97. Triangle movie explained

Cassidy (00:25) Hello? Kd (00:27) Hi! Happy Tuesday. Cassidy (00:31) Ish. Yeah, yeah. This is our first episode after the election last week. Vibes are low. Vibes are down. It's... I think... Yeah, yeah. I think us, like many Americans right now, are having a really tough time. But we're here. Kd (00:33) Yeah, could be better. We're fighting for our lives. Cassidy (00:57) We're mourning and then we're fighting. That's the vibe. But we're here for a distraction. Sending good vibes to everybody out there who needs them. Kd (01:00) Mm-hmm. Yep, that's all we can do. Cassidy (01:10) Yeah. Yep. Well, we can do more than good vibes, but right now we're in the good vibes state. We'll get to the state where I can, you know, hop out of bed every morning. Yeah. Yeah. Kd (01:19) Yes. Do more than that, yeah. Eat breakfast. Ugh, shoot. Well, might as well hop into it. We're hear to talk about Triangle. But first... News. Horror news. Cassidy (01:35) Yeah, we are. We are. News Horror news, I'll go first. Silent Night, Deadly Night. It's like an 80s slasher Christmas movie. It's getting a remake Kd (01:53) Mm. Cassidy (01:55) and it's coming from Cineverse, which is the same company behind the Terrifier series. So if you're a fan of the... If you're a fan of the Terrifier movies, which someone here is not, two people might not be, but that's okay. Kd (01:55) Cute. Great. Haha Cassidy (02:12) Then you might be excited about it. I do feel like my memory of that movie, it would fit well with that type of vibe. But anyways, it's expected to start filming soon with Mike P. Nelson as the writer and director. He did not do Terrifier, but he did do a segment of V/H/S/85, which I actually really liked. So I'm kind of excited, you know, I didn't mind that. But also did the recent reboot of Wrong Turn, which I did not see but I didn't hear great things about. So who's to say? Who's to say? Not me. Mike, I wish you all the best. It's aiming for a late 2025 theatrical release, so we might have it in time for next holiday season. Kd (02:59) Probably movies are tricky in that regard because if you miss it, you gotta wait a whole year. Cassidy (03:04) Yeah, you can't release a Christmas-themed movie after Christmas. People are done. They're getting ready for New Year's. It's over. You missed it. Kd (03:09) No way, weird. Yeah, I complained about this for Halloween too. There were Halloween movies releasing like on Halloween. Like you gotta give me time to like buffer, you know, you gotta give me. Yeah, I want to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (03:19) Yeah. To watch it beforehand, Yeah, me, I don't care, because I'll watch a horror movie or a Halloween-themed movie any time of year, but. Kd (03:30) Yeah, but it's like, you know, to see it in a theater, you know. It's more fun. Cassidy (03:33) Yeah, yeah, yeah. It definitely adds to it when it's that vibe and everybody is in the same vibe as you. Yeah. Kd (03:39) Yeah. Speaking of Terrifier. In a group chat my boss to me said that she would be watching all, unprompted, all the terrifying movies for Halloween and every single person in the group chat responded, why? And that just was so validating. Cassidy (03:46) Okay. Great. Yeah. Did she enjoy them? Kd (04:04) She's seen them. Cassidy (04:05) She's already seen them, it's a re-watch. Okay, great! Kd (04:07) She chose to watch them again. It's a choice. Cassidy (04:11) Yeah, you know what? Some people really love those movies. They're not for me. But you know what? I think some people watch the Saw movies and think, who the fuck would like those? And I do. So. Kd (04:26) Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. Cassidy (04:31) I can't judge too hard. Kd (04:33) Yeah. I can. I'm joking. Okay, first news from me. I'm really excited about both of my news. They're both my - very on brand for me. We're getting a new Godzilla movie. Cassidy (04:43) Okay. Mm. Nice. Kd (04:50) Yes, Godzilla Minus One is the most recent installment. And if you don't know, it fucking slapped. I've seen it like seven times in theaters. It had the third highest box office of any foreign movie ever in the United States. That one was directed by Takashi Yamazaki. Well, production has been greenlit for Yamazaki to head up another installment. It's unclear if it's a sequel to Minus One, but tiny spoiler, the way that Minus One ended left us very much open for a direct sequel. Like within hours even. Cassidy (05:22) I still have yet to see that. Kd (05:24) You got to, it's so good. Cassidy (05:26) I think it - is it still in theaters? It was just re-released back into theaters. So I might just go see it in theaters, because that seems like the vibe. Kd (05:29) It came back. Yeah, they keep bringing it back. Yeah, don't don't see it in black and white first see it in color first. Yeah, I didn't figure you would, but. Cassidy (05:39) I wasn't gonna. Just, yeah, no. Kd (05:44) Also just side - another side note. I'm gonna I'm gonna just gonna derail us a little bit more Sorry, I sound like I've smoked a couple packs of cigarettes a day for the last couple weeks. It's because I have. Just kidding. I have a cough. I have a cough. Cassidy (05:46) Mm-hmm. Yeah, why not? What? Kd (06:02) I can, I am hearing myself not sounding like myself and it's really bothering me so I had to address it. Cassidy (06:09) We've gone so far off the rails since the election. kd is now smoking nine packs a day. No, just kidding. Do not smoke. It's bad for you. Don't vape either. That shit's gross. No, don't stop. Don't put tobacco in your mouth. Stop. Kd (06:16) Yeah, at least. No, yeah, no. Yeah, no. Zen. Just kidding. Don't do that either. We've really been thinking about it. That's not tobacco, that's nicotine. Okay. All right. Cassidy (06:31) Don't do that either! Stop! We're not, we're not promoting. We gotta go back to the 90s. We almost, we almost beat nicotine. And then, yeah, it was going so far down and then vaping started. And Gen Z was like, hell yeah, give me that bubblegum flavor! Kd (06:42) We did? You know what's better than cigarettes? Electric cigarettes. Cigarettes I have to plug in. Cassidy (06:55) Cotton candy fucking cigarettes, let's go. Anyways, this is our anti-vaping messaging in the middle of our thing. Yeah, that's better, honestly. Kd (07:00) Don't do that, we don't condone smoking. You could just smoke some weed. Cassidy (07:08) If you have to rely on a substance. Kd (07:10) It's not the worst one. Cassidy (07:14) It's not the worst one. okay. kd was sick. That's the whole point of that. Yeah. Last news for me is just, it's kind of a downer. Tony Todd passed away. Kd (07:17) Okay, more news, horror news, horror news. Yeah, yeah, I have a cough. Cassidy (07:33) So yeah, I just kind of wanted to say rest in peace to him. He's a horror icon. He's known for playing Candyman and William Bludworth in the Final Destination franchise. And that doesn't even scratch the surface. Like he's been in so many movies, horror and not, and just a fantastic