.

00:39:59
Yeah, she's in Tron.

00:40:02
That's sort of alien.

00:40:05
Exactly.

00:40:07
Are they doing another Tron?

00:40:09
Yeah, it comes out this week if you're listening to the podcast, the day it comes out.

00:40:15
I'm okay.

00:40:16
Thanks though.

00:40:17
I loved the first one, it was so good.

00:40:20
So good.

00:40:23
I just, I can't, I can't watch a movie with Jared Leto in it.

00:40:28
He's not in the first one.

00:40:30
No, but he's in the new one, that's what saying.

00:40:32
Yeah.

00:40:33
that his mask is on a majority of the time.

00:40:36
It would work for general people who hate him, but not for me, because I'd know he was under there and I'd still hate him.

00:40:42
Yeah.

00:40:44
They also cast for the motorcyclists a championship motorcycle road racer named Jeremy McWilliams um so that somebody who knew what they were doing on a motorcycle could

00:40:58
navigate the rain and cold in Scotland.

00:41:03
Fog, yeah.

00:41:05
Kinda fun.

00:41:06
Yeah, I like that.

00:41:08
I feel like all he had to do was like...

00:41:11
ride his bike and stare, you It's not like they needed someone who like, could cry on command.

00:41:17
Yeah.

00:41:19
that is the true test of an actor.

00:41:22
Yeah, exactly.

00:41:25
Don't Google tear sticks.

00:41:29
tear sticks?

00:41:30
It's like a little, it kind of looks like a crayon, but you rub it under your eye and it makes you cry.

00:41:35
That's how they do it.

00:41:36
what's in it?

00:41:37
Onion perhaps?

00:41:39
No, I think it's mental.

00:41:43
Yeah.

00:41:44
Yeah.

00:41:46
Yeah, fun.

00:41:48
Not some people can cry on command.

00:41:50
A lot of people cannot.

00:41:52
Of course.

00:41:53
I can cry just thinking about like certain songs.

00:41:56
Certain scenes in films.

00:41:59
Certain words.

00:42:01
Yeah.

00:42:02
Anyway, any other fun facts?

00:42:04
one.

00:42:05
Okay, hit me.

00:42:07
To start off, 2023 Venice Film Festival, the event's artistic director did an interview.

00:42:15
His name's Alberto Barbera.

00:42:17
And he was talking, I think he was asked what the worst premiere he's ever seen was, and he said this movie.

00:42:23
He said it was one of the worst screenings he's ever attended.

00:42:26
Not necessarily because of the movie, he said it was the only time he's seen an audience boo of film.

00:42:32
And apparently Scarlett Johansson was almost in tears.

00:42:37
no.

00:42:38
But adds to the, it's a divisive film.

00:42:41
Not everybody loves it.

00:42:42
Some people really don't like it.

00:42:44
That's crazy.

00:42:45
That's just rude.

00:42:48
Guess her rating now?

00:42:49
m No, no one would say that.

00:42:56
I didn't hate it.

00:42:56
I wouldn't boo her.

00:42:57
I wouldn't boo anybody except I can't think of anybody I would boo.

00:43:02
went to a movie premiere once and I wanted to do and I still didn't and that movie deserved it but I didn't because I'm respectful and I'm not going to do that in front of

00:43:12
the people who are in the movie or worked on the movie.

00:43:16
Finn Wolfhard was there.

00:43:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:43:20
It's the film The Turning.

00:43:22
Very bad.

00:43:25
Yeah.

00:43:25
Maybe one day we'll do it.

00:43:26
It is a horror movie.

00:43:29
Yeah.

00:43:29
Cute.

00:43:31
Anyways, I'm just saying.

00:43:33
No, Respectful.

00:43:37
Demure.

00:43:38
Exactly.

00:43:41
at a film festival?

00:43:42
Rude.

00:43:43
I feel like film festivals though are a little bit more...

00:43:46
Like, people really vocalize whether or not they like the movie or not, you know?

00:43:51
Which I guess makes more sense, because the festivals are typically where they get picked up.

00:43:56
Yeah.

00:43:58
A24s.

00:43:58
reaction to it...

00:44:00
Yeah, age 24 was like, we don't give a fuck.

00:44:01
Yeah, fuck you guys.

00:44:04
But yeah, makes sense.

00:44:07
your reaction to it could depend on it getting wide released or straight to Netflix, you know?

00:44:13
Yeah.

00:44:15
Alright, do you have any other fun facts?

