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Hello, and welcome to the Killer Cuties Podcast.
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We're your hosts.
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I'm Cassidy, and I've seen almost every horror movie out there.
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And I'm KD, and I've seen almost none of them.
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So join us each week as I attempt to make a horror fan out of KD.
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As a warning, we will be discussing spoilers and some uncomfortable topics that may be
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in the plots, so feel free to check out the film on doesthedogdie.com first to check for
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any triggers before listening.
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Today we're going to be talking about the movie that was described as Groundhog Day
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meets Scream, 2017's Happy Death Day.
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Let's get spooky.
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Okay, I'm going to kick us off with a summary.
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So this week we're talking about Happy Death Day.
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We start out with university student Tree.
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She wakes up hungover on her birthday in a classmate Carter's dorm room.
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She ignores a phone call from her dad, dismisses Carter, and then makes her way across campus
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to her sorority house.
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There, her sorority sister, Lori, gives her a birthday cupcake, but Tree doesn't eat
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it.
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And later she meets with her married professor, Dr. Butler, whom she's having an affair with.
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That night, as she's making her way to a party, Tree is lured into a tunnel and killed by
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a masked person.
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Tree then wakes up in Carter's bed and realizes the previous day's events are repeating themselves.
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So we got a little Groundhog Day action.
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First time she avoids the tunnel, however the masked killer just follows her and murders
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her again.
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This just kind of keeps happening.
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She decides to use the loops to try to figure out who the killer is, so she kind of goes
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through all the suspects, but dies multiple times and still doesn't really figure it out.
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And after waking up from one loop, she faints and wakes up in the campus hospital, and her
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body shows damage from her previous deaths, so she's like sustaining injuries from these
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deaths.
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She knows that it's probably not good for her health to keep going through the same
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day every day.
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She finds out that John Toomes is a serial killer, and he's being held at the hospital
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on campus.
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So concluding that he's her killer, she rushes to the hospital to warn them that he's going
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to escape.
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He breaks free anyway and kills Carter before chasing Tree to a nearby bell tower.
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She does get the upper hand, but she realizes that if she kills him and the loop ends, Carter's
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going to be dead forever.
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So she hangs herself instead to restart the day.
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The time loop does restart.
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Carter is alive, and this time Tree is able to kill Toomes.
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And she's relieved that it's over.
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She and Carter celebrate her birthday, and she eats the cupcake Lori had given her.
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She falls asleep and wakes up, and the loop is still going.
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So she finally realizes that the killer is actually Lori, and the cupcake was poisoned
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when she didn't eat it in all the other time loops.
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Lori just set out and tried to kill her anyway and sometimes even used John Toomes to do
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so.
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So Tree confronts Lori.
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A fight breaks out.
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We find out that Lori was also having an affair with the professor, and that's kind of her
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motive.
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She became really jealous of the preference that he was giving Tree.
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And at the end of the fight, she shoves the cupcake in Lori's mouth and kicks her out
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a window, and she dies.
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So Carter and Tree get together.
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He offers her his room for the night.
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She wakes up the next day, briefly thinks that the time loop is still going, but it's
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not.
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It is safely the next day, and they kiss, and la-di-da, happy ending.
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Yay.
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Yay.
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Thoughts?
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This is the perfect movie.
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It's perfect.
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The perfect movie.
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Perfect movie.
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I fucking love this movie.
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I watched it twice today.
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I paid to watch it once because the first time I watched it wasn't the best experience,
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so I rented it from Amazon just so I could watch it again perfectly.
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It's a perfect movie.
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Yay.
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I loved this movie.
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Everything about it.
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I tried to find something like...
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There was no overacting.
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It was acted perfectly.
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There was no, like...
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There was nothing that couldn't be easily explained.
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So like nothing really left me, like, wanting an explanation.
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Like I was just kind of on board with everything that happened.
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It was fucking funny.
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I laughed several times.
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The police officer getting hit by a car.
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I guffawed.
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That was the funniest fucking thing that's ever happened to me.
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Not the guffaw.
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Yeah.
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I literally like honked.
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The most unattractive noise I wish I had on camera.
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No, I fucking love this movie.
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Oh my gosh.
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Okay, I was nervous about picking a horror comedy for your birthday week.
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I finally found one that you left.
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Yes.
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Spoiler alert.
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This is the five out of five that I was looking for confidently.
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Five out of five.
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This is a five out of five.
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Wow.
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I was not.
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This is left field.
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I wasn't expecting this at all.
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Well, I literally said...
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The last time we were having the argument about horror and comedy, whatever, I was like,
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Mean Girls is a fucking funny movie.
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Make that a horror movie.
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And then you've got a horror comedy.
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This is literally Mean Girls.
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Horror movie.
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Like literally.
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Yeah, it kind of is.
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Yeah.
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I think Mean Girls is funnier, but...
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Oh yeah, a little bit.
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But like this movie just is quotable.
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Like it has the same vibe.
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I don't know.
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I was going to say, I think the part...
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Because I had forgotten it.
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It's been a while since I've seen this, and the part that I just forgot about and actually
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laughed at was the very end when they're watching the news report and the one sorority girl
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who's just kind of just a bitch the whole time is just on there talking.
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She's giving an interview about how she totally knew that Lori was a psycho the whole time.
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And she's like, she literally owned a pair of Crocs.
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It was so stupid.
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I was like, that's exactly what someone like that would say.
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Yep.
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And honestly, if you own a pair of Crocs, you're probably a serial killer too.
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She wasn't wrong.
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That's not fair.
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They're a very comfortable gardening shoe.
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Gardening shoe?
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Isn't that like why they were created?
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Is it?
