Damien Leone’s 2016 slasher Terrifier follows Art the Clown as he captures, tortures, and kills a group of women who are out celebrating Halloween. Inspired by Leone's short film about Art, Terrifier has amassed a cult following and spawned two sequels, the newest of which releases this week.
Horror News
👉 Life of Chuck from Mike Flanagan, Stephen King lands at Neon: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/mike-flanagan-stephen-king-life-of-chuck-neon-1236013622/
👉 Horror baking competition Killer Cakes starring Maythew Lillard coming soon: https://deadline.com/2024/08/killer-cakes-gory-competition-baking-special-prime-video-matthew-lillard-danielle-harris-nikk-alcaraz-1236043889/
👉 The Hand That Rocks the Cradle is getting a remake with Micah Monroe: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/maika-monroe-hand-that-rocks-the-cradle-1236013462/
👉 Nick Frost stars in an upcoming horror comedy titled Get Away: https://www.fangoria.com/nick-frost-slasher-get-away-release-date/
Next Week
In today’s episode, kd (incorrectly) guesses the plot of the Australian mockumentary Lake Mungo: https://youtu.be/d2ISuVvP-XI?feature=shared
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Hello!
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Hello?
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Happy Tuesday.
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Happy Tuesday and welcome to Killer Cuties Podcast.
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Welcome in.
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I'm kd.
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I'm Cassidy.
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We haven't introduced ourselves in 80 episodes.
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Yeah, it's a long time.
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I guess it's about time.
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It's weird saying my name out loud.
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It was weird.
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Yeah, I kind of forgot my name for a second.
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Who am I?
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Mm
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Well anyway...
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Yeah, now that you know who we are, let's hop into some news, huh?
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Yeah, horror news and then we're going talk about Terrifier.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we are.
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Yeah, I'll go first with the news.
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I've got more Flanny news.
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We love the Flanagan.
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Mike Flanagan.
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He's teaming up with Stephen King for The Life of Chuck.
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We've known that for a while.
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It's an upcoming sci -fi horror film starring Tom Hiddleston, Mark Hamill, Karen Gillan, and Jacob Tremblay.
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The film debuted a few weeks ago at TIFF and it won the People's Choice Award.
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Hey, let's go!
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Yeah, I mean a week ago at the time of recording, but by the time you guys are hearing this, it was a couple weeks ago.
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Because of that win, NEON is trying to scoop it up.
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They're working on closing a distribution deal to acquire the film.
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And if you remember, NEON was responsible for all the viral marketing for Longlegs.
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I don't want to spoil anything.
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The movie is just sort of an anthology of Chuck's life and death.
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And there's a haunted house involved.
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So it's very Flanny coded.
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Yeah.
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And it's slated to release summer of next year.
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I do like NEON.
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They're really, you know, getting it when it comes to horror.
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Yep.
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Getting it.
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I was gonna say it, yeah.
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In not similar news at all, but we'll get to tying it in, I promise.
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Prime Video is releasing a horror baking competition called Killer Cakes.
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It premieres, yeah, it premieres on October 8th.
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Contestants will work with special effects artists to create cakes that bleed, vomit, or are just nasty, but also delicious.
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Sounds fun.
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It is gonna be co -produced by Blumhouse, so there's that.
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Yeah, but the judges for the competition show are gonna be food creator Nikk Alcaraz, Halloween actress Danielle Harris, and here's how I'm tying it in because he has a small
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part in The Life of Chuck, Matthew Lillard.
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Yep.
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Yeah, there's already like a trailer for it so you can look that up.
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We can link that if we'd like.
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Yeah, it's cute.
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Tying back into my last news, speaking of Longlegs, we're getting a remake of the 1992 thriller, The Hand That Rocks the Cradle.
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What does that have to do with Longlegs, I hear you asking.
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It was just released that Maika Monroe is gonna be the star.
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Nice.
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Nice.
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the first choice for the starring role.
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So we'll give you more news as it comes out about that one.
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A new horror comedy starring Nick Frost, who you might know from Shaun of the Dead.
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It's called Get Away and it's set to come out on December 6th, but the official trailer has dropped.
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So that's exciting.
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It's supposed to be about a family vacation to a remote getaway that takes an unexpected turn when they discover the island they're on is inhabited by a serial killer.
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It seems kind of funny.
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If you're a fan of, yeah, yeah, horror comedy.
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Yeah, if you're a fan of Nick Frost, that's coming soon.
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We'll link the trailer, obviously.
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Don't worry about it.
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Cute.
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I have one more trailer news.
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We love trailers.
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I really love this trailer.
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We finally got a full length trailer for Last of Us Part 2.
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Mmm.
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Yep.
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with a good chunk of Catherine O'Hara.
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But we still don't know who she's playing.
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We can kind of infer that she's playing Joel's therapist slash grief counselor.
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I don't know.
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We get some really harrowing shots of the infected.
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There's a scene of a very distressed Ellie.
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Joel is very sad.
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We meet Dina.
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We meet Kaitlyn Dever as Abby.
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And then separately, we got confirmation that the team behind the show is going to be targeting award season.
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So that basically guarantees a release date before May of next year.
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Nice.
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Yeah, that's exciting.
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I'm excited.
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Yeah, I loved season one.
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thought that show was great.
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I'm excited.
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of my top five favorite shows of all time.
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Easy.
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Well careful now, there's only one season.
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They could really fuck it up.
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Hahaha
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Yeah, I'm honestly
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expecting it to get fucked up.
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Well.
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We'll see.
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Last news from me.
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Ring Camera is offering one lucky winner a $100 bonus for their ghost captures from now through November 1st.
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They are only taking the first 5 submissions, so get it in now.
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But yeah, according to the official contest website, they will accept anything from supernatural sightings of floating orbs and unexplained shadows to family and friends
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wearing silly costumes.
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Funny, frightening, fashionable, all of it.
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If you find a ghost, we want to see it.
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So it seems like they're not...
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It's not like a serious ghost finding competition.
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It's more just for fun.
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But it could win you $100 .
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That's great.
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If you have a Ring camera, I say go for it.
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Do something.
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Shake your ass.
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Twerk a little bit.
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I'm sorry.
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Haha
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The judges for the contest are gonna be Stranger Things star Finn Wolfhard and paranormal investigator Katrina Weidman.
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So go for it!
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You could win!
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That's exciting!
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Yeah, that's super cute.
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Yeah, people on TikTok fake paranormal activity all the time.
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There's going to be such good entries.
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It's going to be great.
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I love it.