actor and very sad to see him pass away. Kd (07:55) He wasn't that old either, he was like 78. Cassidy (07:58) I thought he was younger than that. Am I crazy? Yeah, he was 69. I know, yeah, he was still pretty young. Kd (08:04) God. I don't know I got 78 from. I made that shit up. Cassidy (08:11) I don't either that yeah you kind of just pulled that out yeah. I was like, I don't think so but yeah rest in peace Tony Todd. Kd (08:20) Yeah, rest in peace. Okay, another fun one. Up the vibe a little bit more. Cassidy (08:26) Good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can't end on a sad vibe. Kd (08:30) Yeah. On brand for me again, The Fly remake has begun development. Nikyatu Jusu is remaking David Cronenberg's masterpiece from the 80s. We talked about a few episodes ago. Go listen to that if you haven't already. The plot for the new adaptation is still under wraps, but it sounds like it's going to be - Cassidy (08:37) Okay. Kd (08:52) It's not gonna be a direct remake. It's more like Fly Universe, in universe adaptation. No release date or year even. But something to look forward to. Cassidy (08:56) Okay. Remember when we did that episode and you were like convinced that it was getting a remake and it hadn't? At that point it was not announced. Because you were thinking of the ant movie, Them or whatever, or They. And you were like, yeah, yeah, Zendaya's gonna be in the remake. And I was so on board. I was like, yes, I heard that too. We didn't, but now we did. It's true. Maybe not starring Zendaya, but it's happening. Kd (09:15) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They, them. Hahaha Now it's true. It's really happening. I don't even think we have a cast. Cassidy (09:34) Probably not, if it just got announced that it's in the works. Kd (09:37) Yeah. Exciting though. They haven't fucked up one of those movies yet. Cassidy (09:42) That is exciting. Well. You didn't watch all of the sequels. Kd (09:47) You're right. I'm, yeah, you're right. I didn't watch the sequels. I only watched the first one. Cassidy (09:51) Yeah. Yeah. Alright, do you want to talk about Triangle? Kd (09:56) Yeah, let's do it. Cassidy (09:57) Cool. If it's been a while since you've seen it, or you don't care to see it, here's what it's about. So five friends set sail and their yacht is overturned by a strange and sudden storm. A mysterious ship arrives to rescue them and what happens next cannot be explained, although it can. And we're gonna do that now. Anyways, that's from IMDb. It was written and directed by Christopher Smith. It stars Melissa George and Michael Dorman. It has a 6.9. out of 10 on IMDb, a 78 % critics score and a 66 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. It had a budget of 12 million, but it only made 1.3 to 1.6 million at the box office. However, I believe it only received theatrical releases in the UK, Belgium and the Netherlands from what I could find. So not really a wide release and audiences and critics liked it, it just didn't do well. So maybe they didn't like it. Kd (11:04) The people who reviewed it liked it. Cassidy (11:05) Yeah. I guess we'll find out if we liked it. That's what matters. We don't care about other people's opinions. We're here to strictly talk about our own opinions. Kd (11:10) Yeah, yeah. Yeah, who cares about other guys? Yeah. Cassidy (11:17) Yeah, fuck em. Kd (11:20) Yeah, 12 million dollar budget and a good chunk of that was sponsored by the United Kingdom National Lottery Fund. Very strange, I didn't know lottery funds could be allocated to movie development, but yeah. Cassidy (11:30) Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what the lottery fund in the UK is really, so I don't know if that's like what I as an American think of as the lottery fund. I don't know. And I didn't research it because I'm not a professional. So I don't know. I don't know if it's like a film lottery that like you can, I don't know. I don't know. Someone tell us because I'm not going to Google it. Kd (11:47) Yeah. Good point. Haha Yeah, good point. Yeah. I just assumed. I just assumed it was like the lottery like us. Cassidy (12:09) Yeah, that's what I kind of thought too, but then I was like, no, maybe not. And that's how we ended up here. Kd (12:15) Well, yeah, well, somebody tell us, we don't know. Anyway, did you watch the documentary I sent you? Cassidy (12:25) I did, I watched it on like 2x speed though, because I was running out of time. Look at us go! It was cool though! Kd (12:27) Me too. Yeah, me too. I wasn't even running out of time. I just didn't want to watch it at regular speed. Yeah. Cassidy (12:34) Amazing. Yeah, we'll have to link it in the description, but it's like a 40 minute behind the scenes of them making Triangle and it's pretty cool. It was like the yacht scenes were all filmed in a sound stage that they filled with water and were just throwing buckets of water and blowing wind on them and it looked awful, but maybe fun. They said the water was warm, so. Kd (12:59) Yeah. 32 degrees Celsius. Cassidy (13:03) I was assuming that was Celsius, yeah, because they're all like Australian and English, even though the movie's set in Miami. Kd (13:08) Yeah. But no, they, to your point, they built an entire ocean liner. Not an entire one, like the front half and the side of the ocean liner. If you use Google Earth history, you can see it. No, did you? Cassidy (13:19) The side, yeah. Did you do it? No. I didn't have time. Kd (13:34) It's actually really cool. They built it on a jetty that was just very much wide enough for an ocean liner to sit on. It was very cool. So that way it always looked like it, no matter where you're filming from, always looked like it was just in the middle of the ocean. But anyway, yeah, you can see it on Google Earth history. Maybe I'll put the coordinates and the dates in the description. Cassidy (13:46) Hmm. Yeah. Do it. Yeah. Kd (14:04) Cool. That was all the outside of the boat. The inside of the boat, I'll talk about this forever, the inside of the boat, like the bowels and the engine room and stuff, was filmed on a naval frigate boat from World War II, one of the last, I think maybe the last, river-class frigate ship, which is an anti-submarine escort called the Diamantina. Cassidy (14:11) Okay. Mm-hmm. A frigate. My gosh. Mm. Diamantina. Kd (14:32) And you can tour the Diamantina now in Queensland. Cassidy (14:35) How fun! Kd (14:37) But because it's like history. History. This might be too much. I have this whole set of like Pearl Harbor history books. My favorite gifts I've ever been given. And they talk about the Riverglass Frigates. They're very important. Cassidy (14:42) Yeah. Kd (14:58) I looked it up. Cassidy (15:00) Is that because you were actually interested in the history or because you just really liked the movie? Kd (15:06) No, I didn't like the movie until- I liked the history first and then I watched the movie and then I was really hooked. Cassidy (15:09) Okay, and then you watched the movie. That really pushed it over the