00:44:16
yeah, just one more.

00:44:18
Okay.

00:44:20
One of the locations where the film was filmed was in Glasgow.

00:44:24
They had to delay filming for a number of days because there was a real life murder.

00:44:29
So they had to shut down.

00:44:30
They ended up shutting down the street where they were filming.

00:44:32
um Police had it all sectioned off.

00:44:36
Yeah, that'll do it.

00:44:39
Life imitates art.

00:44:42
Did we rate it?

00:44:42
Okay, how scary did you think it was?

00:44:46
I give it a .5.

00:44:48
I don't particularly find this that scary.

00:44:51
Okay.

00:44:53
I don't really have an explanation for why though.

00:44:56
It just kind of, it just is.

00:44:59
What about you?

00:45:01
I gave it a one for womanhood.

00:45:03
Great, yeah.

00:45:06
How sexy did you think it was?

00:45:08
I gave it a .5.

00:45:08
Yeah, it feels wrong to give it any amount of sexy.

00:45:13
Just considering what it is.

00:45:17
It wasn't, I mean, I could see the appeal of like the black goo.

00:45:22
But like in the context in which the black goo was presented.

00:45:25
No, thanks though.

00:45:29
Yeah.

00:45:31
Do I have to ask you how fucked up it is now?

00:45:33
No, preferably you'd ask me how sexy I thought it was.

00:45:36
Got it.

00:45:37
How sexy did you think it was?

00:45:39
I forgot where we were in the process.

00:45:41
No worries.

00:45:41
No worries.

00:45:42
I also give it a .5.

00:45:45
I feel there's a lot of personality and humanity that is devoid in this, you know?

00:45:54
Which kind of takes away the sexy appeal for me.

00:45:59
When it's it's sterile.

00:46:02
This movie's sterile.

00:46:05
Yeah.

00:46:06
Thank you.

00:46:08
So now you ask me how, yeah, yeah, go ahead.

00:46:12
Great, thank you for asking organically, Katie.

00:46:16
I gave it a 1.5.

00:46:22
Thank you.

00:46:23
I gave it half a point for the womanhood of it all.

00:46:26
And then I gave it half a point for the babysitting on the beach crying.

00:46:31
yeah, that was sad.

00:46:35
Yeah.

00:46:36
What about you?

00:46:38
Yeah.

00:46:39
Yeah, I forgot about the baby though.

00:46:43
I just gave it a 1.5 for womanhood.

00:46:46
But yeah, but the baby can factor into that.

00:46:50
Yeah.

00:46:51
Also, by the way, a lot of people have criticized that scene and been like, aw, what they do to make a baby cry.

00:46:59
Babies just cry, they just do that.

00:47:02
It's fine.

00:47:03
Scarlett Johansson talked about the scene too.

00:47:05
She was like, no, the mom was standing five feet away, literally right off screen, the mom is sitting there.

00:47:09
And they were like, yeah, obviously you don't wanna see a kid crying, but it was crying for 10 seconds while they got the shot.

00:47:15
that is the point of the scene.

00:47:18
Yeah, that it should be distressing.

00:47:21
Not to like defend it though.

00:47:22
I'm not even sure if I think like babies should be allowed to be in movies, but that's a different, the whole different conversation.

00:47:28
I'm just saying you don't have to think that they like tortured the baby to get it to cry.

00:47:33
You just set a baby down and it starts crying.

00:47:34
It's fine.

00:47:35
and it's probably like cold and he's sitting on rocks and like, yeah, he's not like hurting.

00:47:42
He's just like, yeah, it's just not ideal.

00:47:46
Yeah.

00:47:47
Alright, anyways, overall, what did you think of Under the Skin?

00:47:51
I thought it was good.

00:47:52
I get it.

00:47:53
I really wished it wasn't so obvious that she wasn't human from the opening sequence.

00:48:00
I think that really like it would have been a lot more impactful had you sort of piece that together throughout the film.

00:48:07
Yeah, I gave it a three.

00:48:14
Okay.

00:48:15
Yeah, Scarlet's good.

00:48:18
She's good.

00:48:19
The premise is interesting.

00:48:22
It was lynching in sort of an accessible way.

00:48:26
Mm-hmm.

00:48:27
So yeah, I gave it a three.

00:48:29
Sure.

00:48:31
How about you?

00:48:33
very hard time rating this movie because

00:48:38
I don't find watching this movie to be fun or interesting or like a good time in any sense of the word.