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I'm almost positive.
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Or I just made it up.
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Who's to say it?
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Yeah, you probably made that up.
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To be fair, like nurses wear them.
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Yeah, they're comfortable.
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Lori's like sort of a nurse.
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I don't know why I'm defending them.
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I've never owned a pair of Crocs, but I get it.
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You make fun of my husband for wearing them.
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Did I ever make fun of him for wearing Crocs?
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It sounds like me, but like.
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Pretty sure.
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I do too.
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I don't know.
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I used to like make fun of people for wearing like Birkenstocks with sandals too when I
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was younger, but now you better fucking believe that's how I walked to the grocery store every
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goddamn time I go.
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So I was going to say.
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That's what I wear in airports when I'm going on my beach vacations.
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My feet get cold on the planes.
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Put my socks on and then my sandals.
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Yeah, yeah, I wear our socks and slides to the airport nowadays.
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Easy to get through security or toses don't get cold.
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Also I did lie.
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They made it for boating.
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Boating?
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Yeah, it's not the same as gardening at all.
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I don't know where I got that.
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But yeah, they apparently they wanted a design that was comfortable, slip resistant and that
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could float.
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Crocs.
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Okay, I know many, many boaters.
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None of them wear Crocs.
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If you had time working on boats, not a single fucking one of them would be caught dead in
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a pair of Crocs.
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Maybe they would have tried it, you know.
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No way.
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They got sport mode now.
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True, maybe.
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You never know, I guess.
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Honestly, I would probably wear Crocs.
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They look comfortable.
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Like, there has to be a reason why they wear them.
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The only time I've ever even considered, we're on a tangent.
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We are.
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This is a Crocs podcast now.
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Yes, not sponsored.
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But the only time I've ever considered wearing Crocs is when Post Malone dropped his Crocs
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collab because he talks about thousand dollar Crocs in a song.
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Okay.
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I almost bought those.
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Well, there you go.
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But I didn't because I'm not a sociopath.
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Like Lori.
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Justice for Crocs.
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But my other favorite line from this movie is, who takes their first date to Subway?
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It's not like you have a foot law.
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That was apparently improvised by Jessica Roth, who plays Tre.
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Love that.
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It was good.
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It was good.
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You actually just remind me of the one thing I don't like about this movie.
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Whose fucking name is Tre?
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I mean, it's Teresa.
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They call her.
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Nobody named Teresa goes by Tre.
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They probably do now.
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That's true.
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Honestly.
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Yeah, that was a little bit weird for me as well.
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Along with the first time I watched this movie, I was like, why the fuck would a school's
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mascot be a baby?
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Like what is that?
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And then I looked it up and they got sued because the mask is like very similar to something
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called King Cake Baby, which is the official mascot of the New Orleans Pelican basketball
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team.
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Why wouldn't their mascot be a Pelican?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Wait, but they are in Louisiana.
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Yeah.
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That's what I can see.
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That lawsuit has some me to it.
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The last update I could find on it was in 2009 19 and it still hadn't been settled.
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So that's a long ass fucking loss.
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Wow.
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So who knows?
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I mean, there's some spiteful Pelicans with a baby mascot.
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King Cake Baby is pissed.
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Wild.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, sometimes you got to.
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I think they made it a baby because the director's wife was like, right, like they were expecting
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a child.
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And so he just had babies on the brain and he's like, what's funny?
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But also could be kind of creepy.
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They're like, oh, baby face, obviously.
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That sounds like something you put in a lawsuit to save yourself from being sued.
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I think you could probably tell if his wife was actually going to have a child around
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that time.
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Well, yeah, but like something they could prove to be like, yeah, I actually was like
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thinking about a child.
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But it's it's a stretch.
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It's you know, who's to say?
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Not me.
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I wasn't there.
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I'd never heard of King Cake Baby.
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Sure, not a lot of people have.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So that's another reason why it's like, you know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, that was I don't even think that I think the original script was probably wearing
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a mask, but like not like super clear on like what it was going to look like.
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But they actually Scott Lowe, Dole, Lowe Dell.
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I'm sorry, I didn't look up how to pronounce that.
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But he was the writer and he was like every slasher film opens up with a mean girl getting
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killed and a good girl living till the end.
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He was like.
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What if I just make the mean girl and the good girl the same person?
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And then this film was born.
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Well, and then he also made the good girl the mean girl.
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Lori.
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Yeah, true.
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But the one that you're kind of like, oh, sweet roommate.
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So thoughtful.
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I feel like there's kind of a lot of clues.
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Did you see it coming or were you surprised?
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No, I was I was surprised.
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See, I felt like there were like a few things that made me like kind of think it was Lori.
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Why?
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Because she knows about the affair.
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OK.
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Like when she goes to the hospital early on and she's like.
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There could be really bad consequences for this.
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And then they're all like, oh, like it has to be someone who knows it's your birthday.
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And she's like, well, the whole school knows it's your birthday.
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But like this random serial killer wouldn't know that.
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True.
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So like that was sussy.
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Also like he's escaping the hospital.
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Lori works at the hospital.
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Like I don't know.
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There were just like a few little things that I was kind of like.
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Maybe.
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Maybe in a whodunit.
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I'm like, everyone's a suspect, so I'm never fucking surprised.
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Yeah, I think for the like I was trying to figure out who it was for the longest time,
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I thought it was going to be the professor's wife.
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So the original ending.
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Well, the film ending in the script ending, I think it was always going to be just Lori.
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But in the film ending, they were going to have this whole showdown with Tree and Lori.
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And then she kills Lori.
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She's taken to the hospital.
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She's like suffering injuries.
