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👉 Never Let Go deleted scenes released with Halle Berry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6eN3ogmN2Y
👉 Matthew Lillard, Jim Henson’s Creature Shop confirmed for Five Nights at Freddy’s 2: https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3834402/matthew-lillard-confirms-his-return-in-five-nights-at-freddys-2/
👉 Variety’s Top 100 Horror Movies of all time: https://variety.com/lists/best-horror-movies-of-all-time/
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In this episode of the Killer Cuties podcast, hosts Cassidy and KD discuss the evolution of their podcast, share the latest horror movie news, and dive into a controversial ranking of the top 100 horror films by Variety. They also touch on Fortnite's Halloween event and its horror-themed collaborations before delving into a detailed analysis of the film Lake Mungo, exploring its themes, influences, and the impact it has had on the horror genre. In this conversation, the hosts delve into various themes surrounding the film 'Lake Mungo,' including cultural references, unique dining experiences, the historical significance of the real Lake Mungo, and fan theories regarding the characters. They explore the emotional depth of the film, discussing themes of grief, loss, and the director's legacy, while also reflecting on the film's ambiguous portrayal of the paranormal. In this conversation, Cassidy and KD delve into the intricacies of a mockumentary film, sharing fun facts about its production, personal experiences with similar genres, and their ratings of the film. They explore themes of grief and horror, discussing how these elements resonate with audiences. The conversation culminates in predictions for future films, showcasing their dynamic rapport and differing perspectives on cinema.
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Hello.
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Hi.
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Happy Tuesday!
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Happy Tuesday.
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It's us.
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The Killer Cuties Podcast.
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Yeah, I'm Cassidy.
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No, I'm...
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I'm...
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We knew that.
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I'm KD.
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like that.
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Well, hey, we gotta spice up the intro somehow, you know?
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Getting sick of us saying happy Tuesday every goddamn week.
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God We started as happy boos day.
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We don't even say that Cuz scary boo not booze
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Yeah, I think because it sounds like booze day where we're just getting absolutely sloshed on a Tuesday.
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That was also the concept.
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We were gonna drink.
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like, let's get drunk and talk about horror movies.
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And then we were like, we don't want to get drunk once a week with each other and talk about horror movies.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You can still go back and look at old episodes though, where I've got my mug of wine every time.
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Yeah, it's crazy.
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Well, anyway.
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We've come a long way since then.
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Yeah.
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Well, let's let's do some news and then we're here to talk about Lake Mungo.
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We are.
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Let's do it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I'll start.
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Freddie Prince Jr.
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has joined the I Know What You Did Last Summer sequel.
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Deadline reported it first.
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There were several months of negotiations to get him on board and he's finally officially joined.
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The movie is set to release July 18th of next year, so not that far away for them to still be signing on talent.
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And especially since Jennifer Love Hewitt is also supposedly still in negotiations to be in the movie.
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Hurry up!
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They're, you know, that's the most important thing.
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They just got to get them to do the scenes and then...
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Bing bang bop, you know?
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Really push it out fast.
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Yeah.
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What's her face is not going to be in it.
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Sarah Michelle Gellar?
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Well, yeah, she died, so.
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Yeah, but I mean they could have done like a CGI flashback or something.
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I don't know.
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I would have hated that.
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Yeah, that would've terrible.
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It would've been fanservice only.
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Yeah, I actually just got done reading the I Know What You Did Last Summer book.
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How was it?
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It was decent.
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It was like a fun little thriller.
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Yeah, I think it was like the twist was like kind of obvious.
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It's not similar to the movie at all.
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Like it's, yeah, no, like they do kill someone with their car, but like it's not a slasher.
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It's not the same person.
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It's not, like the backstory is not the same at all.
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Yeah, no one dies except for the person they hit with their car.
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Yeah.
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And they actually die.
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they do.
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They do actually die.
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Yeah, it's a fun little thriller.
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It's a quick read too.
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Okay, good to know.
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Pick up a copy.
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It's your nearest Amazon.
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Do it.
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Right now.
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No, go to the library.
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Don't go to Amazon.
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Jesus.
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Local bookstore or support your local libraries.
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Libraries are important.
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What if that was just my news?
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I read a book.
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No, I'm kidding.
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I'm kidding.
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My first piece of news is the September movie
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Never Let Go is now available at home on demand.
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And in celebration of the release, Lionsgate has provided us with an exclusive deleted scene from the film.
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So you can check that out.
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We'll link it in the description.
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Yeah, as reminder, the film is about a family that's been haunted by an evil spirit for years and their safety and surroundings come into question when one of the children
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questions if the evil is real.
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And in the deleted scene,
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Academy Award winning actress Halle Berry comes face to face with the nightmarish snake-headed tree monster.
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So, sounds pretty cool.
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I didn't watch it yet, but I got the link, so I'm gonna watch it.
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Because I did see the movie.
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Okay.
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So there you go, new deleted scene.
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Interesting.
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Somebody just posted a deleted scene of Kevin Bacon at the Psycho House.
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I don't know what movie that would be for.
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Maxxxine.
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I know what movie it's for.
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Well, there you go.
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Threw that one in for free.
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Yeah, look at that little extra piece.
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More casting news.
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Matthew Lillard confirmed his return to FNAF 2.
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We knew it was gonna happen.
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Yeah, didn't he like, already leak that he was signed on for like three movies or something?
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Yeah.
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it has been released and almost as interesting, actually more interesting because we already knew that, Jim Henson's Creature Shop is also coming back.
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Love that.
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They did a great job.
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Yeah, they always do.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Well, great.
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their museum in Atlanta.
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I will go the next time.
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Wow, okay.
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I believe you.
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I don't think I'm super excited for the next FNAF movie.
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It wasn't my favorite film, but I do love Matthew Lillard, so I will be tuning in.
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And Josh Hutcherson?
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Yeah, is he coming back?
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Sure, I do like Josh.
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I forgot if he died or not.
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I don't think he dies.
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not die.
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No, like no one died really.
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Yeah.
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So I'm assuming he'll come back.