00:48:47
I think the movie is kind of boring and like the very much a slog until maybe like the last like act maybe.

00:48:59
That being said, it is beautifully shot, it is beautifully acted and I love

00:49:05
reading commentary about the movie.

00:49:07
So I love the points that it makes and I love the discussions about it so much that I'm like, wait, do I love this movie?

00:49:15
Like, I'm not sure where I fall because even rewatching it, I was like, God, I really have to sit through this whole thing.

00:49:22
But I'm like, I don't know where like where that disconnect is.

00:49:26
No, I do know it's that's just like Glazer style because I kind of had the same feelings about Zone of Interest, which is another film you did.

00:49:33
where it's like, is such a brilliant take on humanity and like how people can go about their mundane lifestyle while like atrocities are happening next door.

00:49:44
That's like what the zone of interest is kind of about.

00:49:47
So I don't know if it's just like his style, but like he does it very well.

00:49:50
And I'm not, I don't know.

00:49:51
So that it's just a hard thing for me to grapple with of like personal enjoyment versus like intrigue about.

00:49:57
the concepts that he's presenting.

00:50:00
All that being said, I still give it a 3.5 because I think it deserves credit for that and the artistry behind it.

00:50:09
I just want to say it probably would be higher if I had a good time watching it, if that makes sense.

00:50:17
I totally agree with you.

00:50:18
didn't mention this, but I totally agree with you that it was a slog.

00:50:23
It's very slow.

00:50:25
And some scenes are very like when she's looking in the mirror, I get that the point is that she's like.

00:50:31
trying to like wrestle with her humanity that she doesn't have, but she's like trying to adopt sort of.

00:50:37
But that was a, it was like what a full minute of her just staring at herself.

00:50:42
Yeah, which that's what I'm saying.

00:50:44
Like talking about it afterwards is so much more interesting than watching it while it's happening.

00:50:48
Yeah, so fair.

00:50:50
Yeah.

00:50:51
I agree.

00:50:52
Yeah.

00:50:52
Yeah, I agree.

00:50:53
Yeah.

00:50:54
All right, the real question though is would you survive?

00:50:58
Yeah.

00:50:59
Of course you do.

00:51:00
Yeah, I mean, but also like we're have we dealt with this before?

00:51:04
Like the alien is the main character.

00:51:07
Yeah, it's hard to put yourself in a situation.

00:51:10
Like, are we the alien?

00:51:12
Yeah.

00:51:13
I guess.

00:51:15
then we die.

00:51:16
Well, not necessarily.

00:51:18
I'm not falling asleep outside, that's crazy.

00:51:21
You're an alien.

00:51:22
You're not like.

00:51:24
but I'm still me.

00:51:26
You don't know the comforts of home.

00:51:29
Uh, yeah I do, cause she was just on a bed.

00:51:32
I suppose.

00:51:33
alien species to figure out that a pet is more comfortable than rocks.

00:51:37
I guess.

00:51:39
You're sleeping outside?

00:51:40
Are you dying?

00:51:41
I think I'm sleeping outside.

00:51:44
Yeah, I think I die.

00:51:45
If I'm the alien, then, well.

00:51:48
I don't know, it's just so hard, I'm not an alien.

00:51:51
Yeah.

00:51:52
I don't think we've dealt with this yet.

00:51:54
I don't think so either.

00:51:55
Thalien's never been like the main character.

00:51:59
But how do you put yourself in the situation with that?

00:52:01
I mean, if we do that, then we just automatically win because she's only targeting men.

00:52:06
True.

00:52:07
I like that.

00:52:08
I like those odds.

00:52:10
Yeah, I think that's fair.

00:52:14
We both live.

00:52:15
Okay, we live.

00:52:16
I live.

00:52:17
We let our alien friend continue to love his men.

00:52:21
Tell us in the comments if you live.

00:52:24
just comment baiting every chance we get.

00:52:26
Yeah.

00:52:27
Okay, well, fun.

00:52:29
Yeah, all right.

00:52:30
Last little bit.

00:52:31
Do you want to tell me the plot of our movie next week?

00:52:36
Okay, do you know what it is?

00:52:39
It's called Devil.

00:52:41
Devil.

00:52:42
Devil.

00:52:44
What a dumb name.

00:52:45
Okay.

00:52:48
First of all...

00:52:52
Okay, yes.

00:52:52
It's giving creature feature for some reason.

00:52:56
I can't explain it, but I do believe it's a creature feature.