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And then at the hospital, the professor's wife comes in and kills her again, basically
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like restarting a whole loop.
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Test audiences were like, that's fucking terrible.
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Don't do that.
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She did all this.
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She grew as a person.
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Like let her have her happy ending.
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So they nixed that and went with the ending that we have now.
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Sorry.
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I just like threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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Cute.
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So sorry.
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Well, anyway, you know, I loved the way it ended.
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It was like the right amount of cute.
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I really wanted it to end like I was ready for it to end when she ate the cupcake.
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Like that would have been so cute.
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Like that the ending like, oh, yeah, I just I just wish for tomorrow is good enough for
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me.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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But boy, was I glad it also didn't end then.
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Like I I shit you not.
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I was like.
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Because I watched it on this screen.
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I was like the whole time.
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The whole movie.
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And then every once in a while, I just like.
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I had a genuinely fun time watching it.
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I'm glad this movie is super fun to watch.
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It is.
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It's a romp.
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Definition of a romp.
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The rompiest of all the romps we've had so far.
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So rompy.
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Five out of five.
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Yeah.
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I'm trying to think of one that's more of a romp and.
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And other people like it, too.
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I'm not wrong.
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No, like.
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And no, just to just to clarify, like, I'm not crazy.
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People like this booby.
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It's like a 74 percent on Rotten Tomatoes or some shit like it's good.
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No one's arguing that it's a it's a it's a five.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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What else?
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Shit.
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It was supposed to be made 10 years earlier.
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Oh, I'm glad it wasn't.
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Me too, because it was supposed to be produced by Michael Bay.
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What the fuck do you like Transformers?
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Like explosions, millions of dollars in pyrotechnics.
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The one and only Michael Bay.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, he produced A Quiet Place, too.
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So he's done horror.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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I did like A Quiet Place a lot.
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But I just fucking hate Michael Bay.
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So I'm glad that didn't happen.
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I'm glad it didn't happen because I wouldn't want it to be anything more than it is now.
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You know.
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Yeah.
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Well, you said it's your perfect film.
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So yeah.
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If it was any more, it would have been cheesy.
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Yeah.
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It was.
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I think that they did a R rating, too.
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I couldn't imagine it being R rated R rated movie.
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Yeah.
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Well, apparently, like just because they were just going to do like more grisly death scenes.
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That was the only like real thing.
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But they just cut them out so that they could get a PG 13.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it I can see a bunch of teenagers going to the theater to watch this movie.
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Oh, yeah.
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I mean, I think it's well commercially.
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It has a sequel.
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Did you watch that?
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I didn't.
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I know it's called To You, though.
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Well, happy death day to you.
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Well, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like to you.
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Yeah.
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That's fine.
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It's fun.
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They talk more about like why she was stuck in the time loop in the second one.
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Oh, that's interesting.
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Yeah.
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I'll watch it tonight.
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Go to bed.
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Oh, OK.
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Happy death day.
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Number one fan.
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Honestly, I love this.
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I mean, I'm glad I feel like I did something right.
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Like, yeah.
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I picked the right movie for your birthday.
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This is exciting.
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Yeah.
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It's birthday present to me and it worked.
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Yeah.
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Was there anything?
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Well, you said what was the thing you said you didn't like about it?
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You said something.
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Name's fucking tree.
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Tree.
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You said, yeah, the tree.
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Unbelievable.
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Oh, my God, the scene where she just lays it all out.
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She's just naked.
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They film that on that.
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No.
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OK, good.
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It's really loud.
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They filmed that on an open set?
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No, on an actual campus.
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And then, yeah, they had to like lock shit down because they only had a couple hours
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and they were really scared.
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Like, people would just come up and start taking pictures or something like that.
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And it only shows her from the back.
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But she was just like, no, I'm going to do it fully nude.
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So she was just baring it all.
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I think they got it in like two or three takes, but she was like, this will be fun.
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Let's do it.
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And she said she doesn't regret it, that it was really liberating and a fun experience.
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Oh, yeah, I would do that, too.
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Someone's paying me to be naked?
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Walk across the school?
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I'll do it.
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I like it.
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Fun.
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I did think it was interesting, though, in the loop right before the final one, like
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the one where she thinks it's all over.
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They eat the cupcake?
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Yes.
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The first time they eat the cupcake.
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OK, yeah.
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So she's going through, she's like, I'm going to kill this guy.
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He's the killer, right?
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She's making everything right.
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She goes to see her dad.
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She's messing with all the people on campus because she knows it's going to happen.
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Yeah.
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In that one, she apologizes to Lori and tells her she's been such a good friend and that
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she's going to break up with the professor.
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And Lori doesn't give her the cupcake.
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They hug and then she goes to do her thing.
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But then I find it interesting that her motives kind of dot at that point, right?
00:21:57
She's dumping the professor.
00:21:58
He's all yours.
00:21:59
I mean, I guess there's still some sort of jealousy and she just doesn't like her and
00:22:02
she's not good up here.
00:22:08
But then, yeah, I'm like, so she obviously still went to the hospital, released tunes
00:22:12
so that he could try to kill her.
00:22:14
That didn't work.
00:22:16
So what?
00:22:17
She just showed up at the hospital and gave her the cupcake anyway?
00:22:19
How'd she get the cupcake?
00:22:20
That's what I want to know.
00:22:23
True.
00:22:24
I mean, it was probably just sitting in their room, right?
00:22:27
Yeah, that's true.
00:22:28
Yeah.
00:22:29
She might have just had it on the counter or something.
00:22:32
Yeah, I don't know.
00:22:35
Good point, though.
00:22:36
Yeah, wouldn't she didn't get it?