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It just, wasn't the best movie ever.
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Let's be honest here.
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Well, it's about a Chuck E.
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Cheese, so...
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Yeah, but that could be interesting.
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Just...
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or fun.
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It wasn't bad.
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It wasn't bad.
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You're being too hard on it.
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gave it like 2.5's, kd.
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That's 50%.
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That's rotten.
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on that movie?
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Yes, we did.
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That's fucking crazy.
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I don't remember that at all.
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We absolutely did an episode on that.
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I could find out what episode it was.
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remember, I remembered watching the movie and like I bought it the day that it came out.
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I was home alone for some reason.
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I was on the couch watching it and it felt to me like I was just watching it just for fun to watch it.
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I didn't realize I watched it for the cast.
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you did.
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Five Nights at Freddy's, episode 45.
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You can go listen to our thoughts now.
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45 episodes ago.
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Yeah.
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Crazy.
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Yeah, remind me what I said.
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Whoever goes back and listens to that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I know we both agreed that it was like it was for the fans.
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It wasn't really for us.
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Yeah.
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Wasn't good.
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It was fun.
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Anyways.
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right.
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What's your next news?
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My next news is Variety has released their list of top 100 horror movies and it's been a bit controversial, which I always think is very fun.
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But they included both Human Centipede 2 and Hostel 2, which are choices, especially considering that they
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left out Saw, Martyrs, The Others, Fright Night, Hellraiser, The Mist, Invasion of the Body Snatchers - like they left out those movies in favor of Human Centipede 2.
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I need everybody to just take that in think about it for a second and then go comment on their post about how stupid that is.
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What could be interesting about - what was interesting about Human Centipede 1 was that it was a human centipede.
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What could possibly be interesting about Human Centipede 2?
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I'm pretty sure it's rage bait.
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Because Human Centipede 2 is like, disgusting.
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Like it's worse than the first.
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The first one's like not even, they don't show anything really.
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Like it's all just kind of like implied what's happening.
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The sequel is like, it shows everything.
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It's like, way worse.
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And everybody agrees it's like the most disgusting one out of the three.
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And it's not, more than that, it's not even a good movie.
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So this is Variety's top 100 horror movies of all time.
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and they included that in the top 100, but they didn't include Invasion of the Body Snatchers, featuring Donald Sutherland.
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It's a great film.
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I literally have been re-watching the Hunger Games movies to fall asleep and we're talking about all the Hunger Games people.
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Um, hit me with the top 10.
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I only have the top five written down.
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Number five is Rosemary's Baby.
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Number four, Jaws.
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Number three, Psycho.
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These are making sense.
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These are, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A lot of the movies on it make sense.
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A lot of people were concerned about like those two editions and then missing some of the movies.
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And then also the order in which they were put on.
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But anyways, number two is The Exorcist, which I knew it was gonna be controversial when I'd already seen Psycho and The Exorcist at three and two, because both of those are
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typically put at number one.
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Number one is The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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Okay, that's just fan service, because it's the 50th anniversary.
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it's kind of, yeah, it's a controversial pick.
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I don't know who wrote the list because I didn't look it up, sorry.
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Well, he's dead, so that would be pretty cool.
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But yeah, it's an interesting list.
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You can go look.
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You can go look at all of them.
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The top five, sure.
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I think...
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Personally, TCM at number one is kind of crazy to me, but it should be on the list for sure.
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Number one?
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For some people, sure.
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I don't know, I think at this point, Exorcist is kind of a safe pick for number one.
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A lot of people don't really disagree with that.
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But yeah, top five, not that crazy.
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The rest of it, maybe.
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See, my marketing brain is like, they put TCM at number one because it's trending right now.
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It's very trendy to be into TCM and yeah, because it's the 15th anniversary.
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Everybody's talking about it.
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So putting at the top of the list, people are gonna be like, yeah, that makes sense.
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Yeah, yeah, That's fair.
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Is it really?
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No, release date, October 1st, 1974.
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Oh, that was the Austin, Texas premiere.
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And then wide release was...
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Wow, we're filming this on October 11th.
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Happy 50th anniversary, TCM.
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Yeah.
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Number one in our hearts.
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No.
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That's not true.
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Up there, but no.
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I like it.
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Number one?
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Not for me.
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Personally.
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But you know what?
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If I released my list of top 100 horror movies, it would also be very controversial and people would not be happy.
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So who am I to judge you, Variety?
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No one.
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And I almost have a hundred movies to rank.
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That's so true!
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my god.
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me a few weeks and then I'll have a hundred.
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You can rank them.
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Well anyway, one more news for me and then we'll talk about Lake Mungo.
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Fortnite.
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You know.
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But yeah, that's the news.
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The game was supposed to launch their annual Fortnitemares event today, October 11th, the 50th anniversary of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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But it's been delayed several hours until tomorrow.
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Okay.
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Because devs say that they're putting finishing touches on the product which is fucking crazy to be putting finishing touches on something that's supposed to release like right
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now but anyway this year's crossovers are super fun it's Billy, from Saw yeah, and Leather face, of course.
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They're both skins and supposedly you can ride around on Billy's tricycle as an emote.
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You get to be, yeah, get to like be him.
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This is all still sort of rumored, sort of confirmed.
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We won't actually know until it launches later today.
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But also, supposedly, we'll get some Disney villains and Edward Scissorhands.
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Very fun.
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So cute.
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So if you're Fortnite fan and a horror fan.
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There you go.
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Cool cool cool.
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Fortnite.
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It's like the one game you haven't played.
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There are other games I haven't played.
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But yes, I have not played.
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I have not played Fortnite.
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It's fun.
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I'm not very good at shooters.
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It's not just a shooter.
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They have prop hunt, you know, but SpongeBob.
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SpongeBob, why?
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What?
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I don't know.
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It's super cute though.
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You get to go into like SpongeBob's house and Squidward's house and you get to be like a Krabby Patty or...
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It's super cute.
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Yeah, not a lot of people play it though, so it's hard to get people to...
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It's hard to get a lobby, but...