edge, huh? Yeah. I get it. I saw Josh Hartnett in it. Understandable. Yeah, I mean more about set, I guess. They were gonna build like the bridge, which the whole time the characters are trying to find the bridge so they can talk to the crew. But due to delays in funding, they weren't able to build it in time. So it kind of came around, and this is in the behind the scenes that you sent me as well. The girl was talking about how she was... Kd (15:33) Mm-hmm. Cassidy (15:48) She's like, I'm just not going to tell him until it's time because he's going to be very upset - about the director because this whole thing has been leading up to this moment. And that's where Sally was supposed to die was the bridge. And they had to redo that and have her just die on an outer section of the boat instead. Kd (16:07) Yeah, that whole... the way she said that... Cassidy (16:11) Mm-hmm. Kd (16:12) The way she was like, he's gonna lose his shit and he lost his shit. Gave me, kind of, I was just a little like, yeah. Yeah, the- Cassidy (16:19) Gave you the ick. Yeah, it was like gross, ew. The fact that she was so scared to tell him that and she was right to be scared, like calm down, it's a fucking movie. I mean, I do get like there's very high stakes in the movie industry because it's a lot of money that goes into it, but at the end of the day, like it's not that serious. Kd (16:26) And she was right. Yeah, I mean... Yeah. Yeah, it's still a job and you have to have, you have to maintain a certain aspect of decorum when it's, yeah, especially when you're the boss. You can just go around yelling at people and like, just like through the whole documentary, people kind of like skirted around how they felt about Chris Smith. I don't know, it just gave me the, sorry Chris, if you're a perfectly normal guy, but the odds of that are very low. So I don't feel too bad. Cassidy (16:45) And professionalism. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I thought it was funny because it was... I don't know if it was like a fun fact or something that I was reading. Maybe it was on Reddit. But someone was like, yeah, I was really excited about this movie because I love his other films or I love his other work, like Creep and Severance. And I was like, what? Not the Creep and Severance that you're thinking of right now. It's a movie Severance, not the TV show, and then a different Creep than the one that we've mentioned a couple times from Mark Duplass. Yeah, just two different things. And I was like, he worked on those things? And then he didn't. Well, he did, but not the ones I was thinking of, I guess. Kd (17:39) Yeah. Okay. Cassidy (17:49) So that was just funny to me. Kd (17:49) I thought, I've never seen Severance or Creep and I thought of the ones that you're not talking about. Cassidy (17:54) Yeah. You never watched Severance? Kd (17:56) I think I watched the first episode in Mexico. I was really drunk. Cassidy (18:01) Yeah, they were forcing, they were literally force feeding it to me. Yeah. Kd (18:05) Yeah. And for what? Us to never think about it ever again. Cassidy (18:10) I did end up finishing it. Yeah, I did. It was fine. Yeah, it was good. It just it felt like one of those things where you're watching it - And I got nervous because I was like, this is really good. But it feels like they're adding things in just to because it's weird to see that. And I was like, I worry that they don't have a plan for it. And that they're just throwing stuff in to be weird and be like, well, what does that have to do with anything? You know what I mean? Kd (18:12) Did you? Did you like it? Okay. Mm-hmm. Cassidy (18:38) And then I looked it up and the director said, yeah, we were just throwing in stuff to be weird, but now we have a plan for it. And I was like, so that's what I was worried about though, because if you don't have a plan for it beforehand and you're just making a plan to fit what you've already done, it never turns out as good as if you have a plan beforehand. So I'm very apprehensive about the next season that's coming out, but who knows, maybe I'll be wrong. Kd (18:53) Yeah. Maybe it'll be good. Do think Heather survived? Cassidy (19:04) I don't think the odds are in her favor. Just stranded out in the middle of nowhere. Kd (19:11) a lot of people thought of it as like, the six people, yeah, the six people died and they're in purgatory now. And Heather lived. We know this because she didn't make it to purgatory. Cassidy (19:13) She's saved from the loop. Mmm. Yeah, so I guess when I think of it, I think of it more being that Jess died in the car accident and this is her punishment. So I don't really think of the other people as like active players. Is - that's my interpretation is that she died in the car accident. Kd (19:36) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Cassidy (19:48) And then now this is her punishment for being an abusive parent is that she has to relive this day over and over and over again. And I think even at the end, it kind of makes it clear that she can leave. Like when the taxi driver or the ferryman or whatever is like, I'll leave the meter running, you're coming back, right? And she says, you know, yeah, I'll be right back. But she's not, she's getting back on the boat. I think that kind of implied that she does have this option to end it if she would like to and pass on, but she's choosing not to because... Kd (19:52) Yeah. Mm. Cassidy (20:17) She thinks she can fix it and she can't. So I guess that was my interpretation. Kd (20:20) Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, I mean, I think that that is the correct interpretation. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there's there's a lot of Greek mythology parallels and and Chris Smith has even said, like, it's very much that like you did something wrong. You are now doomed to push the rock uphill for the rest of your life. Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (20:32) Thank you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right, I mean they say it in the movie, they make references to Sisyphus and the ship, Aeolus, has like, I think three different meanings in mythology, which adds to the triangle thing, so that's a whole thing. But one of them is that he was the father of Sisyphus. So yeah, I think, I don't know, maybe they are in their own version of hell where they just have to get murdered every day, multiple times. Kd (21:07) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cassidy (21:19) In that case, maybe, yeah, maybe Heather did survive because she's not in the purgatory, but I think she still kind of is because she's there at the beginning, you know, she's still in that loop. Kd (21:28) Yeah, yeah. Cassidy (21:30) I don't know. Kd (21:31) Yeah, she just is the first to die in the loop. Yeah, yeah. I mean, so many people think that she lived like... Cassidy (21:40) Yeah, which I get, like I get that interpretation. Kd (21:44) It's wrong. Cassidy (21:45) It's not my interpretation. Kd (21:47) Hahaha! Yeah, but one more thing on like the Greek mythology the marching band the like symbol on the marching band that interlocked A and O and I think it's also on the kit in the - Yeah, it's on the drum kit in the in the cruise ship Yeah, yeah, it's the anglicized version of alpha and omega which obviously in Greek is the beginning and end. Cassidy (21:55) Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, in the like dining hall. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it definitely dives into that a bit. And I think them being the same also kind of flows into that theory of this is her purgatory, she's reliving it, it's all the same world, right? Yeah. Kd (22:34) The idea, which is it's funny that the idea didn't come from the Greek mythology. The Greek mythology was kind of added as an afterthought. But Chris Smith said that the idea came from the concept of like what if you're about to get on an abandoned ship and you see someone on the ship looking down at you and you find out later that that person looking down at you was you. That was obviously exactly what happened in the film. But he had to kind of build around that concept. Cassidy (22:44) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Kd (23:04) And then producer Jason Newmark also said they thought about like, what makes the victim become the villain and like what steps would they need to take in order to become the killer essentially. So that was kind of how they developed all the plot points and like what would need to happen to her in order for her to become the bad guy ultimately. Cassidy (23:23) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think when he like initially pitched that idea too of you realize that the person you saw was yourself I think the people he like pitched it to were like, yeah, that's a great twist for the end. And he was like no, no that happens right away. That's not where we're going Kd (23:35) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Some other producer said, you know, like, the first few minutes of the movie, you know exactly what's happening. And then you're like, what the fuck is happening for the rest of the movie? Cassidy (23:58) Yeah. When did you kind of figure it out? I haven't seen this movie in a long time, so I'm curious from the perspective of someone who just saw it for the first time. Kd (24:09) I mean honestly, I didn't like know until the mirror scene when she walks out, she sees the boat, and I was like, fuck. She's stuck in a loop Cassidy (24:16) Mm. Kd (24:22) Which that scene was very cool how they filmed that. Did you see, you watched the thing. They have, just for the people who haven't seen it, they built this like cabinet with the mirror or whatever and the cabinet part's on wheels. They just kind of like wheeled it out and she was able to like walk right through it. Cassidy (24:39) Yeah, very cool. Kd (24:40) Pretty cool. Anyway, that's the first time. That's pretty early in the movie. 20 minutes, 25 minutes, she walks out and sees the boat. That's when I figured it out. Cassidy (24:46) Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm like, I'm trying to remember, because I know I watched this when I was on like a time loop kick. So I can't remember if I watched this knowing that that's what it was or not. Because I don't remember being like, my god, that's what's happening. So I'm assuming it was one of the movies I watched because I was specifically looking for time loop horror movies. Kd (24:53) What about you? Yeah. Yeah. You know what else gave it away? I don't remember if this is before or after that. It must have been before. When, Sally? Cassidy (25:26) Mm-hmm. Kd (25:27) Right? Is that her name, Sally? Cassidy (25:29) Sally, yeah? She's the one that's married to Downey. Kd (25:32) Yeah, I watched this movie like four days ago, so it's like, when she said, you shot him, I was like, God, what if there's another one of her? And so that might've actually been what gave it away. I just wanted to talk about the mirror scene as well. That's what actually gave it away. Cassidy (25:36) You Yeah. yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, I like it. I think now too I've watched enough time loop movies where I do kind of start suspecting it if there's a movie where things are happening at the beginning that can't really - like that aren't explained at all. Like the knock on the door and she goes out and there's someone there and that kind of stuff where it's like okay wait but who knocked on her door like we can't just ignore that. So now sometimes that happens in a movie and my mind is like time loop! It was her. But at the time I watched it I don't think that was Kd (26:13) Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (26:24) in my mind. It's hard to remember. It was a long time ago when I first saw it. Kd (26:29) When did this come out? 2006, 2008. Cassidy (26:32) Mm-hmm 2009 I think in the US Kd (26:36) Nine! Cassidy (26:38) I put this one, this wasn't originally on our schedule, I put it on there just for you. Cause you wanted time themed horror. This was the first one that popped into my head. It's not really, yeah, you asked for time travel and I guess it's not really. Kd (26:44) Why? Cool. I forgot I said that. Yeah, time loop and time travel are different. Cassidy (26:59) Yeah, they are. They are. I'll have to put a real time travel one on there for you. Kd (27:04) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not complaining though. I mean, I... This was fun. Cassidy (27:12) Yeah, I think it's a fun film. Kd (27:14) Mm-hmm. Cassidy (27:15) Makes a lot of references to The Shining. And even in the behind the scenes you sent me, they talked about that. So it's clear that that was an influence. Yeah, the number of the room that she kills Downey in, and there's messaging in the walls and stuff. The room's referenced a few times, but it's room 237, which is the room in The Shining. The room in The Shining. Kd (27:18) I like The Shining. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Cassidy (27:45) Blood on the mirror image, a ballroom, an axe, stacks of papers with the same sentence written on them, all shown throughout this movie that are famously in The Shining. Kd (27:57) Yeah, even - I don't know if you notice even the wallpaper in the staterooms was very much like the carpet. Cassidy (28:02) Mm-hmm. Yeah, the flooring. Kd (28:06) I don't like that word, I don't like saying that word, sorry. Cassidy (28:08) What word? Kd (28:10) C-carpet. Cause it moves through your mouth funny. It just like, it goes from the back of your throat all the way to the front of your mouth. I don't like that. Cassidy (28:16) I forgot you - Carpet. Yeah, I kinda like that. It feels like it's coming out. Like a, like 3D. Kd (28:24) See? No. I don't like that. No. It's not for me. Cassidy (28:35) Yeah. It's just the way that it comes out of your mouth. If I say it, does it bother you? Okay. Kd (28:43) Little bit. We don't have to talk about it anymore. Cassidy (28:45) I won't then. Yeah, no, we can move on. I would hate to... cause you distress. Kd (28:48) Yeah, okay, all right. Thanks. Cassidy (28:54) I thought it was funny that in the little behind the scenes you sent me, I can't remember her name. There was a woman in it and she was talking about how, Liam Hemsworth, he's so great and he's gonna be the next big thing. And this is one of the first movies he ever did right before Hunger Games. So she wasn't wrong, but also he kind of fell off after that. So. Kd (29:18) Well... Cassidy (29:18) He was really big and now nobody thinks about him anymore. Unless they hear Flowers on the radio. Kd (29:23) Yeah, well, exactly. I was gonna say, I think about him all the time. Yeah, and Knowing were released the same year. Those were his first feature films other than that. He was just on TV and they cast him the day before filming started. The producers talked about that in the documentary a lot that they screen tested an enormous number of people. They said of all races and creeds and landed on the most Cassidy (29:36) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Kd (30:00) white Cassidy (30:01) Generic looking motherfucker. Kd (30:02) generic looking guy. Liam. Liam? Liam. One of the two of us might have said Chris. Cassidy (30:07) Yeah, Liam. Liam Hensworth. I don't even think we said his name. Maybe I did when I said they were talking about him. I think I said Liam. Who's to say? If you're listening now, comment below what I said. Kd (30:14) well. Yeah, you probably said Liam. Hahaha! Cassidy (30:26) I like Melissa George though. She was a good casting choice. She plays Jess. Kd (30:30) What else is she in that we've seen? Cassidy (30:33) Amityville Horror, the remake. I think that's the only thing of hers that we've watched. She's been in other things though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was in Turistas, which is a horror movie. She was in 30 Days of Night, which is a horror movie. Kd (30:34) That's right. Is that the only thing? If she's offscreen, Queen. Cassidy (30:52) Yeah, she's also been on like Grey's Anatomy, Lie to Me. She's been on shows too that you might be thinking of. Kd (30:58) Grey's Anatomy. Like one time, one day, a patient? Cassidy (31:03) 8 episodes, Dr. Sadie Harris. Kd (31:06) Oh my god, you're so right. Wow. Crazy. Cassidy (31:11) Yeah, I knew that off the top of my head. I definitely don't have her IMDb open right now. Kd (31:16) That's funny. I knew I her from somewhere other than Amityville. Lindsay Lohan was rumored to have been considered for that role. But they, Cassidy (31:31) Yeah. Kd (31:34) I guess Christopher Smith had seen Melissa George in the movie, or in the show, In Treatment. Which I'd never heard of, but she falls in love with her psychotherapist. Cassidy (31:40) Mmm. Yeah. Kd (31:45) So... Cassidy (31:45) And that Kd (31:46) that did it for him, I guess. Cassidy (31:48) related to this movie how? Kd (31:51) Damn it, I couldn't tell ya. Cassidy (31:52) He saw that and was like, yeah, yeah, you could play a child abuser. Kd (31:58) Yeah, right? Of, a child abuser doomed to kill her friends. Cassidy (32:02) Yeah, I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh when I say that. It's not funny. It's very much like the worst part of this movie is watching that happen. Kd (32:06) Terrible. Cassidy (32:11) Very sad. Yeah, not - uncomfortable for sure. Kd (32:11) Shocking. Yeah. Mm-hmm. What other fun facts do have? Cassidy (32:18) I mean, there's lots of little Easter eggs throughout this, I guess. Yeah, when she crashes her car, you can see like the eight on the license plate, but that's the only number that shows and it looks like an infinity symbol. When she's driving on the road, there's a sign that says return back, which is kind of a hint of her repeating the cycle. There's lots of things like that throughout the movie. She's shown waking up three times, also kind of a hint at the triangle. There's a lot of triangle motifs in this. Kd (32:54) There's three versions of Jess on the ship at any given time. Cassidy (32:58) True, yes. There's three of her in the mirror that's shown in the room, which also kind of hints at the three of her on the ship. Kd (33:07) Yep. Yeah. Cassidy (33:08) At the beginning of the film she passes a sign that says goodbye, please return, you know, again, kind of that motif. She's always going back. It's a loop. Kd (33:18) The ferryman's right there. He's like, come, you're gonna come back. Cassidy (33:22) He's like, hey, meter's running. She's like, I gotta save my kid. And then she doesn't. Kd (33:28) He says nothing's gonna bring him back. He says that to her. She doesn't believe him. Cassidy (33:32) He says it to her, yeah. Yeah. She doesn't believe him. Kd (33:39) I get it though. Your kid's dead and you feel guilty about it. Cassidy (33:42) Yeah. Also, there's like the theory that when she falls asleep on the boat, her memory resets and that's why she's confused because the movie is set not in the first loop. Like this has happened many times before that. We are not seeing her first time in the loop at all, even though you're kind of led to believe that at first. You realize quickly that this has happened a lot and she's very confused when it all first starts, which kind of leads to the theory that when she falls asleep on the boat, that is when her Kd (33:54) Yes, yeah, many times. Mm-hmm. Cassidy (34:13) memory kind of resets and she wakes up not really remembering what happened. So yes, maybe she is able to stop the loop, but I think when she - she still thinks she can fix it knowing what she knows and not realizing that it's going to reset when she falls asleep. Kd (34:32) Yep. Yeah, I mean, you see all the necklaces that she gets her necklace caught. You see all those and all the bodies. Yeah, the Sally's, all the birds. Yeah. Cassidy (34:33) Yeah. all of the Sallys. Yeah, yeah, it's not, it's not her first rodeo. Kd (34:48) Yeah, it bothered me at first that like, why are there, you know, like why are there so many bodies and like why aren't they in the exact same place? And it just, if I don't, you just gotta not think about it so much. She's in her own little world. None of these people are real. It's like her own little like purgatory. It's not real, yeah. Cassidy (34:59) Mm-hmm. Hahaha! Yeah. Yeah, I think if you watch this with the mindset that it's just a time loop, there's a lot of holes in it. If you watch it with the mindset that it's a purgatory and this is a punishment, then it's kind of like, okay, now it makes more sense. Yeah. Kd (35:24) Mm-hmm. Yep. Yeah, and I mean the the concept, the original concept is not that - I mean it's it's original but it's not that like big brain, you know, it's not It's just you know, what would make you be the villain? If you you know, yeah Cassidy (35:45) Realizing why she deserves the punishment is kind of more of the interesting factor of it, I guess. Kd (35:53) Yeah, and that's the other thing is like, does she know? How much of her memory is erased when she