00:22:38
No, because she that was the first.
00:22:40
That was the first thing she said was that she apologized.
00:22:43
Yeah, she walked in and immediately apologized.
00:22:46
Well, but I think that was another like kind of hint for me was like how often they showed
00:22:55
the cupcake throughout where I was like, this has to be significant in some way because
00:23:01
there were several iterations where they show her about to eat it, but then putting it down
00:23:06
or stuff like that where I was like, yeah, what's up with this fucking cupcake?
00:23:11
I guess I like.
00:23:14
So the first the first iteration of the day, like I didn't like nothing.
00:23:19
I didn't pick up on anything.
00:23:22
The second iteration of the day when she walks by the guy in the trench coat and the sunglasses,
00:23:28
I'm like, oh, this is part of like this is like he's recognizable because of the time
00:23:33
loop.
00:23:34
We need to realize it's a time loop.
00:23:35
And then the girl with the with like the Greenpeace girl, like, OK, she's recognizable because
00:23:39
it's a time loop.
00:23:43
The cupcake was another one where I'm like, OK, she's giving her a cupcake because it's
00:23:46
a time loop.
00:23:47
I never thought that it was like specific to the plot.
00:23:50
Yeah, I was just kind of like solidifying the time loop thing.
00:23:55
Have you seen Groundhog Day?
00:23:57
No.
00:23:58
OK, good.
00:23:59
OK, good.
00:24:00
We're OK.
00:24:01
We're on the same page.
00:24:02
I never see it.
00:24:03
I've seen other time films, but I've not seen Groundhog Day.
00:24:07
I don't even think I've seen another time loop film.
00:24:10
This is your first time loop film?
00:24:13
I think so.
00:24:14
I mean, name another one.
00:24:15
Um, I've never seen it.
00:24:16
I've never seen it.
00:24:17
I've seen mainly horror ones.
00:24:18
You probably haven't seen it.
00:24:23
OK, yeah, no.
00:24:26
What are some like good ones?
00:24:28
Palm Springs?
00:24:29
You didn't see Palm Springs?
00:24:30
No.
00:24:31
Is that the Amazon one or Hulu?
00:24:34
No.
00:24:35
Yeah, it's Hulu, but you should absolutely go watch it.
00:24:38
Yeah, it's a fantastic film.
00:24:41
Yeah, people raved about it.
00:24:42
It's so good.
00:24:43
Can we just change our podcast to that time loop films?
00:24:47
Just kidding.
00:24:50
There are more on our list.
00:24:52
OK.
00:24:53
We have.
00:24:57
Don't tell me.
00:24:58
No, I won't tell you which ones.
00:24:59
I'm just trying to think of like how many we have.
00:25:06
I can like think of like three.
00:25:09
God.
00:25:10
I like a nice time loop.
00:25:13
This is the best one.
00:25:18
OK.
00:25:20
You haven't seen the other ones.
00:25:28
This it can't be better.
00:25:30
I reserved my five for the perfect movie.
00:25:33
All right.
00:25:34
And yeah.
00:25:35
Except I didn't reserve my five.
00:25:37
I gave it to like two other movies.
00:25:40
Inappropriately.
00:25:41
But how many times are you going to like later on be like, well, actually, this is the five.
00:25:48
Never.
00:25:49
No way.
00:25:50
This is it.
00:25:51
Huh?
00:25:52
Penultimate.
00:25:53
All right.
00:25:54
I feel a little guilty, though, because it's like barely a horror movie.
00:26:00
Yeah, it's not.
00:26:01
It's honestly more of a rom-com.
00:26:03
It's a thriller.
00:26:04
Yeah, it's a thriller at best.
00:26:09
Not a lot of I mean, it's like got horror elements, so I count it.
00:26:14
It's Mean Girls with Horror Elements.
00:26:17
Yeah.
00:26:19
See, I kind of well, I mean, this is on brand for me, but I kind of wish they had done the
00:26:24
art rate.
00:26:25
It would have been more horror if they had done some like insane kills.
00:26:32
Yeah, I know.
00:26:34
I don't disagree.
00:26:35
I still would have loved it.
00:26:37
Yeah.
00:26:38
I think the only thing that would have changed is maybe my fucked up score would have gone
00:26:41
up.
00:26:42
That's fair.
00:26:43
Should we get into scores?
00:26:44
Sure.
00:26:45
All right.
00:26:46
How scary did you think it was?
00:26:48
Maybe four.
00:26:49
I'm just kidding.
00:26:50
I gave it a one.
00:26:51
It's not scary at all.
00:26:52
I was about to be like, what the fuck?
00:26:57
No, a one.
00:26:59
Not scary at all.
00:27:01
I was too busy laughing.
00:27:02
Yeah, no, it's not.
00:27:05
It's a one from me as well.
00:27:08
It's another like tone thing.
00:27:11
And also this movie is just not really like we kind of just said.
00:27:15
Not a ton of horror elements.
00:27:18
I mean, it's literally about someone getting murdered every day.
00:27:20
So I guess it is.
00:27:22
But it's also like a silly, goofy time.
00:27:24
So yeah.
00:27:25
What are you going to do?
00:27:29
Is she really murdered if she wakes up from it?
00:27:32
Sorry, you're yond.
00:27:34
No.
00:27:35
Right.
00:27:36
Because I'm like officially.
00:27:39
I think the death count is one.
00:27:42
Unofficially it's like 30.
00:27:45
Yeah.
00:27:46
I mean, yeah, there's like, well, and there's even like consequences of the death.
00:27:52
Like she gets the injuries, right?
00:27:55
Yeah.
00:27:56
So like.
00:27:57
He doesn't really die.