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And they're only taking the first 5 that doesn't even give you time to like produce anything.
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Yeah, I guess you kinda hope that...
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that doesn't fill up that fast, guess.
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Because, you know, you have to have a Ring camera.
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You gotta find out about it.
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And you gotta be interested in actually doing it.
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I don't know how many people own Ring cameras, if I'm being honest.
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I do.
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kd!
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Start faking some gorbs!
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I'll get right on that.
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Actually, I do have a really scary video of a bug.
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Great!
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Just edit it so that it has like a ghost costume over it.
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Aww.
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Well, should we talk about Terrifier?
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Yeah, let's do it.
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Okay, I'll give you a little summary.
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Okay.
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Terrifier is a 2016 independent horror movie written and directed by Damien Leone, based off his character Art the Clown, who first appeared in a short film also called Terrifier
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in 2011.
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Art is a seemingly unkillable clown who on Halloween night captures, tortures, and kills two friends who were just trying to pass time waiting for their DD.
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It stars Jenna Kanell, Samantha Scaffidi,
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Samantha Scaffidi, and David Howard Thornton as Art the Clown.
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It was produced on a $35 to $55 million budget and made $416 million at the box office, but has since garnered a significant cult following.
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Wait, it did not make $416 million.
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I was gonna say no it did not.
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It absolutely did not.
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Yep.
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I'm going to roll that back.
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It was produced on a $35 to $55 million budget and made $416 at the box office, but it has since garnered a significant cult following.
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It has a 5 .6 out of 10 on IMDb, a 57 % critics and 53 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Divisive film.
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Yeah.
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For reasons we are going to explain now.
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Some might say audiences were split in half.
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Jesus.
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Come on.
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I apologize, again.
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How long have you been waiting to use that?
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Since we started this fucking podcast?
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- No, since I put Terrifier on the calendar.
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What, two years ago?
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You've had this whole podcast planned out.
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I put it on the calendar only when we got the release date for Terrifier 3 so that's when I put it on.
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yeah, that's why we're doing this now is because Terrifier 3 comes out soon.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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I think if you're listening to this, it comes out this Friday.
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Yeah.
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I hope that all 10 people who go to see it enjoy it.
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That is a...
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gross underestimation of how many people love this film series.
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It's, yeah, it is a very large cult following.
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Yeah.
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Of the cult followings, this is probably the biggest one that we've talked about.
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Maybe, yeah.
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Let's talk about it.
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Okay.
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well, you said that he first appeared in the short, Terrifier, but that's not actually true.
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He, that's the first one that he was the star of, kind of.
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But there were actually another short and then another film that he was also a part of.
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The Ninth Circle and then All Hallows Eve.
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So All Hallows Eve was the first film that he was ever in, but he wasn't really the main part of it.
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It was kind of like a series of different stories, know, kind of anthology -ish.
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Well, All Hallows Eve has both 9th Circle and 2011 Terrifier in it.
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When did Ninth Circle come out?
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Because I thought Ninth Circle was after.
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Ninth Circle was 2008.
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And then, Terrifier was 2011.
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All Hallows Eve was 2013.
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13.
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And then, Terrifier...
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2016.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, you're correct.
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They are both in there.
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But yeah, that's like technically the first time he was shown, but it's not actually his.
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It's not the same guy.
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David Howard Thornton was only hired for this movie because Mike Giannelli, who played Art originally in the two shorts and then All Hallows Eve, or I guess in the two shorts that
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they put into All Hallows Eve.
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I don't know.
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I read one thing that he retired from acting before the movie came out, so they had to replace him.
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And then I also read that he decided not to reprise his role because he didn't like
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how long it took to apply the prosthetics in the makeup.
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Maybe both.
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Maybe that was the reason he retired.
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I don't know.
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He's only ever been in those three things as Art the Clown.
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So maybe he decided this is too much.
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I'm not doing this anymore.
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But yeah, so then they held auditions and I think David Howard Thornton was the sixth person to audition and he mimed adding salt to blood to improve the flavor.
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And that's what won him the role.
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Crazy.
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Yeah.
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Mike Giannelli just should have done CIA training.
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Torture training.
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Do you know of what I am referring to what I am referring?
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Well, Jim Carrey hated getting makeup done for the Grinch.
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So they literally put him through training to endure torture that the CIA goes through.
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So that he could get through his daily makeup, which took like eight or 12 hours.
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That feels like we're doing too much.
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You know what I mean?
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But God bless him for it.
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That's the best movie ever.
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I don't disagree, but also I just don't think that it should be legal to have someone essentially work for 12 hours.
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I know you're just sitting there, but like you have to be awake and like actively doing what they need you to do so they can apply the makeup.
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And then also then you have to go and film.
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That's that feels like it should be illegal.
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Yeah, it does.
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How did Hollywood just skip over the whole workers' rights thing?
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Still to this day.
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I don't get it.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, no, you're right.
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David Howard Thornton has mime experience.
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Mm -hmm.
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He channeled that into his evil Mr.
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Bean.
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His words.
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Yeah, I didn't get that from his performance, but I think I've also only ever seen clips of Mr.
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Bean, so who am I to say?
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Yeah, he said he was inspired by silent and physical actors.
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Charlie Chaplin, Buster Keaton, Lon Chaney, Doug Jones, and Jim Carrey.
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Speaking of...
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Speaking of the one and only...
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I love Jim Carrey.
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I love Doug Jones.
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I don't know who that is.
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Can I see you back here?
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I probably do.
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kill you.
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You do know him.
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He's...
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Basically, if you've ever watched a movie with like a tall, lanky, creepy monster in it, that's Doug Jones.
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Okay.
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Maybe not every time.
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Well, that's animated, so...
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No.
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You don't even know what he's in.
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First of all, he was in the absolute clunker Bye Bye Man.
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No, he, you, I know, right?
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No, he played the eyes guy in Pan's Labyrinth.
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He played, I think he also played the fawn guy in that too, if I'm remembering that correctly.
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He was in Mama, he's been in a ton of horror movies.
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He was in Mama, was in Bye Bye Man.
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He was in The Shape of Water.
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Never saw that.
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Is that the mermaid one?
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He's the merman in it.
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Yes.
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Is that a horror movie?
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Okay.
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Sorry.
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Yeah, okay.
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Yeah, he's been in a lot of stuff.
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a weird little dude, you're like, that's Doug Jones, man.
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Cute.
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Except for all the weird little dudes you know, I guess.
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Yeah.
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But anyways, he's great.
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He's fantastic.