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and they have like...
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guess who?
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You know the board game?
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I, yeah, I've heard of it.
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Wow.
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Zombies.
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They have all sorts of stuff.
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Cars?
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You're a big fan of Cars.
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Yeah.
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I've heard of it.
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I don't remember really anything from the film Cars except for Kachow and I think that's really funny.
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A shame.
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That's okay.
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Anyway, Fortnite, it's for everyone.
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Love that.
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Go play Fortnite now.
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I don't know.
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Fortnite collab coming soon.
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Goodness.
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All right.
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Are you ready to talk about Lake Mungo?
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Yep.
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Are you?
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Yeah, you just didn't seem very excited about it.
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Great.
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Sounds like it.
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Okay, Lake Mungo.
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If you've never seen it and you don't care to, or you have seen it and it's been a while, here's what it's about.
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After 16-year-old Alice Palmer drowns in a local dam, her family experiences a series of strange, inexplicable events centered in and around their home.
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Unsettled, the Palmer seek help of a psychic,
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a parapsychologist, and a parapsychologist, the two different people, and they discover that Alice led a secret double life.
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At Lake Mungo, Alice's secret past emerges.
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That's from Letterboxd.
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It was written and directed by Joel Anderson.
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It stars Talia Zucker and David Pledger.
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It's got a 6.3 out of 10 on IMDb, a 95 % critic score, and a 62 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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I will clarify, there are only 22 critic ratings at this time.
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So it is a smaller sample size.
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So take that 95 with a grain of salt, I suppose.
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It had a budget of 1.7 million and it made $29 at the box office.
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It was screened at some festivals but it only got a wide release in Australia, so that might have contributed to the low box office.
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But it has since gained quite the cult following.
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I would just like to clarify that the psychic and the parapsychologist are in fact the same person.
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Yeah...
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are they?
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Great.
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Same guy.
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Yeah.
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That does make sense, because I only remember them talking with one guy.
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That was confusing wording, Letterboxd.
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I should have read that better.
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Might be.
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Parapsychologist would be a fun career.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, you talked about the budget and the earnings.
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A little bit of mixed.
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What am I trying to say?
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I don't know.
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Helpful, so helpful.
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A little bit, hold on, let me think.
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I didn't write this down, I'm going in blind.
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Oh my god, she's flying by the seat of her pants.
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Hahaha
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Conflicting information a little bit of conflicting information Because sometimes it's in Australian dollars sometimes it's in US dollars sometimes it's as high as like 30 I
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even saw it as low as just under $9 But one thing I did see quite often I was you know reading a bunch of folks reviews is, they mentioned how impressive it was that the film
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was able to do so much with so little.
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Which,
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one million dollars is not so little.
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To me.
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I think for a movie that is considered low budget.
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But like, we've talked about films that were wildly more successful with a teeny teeny tiny budget like Paranormal Activity, Blair Witch, Cube, Creep, Evil Dead, Halloween had a
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$350 budget and is the most successful horror franchise of all time.
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Yeah, but that was also 300 and some thousand dollars in the 70s.
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I bet that's still less than a million dollars now.
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Probably.
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But one million is three, 10, that's like 20 times some of those budgets.
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I'm sorry that the budget wasn't low enough for you.
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It's not that the budget wasn't low enough, it's that they're praising them for doing so much with so little.
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But like, it just didn't stick out to me as a movie that really represented that to me.
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That was all.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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That was all.
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We can wrap it up now.
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Episode over.
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Sorry guys, she hated it.
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We gotta end here.
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Two directors that we've talked about before have spoken on this film.
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One, Jordan Peele.
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He stated in a podcast with Keke Palmer that Lake Mungo is one of the movies that scared him the most.
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Jordan Peele approved.
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Also, Mike Flanagan of the Flanaverse.
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Flannie.
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Yeah, he said about it, "this is one of the best and most beautiful ghost stories I've ever seen and a true inspiration on every level.
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I can absolutely feel the influence of this movie on a lot of my own work."
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Calm down.
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I think that's fair because in one of the scenes at the very end when Ray the psychic is speaking to the mom and then in the flashbacks also speaking to Alice and it's like
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cutting back and forth and Alice is talking about how her mom can't see her and her mom is picturing going into Alice's room and saying she's not there anymore.
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I was thinking like before I even
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saw that Mike Flanagan had said that, I was thinking, this actually really reminds me of Hill House.
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When Nell is at the funeral home and no one can see her.
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So I was like, my God, you sneaky little devil, this did influence your work a little bit.
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I can see it.
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Well, the director of this film said that he was inspired by Twin Peaks?
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Mm-hmm.
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Which I haven't seen, so it doesn't mean anything to me, but maybe you can add some color.
00:22:16
I have never seen Twin Peaks either.
00:22:18
Yeah, sorry.
00:22:20
is that people dream about how they're gonna die.
00:22:23
That sounds right.
00:22:25
Mm-hmm.
00:22:26
I don't know, that's always been on my list because I'm sure it's a show that I would like.
00:22:31
I think they made a movie too.
00:22:32
Yeah, I just haven't got around to it.
00:22:36
It's kind of like The X-Files.
00:22:37
Like know I'm gonna like it, I just haven't taken the time to watch it yet.
00:22:41
X-Files is very good.
00:22:43
I've tried to start the first episode like three different times and I can't get past the way David Duchovny says, Oregon.
00:22:50
And so I just like, I can't, I always just keep pausing like, what do mean Oregon?
00:22:58
Why does he say it like that?
00:23:00
I don't know.
00:23:02
It's clickbait and it works.
00:23:05
I don't think it's clickbait because that was made in 90s, right?
00:23:11
They didn't have clickbait back then.
00:23:15
Well, you know, rage bait.
00:23:17
It's just bait.
00:23:19
what it is.
00:23:19
I think David Duchovny just thinks it's pronounced that way.
00:23:24
Oh, David.
00:23:25
Yeah, maybe it is.
00:23:27
Maybe I've been saying Oregon wrong my whole life.