00:28:00
Doesn't feel like murder to me.
00:28:02
Feels like attempted murder.
00:28:07
Which is fine.
00:28:10
I mean, significantly less fucked up and certainly not as scary.
00:28:16
OK.
00:28:19
I don't know.
00:28:20
Sometimes I hear an attempted murder story and I'm like.
00:28:24
The close one.
00:28:25
Personally, I think I'd rather just die.
00:28:29
I guess that sounds awful to live through.
00:28:32
I guess that's true.
00:28:36
If you had if you had like the perfect day, mine being today when I watched this movie
00:28:41
for the first time, if you had a.
00:28:47
But you knew you're going to be murdered, but you could relive that that day every day.
00:28:51
Would you do it?
00:28:52
No.
00:28:53
Knowing you were going to be murdered at the end of the day.
00:28:54
Oh, no, I wouldn't want to relive the same day period.
00:28:59
That sounds terrible.
00:29:01
A perfect day.
00:29:04
Is it really the perfect day, though, if you have to do it over and over and over and over
00:29:07
again?
00:29:08
Would you kind of just get bored of it and then it would turn into not the perfect day
00:29:12
because you're sick of it?
00:29:14
I guess.
00:29:16
Yeah.
00:29:17
Exactly.
00:29:18
They would turn into like a fun little game at the end.
00:29:22
How's it going to murder me this time?
00:29:25
It's just like there'd be no like.
00:29:28
It wouldn't matter.
00:29:29
None of it would matter.
00:29:32
You're a you're a variety is the spice of life kind of.
00:29:35
No, I'm just like, I.
00:29:40
I feel like it would become very meaningless when nothing matters.
00:29:45
But it's.
00:29:50
It's the best day.
00:29:51
But it doesn't matter because it's meaningless.
00:29:54
I'm going to get to live it tomorrow.
00:29:58
So doesn't that take the joy out of it?
00:30:00
No.
00:30:03
OK, I'm I don't mean like, oh, you went to the grocery store and you found the perfect
00:30:10
apple that would cut perfectly in half.
00:30:12
No, I know what you're saying.
00:30:14
I'm like, but I'm still like, OK, if every day like I did went swimming with sharks,
00:30:18
which is like off my bucket list, like after a while, I'd be like, yeah.
00:30:25
You wouldn't want to swim with sharks every single day.
00:30:27
Not if it's the same sharks and the same thing and I'm with the same people like what?
00:30:32
I just never get to talk to my other friends.
00:30:35
Who am I with?
00:30:36
If it's a perfect day, that can be everyone I know.
00:30:41
Yeah, it is.
00:30:42
If that's your perfect day, my perfect day would not include.
00:30:45
Oh, well, I mean, everybody that you like.
00:30:48
Yeah, but I everybody that you want to be there.
00:30:50
Never want to be with all my friends in one place.
00:30:53
Isn't that is that weird?
00:30:55
No.
00:30:56
You see your your brunch friends for brunch.
00:30:59
You see your shark diving friends for shark diving.
00:31:02
And then you get murdered.
00:31:03
Yeah, but then none of it matters.
00:31:04
I just have to have the same conversations with people every single day because they
00:31:07
don't know that we had it already.
00:31:09
No, you can lead the conversations.
00:31:12
What do I have to talk about?
00:31:16
I've been living the same day every day.
00:31:19
Nothing new going on.
00:31:21
I don't know.
00:31:22
There's only so many questions you can ask.
00:31:24
OK, so anyway, the no is your answer.
00:31:28
You could have just left it at that.
00:31:29
Thank you.
00:31:30
I did say that.
00:31:31
And then you kept pushing that it's your perfect day.
00:31:34
You're right.
00:31:35
It's OK.
00:31:36
That's fair.
00:31:38
I'm just saying I would eat fucking prime rib every day, every day.
00:31:44
OK, and that's all it would take.
00:31:47
If I.
00:31:49
Yeah.
00:31:52
I get murdered right now.
00:31:54
So tomorrow you have your perfect day.
00:31:57
Prime rib.
00:31:58
That's it.
00:31:59
You watch this movie for the first time again.
00:32:03
Perfect day.
00:32:04
Kill me.
00:32:05
You're fine with living that day over and over and over.
00:32:07
You'd never you'd be fine never seeing your child grow up, graduate.
00:32:12
Yeah, she's fun now.
00:32:15
All right.
00:32:17
There you go.
00:32:21
Cool.
00:32:24
I don't know, you know, to each their own.
00:32:33
Indeed I mean, I'd probably want to add a few other things than just prime rib in a
00:32:38
movie, but.
00:32:39
Well, now you're getting greedy.
00:32:42
It's a perfect day.
00:32:44
I'm allowed to be greedy.
00:32:45
I'm going to get murdered.
00:32:48
Thank you.
00:32:51
OK, well.
00:32:54
It wasn't scary.
00:32:57
No, it wasn't.
00:33:00
That's the key is I just wasn't scared.
00:33:03
That's what we've learned.
00:33:04
It's not scary.
00:33:05
Sexy.
00:33:06
I gave it a one point five.
00:33:14
Oh God.
00:33:15
I don't know.
00:33:19
It was like a little sexy.
00:33:23
I don't know.
00:33:25
I'm a big masked killer fan, but when the face is a baby, it just kind of ruins it for
00:33:30
me.
00:33:31
So.
00:33:32
Yeah.
00:33:33
There's so many hot masked killers.
00:33:37
This is not one of them.
00:33:41
That's fair.
00:33:42
I guess I wasn't really giving my rating based on the killer.
00:33:48
Oh, interesting.
00:33:51
Is that?