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I forgot.
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I was going to kick us off.
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I was going to kick us off with a fun review I read on Rotten Tomatoes when I was doing research about the film.
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Would you like to hear it?
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tell me it now, please.
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Xavier T.
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posted a review - actually was on IMDb.
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Sorry.
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No, it was on Rotten Tomatoes.
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I'm stupid.
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He posted just last week.
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He said, this movie saved my life and my family.
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This movie is the reason I got married, had a kid, bought a house, bought a car, moved to Japan.
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This movie cured cancer.
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Five stars.
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Wow.
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I...
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I don't even know what to say to that.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna be honest, I thought it was gonna end with something like...
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snarky.
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I thought it was gonna be like, because I decided to never watch a movie again so I invested in my personal life or something.
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Nope.
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He genuinely loved it.
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I love it, okay.
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Yeah.
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Xavier.
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Let us know what this movie did for you and your family in the comments, please.
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Fun fact about where they were filming, the underground tunnels that they used for filming,
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they were part of an abandoned Seaview hospital.
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So they were the tunnels that they used to transport the dead out of sight of other patients so that they could be cremated.
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Wow.
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Yeah, very cool.
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Yeah.
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And to think they just roll patients by nowadays.
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They put like a sheet over them, right?
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Yeah, that's almost creepier.
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Like just don't.
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And nobody, they would think they're asleep.
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That's true.
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Call your local hospital today.
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And figure out, don't do that, yeah.
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do that.
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That was a joke.
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Don't do that.
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Don't overwhelm them.
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I have a fun fact.
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Great, I'd love to hear it.
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Yeah.
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Just yeah, just this one.
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Samhain is how you pronounce Samhain.
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Not Samhine.
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That's fucking crazy.
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Yeah.
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In their defense.
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No.
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What were you going to say?
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I was gonna say in their defense, I think anybody who's ever seen that word, who's maybe like American and never heard it pronounced, would say Samhine.
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Samhine.
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So I think that, I'll allow it.
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I think yeah, if you're writing a film, you should maybe do research, but also would the characters in the movie know that?
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Probably not.
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But it was a reporter on the radio.
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How many local reporters do you know that would say that, right?
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I think every late night DJ I've ever heard would probably say Samhine.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah, well.
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Disrespect.
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Yeah, I'm sorry.
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That's okay.
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But fun fact, that's how you say that word.
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Samhain.
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it was in fact said incorrectly.
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Yeah.
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It be like that.
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When I was a kid, I thought it was Samhain for sure.
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Until I heard it.
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And I was like, I was like, what are you saying?
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And I had to Google it.
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And then I was like, that's not...
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And I realized what was happening there.
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More about David Howard Thornton and his casting.
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Damien Leone said when they replaced Mike Giannelli that Mike may as well have been a guy dressed as a clown, whereas David is a clown.
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He is a walking cartoon.
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He is Roger Rabbit in real life.
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And you'd never believe that he's Art the Clown, but he knows how to flip the switch and bring it to a dark place.
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What a great compliment?
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Is it?
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I don't know, it almost feels kinda like mean to Mike, like, leave that man alone.
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He did fine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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poor Mike.
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Yeah.
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But I do think David Howard Thornton did a good job.
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Of all the acting in the movie, his was the best.
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Does that mean a lot?
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Who's to say?
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Me.
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No.
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It doesn't mean a lot.
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The acting is not very good.
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Yeah.
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You know, truthfully, not a lot about this movie is very good.
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Don't spoil your rating, kd!
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Well, it's been half an hour, so...
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Yeah, that's true.
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I really thought there was a sliver of a chance that maybe you'd just be gung -ho for Art, you know?
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Yeah, just like, man, this movie ripped.
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Let's go.
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gravitate?
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What is there to be gravitated towards?
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I think you should ask the many, many Terrifier fans.
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Great.
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don't trust a one of them.
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They have terrible opinions.
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I don't -
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down now, they're gonna come for us.
00:22:28
I hope they do.
00:22:32
He's not like, he's not funny.
00:22:35
He's not interesting.
00:22:36
He doesn't have a compelling back - He doesn't have a backstory, let alone a compelling backstory.
00:22:41
His design is pretty mediocre.
00:22:45
Like, are these people just drawn to him because he does sex crimes?
00:22:49
Like that's weird.
00:22:51
Yeah, I think there is a very specific
00:22:55
type of audience in horror who just wants blood and gore and just like craziness.
00:23:02
They don't care about plot.
00:23:03
They don't care about character development.
00:23:04
That's like, they just want to see a gory movie.
00:23:09
And I think that's fine.
00:23:11
You can watch whatever you would like.
00:23:16
It's not for me.
00:23:18
Anyways, but I do think, unfortunately, there is a very, I'm hoping, small subset of fans of this movie.
00:23:26
They kind of ruin it for everybody else because...
00:23:30
they're kind of vicious when they defend the movie.
00:23:33
I think if you love a movie and you want to defend it, that's fine.
00:23:37
Jennifer's Body has rotten reviews.
00:23:39
I'll defend that with my life.
00:23:40
I'll die on the hill that that's a good movie.
00:23:42
There's a lot of movies that have poor reviews or even movies that are just plain bad that I will die on a hill for because I love them.
00:23:51
But I'm never going to attack people who don't like them because most of the time...
00:23:55
like Batman and Robin 1997, I can understand that like it's not a great movie.
00:23:59
I just love it.
00:24:02
I understand the flaws.
00:24:04
I understand why people don't like it.
00:24:05
And I think that that's maybe important.
00:24:08
I literally kept a Reddit thread open because someone said that they felt weird after watching it.
00:24:13
It's just in like Reddit r slash horror.
00:24:15
They were just like, hey, I felt weird after watching these two movies.
00:24:18
Did anybody else feel this way?
00:24:20
And they had to edit it saying,
00:24:23
that they got four plus messages from Reddit Cares insinuating that they are mentally unwell.
00:24:29
Because fans of the movie started posting, like reporting them, basically saying that they were mentally unwell because they didn't like the film.
00:24:38
That's crazy.
00:24:40
Don't do that because someone doesn't like a movie that you like.
00:24:44
Yeah, you hear that?
00:24:44
Don't do that to me.
00:24:46
Don't report me to Reddit.
00:24:48
Hahahaha
00:24:51
No, but seriously, we're also getting hateful DMs and stuff like that.
00:24:54
That's crazy!
00:24:56
Relax.
00:24:59
The, the, I mean we talked about it being like gore porn.