00:23:30
People from Oregon, please let us know how to say it.
00:23:34
I was just in Oregon.
00:23:37
Well, no, I was in Washington, but it's the same concept.
00:23:41
So you weren't.
00:23:42
You're a liar.
00:23:43
Yeah, I was in Washington.
00:23:44
It's the same, they're identical.
00:23:46
They're not the same, they're two different states.
00:23:50
How dare you?
00:23:53
Even they don't know what's the difference between.
00:23:55
They all, they all live in one and work in the other.
00:23:58
So they're basically the same place.
00:24:01
by Oregonites who are furious that you called them Washingtonians.
00:24:11
Yeah.
00:24:12
Okay, well.
00:24:15
Oregonites.
00:24:17
Oregonites, please say it correctly.
00:24:19
Oregon.
00:24:22
Anyways, I promise I will watch both of those shows eventually, but.
00:24:27
I will.
00:24:28
Twin Peaks in my neck of the woods is a breastaurant.
00:24:35
Uh-huh.
00:24:37
Interesting.
00:24:39
Two.
00:24:41
You get it?
00:24:43
Are you referring to breasts?
00:24:45
Yes, I'm not.
00:24:48
The restaurant is.
00:24:50
You're saying there's like a Hooter-esque restaurant called Twin Peaks.
00:24:56
Interesting.
00:24:58
Did you go?
00:24:59
Did they have good wings?
00:25:00
I've heard that about Hooters.
00:25:04
Did you?
00:25:04
though.
00:25:05
Yeah, I was like a regular at the Hooters across the street from the Honda Center in Anaheim.
00:25:12
I've only been to one Hooters in my whole life.
00:25:15
It was in Vegas.
00:25:18
Because I was with friends and they were like, let's go to Hooters.
00:25:21
I think it was like the restaurant that was in the hotel we were staying at.
00:25:25
So we were like, it's like close.
00:25:29
They've got good food.
00:25:31
I was just, I tried to be so nice to the waitress, I tipped her extra, I'm like, I'm so sorry.
00:25:38
They said, what did they say?
00:25:40
I think I saw like a tweet the other day that was like, Hooters really said, what if sexual harassment was a restaurant?
00:25:46
And that's like the concept of it.
00:25:48
Yeah, we have a we have an Irish themed one, too.
00:25:52
It's called Tilted Kilt.
00:25:54
That's Hooters-esque?
00:25:56
Yeah, it's a breastaurant.
00:25:57
A breastaurant, yeah.
00:26:00
Great.
00:26:02
Arizona's got it going on.
00:26:05
I love that you know about all the breastaurants where you live.
00:26:09
Well, it's important when you have a child to know which restaurants are because you don't know that just looking at them.
00:26:16
Yeah, that's true.
00:26:19
could just have...
00:26:22
Irish food.
00:26:22
Irish beer and stuff.
00:26:25
But...
00:26:26
yeah.
00:26:29
Anyway.
00:26:31
Lake Mungo's a real place.
00:26:34
Right back on track.
00:26:35
Yes it is!
00:26:36
you know that?
00:26:38
It's in New South Wales, Australia.
00:26:41
And they actually shot there.
00:26:43
It is not a lake like the traditional, like it's not where Alice drowned.
00:26:48
It's a dry lake.
00:26:50
Well, it's a dry lake in the film too.
00:26:51
She drowns at the dam.
00:26:53
Yeah.
00:26:55
Right.
00:26:57
A little bit, a little bit strange to have her drown at the place that they don't name the movie after, but okay, whatever.
00:27:07
Well, because I think Lake Mungo is where they discover like what happened, you know what I mean?
00:27:13
where the trip was.
00:27:15
Yeah, it's where her phone was buried.
00:27:17
It's where they see that she saw her dead self.
00:27:20
Well anyway, more about Lake Mungo the real place.
00:27:23
Okay.
00:27:25
In the 60s, they made a pretty significant archaeological discovery.
00:27:30
They found a 40 year old woman, like her bones.
00:27:37
And she's one of the earliest anatomically modern human remains.
00:27:42
So I think that would make her technically a homo sapien.
00:27:46
So one of the oldest homo sapien skeletons ever discovered.
00:27:49
And then five years later, they found her husband.
00:27:53
I'm assuming - that's an assumption.
00:27:55
But they found a man in the same spot.
00:27:58
And you just decided they were married?
00:28:02
Okay.
00:28:03
They lived long happy lives and they died together in each other's arms in Lake Mungo, the dry lake.
00:28:08
in each other's arms, I think they would have found them at the same time, don't you think?
00:28:13
Maybe.
00:28:15
Probably.
00:28:16
Haha.
00:28:18
But they were in a lake, probably washed them apart.
00:28:23
And now it's dry.
00:28:24
Great, the married Mungos.
00:28:28
Mungo Lady and Mungo Man.
00:28:30
Mungo La- yeah.
00:28:32
Okay great!
00:28:33
Mungo Man.
00:28:35
I really like that word.
00:28:36
That's why I picked this movie.
00:28:40
Yeah.
00:28:42
From a lineup of three.
00:28:44
Yeah.
00:28:45
Mungo.
00:28:47
I can't even remember what the options were.
00:28:51
Me neither.
00:28:53
There's nothing with a significant amount of consonants either.
00:28:55
That's my other go-to.
00:28:57
Yeah, she liked she liked Mungo.
00:29:01
So she got it.
00:29:03
There's a Letterboxd list by a user named minime214 that's called "Lake Mungo in its own list as to not scare the other films away".
00:29:18
And it's just Lake Mungo in the list.
00:29:22
And I thought that was really funny.
00:29:24
That's cute.
00:29:27
Yeah, people really got scared from this movie.
00:29:29
Yeah, it freaks people out.
00:29:31
Okay.
00:29:37
I think we can foreshadow that it did not scare you.
00:29:41
No, didn't.
00:29:43
I think that this probably scared people the same way that like Paranormal Activity scared people though.
00:29:48
Or Blair Witch.
00:29:51
That's what I had to compare it to.