00:33:53
Yeah, no, I've never ranked a movie on hotness based on the killer ever.
00:34:00
I mean, I have done that, but this is not the movie to do that.
00:34:05
So what did you rank it?
00:34:08
Three and a half.
00:34:09
Oh my God.
00:34:10
What was so sexy about it?
00:34:12
You just like a comedy, right?
00:34:13
You just like a rom com.
00:34:16
Yeah, that's it.
00:34:18
We're doing the wrong genre.
00:34:21
I mean, I didn't like this movie because it was a horror movie.
00:34:29
Let's be frank.
00:34:30
But no, I mean, there's nudity.
00:34:35
There's don't even see anything.
00:34:37
You see your back and clavicles.
00:34:42
I'm into it.
00:34:43
All right.
00:34:44
But I mean, it's just like.
00:34:50
There's like sorority stuff going on.
00:34:52
It's just like the tone is is sexual.
00:34:56
You find sororities.
00:34:58
I didn't say that.
00:34:59
I said the tone is.
00:35:01
You're talking about how sexy the movie is and you say there's a sorority in it.
00:35:08
Yeah, that that makes the tone that significantly makes it less.
00:35:14
No, no.
00:35:19
And there's there's like the love interest thing happening.
00:35:22
Yeah, that was the girl fight.
00:35:28
I'm just more of a women supporting women.
00:35:32
OK, not a lot of that going on when she was kicking the shit out of the guy that she thought
00:35:38
was the Syria kid.
00:35:39
Like, yeah, that was that was that was the point five.
00:35:42
That was that was my.
00:35:46
Well.
00:35:47
With.
00:35:48
I can't justify it then, I guess, but I mean, it's a three and a half.
00:35:57
We can disagree.
00:36:00
OK, we do.
00:36:11
It wasn't fucked up.
00:36:13
You're telling me or are you asking me?
00:36:16
No, it was a question.
00:36:19
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:36:21
Oh, what?
00:36:22
Yeah, OK, same.
00:36:23
In the grand scheme of horror movies, this was nothing crazy.
00:36:30
This is pretty typical.
00:36:33
Slash it's not even really a slasher, because it's just killing the one person pretty much
00:36:37
every time.
00:36:38
There's slashing happening.
00:36:40
Well, yeah, I think of slasher is more of like.
00:36:45
Picking off people one by one, you know, whereas not mainly not slashing.
00:36:50
Well, no, yeah.
00:36:53
She doesn't get slashed every time she dies.
00:36:56
I don't consider one person dying over and over and over again, a slasher.
00:37:00
You know what I mean?
00:37:03
It's time that she is slashed, though.
00:37:06
OK, yes, but not every time a person slashes in a slasher.
00:37:11
I mean.
00:37:14
Kinda.
00:37:17
That's literally what the word means.
00:37:19
Yeah, but that's not what like the genre is.
00:37:24
The genre is like a killer stalking and killing a group of people.
00:37:30
It has to be a group.
00:37:31
It can't just be one person.
00:37:33
What about what about Halloween?
00:37:36
Halloween is about one guy trying to kill one person and he kills multiple people throughout
00:37:41
the movie.
00:37:42
Yeah, but the goal is one person.
00:37:46
Two people.
00:37:51
The goal is is Laurie.
00:37:53
It doesn't matter, but he does it.
00:37:54
He doesn't care.
00:37:55
He kills everybody.
00:37:58
OK.
00:38:03
Slashers are usually high body counts.
00:38:04
That's what I'm saying.
00:38:05
It's usually a group.
00:38:08
Always a group.
00:38:09
OK, it's not just someone getting slashed.
00:38:16
But you agree she was slashed.
00:38:17
She was slashed at one point.
00:38:21
I'm just saying if you're slashed odds are pretty good.
00:38:28
It's.
00:38:29
By a slasher.
00:38:30
Jesus, this camp all over again.
00:38:53
Great how overall you kind of already said what your railing is.
00:38:59
Well, we can we can do how funny it is.
00:39:02
It is a horror comedy.
00:39:04
OK.
00:39:05
I didn't write anything down.
00:39:09
Like a heart.
00:39:14
Like a.
00:39:17
Three.
00:39:18
OK, I was going to say three and a half.
00:39:25
OK, yeah, it's pretty funny.
00:39:27
It had moments where I was like, that's funny.
00:39:29
It also had some moments where I was like, yeah, there are some.
00:39:37
Controversial.
00:39:38
Non PC.
00:39:39
Jokes.
00:39:40
Yes, 100%.
00:39:41
I guess I forgot about those.
00:39:42
I forget.
00:39:43
I think there's two like really glaring ones.
00:39:44
Now I think back on it.
00:39:45
Those are not a perfect movie to me.
00:39:46
So what's your overall rating?
00:39:47
It's still a five.
00:39:48
OK.
00:39:49
I feel badly about it, but.
00:40:00
You know what, though?
00:40:02
Like, that's fair, because I know that there's sound issues with 28 Days Later, but it's
00:40:07
still a five.
00:40:08
Your five can still have issues.
00:40:09
Nothing ethical about ethically wrong with having reason to be five.
00:40:14
As much as I'm saying, like your five can still have flaws.
00:40:20
Yes.
00:40:21
Yeah.
00:40:22
OK.
00:40:23
And those are as far as tree tree and the few not great jokes.
00:40:29
Yeah.
00:40:30
Yeah.
00:40:31
Yeah.
00:40:32
OK.
00:40:33
What did you give it overall?
00:40:36
I think it was a five.
00:40:41
I'm sorry.
00:40:46
That's OK.
00:40:50
I gave it a three out of five.