00:25:07
Yeah.
00:25:08
The production quality and the talent,
00:25:12
Mm -hmm.
00:25:13
are the same caliber as you would expect in pornography, like, I don't understand it at all.
00:25:21
There are more expensive horror or porn movies.
00:25:25
This movie kind of is, yeah, like, torture porn.
00:25:30
Yeah.
00:25:31
Every...
00:25:32
It has the most extreme versions of most kinks.
00:25:39
It's like the...
00:25:41
You know what I mean?
00:25:42
Like there's like a really aggressive hair pulling scene.
00:25:45
There's choking scenes.
00:25:47
There's suffocating scenes.
00:25:49
There's cutting scenes.
00:25:51
It's like they just wrote down all the kinks they've ever heard of, took it to the absolute extreme,
00:25:59
and made a movie out of it.
00:26:01
Yeah.
00:26:03
I mean, I do think that there's cutting and choking and whatnot in other horror movies, and it doesn't come off the way that this one does.
00:26:10
Yeah.
00:26:13
And that's, yeah, I mean, there's a whole huge discussion about is this movie misogynistic or not?
00:26:20
It is, but...
00:26:22
Absolutely.
00:26:25
Yeah, I think it is.
00:26:27
And I get that people want to defend it because they like it.
00:26:34
You don't ever want something that you like to be like problematic, right?
00:26:38
But I also think it's like, I think.
00:26:43
I understand the defense of it being like, it's a horror movie.
00:26:49
People are gonna die.
00:26:49
People are gonna get, you know, tortured.
00:26:52
It's cool to see new ways of people dying in horror movies.
00:26:56
But I think the difference is, like, I'm never gonna go into a movie and be like, a woman died.
00:27:01
This movie's misogynistic.
00:27:02
That's not how horror movies work.
00:27:04
But I think where this one kind of diverts from that is that
00:27:09
the worst kills are reserved for women.
00:27:11
And there's always some sort of like sexual humiliation aspect of it.
00:27:17
And that's where it kind of draws the line.
00:27:19
Like that's the line that's drawn because that doesn't happen to the men in this.
00:27:24
The men are just wrong place, wrong time deaths.
00:27:26
Whereas he actively seeks out these women, sexually humiliates and mutilates them.
00:27:33
And even like, even this movie doesn't even have like a final girl because even she is punished, she doesn't get out okay, and then she's turned into a monster.
00:27:41
Well, I guess at the beginning, but you find out that's at the end.
00:27:43
So it's like...
00:27:45
Sorry, I think that there's enough here that people are justified in saying that it's misogynistic.
00:27:52
Yeah.
00:27:52
Absolutely.
00:27:53
And also on the note of like the final girl thing, she turns around in the wheelchair like it's some big reveal that she's the girl from the interview.
00:28:00
Like that was absolutely spoon fed to us.
00:28:04
Yeah, I thought, I think it's interesting that that's supposed to be like a twist, that the beginning of the movie is...
00:28:12
happens after everything else that we see.
00:28:15
Yeah, it just felt like a flashback.
00:28:18
I feel like I did not think...
00:28:20
My only thing was I was wondering which of the two sisters it was gonna be.
00:28:23
Not...
00:28:24
It was this before or after.
00:28:26
I knew that it was after.
00:28:28
But...
00:28:29
Yeah, I don't know.
00:28:29
That was interesting.
00:28:30
Yeah, like it tried to take itself so seriously in that.
00:28:35
Yeah.
00:28:37
And I will say there was an interview after, I think in 2023, because there were a lot of criticisms like that.
00:28:45
A lot of the criticisms of this movie was that there's no character development and that it's very misogynistic.
00:28:53
And yes.
00:28:56
There's the scene where the like chest of a woman is put on Art.
00:29:02
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:29:07
Yeah, Damien Leone responded to that.
00:29:10
He said, I get constantly accused of being misogynistic.
00:29:13
Of course, today that is inevitable.
00:29:15
What really shocked me was being called transphobic based on the scene where Art skins and wears a woman.
00:29:27
It made me laugh because it couldn't be any further away from what I am raised by all women and everything.
00:29:32
A lot of, just want to say, a of men are raised by all women and they're still misogynistic.
00:29:36
There's millions of men doing that right now.
00:29:40
Yeah, also the fact that you're being criticized and it makes you laugh as opposed to it makes you think or
00:29:47
I will say the sequel, I think he did take some of the criticism to heart.
00:29:53
Okay.
00:29:56
As to heart, it should have maybe not, but there were some notable changes in the second one that like, okay, I think he's at least learning.
00:30:04
I will give him that.
00:30:06
It's not perfect yet, but yeah.
00:30:11
But yeah, so I don't know.
00:30:14
Maybe it wasn't his intention to be misogynistic.
00:30:19
I think that again, intention doesn't really matter.
00:30:22
It kind of just was.
00:30:23
A lot of women feel that it was, and that's kind of the whole point.
00:30:27
Yeah.
00:30:28
I mean, finish the quote.
00:30:31
Yeah, to finish it off, he said, was raised by all women and everything.
00:30:35
It's so funny to me.
00:30:36
I think I'm just so comfortable tackling sexual violence because I was raised by all women that I don't think about those things when I'm doing it.
00:30:43
I don't think I'm offending.
00:30:44
I'm trying not, or I'm not trying to offend.
00:30:46
So there's nothing or really nothing I'm not afraid to show.
00:30:50
That part I kind of left out because I don't understand it at all.
00:30:53
I don't see how being raised by women makes you comfortable with sexual violence.
00:30:57
That's, I don't know.
00:30:59
That's a weird thing to say to me.
00:31:00
weird thing to say.
00:31:04
I don't know.
00:31:05
That's why I wanted you to finish it because what the fuck does that mean?
00:31:09
I don't know.
00:31:10
I don't know what he was trying to explain there.
00:31:12
I don't know the man.
00:31:14
I don't...
00:31:15
offending?
00:31:16
That's not up to you to decide.
00:31:19
Yeah.
00:31:20
Yeah.
00:31:21
Yeah, I really didn't like that whole thing just rubbed me the wrong.
00:31:24
Yeah, it's not the greatest response.
00:31:26
Yeah.
00:31:28
Also, think, did you, you didn't watch All Hallows Eve?
00:31:32
I watched the first like 30 minutes of it.
00:31:34
I watched basically Ninth Circle, yeah.
00:31:39
No, I didn't have time.
00:31:42
I think watching the terrifying short, like there's no way that that couldn't have been intentional misogyny.