00:29:52
that found footage where it's a lot of suspense and you're just staring at something waiting for something to happen.
00:29:59
And it barely does.
00:30:02
Yeah, but it's the tension that they're trying to build instead of, you all out scares.
00:30:08
Yeah, it is.
00:30:13
I will say, I think this had the most convincing acting, the most believable acting in terms of the found footage films that we've seen.
00:30:25
A lot of the time, you get kind of taken out of the experience because the acting is so over the top or just like not believable.
00:30:33
But this genuinely felt like a family sitting down with a reporter talking about
00:30:40
Alice.
00:30:40
Their dead kid.
00:30:42
Yup.
00:30:44
Yeah, I didn't find myself questioning the talent at all through the film, which was...
00:30:50
Yeah.
00:30:51
Yeah.
00:30:54
Yeah, Martin Sharpe, who played Matthew, the brother, he said that they had time blocks leading up to the film that were just designated for the family cast members to like, hang
00:31:05
out and get to know each other.
00:31:07
So that it felt like they were a family when filming started.
00:31:12
Which I kind of think is funny because
00:31:14
like a main theme of the movie is that they don't know each other very well.
00:31:19
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:21
But they did kind of feel like a family that didn't know each other very well, so I think it worked.
00:31:25
But I just read that and was like, aren't they not supposed to really know each other though?
00:31:31
Yeah, well as far as family goes,
00:31:33
meeting each other on a set and spending some time together would not make you like actually feel like a family.
00:31:38
It would make you feel like a family that doesn't know each other.
00:31:40
So it worked out.
00:31:43
I agree.
00:31:44
Nailed it.
00:31:46
Speaking of Matthew.
00:31:47
Mm-hmm.
00:31:49
Should we take this time to talk about the fan theory?
00:31:53
Which one?
00:31:55
What do you mean?
00:31:55
There's more than one?
00:31:58
Yeah, I know about two, but I'm assuming you're going to talk about the one that involves Matthew.
00:32:05
Yeah, go for it.
00:32:06
idea?
00:32:08
I like this theory that Matthew killed Alice.
00:32:15
That is a theory.
00:32:16
Yeah, in hindsight, it's a respectable one.
00:32:19
A lot of fan theories are like, you're reaching.
00:32:26
But I think that there was some ambiguity left.
00:32:30
And anyway...
00:32:32
A lot of what I'm taking from is from a comment by angstypanky on Reddit.
00:32:39
But there was also some comments that the users were deleted.
00:32:41
But anyway, first kind of indication that something was kind of a miss between them is her reaction to him filming her.
00:32:53
That was a little off.
00:32:55
So the theory is kind of like maybe, you know, he was abusing her in some way or
00:33:01
there was some sort of like voyeurism aspect.
00:33:06
That part of it, I'm gonna be honest, like that part did feel like a stretch.
00:33:09
That felt like a very normal, like your sibling comes into your room and you don't want them to be there.
00:33:15
Yeah, I guess.
00:33:18
the theory itself, but like that part I was like, I don't know, to me watching it, it felt very much just like a, get out of my room, stop filming me, like what are you doing,
00:33:25
you're a weirdo.
00:33:26
yeah, that's fair.
00:33:26
That's fair.
00:33:27
I feel like people were trying to really dig deep with the abuse stuff and that was like, well maybe.
00:33:33
Calm down.
00:33:35
I think the more compelling argument with the filming and his pension for cinema or whatever is that he had found the tape and then after watching it, he got this obsession
00:33:54
with her and had some sort of guilt associated that ultimately led him to kill her.
00:34:00
it.
00:34:00
The motive aspect.
00:34:02
Okay.
00:34:04
That makes sense.
00:34:04
into his like whole.
00:34:05
Because if he found a movie that was in her room that he hadn't watched, like he would obviously like his thing is film.
00:34:13
So he probably would have popped it in and watched it.
00:34:15
Yeah.
00:34:17
What else?
00:34:18
There's a lot more to this.
00:34:19
I didn't do a very good job organizing my thoughts, sorry.
00:34:24
The whole thing about like the mom not really knowing her kids would make it feasible that she would not know that he was capable of murdering his own sister.
00:34:38
The bruises, the unexplained bruises, they really glossed over that, where they just assumed it was paranormal or they like kind of associated it with the paranormal
00:34:49
activities that were happening.
00:34:51
But that very will could have been from, like, Alice trying to defend herself while Matthew was drowning her.
00:34:55
So that part though, that couldn't have happened because that was months later that that happened.
00:35:03
So he wouldn't have still had bruises from it.
00:35:06
Yeah.
00:35:07
That was a flaw in the theory that I found.
00:35:09
That was like the bruises had to be either him inflicting it to go along with his like paranormal thing or possibly paranormal.
00:35:19
Well, yeah, so that could be the other thing is maybe the bruises were she's trying to pin it on him.
00:35:26
Damn, that was my favorite part of the theory though was that he was drowning her.
00:35:30
Yeah, that one timeline doesn't work out for that, because that was much later that it happened.
00:35:38
Well, the only other piece of that particular theory is that it is pretty common for killers to go back and revisit the scene of the crime.
00:35:48
And he does go back with her jacket.
00:35:51
See that part too though, I felt like that was him trying to create more evidence of like her...
00:35:55
still being around.
00:35:57
To like quell the mom, to like.
00:36:00
Which is still weird to me.
00:36:04
more to go along with that.
00:36:05
He was alone with Alice at the dam when she drowned.
00:36:10
And he was also friends with the psychic that she spoke to.
00:36:13
So there are pieces of it that I think are compelling.
00:36:19
And nobody realized that she was gone until he said, where's Alice?
00:36:22
Yeah.
00:36:24
It's like whoever smelled it dealt it.
00:36:28
Yep.
00:36:29
Yep.
00:36:30
It's definitely a theory.
00:36:31
I don't know if it's my favorite theory.
00:36:34
Which one's your favorite?
00:36:36
Well, I don't know if any theories are necessarily my favorite.
00:36:40
I just meant that one in particular.