00:53:03
I think it's a werewolf movie.

00:53:05
Yeah.

00:53:06
I think it's a werewolf movie in which people mistake the werewolf for the devil.

00:53:13
But actually it's worse.

00:53:15
It's a werewolf.

00:53:17
then the dare...

00:53:20
and the werewolf werewolves are worse than the devil.

00:53:24
Yeah.

00:53:25
Yeah, in this universe, yeah, the werewolf is really bad.

00:53:28
my next question.

00:53:29
In this universe or do you believe that across the board?

00:53:33
I, you know what?

00:53:35
Depends on the werewolf.

00:53:37
So true.

00:53:38
The devil can't be that bad.

00:53:40
Oh, what?

00:53:41
with the werewolf?

00:53:42
I think it's like a little town, little town vibes and it's a religious town.

00:53:51
And so they don't think folklore or like, you know, they think religion and the devil is who it would be.

00:54:02
Exactly.

00:54:02
Does the town live or do they kill the werewolf?

00:54:08
no, the werewolf kills a lot of people in the town, which is why they're like, my God, it's the devil.

00:54:14
and then there's like a pivotal scene.

00:54:17
The like, what is it like the climax of the film is

00:54:26
that the werewolf gets away.

00:54:31
What?

00:54:32
you were gonna say like that the werewolf is actually the priest or something you know like like a crazy

00:54:37
Oh, that would, yep, that's what I was gonna say.

00:54:41
That's exactly what I meant.

00:54:43
that that's what you were gonna say and that's why I helped, yeah.

00:54:46
Yeah.

00:54:47
Thank you.

00:54:49
You're so welcome.

00:54:49
No, you did everything.

00:54:50
I got your, I picked up on your vibes, you know?

00:54:54
Yeah.

00:54:54
yes, yes.

00:54:55
Wow, amazing.

00:54:55
Wow, I'm so glad that I came up with that.

00:54:58
Yeah, me too.

00:55:00
Yeah, when you sell that idea and become famous, don't forget about me, okay?

00:55:05
Yep.

00:55:09
Yeah, who are you talking to?

00:55:10
oh

00:55:13
The only way I can get you to remember me is by making you record a podcast weekly.

00:55:17
Yeah.

00:55:20
at this point in our lives and careers, if it weren't for the podcast.

00:55:25
We'd never hear from each other again.

00:55:26
Alright, well no, that's a great idea and I would love to see that movie, but unfortunately that is not correct.

00:55:35
It's just supernatural.

00:55:37
That's really disappointing.

00:55:39
I had...

00:55:41
Okay.

00:55:42
Not directed, but story is by M Night Shyamalan

00:55:47
Could be good then.

00:55:49
As long as it's like pre-20, it's pre-COVID night.

00:55:54
Pre-COVID.

00:55:56
Came out in 2010, Katie.

00:55:59
You're in for the ride of your life.

00:56:01
It's gonna be peak.

00:56:02
This is gonna be a great film.

00:56:04
10 out of 10, incoming.

00:56:08
All right, cool.

00:56:10
Yeah, me too, it's been a while since I've seen it, always nice to revisit.

00:56:14
Yeah.

00:56:16
Good.

00:56:16
Thank you.

00:56:17
Yes.

00:56:19
That was under the skin.

00:56:20
I hope, you know, you thought it was fine.

00:56:23
That's fine.

00:56:25
We gotta get you a banger here soon.

00:56:28
Yeah.

00:56:28
Yeah, sorry, I'm trying.

00:56:33
I will attempt to give you a banger.

00:56:36
Thank you.

00:56:38
Thank you.

00:56:38
Thank you.

00:56:39
Sometimes it's hard to tell with you what's gonna really hit, you know?

00:56:42
Maybe devil will.

00:56:43
There's-

00:56:45
That's the hope, know, is it?

00:56:47
Just be a 10 out of 10.

00:56:49
All right, well, cool.

00:56:51
Thanks for listening.

00:56:53
Feel free to like and subscribe.

00:56:55
I wasn't thinking you, Katie, I'm thinking the audience.

00:57:00
Thank you for listening.

00:57:02
You're welcome.

00:57:10
god, alright, please feel free to like and subscribe.

00:57:13
Let us know, I don't know what all we told you to comment, but comment it.

00:57:18
And we'll see you next week for Devil.

00:57:21
See you then!

00:57:23
See you then, bye.

00:57:25
Bye.