00:31:49
Because, yes, like I don't, if you don't want to hear it, you can cover your ears, but I'm gonna spoil it right now.
00:31:57
It ends with him mutilating a woman, cutting off her arms and legs, and carving the words pig, slut, cunt, and bitch into her.
00:32:09
There is no reading that in any other way besides sexism.
00:32:14
That's blatant.
00:32:19
So, I don't know how you could not be meaning to...
00:32:26
Yeah, I think, yeah.
00:32:29
I do not like him.
00:32:31
I do not like green eggs and ham.
00:32:34
I do not like Damien Leone.
00:32:39
I think that's a fair takeaway if I'm being honest.
00:32:43
Yeah.
00:32:44
Yeah.
00:32:47
We can talk about some more fun facts though, I suppose.
00:32:49
Okay.
00:32:50
I did find it interesting that the ambulance that passes by Dawn while she's on her phone and listening to the radio in the car, that was unplanned.
00:33:00
It was a real ambulance that drove by.
00:33:03
Yeah, I think that's Yeah.
00:33:06
Like what great timing.
00:33:07
You're like, hell yeah.
00:33:09
Yeah.
00:33:10
Also, side note, there was a review that I saw and I apologize because I didn't write it down.
00:33:16
And you're not even gonna think this is funny, but this person was basically just ripping apart this movie because they felt it was very misogynistic.
00:33:24
Fair.
00:33:25
And one of the things they said was like, I can't even think of a woman's name, so I'll just use names that Joss Whedon likes because Tara and Dawn are both names from Buffy.
00:33:39
I think -
00:33:39
It was probably a coincidence, I do think that was very funny.
00:33:45
God.
00:33:46
The latex mold is the same one that was used for Mike Giannelli in All Hallows Eve, because they wanted to keep like the look.
00:33:54
What?
00:33:56
For the face.
00:33:59
Sorry, I should have clarified that.
00:34:00
For Art the Clown's face, they had a latex mold and they used the same one because they wanted to keep it like consistent, right?
00:34:08
Same character.
00:34:09
They just had to kind of mold it and modify it for David Howard Thornton's face.
00:34:14
Cute.
00:34:16
We love consistency.
00:34:18
They mention, there's like an advertisement over the radio for the Craven Halloween store.
00:34:27
Wes Craven.
00:34:29
Yeah, a little nod to him.
00:34:31
Like that.
00:34:32
the best part of the whole movie.
00:34:35
Thinking about other movies that aren't this one.
00:34:43
goodness.
00:34:45
Did you see the vegetarian comment?
00:34:49
About the pizza joint?
00:34:50
Yeah.
00:34:51
Yeah, the it was supposed to be a burger joint.
00:34:55
And then the two lead actresses, Jenna Kannell and Catherine Corcoran, are both vegetarian.
00:35:04
So the director said, OK, let's put it in a pizza restaurant, you know, where every vegetarian goes to eat.
00:35:11
Well, there are at least vegetarian options at a pizza place.
00:35:14
There are not vegetarian options at a burger place.
00:35:20
I thought that was considerate.
00:35:21
I thought he was overcompensating for the misogyny.
00:35:25
I think that...
00:35:30
Mm
00:35:32
I don't think that that was it, but I think he was just being thoughtful.
00:35:41
I don't think it's completely black and white.
00:35:43
We'll give him a win then, I suppose.
00:35:46
Just a little one.
00:35:47
yeah, I think he made a very misogynistic movie and he needs to unpack that.
00:35:52
And I hope he has a little bit.
00:35:55
I think he has a little bit.
00:35:56
April 2023 says otherwise, but that was not that long ago.
00:36:01
That's true.
00:36:02
I hate to shit on him, but I absolutely would if he were near me and his mouth were open.
00:36:13
Hahaha
00:36:22
Cut the tapes.
00:36:27
I gotta go.
00:36:29
Hahaha
00:36:37
Sorry.
00:36:42
I don't even know where that came from.
00:36:50
We can take that out.
00:36:51
That's the first TikTok you're posting.
00:36:57
Yep.
00:36:59
Tuesday release.
00:37:00
That's going out.
00:37:04
Fuck.
00:37:05
Oh my God, Jesus.
00:37:07
Haha Hahaha
00:37:10
I don't even know what we were talking about.
00:37:14
my God.
00:37:16
Yeah.
00:37:20
The interview, yeah.
00:37:21
I think...
00:37:23
I guess when I read that it's like...
00:37:25
I don't think I think of it as as insidious as you do.
00:37:29
I think I think of it more as someone who like genuinely didn't think they did something wrong and therefore is like a little bit confused but also like trying to explain why,
00:37:42
why he didn't do what everybody's saying he did, you know what mean?
00:37:47
But to your point, it's not...
00:37:51
It's not the best response, right?
00:37:52
I think when someone's accused of making a violently misogynistic movie, you should just be like, wow, I'm listening to everything that you're saying, I'm gonna do better, and
00:38:03
then do better, and that's all you have to do.
00:38:05
Well, no, you have to unlearn some things too, but you know what I mean?
00:38:10
Why is it so hard for people to do, like, a proper apology?
00:38:14
Very weird hearing you,
00:38:16
take this side.
00:38:19
You're so level -headed about it.
00:38:21
It's very unlike you.
00:38:25
Do you like Art the Clown?
00:38:28
No.
00:38:31
Well, I don't necessarily not like Art the Clown.
00:38:36
Like, do think making him that character was a very smart move.
00:38:40
I don't think people would be talking about this movie if it was just a guy.
00:38:45
You know what I mean?
00:38:45
I think it would have disappeared forever.
00:38:48
I think because he's such a Halloween -esque, marketable character, that's why it's kind of...
00:38:55
happened.
00:38:57
And I don't like hate the character themselves.
00:39:00
I don't like this movie.
00:39:01
I do think it's misogynistic.
00:39:03
There's not a plot.
00:39:04
Even if it wasn't misogynistic, like setting that aside, if you can, it's still not good acting.
00:39:11
It's not - there's no plot.
00:39:13
There's no character development.
00:39:14
So like, it's still not a great movie.
00:39:17
But I can appreciate like some gore.
00:39:20
I like that it's practical effects.
00:39:22
I thought that they were pretty well done, especially for the budget that they had.
00:39:27
I don't think it's an irredeemable movie.
00:39:30
I just think there are a lot of issues with it.
00:39:36
And again, I've seen the second one.
00:39:38
I do think that he's on his way to learning and doing better with some of those things again.