00:36:42
I don't know.
00:36:43
I get it.
00:36:45
There's just a lot of little pieces that kind of add up.
00:36:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:48
I definitely can see how that could be a valid theory.
00:36:53
And then he gets what he wants at the end.
00:36:55
He gets a family that's more connected and he's the center of attention.
00:37:02
Yeah, but I also think like his parents were kind of, well, I don't know.
00:37:06
Anyways, the other theory was that it's basically like one big allegory for suicide.
00:37:13
Which I think does make sense to me, like the cold and distant relationship between Alice and her mom and the fact that Alice was like so sure that she was going to die, her being
00:37:26
confronted with her own corpse at the end.
00:37:28
Like I think that there are kind of...
00:37:30
allegorical things that could have pointed to that.
00:37:34
Hmm.
00:37:35
I don't know.
00:37:36
I think I just think of it more as like another movie that's kind of exploring grief, right?
00:37:45
Yeah.
00:37:45
Well, and I think more than that, like the fear of
00:37:50
like the fear of losing someone unexpectedly.
00:37:54
Yeah.
00:37:55
Yeah, this movie's kind of sad.
00:37:58
I know.
00:38:00
I mean, I didn't like cry or anything, but...
00:38:02
No, but like when you think about it, it's like Alice, she wasn't at peace and she chose to stay in the house and her family never really like knew who she was.
00:38:14
And I think them putting her to rest was more for their appeasement rather than hers.
00:38:18
And then like, in the end, seeing her in the photographs, it's like they've decided and moved on, whereas like she's still there.
00:38:26
And it's kind of like, ugh.
00:38:29
It's sad.
00:38:30
They never really saw her.
00:38:32
Yeah, I mean, I think it's an important lesson in the paranormal that both sides need to find peace.
00:38:41
It's not just about you.
00:38:43
It's not just about them.
00:38:45
Yeah, for all you people with ghosts.
00:38:49
Listen closely.
00:38:51
I'm telling you, this movie's telling you.
00:38:54
This movie is telling you.
00:38:59
But yeah, I do like this movie.
00:39:00
I like rewatching the movie because then you can see everything that you find out in the end and then you go back and watch it you're like, yeah, there she is just in these photos
00:39:12
that you're not noticing the first time you watch it or like the neighbor, like the first time it shows the footage, you can see the neighbor coming into the house.
00:39:20
And yeah, I think that they did that very well,
00:39:25
of diverting your attention to other places and having things happen that you like...
00:39:31
The first time I watched this I did not.
00:39:33
My mind was blown.
00:39:34
I was like, my god!
00:39:37
She was there the whole time!
00:39:39
Yeah, that definitely got me.
00:39:41
Yeah.
00:39:43
I like the kind of like ambiguity of the paranormal too.
00:39:46
It was not really hammered home what...
00:39:49
like it wasn't like...
00:39:50
they didn't tell you, she's a ghost and she's like stuck in it in purgatory kind of thing.
00:39:55
Like they didn't really hammer that home.
00:39:57
They left it...
00:39:58
ambiguous.
00:39:59
They left it open to interpretation, which I think really served kind of the film.
00:40:03
Yeah, I feel like.
00:40:05
I think the only unambiguous moment is like her seeing herself dead.
00:40:09
Yeah.
00:40:10
In the phone footage, like that's pretty clearly like, you know, in your face, like that's like the scare moment, I think of the whole movie.
00:40:20
Yeah, I mean, yeah, everything else is kind of just tension, slow burn, and then that's that one moment of like actual true horror.
00:40:31
But I don't know, I almost think I would have liked the movie better without it.
00:40:34
But again, I'm more of, I like a more grounded, less supernaturally type of feel.
00:40:40
But I also think that the reveal of her actually being a ghost in the background of all these photos would have hit a little bit harder if you didn't know that there was
00:40:49
supernatural stuff going on.
00:40:51
If it had just been left at, the brother was faking it and you just think like, my God, it wasn't even that the whole time.
00:40:58
And then all of a sudden you just see her in the background.
00:41:01
I feel like that would have been even more creepy.
00:41:04
Yeah, that was one of the things that I...
00:41:06
what I was planning to talk about talking about later but just like the going back and forth between it's real it's not real it's really gave me whiplash.
00:41:18
I'm sorry.
00:41:19
That's okay.
00:41:21
I feel like that only happened like twice.
00:41:24
This is...
00:41:26
weird that it happened twice.
00:41:30
Once.
00:41:32
Okay, yeah, yeah.
00:41:33
One reveal is...
00:41:34
that's enough.
00:41:36
Yeah, like don't make us think that it's real first and then make us think it's fake and then make us think it's real again.
00:41:42
Like hit us with it's fake and then we find out it's real.
00:41:46
You know what mean?
00:41:47
Or it's we think it's real and then hit us with it's fake.
00:41:53
Like it's just like, you know.
00:41:54
I feel like that's almost like expected at this point where I liked this movie that it was like,
00:41:59
it was just him faking it the whole time.
00:42:00
And then all of sudden it was not.
00:42:02
And I was like, wait, shit.
00:42:05
I mean, I guess because the audience finds that out and not the family.
00:42:10
It's-
00:42:11
the video.
00:42:13
So, I think they still know that something supernatural is happening.
00:42:16
But that's why I would have liked it better without that.
00:42:19
If it would have just shown her like seeing something and then it ending or something like that, I would have liked that better.
00:42:26
Where it was like clear to her but not to the family or to the audience that she had like seen herself.
00:42:32
Like she saw something on her phone, but we don't know what it is.
00:42:36
Yeah.
00:42:37
Like we see her face seeing herself, but we don't see what she sees.
00:42:43
That's what I'm saying.
00:42:45
Because then the twist would have been even better of like, she's there in the background.
00:42:50
Yeah.
00:42:51
I tend to agree.
00:42:54
Yeah, the director, Joel Anderson, kind of kept like a really low profile after the movie came out.
00:43:02
He didn't do anything really for forever.
00:43:07
He didn't give interviews.