falls asleep. Does she know that she is a child abuser or does she just genuinely miss her son? Cassidy (36:04) I think so. I think she knows. Because I think it's... Yeah. I think she just wakes up without memory that like her and her son died, right? And that she's in a loop. But I think that... Because I don't think that this is something that happened that morning and that's it. I think that this is probably a repeated behavior of her not being emotionally, mentally, financially equipped to handle a child with special needs. Kd (36:25) Yeah. Cassidy (36:38) That's not an excuse to be abusive. I'm just saying, I think that that is what's the underlying cause here is that she was not prepared for this at all. And she's taking those frustrations out on her child. Yeah. So I think that all probably was a theme throughout her life much farther back than the morning of the accident. Kd (37:03) Yeah. And it sucks because the first half of the movie you want to like her. And then you realize, like, bitch, you did this to yourself. Cassidy (37:07) Mm-hmm. Kd (37:10) They didn't even have to make her the villain. She was the villain. Cassidy (37:13) Right. But I think they almost do a good job of like... pulling you into that. Because you almost want to believe, no, she's not that person that she was. And she even says it, that's not me. That woman who did that to you is not me. She says that to her kid and it is her. But they do such a good job of like not showing you those parts of her until the end where you're like, wait, no, but like the girl I've been following wouldn't do that, right? And I think that that was very... Kd (37:25) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cassidy (37:44) smart of them to do, because I think that that's how people feel about a lot of people like that, is, there's no way that this person could do that. And they could. They could. Kd (37:49) Mm-hmm. I think I I personally think that this movie justifies a remake. Cassidy (38:03) Okay. Kd (38:04) I mean, the concept's wicked. I love the concept. I'm just imagining this as like a Christopher Nolan or a Denny V, huge budget, new age of actors. I just don't think it got the story, the concept, or like got the... Cassidy (38:17) Mm-hmm. Kd (38:23) what it deserved, the justice it deserved, or like the budget and the time and cast it deserved necessarily. Cassidy (38:31) I don't, I think... I don't think Christopher Nolan, who is notorious for never writing like an interesting strong female character, should be in charge of a remake of this. Where like she is a very interesting, in-depth, complex female character and he's not known for doing that in any capacity. So, no. Kd (38:45) Well... Yeah. I'm just like production value. mean, don't mean that he should be the one to have it, but like production value. Give it to Denny V then. We like him. I like him. Cassidy (39:03) Yeah. Hahaha Alright. Kd (39:14) And he works with Hans Zimmer, so we'd get a slappin score. Cassidy (39:17) There you go. Kd (39:19) Yeah. But anyway, and it's no shade or anything to the film. I thought it was good. It's just, you know, it's just a product of its time. And I think in five to 10 years using the technology we have and this kind of new wave of really great actors and actresses, it would be good. Not that no, not, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know, like the Euphoria cast. You know what I mean? Like, just, there's just like a... Cassidy (39:29) Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, these guys sucked. Boo, these guys. What? Kd (39:48) Zendaya! Cassidy (39:50) Yeah, she's great. You want to watch the Euphoria cast in this? Kd (39:51) Sydney Sweeney. I'm just saying like that's the caliber of talent we have now. I'm not saying they need to be the ones that need to be in it. Five, 10 years from now, it'll probably be some nobody and I hope it is some nobody. Give them a chance. Cassidy (40:01) Got it. No, it'll be some... it'll be some actor's kid. It's always an actor's kid. Kd (40:15) Producer. Cassidy (40:18) Yeah, someone's kid is gonna be in it. Kd (40:21) I found a new, I found a new... Nepo Baby! Yeah, the lead singer of Toto. Cassidy (40:25) Nepo baby? Great. Kd (40:29) John Williams' son. Who knew? Cassidy (40:35) Not me. You'd think that they'd have more than one hit. Kd (40:39) Well, to be fair, he wasn't even part of the band when they made that hit. There's been like four different lead singers of Toto. He's the most recent one. Yeah, but he wasn't, yeah, he would... No, no. Which when I first found out, I told everybody I fucking know, you know who this guy's singing is? John Williams' son, until I actually did the research and it's not. Cassidy (40:43) Oh, okay. Okay. Got it, got it. Cool. So he didn't even do the song. He didn't even do Africa, huh? And you were, yeah. I love that. I love lying for fun. Kd (41:08) Well, I wasn't lying. I was just dumb. I didn't- I was spreading misinformation is what I was doing, but still like the lead singer of Toto. Come on. Everybody knows Toto. Cassidy (41:11) Spreading misinformation. Come on, kd. Yeah, that's fair. For the one song he was not involved in at all. Kd (41:22) For the one song he didn't write. Anyway, little tangent. Any more fun facts? Cassidy (41:30) Yeah. I thought it was just kind of cute that it's set in Miami, Florida, but it was filmed in Queensland. But both Florida and Queensland are known as the Sunshine State. So that nickname is seen on a road sign in the movie. And they could do it because Queensland is also the Sunshine State. Kd (41:51) Which is dumb because it's not a state, is it? Cassidy (41:53) Well, it's a, I don't know what they're called in Australia, Australian states. Kd (42:02) Just look up Queensland. Cassidy (42:04) States and territories. I think it is. Six federated states, including Queensland. It is a state. Kd (42:08) Okay, well. Interesting. Wow, who knew? Not me. Cassidy (42:17) Not us. Our one viewer in Australia knew. What? Did I? Kd (42:20) That's fine. Did you turn into a pirate there for a second? Arrr. Cassidy (42:28) Our... Kd (42:28) You like growled it out. Cassidy (42:31) You and I = our one viewer in Australia knew. Yeah, shout out to you. If you're listening to this in Australia, shout out to you specifically. I hope your day's going well. Listen! Kd (42:39) They did. They did know that. Yeah. Yeah, we shout out our Australian listener so much. Cassidy (42:52) Yeah, we love them. Kd (42:53) Yeah, we do. We should go there. Cassidy (42:56) Okay. Do you have any other fun facts? Okay. Kd (43:00) No. I think we did a pretty good job, a bang up job explaining it. Cassidy (43:06) I think so too. Yeah, if you were confused before, not anymore. Not anymore. We wrote it down. We said it out loud. Now you know. Kd (43:07) Explained the shit out of this movie. Not anymore. We told ya. Well, let's rate it. Cassidy (43:22) Okay. Kd (43:23) I go first. How scary did you think it was? Cassidy (43:26) I gave it a 1. Kd (43:28) Mm-hmm. Cassidy (43:29) Yeah, I don't even remember being scared the first time I watched this. More intrigued about what was going on, you know? But not really that scary. What about you? Kd (43:35) Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I also gave it a one. I also the first time I watched this four days ago was not scared. Cassidy (43:46) Cool. How sexy did you think it was? Kd (43:50) I gave it a two. It had some vibes. You know, it also had some like contrary vibes. So only a two, nothing higher. Yeah, seriously. You? Cassidy (43:59) Yeah. Yeah, yeah, That's good. I give it a 1.5. Mainly for like ocean, stranded vibes. I agree. I was gonna give it more for like Melissa George, which she's great. She's beautiful, but like, you know, her character kind of sucks. So it kind of vetoes that. So yeah. Kd (44:09) Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the Titanic of it all, you know? Cassidy (44:30) I don't. Can you? Kd (44:32) You've never seen Titanic? Cassidy (44:35) No, I've never seen Titanic. kd, come on. Okay, yeah, but have you ever asked me if I've seen a movie and I've said no? No, that's never happened in the history of life. I've only ever asked you and you haven't seen movies that you need to see. Every movie a person... Okay, first of all, I've seen every movie that a person needs to see. Kd (44:37) Well, my husband hadn't until like six months ago. Yeah, what was the last time you watched Dune? Everybody needs to Dune! Everybody needs to see Dune! They need to see it in IMAX! Cassidy (45:02) Okay, I'm gonna see Dune, I swear, I'm gonna watch it when I have eight hours to kill, Jesus. Kd (45:09) Six and a half. You don't have to watch the second one. You'll want to. Cassidy (45:14) I'm so sorry. Some people have reactions to that. I shouldn't do that. It's just And I know I have to watch the first one, which I know the first one's just like setting up the second one, which is really annoying to me. And I don't want to watch three hours of setup. Whatever. Anyways, what about Titanic? For like two seconds. Kd (45:26) It's still good. It's still good and pretty. It's still good and pretty. It's pretty. It's pretty. It's fun to watch. It's the ambiance. It's the vibes. Zendaya's in it. She's in the second one even more. Cassidy (45:38) Four seconds. Kd (45:41) She's in the book even more. It was really sad, but whatever. Cassidy (45:44) Okay. Kd (45:46) Whatever. Cassidy (45:46) Why is this movie like Titanic? Kd (45:49) It's on a boat and people die. And that's kind of fun, you know? Cassidy (45:54) Great. Kd (45:56) You know. Cassidy (45:58) Yeah. Kd (45:59) Titanic was a steamy movie when it came out. Cassidy (46:03) Yeah, I would say Titanic's more sexy than this movie. Kd (46:06) Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like the Titanic vibes of this movie are what made it sexy. Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (46:10) Got it, okay. Now I get it, okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kd (46:15) That was all. Well, I'm just making sure. Cassidy (46:15) Have you seen Titanic. Kd (46:19) You better have three hours right now if you hadn't. We are fixing that. I could use a good cry. Cassidy (46:21) Hahaha Oh my god, I cannot cry anymore than I have this week. Kd (46:31) Ugh, seriously. Cassidy (46:34) Haha. Kd (46:36) How fucked up did you think it was? Cassidy (46:41) I give it a 1.5. I don't think it's really that fucked up except for the child abuse. That's like the fucked up part of it. Yeah. Kd (46:51) I gave it a two. Yeah, and the nail in the head. Or like the hook. Yeah, that, yeah. There was also a slur too. Cassidy (46:53) Because of that. The hook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a little gross. Yeah. Kd (47:06) It's just, you know, it's a product of its time. Yeah, yeah. Cassidy (47:09) It is. I also think like they don't. Like it's clear that she's a shitty person, the person who says it. So it's, I do think it's being condemned that they say it. It's not like they're promoting the usage of it. So. Kd (47:13) Yeah, they're not like, yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (47:25) Alright, overall, what did you think of Triangle? Kd (47:31) Triangle. It was a good movie. I think a fun kind of gateway horror. It wasn't too much gore. It wasn't really scary. It was more of like an ominous thriller with a little blood. The acting was on both ends of the spectrum, but mostly great. The set design was incredible. You could really feel the attention to detail there. I think there were some plot holes. You definitely can't think about it too much, which we've said about a couple movies recently. Cassidy (47:49) Mhm. Kd (48:01) I was a little bit lost in the shuffle sometimes. But still a great concept. I love the concept. And like I said, I think it deserves a remake. A good, a real good one. Big budget. 100 million. Make a real boat. Use a real ocean liner. Buy one. Buy one or something. I don't know. Anyway, all said, I gave it a three and half. Cassidy (48:23) That is correct. I did, yeah. Also, every time I say that, I think of Billy Madison. Have you seen Billy Madison? I was like, don't say no, Jesus. Kd (48:25) You give it a three and half two? Hell yeah, brother. Not in a long time. Of course I've seen all the Adam Sandler movie. Remember when I talked about Adam Sandler for like 20 minutes a couple episodes ago? Cassidy (48:44) Yeah, I had to cut some out. It was long. It was so long. If you heard the Adam Sandler rant last episode, it was twice as long. No, Yeah. Kd (48:54) My god. We'll release that on our Patreon. Full Adam Sandler rant coming to our Patreon. Just kidding. We don't have Patreon. Cassidy (49:04) Adam Sandler rant coming soon. No, but there's like a scene where he's trying to study, but he can't do it with the girl he's interested in because she, every time he gets something correct, she like takes off clothes, right? And so he's like, I can't do this. Like, it's not working well. And so it cuts to him doing it with Chris Farley's character. Kd (49:27) Hahahaha Cassidy (49:29) And there's just a scene where he just goes, that is correct. And starts taking his shirt off. And every time I say it, I think of that scene. That is correct. Kd (49:33) Haha! My god. Hahaha Cassidy (49:42) Anyways, I don't want to ruin your hopes and dreams. I don't think that a movie that did this poorly in the box office will ever get a remake, but I understand your sentiments for it. But yeah, I don't know. I gave it a 3.5 as well. I think this movie's fun. I am kind of a little bit of a slut for a time loop, if I'm being honest. I just think that that concept is really cool. And it just gets me going. But yeah, I think this is a fun movie and it's usually one of the ones where I think it's a little bit underrated, so I'll recommend it to people if they haven't seen it, because I'm like, yeah, go for it. Again, you kind of don't have to, you can't think about it too hard, otherwise it does, but I do think switching your mindset