00:39:46
We're not there yet, but we're doing better.
00:39:51
And that's all you can ask, right?
00:39:52
Is that people learn and grow and do that.
00:39:56
So, yeah.
00:39:58
But I'll be honest, like when the second one came out and I had already seen the first one, I had no intentions of watching the second one.
00:40:04
I was like, I don't need to watch women be like sexually mutilated again.
00:40:09
That's fine.
00:40:10
I'm good.
00:40:11
And then everybody was kind of like saying...
00:40:13
that it was much better than the first one.
00:40:15
So I was like, all right.
00:40:16
I'll watch it.
00:40:17
Yeah, I mean just the one scene that people talk about.
00:40:21
Yeah.
00:40:23
Yeah, the bedroom scene is...
00:40:24
it's a lot!
00:40:27
But there is a plot.
00:40:29
There is like an actual like semi -strong female character.
00:40:34
Like, I will give it that.
00:40:38
Well, should we rate it?
00:40:41
You don't have any other fun facts?
00:40:44
No.
00:40:46
Okay.
00:40:47
Just one.
00:40:50
They had to do a full body mold for the hacking scene, you know?
00:40:56
And when it was being created, the actress who played Dawn, Catherine Corcoran, she was like trapped in it for over an hour because she...
00:41:07
I think she accidentally removed too much of the separation agent.
00:41:12
So it like was sticking to her.
00:41:14
She almost had to go to the ER because of it, but they got her out.
00:41:17
She's fine.
00:41:18
But, whew.
00:41:20
She's still to this day.
00:41:23
Catherine Corcoran is still in the mold.
00:41:27
Well, I'm glad she got out.
00:41:30
I don't.
00:41:32
I was gonna say I don't want a separate agent, separate - separation, separation agent on me.
00:41:37
I don't want that on me.
00:41:38
I don't know what that is.
00:41:39
I don't want it on me.
00:41:40
And then I don't want another thing on me also.
00:41:43
Well, you do have to have the separation agent if you want the mold to separate from you.
00:41:47
Right, so then the mold's not gonna be on me at all.
00:41:49
Great.
00:41:50
It's just not happening.
00:41:52
Okay, I'll let Damien know when you premiere in Terrifier 4.
00:41:57
You will not be having a mold.
00:42:05
Yeah, and then the last thing I wanted to say is just a really dumb thing that I always get mad about in movies, but it's so easy to fix.
00:42:10
I hate it when they show text messages between two characters and it's the only text they've ever sent to each other.
00:42:16
Oh my god, I thought the same thing!
00:42:19
They're sisters!
00:42:20
first time they ever text was, where are you?
00:42:22
I don't fucking think so, babe.
00:42:25
It's so easy to fake.
00:42:28
I hate that.
00:42:29
Thank you.
00:42:34
Yeah.
00:42:36
All right, now let's rate it.
00:42:37
Okay, alright.
00:42:39
How scary did you think it was?
00:42:43
I gave it a 1 .5, only because I do remember the first time I watched it and I like knew nothing about it.
00:42:50
He kind of creeped me out a little bit.
00:42:52
I was like, what's, what's, what's this guy gonna do, you know?
00:42:55
But then once it starts going to the over -the -top gore, then it's not scary to me anymore.
00:42:59
Yeah.
00:43:00
How old were you?
00:43:01
I'm doing the math.
00:43:02
23.
00:43:04
Okay.
00:43:06
I was pretty impressionable at 23.
00:43:08
It's just a little creepy.
00:43:11
Yeah, I'm assuming you gave it a one?
00:43:13
Mm -hmm.
00:43:17
That's fair.
00:43:17
ago, I might have thought it was a 1 .5.
00:43:21
Well, I don't know.
00:43:23
That was about the same time I watched
00:43:25
Pyramid head.
00:43:27
And that was a five out of five.
00:43:29
I've never been more scared of my life.
00:43:32
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:33
But now.
00:43:35
Please, I've seen Oddity.
00:43:39
hahahaha
00:43:43
That's true, I did make you watch that.
00:43:45
At some point we're going to talk about Oddity.
00:43:47
Yeah, we are.
00:43:48
When Oddity 2 comes out.
00:43:54
How sexy did you think it was?
00:43:57
A one.
00:43:58
I only gave it a one because it's as close as I could get to zero.
00:44:02
Yeah.
00:44:04
What did you give it?
00:44:05
A one.
00:44:06
Yeah, it's not that sexy.
00:44:08
Nope.
00:44:10
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:11
if that was the intention, but...
00:44:14
Hahaha
00:44:15
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:44:18
I gave it a 2 .5.
00:44:21
It's pretty fucked up.
00:44:24
For a lot of reasons.
00:44:27
The gore, the misogyny, all of it combined.
00:44:32
But I didn't give it any higher because I do think like some of the gore is so over the top it's like, it's a little cheesy.
00:44:38
So it's kind of teetering between like a 2 and a 2 .5.
00:44:43
What about you?
00:44:45
Yeah.
00:44:46
But sort of for different reasons.
00:44:49
I would rate it a little higher.
00:44:51
Maybe even much higher.
00:44:53
But I don't want to incentivize or reward this kind of shock horror.
00:44:59
So it gets a two.
00:45:03
Out of spite.
00:45:04
I'm gonna be honest with you, it's already been rewarded.
00:45:07
You rating it higher is not gonna do anything.
00:45:11
I'm taking a stand.
00:45:12
What can I say?
00:45:14
I have principles.
00:45:16
As someone who loves dying on hills and taking stands, I fully support you.
00:45:21
Thank you.
00:45:23
Thank you.
00:45:24
Alright, overall, what did you think of Terrifier?
00:45:29
I did not like it.
00:45:32
Not even a little bit.
00:45:34
I don't even have like energy to talk about it.
00:45:38
Another, I went through a lot of Rotten Tomatoes reviews just to try to like understand the psyche of these people that enjoy this movie.
00:45:45
And another one mentioned that all of the negative reviews just don't understand B -Film gore.
00:45:51
Mm.
00:45:53
Wrong.
00:45:54
I absolutely understand B -Film gore because I've seen the 2008 masterpiece ThanksKilling.
00:46:00
I don't need to see any more B -Film gore movies to understand that there is, in fact, a place in this world for that specific genre of movie.
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What I don't think that there is a place in this world for is gore porn, which this absolutely is.
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I didn't even know what that was until I saw this movie, and now I absolutely know what that is.
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And people on Reddit were redditing, well, a movie can be gore porn and good.
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I've fucking yet to see that.