00:43:09
I don't think he's done one since 2009, which was a year after this movie came out.
00:43:13
He has no known social media pages.
00:43:16
And that's kind of like added to the mystery of the movie a little bit, I think.
00:43:23
And yeah, he eventually returned though in 2023.
00:43:28
He was an executive producer and script editor on Late Night with the Devil.
00:43:34
That's the first thing he's done.
00:43:38
We can acknowledge the fact that Late Night with the Devil is a film that was made.
00:43:44
Just don't pay to watch it.
00:43:46
Haha.
00:43:48
It sounds bad because it's an indie movie and I want to support indie movies always.
00:43:52
But I also just, I just, the amount of AI that should be in a film is zero.
00:43:58
Well, no, the amount of generative AI in a film should be zero.
00:44:01
Like, let's not do that.
00:44:03
Anyways, but he worked on that movie, so...
00:44:08
And not on the AI, so we do support that.
00:44:11
okay, okay.
00:44:11
Are you sure?
00:44:13
Well, I guess he was an executive producer, so maybe he did have something...
00:44:17
...to say.
00:44:19
Damn, damn Joel, you really got us.
00:44:28
RIP.
00:44:30
Any other fun facts?
00:44:31
Not a whole lot about this movie.
00:44:35
Yeah, I got more.
00:44:37
Well, send some to me so I can talk about it.
00:44:43
The whole episode is me just DMing you fun facts.
00:44:47
We just hear like ping and then kd's like, I got another one.
00:44:52
There's not a lot, I watched some interviews, I got everything you got so far.
00:44:55
Yeah, yeah, there wasn't a whole lot.
00:44:59
But a couple other things about just filming.
00:45:04
Joel Anderson decided to go the route of fake documentary because it was going to be cheaper to shoot and it was going to be easier to acquire that amount of funding.
00:45:11
So that's a fun fact.
00:45:13
And then also the script just had an outline of the story and no real dialogue.
00:45:19
So the actors had to improvise a lot of their scenes.
00:45:23
And yeah, he also, I think Anderson himself served as the off-screen interviewer for the film's interview scenes, but he's not credited, so.
00:45:32
Little fun facts.
00:45:33
I think that's why the...
00:45:36
acting was so compelling for me is because they didn't have a script.
00:45:41
It felt so organic.
00:45:42
It's really hard to get a script and not be reading it, you know, especially for generally inexperienced actors and actresses that are being hired for
00:45:54
found footage.
00:45:55
Yeah, in independent films found footage.
00:46:00
So yeah, that that makes a lot of sense.
00:46:03
And the old couple, I forget who they are in the movie, but there's an older couple.
00:46:11
They were very clearly like, I even wondered like, I wonder if they just gave them like the general idea of what they need to say.
00:46:17
And they said it.
00:46:19
Because that's what it felt like, which works for this movie.
00:46:22
Yeah, I think in the context of what was happening, it worked.
00:46:26
Mm-hmm.
00:46:27
Nice.
00:46:28
Do you have any other fun facts?
00:46:31
No, I got really sucked into the Reddit.
00:46:34
Yeah, you were in deep on the fan theories, huh?
00:46:38
Yeah, I really really wanted Matthew to be the killer but then here you go and then you squish all of my theories and...
00:46:45
can still believe that!
00:46:48
Okay.
00:46:50
See?
00:46:51
I didn't ruin anything.
00:46:55
All right, well, let's rate it, I guess.
00:46:57
Okay.
00:46:59
How scary did you think it was?
00:47:01
I gave it a one.
00:47:03
I think by the time I watched this movie, I already kind of knew the whole found footage schtick, so it didn't...
00:47:10
I was like, all right, we're gonna watch a lot of suspenseful scenes and not a lot's gonna actually happen.
00:47:15
So it didn't really scare me that much.
00:47:18
What about you?
00:47:21
I'll answer in a second.
00:47:22
I just, I don't mean to make this all about me, but I remember my first experience with a mockumentary.
00:47:28
Uh-huh.
00:47:30
I was at my grandma's house and I was just flipping through channels and Animal Planet was an option and so I landed there and I joined in the middle of a mockumentary.
00:47:41
I didn't realize it was a mockumentary at the time about the recent discovery of dragons and how they're like they have like this mechanism in the back of their throat that like
00:47:53
starts fire and there were science like PhDs and scientists being interviewed and
00:48:00
You thought the dragons were real?
00:48:02
I was so, yeah.
00:48:06
How old were you?
00:48:08
Young.
00:48:08
I was young.
00:48:10
I was young.
00:48:10
Like, not a teenager.
00:48:14
Yeah.
00:48:14
Yeah.
00:48:15
I was pretty young.
00:48:16
but like 12.
00:48:17
12.
00:48:17
Like 12 is probably a safe.
00:48:20
Yeah.
00:48:20
Yeah.
00:48:21
I would say like maybe 10, 10 to 12, somewhere in there.
00:48:23
Because I still remember.
00:48:24
It's a very vivid dream.
00:48:25
I went and I like grabbed my grandpa by the hand and brought him in sat down in the sunroom with him.
00:48:29
And I was like, you're not going to believe this.
00:48:31
They found dragons.
00:48:34
Like I was so sucked in.
00:48:36
How did he break the news to you?
00:48:38
Was he like, you're a fucking moron?
00:48:40
no, he was...
00:48:41
and I think about this all the time.
00:48:43
It's...
00:48:43
he was very like almost elegant about it.
00:48:47
He was like, well, what makes you think that it's real?
00:48:50
And I was like, well, like they have...
00:48:52
like this guy has a PhD.
00:48:53
Like he obviously knows what he's talking about.
00:48:54
And he's like, well, well, how do we know that he's a PhD?
00:48:57
Like have you...
00:48:59
like do you know that he's a PhD?
00:49:00
And I was like, well, it says...
00:49:02
and he's like, well, TV says a lot of things a lot of times.
00:49:05
And so he never told...
00:49:06
he never not one time
00:49:08
made me feel stupid.