00:40:53
OK.
00:40:54
Well, that's good.
00:40:55
Right.
00:40:56
It's a 60 percent.
00:40:57
That's a romp.
00:40:58
I think it's a fun movie.
00:40:59
It's not the best movie I've seen.
00:41:00
It's honestly not the best time loop movie I've seen, but it's also not the worst.
00:41:01
It's just like it's fun.
00:41:12
It's entertaining.
00:41:13
There's nothing wrong with it.
00:41:14
It's just that.
00:41:15
I feel like it didn't really do anything super special that I haven't seen before.
00:41:22
You know what I mean?
00:41:23
OK.
00:41:24
You've never seen the time loop movie, so you haven't seen anything like this before.
00:41:29
I mean, I had to have seen a time loop something.
00:41:36
I knew what the concept was, obviously.
00:41:39
Yeah.
00:41:40
Well, I don't think there's a lot of people that you could say like time loop and they
00:41:43
wouldn't be like, what is that?
00:41:48
Yeah.
00:41:50
I'm trying to think of other ones.
00:41:51
I think like Palm Springs is like the most like.
00:41:54
The most watched for sure.
00:41:57
Yeah.
00:41:58
I loved that shit.
00:42:00
There's several Christmas.
00:42:03
Time loops.
00:42:04
Christmas time loops.
00:42:07
Interesting.
00:42:09
Yeah, I'm trying to think of like that's not like a huge genre.
00:42:19
Terminator.
00:42:21
Really good one.
00:42:25
Terminator is not a time loop.
00:42:28
I've never seen any time.
00:42:29
Donnie Darko is not a Donnie Darko is not a time loop.
00:42:32
Yes, it is.
00:42:33
Never seen Donnie Darko.
00:42:35
Oh, that's kind of a spoiler.
00:42:39
Sorry.
00:42:40
Oh, you said it so confidently.
00:42:42
I thought you knew.
00:42:44
No, you said it like, no, it's not.
00:42:46
And I was like, OK, well, she's seen it clearly.
00:42:52
It's not.
00:42:53
It's just like.
00:42:54
I'm going to stop talking in case you ever see it.
00:42:57
I've seen Looper.
00:42:58
I know.
00:42:59
I probably won't.
00:43:00
Looper.
00:43:01
I almost wouldn't even consider a time loop.
00:43:04
It's more like a time travel.
00:43:06
Isn't that the one with the bike?
00:43:10
I have no idea what you're talking about.
00:43:13
I saw Looper once and I was half paying attention because that movie was ass.
00:43:17
But it's like.
00:43:19
Yeah.
00:43:20
Everybody loves that movie.
00:43:21
It's got 93 percent of Rotten Tomatoes.
00:43:24
Looper?
00:43:25
10.4.
00:43:26
Looper?
00:43:27
83 percent certified fresh.
00:43:29
Oh, I should not agree.
00:43:32
Dude, I hated that movie.
00:43:36
I just couldn't get over it.
00:43:37
Joseph Gordon-Levitt is literally just doing a Bruce Willis impression the whole time.
00:43:41
It was terrible.
00:43:42
Bruce Willis is in it.
00:43:44
I know.
00:43:45
Oh, that's even worse.
00:43:48
They're playing the same person.
00:43:50
Oh.
00:43:51
It's a time travel.
00:43:52
So like he's meeting his older self or whatever.
00:43:56
Oh, so he's just doing a bad Bruce Willis impression and then Bruce Willis is just being
00:44:02
Bruce Willis.
00:44:04
And I don't know.
00:44:05
I don't even really remember the plot.
00:44:06
It was so terrible.
00:44:07
Clearly, I'm like, I'm in that seven percent.
00:44:12
I did not think that it did well.
00:44:14
Yeah.
00:44:15
Oh, people love it.
00:44:16
Paul Dano is in it.
00:44:17
Love me some fucking Paul Dano.
00:44:20
Paul Dano is he's a gem.
00:44:23
That's true.
00:44:24
He's.
00:44:25
Never mind.
00:44:26
Well, I feel like we were on the brink of something.
00:44:34
Well, you're just going to call me a frapply.
00:44:38
He's a really good Joker, too.
00:44:40
Oh, wait.
00:44:41
No, he's Riddler.
00:44:42
Yeah, he was the Riddler.
00:44:43
He wasn't even Joker.
00:44:44
Oh, my God.
00:44:45
You're a frapple.
00:44:46
He doesn't even know their shit.
00:44:49
I just really love Joker.
00:44:51
Honestly, the Batman was a good film.
00:44:54
Also, it was a really good movie.
00:44:56
Yeah.
00:44:57
Michael Giacchino makes magic with his movies.
00:45:00
You don't even know what I'm talking about.
00:45:02
Michael Giacchino soundtrack.
00:45:04
Yeah.
00:45:05
Yeah.
00:45:06
Anyways, I was just going to say, if you want to see a solid time loop movie that's very
00:45:12
underrated.
00:45:13
Yeah.
00:45:14
Primer.
00:45:15
Primer.
00:45:16
Primer.
00:45:17
It's good.
00:45:18
Add it to your watch list.
00:45:22
Everybody do it.
00:45:23
Do it.
00:45:24
Primer.
00:45:25
Primer.
00:45:26
An indie psych fiction film.
00:45:33
Trust me.
00:45:34
Sounds like a slog.
00:45:37
A slog?
00:45:38
Yeah.
00:45:39
We're going to talk about a slog coming up here, but.
00:45:44
I'm Googling that.
00:45:46
Slog.
00:45:47
Yeah, like a slog.
00:45:49
Yeah.