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Because there is not a redeeming quality about this movie for me.
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Not one.
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The acting was trash.
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The production was very clearly bootstrapped.
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I didn't have to know it was a $30 budget.
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I could see that very clearly.
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Nothing redeeming about the script or the plot, lack thereof.
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There was just nothing enjoyable
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about it at all.
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I'm almost mad that you even made me watch it.
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Haha
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I'm just, it was an hour and 25 minutes of my life I will never get back.
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All that to say, I gave it a one and I would like to formally and publicly apologize to any movie before this.
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have given a one because it's not compared to this.
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I don't think you've ever given a one.
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I have.
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was the remake of
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the one movie.
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Yes.
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thought you changed, no, you gave sexy a 1 .5.
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Yep, you're right, you're right.
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So I formally apologize to the remake of Jacob's Ladder, which I would gladly watch a hundred times again before I watch this ever again.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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I really tried, I tried to watch All Hallows Eve just to see if there was something redeeming.
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Like maybe there was a reason they made a whole movie about this fucking clown.
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Nothing.
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Not an iota of reason to make a whole movie out of this guy.
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What the fuck?
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Yeah.
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I really hate it.
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I don't think you expected me to hate it as much as I do.
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I really fucking hated it.
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I expected a 1 or a 1 .5 if I'm being honest.
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No higher than a 2.
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Right, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, that's why when you said, you think I'm gonna like this movie, I said I would be very shocked if you did.
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It doesn't seem like your type of film.
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I also, I don't trust people who like this movie.
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I don't trust the people who who agreed to make this movie.
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Something's off.
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Okay.
00:48:32
Great.
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What did you think of this movie overall?
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I...
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do not hate it as much as you do.
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Yeah.
00:48:43
I...
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I don't like it.
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But I do think I find a little bit more redeeming qualities in it than you do.
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The acting is bad.
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There is no plot.
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There's no character arcs.
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There's just gore.
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And I don't mind gore.
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I do like the practical effects.
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I think Art the clown's kind of cool.
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I get it.
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I get his appeal to people, you know what I mean?
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There's, it is misogynistic.
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Somehow less than the short, which is crazy.
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I don't know, maybe they're on par, but it's too misogynistic.
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But I can appreciate gory kills, cool kills.
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Like, I'm a fucking Saw defender.
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Like, obviously, I don't mind gore and like some wild and crazy kills.
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But yeah, I don't mind that it's low budget.
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Again, I think that there's sometimes
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like a fun quality about movies that are kind of bad.
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So I think it's mainly the misogyny that brings it down for me.
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Because everything else, like, yeah, there's some really bad acting and like bad movies that I love just because they're fun.
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This one's not that fun.
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Yeah.
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But all that to say, I give it a two.
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I know.
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I gave it one point for practical effects and I want to be like - when I say I think Art the clown's cool, I don't think like his like whole misogynistic act like act is cool.
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I just think like as a character himself, as like a villain, he has potential to be cool.
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You know what I mean?
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yeah, we know nothing about him.
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Yeah, but I kind of don't mind that.
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Just like an entity who's there to fuck shit up.
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If he wasn't super sexist, I think, yeah, that's pretty cool.
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Okay.
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And to be fair, just to put it out there, I'm not a pussy anymore.
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I like horror, like gore, I like some good fun kills.
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You don't have to defend yourself for not liking this movie.
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Yeah, you're fine.
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I don't think liking or not liking this movie makes you any more or less of a horror fan at all.
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Just like any other movie.
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people are gonna like movies, people are gonna not like movies.
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I think I can like semi understand the appeal of this one.
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I can't understand the people who are giving it five stars saying it changed their life.
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That's crazy.
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But to each their own, I guess.
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Well, I watched it.
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I can say I've seen it.
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can say you've seen it.
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And then I can get on my little pedestal and tell them how much it sucks.
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But yeah, I'm glad it's over.
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It's behind us.
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We can move on.
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There won't be a movie as bad as that.
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There you go.
00:51:53
That's always the way to look at it.
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We've watched your least favorite movie.
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It's all uphill from downhill.
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I thought it was downhill, because it's easier to go downhill.
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But down sounds bad and up sounds good.
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But uphill seems like we're climbing.
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I don't know.
00:52:15
It's all good from here.
00:52:19
Yeah.
00:52:21
Nothing can be as bad as that.
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That's the TLDR.
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Yeah.
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I've seen movies worse than this.
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One day, I'll make her watch them too.
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No, I'm kidding.
00:52:35
I'm kidding.
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No, as like a stand right here, I say we never review A Serbian Film.
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No, yeah, that's a one for me.
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read the Wikipedia of Serbian Film.
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Yeah.
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That's also another disclaimer we should say.
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kd has the ability to say no to movies.
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She has.
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We have movies redlisted because they're not for us or her specifically.
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mean, to be fair, I don't know a whole lot about them.
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Serbian Film, I think, was one very early on somebody - you said or somebody said...
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Well, it was very early on because you were confused about my fucked up ratings.
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And I was like, once you see more movies, you're going to understand.
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And I was like, you were like, what's like a five for you?
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And I said, read the Wikipedia.
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And yeah.
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Nope.
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You didn't even get to the bad parts before you were like, my God.
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So yeah, I don't have any interest in ever watching that movie again.
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I don't think I gained anything out of it.
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I don't think there's any redeeming qualities about it.
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And that is a one to me.
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So I understand how you feel about watching a one.
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episode on A Serbian Film.
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It's a one.
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I don't care to review it, so.
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All right, would you survive, Terrifier?
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I don't even want to think about it.
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I mean, I'm not driving drunk.
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Great, love to hear that.
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I think I would call an Uber.
00:54:09
There was Uber in 2016.
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Actually, I think the movie was set in 2017, Halloween 2017.
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So there's Uber and I think I'm calling one.
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So I'm not sitting around waiting.
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beforehand though?
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Would he have acted faster?
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I don't think so.
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He didn't didn't get them until they came into the built like he wasn't like seeking them.
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It didn't look like it didn't feel like he was like.
00:54:42
You're right.
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He did get Dawn out of the car.
00:54:43
Mm
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Yeah, no, I think I'm eating my pizza and I'm I'm Ubering from the pizza place.
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Or even before we go get pizza, because that's when we were fighting about when are we driving?
00:54:55
Yeah.
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So I'm Fuck you, Art the clown.
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Are you living?
00:55:05
Yeah, if we're saying if we were calling an Uber, yeah, I would do the same.