from time loop to purgatory kind of does fix a lot of those things. It makes a lot more sense and then it also kind of gives you a reason to stop questioning it so much, so. That does fix a lot of it for me. But yeah, it's a fun romp. Go for it. Yeah. Kd (50:44) Yeah, it was a good time. We've remade worse movies. Cassidy (50:50) Like what? Kd (50:52) Dune. For one. Cassidy (50:55) Yeah, but that wasn't a box office. It didn't. It did well, the original. Did it not? Kd (51:01) It was terrible! It was really bad. Cassidy (51:07) Was it? I'm gonna watch. If I watch the original, will you leave me alone? Why not? Kd (51:12) No, absolutely not. Because you have to watch the Hans Zimmer version. Cassidy (51:17) I have to. Kd (51:18) Yeah, that, well, if you're gonna watch it, that's what I care about. Cassidy (51:23) But I could watch the Kyle MacLachlan version. The Patrick Stewart version. Kd (51:29) No. Cassidy (51:30) It didn't make back what it spent, but it didn't do as bad as this one. Kd (51:35) Anyway, I know you will. Cassidy (51:35) Whatever, I'll watch it one day. Thank you. Also, that's different because that has source material to adapt. Like they were adapting the book, not necessarily the original movie, you know what I mean? This would be a big gamble of remaking a 2009 UK only release. Yeah, but I also think they've done a lot of... I mean you could say Blumhouse did it with Happy Death, no they couldn't, but that's not the same concept. But I'm just saying, horror time loops has been done. Kd (51:53) I Yeah, but just, I mean, the concept has legs. That's not the same. Remember when I gave that a five? I was fucking crazy. What was I thinking? Cassidy (52:14) You still hadn't seen that many movies, okay? We're gonna give you a break. Out of... Yeah. Maybe. Kd (52:18) Yeah, I need to go back and re-rate them all. I'll be very mean to a lot of things I was not mean to. Cassidy (52:25) I remember trying to be supportive and you were yelling at me a lot that episode. I don't know if you remember that. You said, you said, people love this movie. You're going to tell me I'm wrong. And I said, I didn't tell you people didn't love the movie. A five's crazy. That's what I said. Kd (52:32) I don't. Mwahaha! Five's crazy. Five's crazy. That movie's not a fucking five. Cassidy (52:43) I don't even think I said that at the time. I said I didn't give it a five. Kd (52:48) Yeah. It's a four at most. Cassidy (52:49) It's a good movie, it's fun romp. Yeah, I think I gave it like a 3, 3.5. I think a 3.5. Kd (52:57) Yeah. No way. I had recency bias. I need to wait. I need to wait a couple days. Let it really simmer. Cassidy (53:00) No, sorry. Yeah, well also again, like that was what 20 episodes in that was not that yeah, that was I could probably look it up actually. Happy Death Day that was - Happy Death Day was our 23rd episode. So Kd (53:12) Early. Yeah, it was pretty early. I think it was like my birthday episode, right? Or our birthday episode. Cassidy (53:26) You'd seen 22 other horror movies to compare it to. Granted, you didn't give other movies fives that are definitely better than that movie, so that's, we'll have to talk about that, but. Kd (53:38) Yeah, that well, I think I think I think I would increase my rating on some stuff too. Cassidy (53:44) That's fair, yeah. Kd (53:46) You know what I haven't been able to stop thinking about? Smile 2. I have not stopped thinking about Smile 2. Yeah. Cassidy (53:48) What? Okay. Interesting. It was a fun movie. Yeah. Kd (53:55) I think it's because I've been listening to the soundtrack. It was fun. It was fun. Anyway. Cassidy (53:59) It's a good soundtrack. Anyways, would you survive Triangle? Kd (54:07) No. I- no. She's already dead. So... No, I'm sorry. I don't. Do you? Cassidy (54:10) Yeah. I mean, if I'm putting myself in the situation of the movie, then I guess no, because I'm being punished in a Greek mythology type of way. But also, would I be punished in a Greek mythology type of way? I'm not, I don't have a kid and I wouldn't abuse one if I did, so I don't think I would get punished. Well, probably, but not for that. I don't know. But I feel like that's a cop-out to say, I'm not going to be in the situation at all. Kd (54:50) I think the situation that you're in is you're dead and you're in purgatory. Cassidy (54:53) Great, then no, I do not. Obviously, I do not survive. Yeah. Kd (55:01) I think I figure out the ferryman thing. At some point. Cassidy (55:04) I give up much quicker. And especially if we're saying I'm in this situation as me, the person I am right now, because I wouldn't be there for like killing my child, right? Or abusing my child. So I wouldn't have that to keep me going. Cause I do kind of understand the idea of like, she is trying to like save her kid, right? That's her mentality and I wouldn't have that. I would be like, I'm stuck in this time loop and I love giving up. I'm so good at it. So I would immediately just get in the cab and be like. Kd (55:39) Let's go. Cassidy (55:39) Take me away. Yeah. Kd (55:43) Yeah. Cassidy (55:44) Nice. Okay, do you... we do both die together. Kd (55:46) We both die together. Yay! Cassidy (55:52) Do you think we're holding hands? Kd (55:54) Hope so. Hahaha Cassidy (55:59) If I know us. Kd (56:00) Hahaha! Cassidy (56:03) Alright, well, you've already seen next week's movie. So we're not gonna do a prediction. Yeah, next week's movie is gonna be Heretic, which is in theaters now. Kd (56:08) Heretic. Cassidy (56:13) And do you want to tell us a little bit about your experience instead of predicting it? Okay, should I like not listen to you? Kd (56:18) Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm assuming most people haven't seen it yet, so I won't give away anything spoilery. But I did win tickets through I'm a AAA24 member and I won tickets to an advanced screening I saw a couple weeks ago now. and they they played it in smell-o-vision. And they gave us a little something on the way out. Cassidy (56:25) Yeah, that's true. Oh! Kd (56:44) Yeah. It was quite the experience, I'll tell you that much. Yes, I will tell you everything. I'll give you all the details because they only did it the one day and it was only the advanced screening day that they did it. Like I went into the theater, like my name was on the chair. It felt very official. It was so cool. Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (56:49) My God, are you gonna tell us next week what they gave you? I'm excited. Yeah, I'm very... Ooh, that's, yeah, I like that. I'm very excited to hear what that was like. And I'm excited to talk about Heretic in theaters now. Go see it so that you can listen to our episode next week. Kd (57:11) Yeah me too. Go see it. Yeah. Cassidy (57:17) All right, cool. Well, if you've listened this far, please like and subscribe. If you're our one Australian viewer, please let us know in the comments. That's it. That's all I have. We will see you next Tuesday. Kd (57:24) Haha Yeah, you next Tuesday. Okay, bye. Cassidy (57:33) Bye.