00:45:52
All the Google definitions I'm getting, I don't think is what you're talking about.
00:45:57
Yeah.
00:45:58
Yes.
00:45:59
Yes.
00:46:00
Hard work.
00:46:01
Tiring?
00:46:02
Noun.
00:46:03
A spell of difficult, tiring, work or traveling.
00:46:09
Oh, no, it's not a slog.
00:46:12
It's good.
00:46:13
Like, you have to sit there and you have to watch it.
00:46:18
Like you do for a movie?
00:46:20
What?
00:46:21
Yeah, but like, but like some movies it's a slog and some movies it's a romp.
00:46:29
There's something in between that and that's what Primer is.
00:46:32
Because it's not hard to watch.
00:46:34
It's also not like a fun romp.
00:46:37
It's just like interesting.
00:46:38
It's good.
00:46:39
I promise it's good.
00:46:40
It's just a movie.
00:46:41
It's just, it's literally just a film.
00:46:44
Yeah.
00:46:45
It's neither a slog nor a romp.
00:46:49
It's a film.
00:46:50
Okay.
00:46:51
I'm glad we.
00:46:52
It was made, it was directed, it was produced.
00:46:57
Okay.
00:46:58
It is a film.
00:47:01
Oh, fuck.
00:47:04
I guess the only question left is would you survive Happy Death Day?
00:47:13
I mean, I'm not killing somebody with a cupcake.
00:47:15
That's for fucking sure.
00:47:17
Okay.
00:47:18
So probably.
00:47:19
All right.
00:47:20
Probably.
00:47:21
Would that give you like half a point for that?
00:47:26
No, I would live.
00:47:29
You would live.
00:47:30
I mean any, I'm not Laurie.
00:47:35
Okay.
00:47:36
Right?
00:47:37
I don't know.
00:47:38
I'm not going to kill somebody.
00:47:41
Not that I can think of.
00:47:43
Great.
00:47:44
You're on a great track then.
00:47:46
Yeah.
00:47:47
So I'm not going to kill somebody.
00:47:49
So therefore I'm not going to be killed by the person I'm trying to kill.
00:47:53
Great.
00:47:54
So I'm living.
00:47:57
Okay.
00:47:58
What about you?
00:48:00
Yeah.
00:48:01
Same thing.
00:48:02
I've never once tried to kill one of my friends.
00:48:05
Think I can avoid it?
00:48:08
Not yet.
00:48:09
Not yet.
00:48:10
Yeah, no.
00:48:13
So I think I can avoid the fate of the only person who actually truly dies in this movie.
00:48:19
I also don't think I would have Tree's fate because I'm not getting involved in a marriage.
00:48:29
That's a no.
00:48:30
Call me crazy if someone being married is a deal breaker for me.
00:48:35
So you're not Tree either.
00:48:38
Yeah.
00:48:39
I'm just Carter.
00:48:40
I'm just fucking vibing.
00:48:43
Dude, I'm Becky.
00:48:48
I'm the girl who literally just sits on the steps listening to music writing in her journal
00:48:53
the whole time.
00:48:54
That's me.
00:48:55
Okay.
00:48:56
That's fair.
00:48:57
I'm just vibing while someone gets tossed out a window next to me and I'm like, what the
00:49:01
fuck happened here?
00:49:04
She was pretty distraught by that.
00:49:06
I don't think you'd be that distraught.
00:49:08
I think I might be pretty distraught if someone got thrown out a window right next to me.
00:49:12
I am murder?
00:49:13
Okay.
00:49:14
Well, in the moment.
00:49:15
Like if you were just sitting there and one of your friends flew out of a window and died
00:49:21
in front of you, you wouldn't be like distraught over that.
00:49:26
Later when I found out she was a murderer, I'd be like, oh, okay.
00:49:31
Which friend is it?
00:49:32
I feel a little less bad.
00:49:33
Lori, she was part of their sorority.
00:49:34
No, I mean, which of my friends is it that's fallen out a window?
00:49:38
That would determine whether or not I'm upset about it.
00:49:41
Well, it's probably like a college friend, like your dorm mate.
00:49:45
I don't know.
00:49:47
You think sororities are sexy?
00:49:49
Who like, I did not say that.
00:49:55
Oh my God.
00:50:01
Anyway, we live.
00:50:05
We live.
00:50:06
We did it.
00:50:07
This is a pretty easy one.
00:50:09
Low death count.
00:50:10
Yeah.
00:50:11
Pretty easy to survive.
00:50:12
So I think we absolutely fucking nailed it.
00:50:17
Great.
00:50:21
I'm glad that we found your five until we find your next five.
00:50:26
Yeah, I need to go back and like comparatively rank everything.
00:50:33
I think we should do that.
00:50:35
Yeah.
00:50:36
I think once we hit our 25th episode, we should do maybe like a YouTube special where we just
00:50:43
like go through and re-rank all of our 25 movies against each other.
00:50:50
Yeah.
00:50:51
Agreed.
00:50:52
Great.
00:50:53
We could do it on a screen and like drag and drop.
00:50:58
Yeah.
00:50:59
Oh my God.
00:51:00
I'll make a template.
00:51:01
Look at us go.
00:51:02
Yeah.
00:51:03
So fun.
00:51:04
All right.
00:51:05
Well, thanks for listening.
00:51:06
I'm going to go and do my crocs.
00:51:07
I'm kidding.
00:51:08
I'm kidding.
00:51:09
But yeah, we'll see you next week.
00:51:12
Bye.
00:51:13
There it is.
00:51:14
All right.
00:51:15
Well, that wraps it up for today.
00:51:22
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00:51:26
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00:51:29
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00:51:31
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