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I wouldn't go get pizza to try to sober up.
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That's not how drunk driving works.
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I mean, you should eat.
00:55:13
That does help with, with your alcohol...
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absorption.
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I'm thinking of like, there's an acronym for it where it's like...
00:55:25
Blood alcohol level.
00:55:27
Yeah, I that's what it is, huh?
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Anyways, eating food does help that not go up as high and go down faster.
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However, I'm still not driving if I've been drinking that night.
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I'm a responsible adult.
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So if we're saying that calling an Uber from there saves you, which I'm not sure it would, but I say, sure, we live then.
00:55:50
Yeah.
00:55:51
Okay, good.
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Because realistically, I am with you.
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Between the two of us, we're calling an Uber.
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Okay, good.
00:56:01
Yeah.
00:56:02
We never have to see Art the clown again.
00:56:05
Great.
00:56:07
But you can if you want to go see Terrifier 3 this weekend.
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Christmas Terrifier.
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That could be redeeming.
00:56:15
I'm gonna be honest, I probably will go see it.
00:56:18
I like Christmas movies.
00:56:19
I didn't love the second one, but like I didn't hate it.
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You know?
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It was better than this one.
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Yeah.
00:56:29
What, like a 2 .5?
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3?
00:56:31
3 .5?
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4?
00:56:33
4 .5?
00:56:34
5?
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I don't know, I'd have to re -watch it before it.
00:56:37
Not a five, Jesus.
00:56:39
No higher than a three, let's be honest.
00:56:45
Yeah.
00:56:47
Alright, would you like to predict next week's movie?
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I kind of switched it up on you so you didn't have time to prepare anything.
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But, but that's that's good on the fly - quick with it, you know?
00:57:00
Alright, tell me about
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Lake Mungo.
00:57:06
Yeah, tell me about Lake Mungo.
00:57:07
Okay, so Lake Mungo is a movie about ruins.
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Okay, for everybody listening, the movie was gonna be The Ruins, so that's really funny.
00:57:23
Okay.
00:57:24
Thank you.
00:57:25
Thank you.
00:57:25
No, okay.
00:57:27
So Lake Mungo is about...
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I mean a lake called Mungo.
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Yeah, a bunch of high schoolers a group of high schoolers go to camp at the lake called Mungo Yep, and It's a swimming camp They're like working on their swimming.
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They want to be Olympians.
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So they're like real really serious about it.
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And one day when they're all out swimming, one of them gets pulled under the water by something with like flipper hands.
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But nobody notices it happening.
00:58:19
So they keep, so like they know that the kid went missing, but they don't know when he went missing.
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Like is he in the water?
00:58:27
Is he in the forest?
00:58:31
Did he go home?
00:58:32
Is he lost?
00:58:32
They don't know.
00:58:33
They're like, God, this kid, where did he go?
00:58:37
So they keep doing their swimming practices.
00:58:40
And it's...
00:58:41
not until the third time a kid goes missing that they realize, my god, something's pulling them under the water.
00:58:48
Gosh.
00:58:48
Yeah, and it's a little like lake monster.
00:58:52
But here's the kicker.
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One of the kids, the one that's like most likely to be the Olympic swimmer, he can hold his breath so long that he goes into water with a knife to go and try to kill the monster.
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And he finds all of the kids that were taken underwater alive in like an underground like little cave where
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the sea monster lives.
00:59:20
My gosh.
00:59:21
And yeah, they all live.
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And together in the little like cave thing, the underwater cave thing, they're like running out of oxygen.
00:59:29
They're like, my God, there's no more oxygen.
00:59:33
And they kill the monster and then they all make it to the top.
00:59:36
And then the movie ends with the kid that is gonna be an Olympic swimmer.
00:59:45
He got into college and he freaks out because he gets to college and he finds out the mascot is the sea monsters and he's like, -huh.
00:59:54
Dun dun dun!
00:59:57
Wow!
00:59:58
A home invasion, alright.
01:00:01
Because they go into the creature's house and they kill him.
01:00:04
Well no, the creature takes them to his house.
01:00:08
Well, they were in his, you know, his lake.
01:00:11
I guess that's true.
01:00:13
It's like when people villainize sharks.
01:00:16
You're in his house.
01:00:18
Yeah, so see?
01:00:19
Look at that.
01:00:20
We're finding out now.
01:00:21
TikTok troll about people villainizing sharks.
01:00:24
I will call you out.
01:00:25
That's like the one thing I'll call people out on.
01:00:27
I love that because I love sharks.
01:00:30
No.
01:00:30
Yeah.
01:00:34
Nothing?
01:00:37
That was a good one.
01:00:37
I put a lot of thought into that in the last hour and 10 minutes I've known about it.
01:00:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:45
Someone goes missing.
01:00:47
Okay.
01:00:48
That was pretty close.
01:00:49
I'll give you that.
01:00:53
So there's like one detail you got wrong, which is everything else besides.
01:00:59
It's not high school kids.
01:01:01
No, it is.
01:01:03
Yeah, but not like a group of them.
01:01:07
It's like a high school kid goes missing.
01:01:09
You'll find out.
01:01:12
There is...
01:01:14
You're really downplaying how much of this I got right.
01:01:17
Well, I don't think getting the fact that there's a Lake Mungo in a movie called Lake Mungo is worthy of praise if I'm being honest.
01:01:28
Anyways, you're gonna love this.
01:01:30
It's a psychological horror from Australia.
01:01:35
Oh, about kangaroos?
01:01:36
And no, no, no, but it is a pseudo documentary.
01:01:41
It combines found footage and docu -fiction.
01:01:45
Yep.
01:01:47
Found footage.
01:01:48
Found footage just for you.
01:01:52
Stop, I love Oddity.
01:01:53
I know me too.
01:01:54
That's a great movie.
01:01:56
Well good.
01:01:57
Okay, I like Australia.
01:01:58
I like the word Mungo.
01:02:06
That is the recipe for success.
01:02:13
All right, well, I guess we'll see you next week.
01:02:16
Somehow we talked for an hour and a half about...
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Terrifier.
01:02:22
After editing it'll be closer to an hour.
01:02:26
There's some things I need to cut out - no.
01:02:29
Just joking.
01:02:31
Alright, cool.
01:02:32
Well, thanks for listening.
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If you like Terrifier, tell us why in a nice way.
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Don't be fucking rude.
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Hahahahah
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And let us know if it's uphill or downhill and like and subscribe.
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Thanks.
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We'll see you next week.
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See you next Tuesday.
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Bye.
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Bye!