00:49:09
Made me feel, but he really made me understand.
00:49:12
Like, yes.
00:49:13
Especially on the TV.
00:49:15
Yeah.
00:49:18
Yeah.
00:49:20
It's a fond memory.
00:49:22
Very fun.
00:49:23
I love that because it's a cute little learning experience that he was so kind about it.
00:49:29
And also I think that that's a good learning experience for everybody because to this day I get grown adults who are like, no, this movie's real.
00:49:37
It's based on a real story.
00:49:38
And I'm like, no, it's so movies lie to you the entire time.
00:49:43
When they say that, they're still lying to you.
00:49:47
99 % of the time.
00:49:50
Yeah, I definitely don't claim to have superior media literacy, but I do credit what media literacy I do have to that experience with the dragons.
00:50:01
Yeah.
00:50:03
And a couple of years later, they did a mermaid one, which I was able to go into with the right state of mind.
00:50:10
But anyway, I gave it a 1.5.
00:50:19
Yeah, it wasn't that scary.
00:50:21
There was a little bit of a tone about it.
00:50:23
I think had they nailed the tone a little bit, like too much more to my expectations or like had they leaned into like the scarier moment at the end, then maybe it would have
00:50:33
taken away from the rest of the movie.
00:50:34
I don't know.
00:50:35
But I had to give it a little bit of credit.
00:50:36
So I give it a one.
00:50:38
Fair enough.
00:50:38
How sexy did you think it was?
00:50:42
A one.
00:50:42
Yeah.
00:50:44
Despite the threesome, it's not sexy and it wasn't trying to be sexy.
00:50:51
Reality is just not sexy.
00:50:54
Yeah.
00:50:55
So, what'd you give it?
00:50:57
I gave it a one as well.
00:50:59
Nothing really sexy.
00:51:02
Maybe the accents, but not enough.
00:51:08
Like a family grief film is not really getting me going, you know what I mean?
00:51:14
Yeah.
00:51:17
Paranormal might be able to do it.
00:51:20
But no, not in this film.
00:51:23
No, not here, not now.
00:51:26
Not ever.
00:51:27
No.
00:51:29
well how fucked up did you think it was?
00:51:32
I gave it a one.
00:51:33
I think it was like a little bit more haunting than than fucked up, you know?
00:51:38
Nothing stuck out.
00:51:41
What about you?
00:51:43
So I gave it credit for something it didn't do, which maybe I shouldn't have done.
00:51:48
But I just imagine, like, had I stumbled upon this movie, like, in the middle of the night, like, come to my hotel room, like I'm on a trip and I come home to my hotel room
00:51:57
and I'm just flipping through channels and then I come up on this documentary and it shows me the dead body that they got out of the lake, that would have been really fucked up.
00:52:08
That would have really damaged me.
00:52:13
So I give it a 1.5.
00:52:14
I like that actually.
00:52:15
You're giving the mockumentary, the film within a film, credit for something.
00:52:21
I think that's pretty cool.
00:52:24
Yeah, I like that a lot.
00:52:27
Alright, overall, I know you like the word Mungo, but what did you feel about the actual movie Lake Mungo?
00:52:35
Mungo the word?
00:52:37
Five out of five.
00:52:38
Yeah.
00:52:39
But I'm gonna be really honest with you.
00:52:41
This movie, yeah, it went in one ear and out the other.
00:52:48
We watched this movie, like what, like a week and a half ago?
00:52:52
And I was gonna rewatch it, but it was just like, why?
00:52:56
I think it's a really great concept.
00:53:00
This is the first mockumentary that I mean, obviously it's sort of found footage, but it's more the documentary aspect that's interesting and new for us.
00:53:07
And I love that concept.
00:53:09
Obviously it was trying to recreate kind of the feeling that people got from watching Blair Witch.
00:53:17
I just don't think that it really worked despite the really great acting.
00:53:22
I think the acting is definitely what kind of like saved it.
00:53:26
I mentioned the kind of like...
00:53:28
back and forth, which I guess you didn't bother you as much, but the back and forth between is, the images real?
00:53:34
Are they edited?
00:53:34
Are they real?
00:53:35
Like that kind of, that was supposed to be kind of like the big tee up and the twist, but it just didn't land for me.
00:53:42
And then I thought the threesome thing was a little like disjointed and like almost unnecessary.
00:53:50
Like we already knew and felt that the parents didn't know their kid.
00:53:55
And I just didn't know that threesome was necessary.
00:53:59
I just think that there was like a very specific set of circumstances that I would have had to have watched this film to enjoy it fully.
00:54:07
And I don't think that's anybody's fault or anything.
00:54:09
I'm not like blaming you or anything.
00:54:12
I just didn't get to experience that way.
00:54:14
So anyway, for all of that, I gave it a 2.5.
00:54:20
Ouch.
00:54:22
That's rough.
00:54:23
know that's probably controversial, given all the reviews that I was reading about it.
00:54:27
People are gonna hate me.
00:54:29
But it's my truth!
00:54:31
The acting was good, but that's...
00:54:34
I don't know.
00:54:35
It didn't stick with me, you know?
00:54:37
Like that one scene that was supposed to stick with me was like, okay.
00:54:42
You know?
00:54:43
It wasn't necessary.
00:54:44
I don't know.
00:54:46
Two and a half.
00:54:47
Which isn't terrible.
00:54:49
It's at 50%.
00:54:50
It's not bad.
00:54:50
It's not good.
00:54:51
God, okay.
00:54:52
It's not good.
00:54:55
Yeah.
00:54:55
All right.
00:54:56
What did you give it?
00:54:59
This is rough.
00:55:01
I give it a four out of five.
00:55:03
I love this movie.
00:55:06
I think critically, it is probably a 3 to a 3.5, but I gave it a four.
00:55:14
I love this movie.
00:55:15
I think it's such an underrated gem, like not enough people have seen it or talk about it.
00:55:21
It's just, it's such an incredible like slow burn ghost story and it explores grief.
00:55:27
I fucking love a horror movie that explores grief.
00:55:30
I love it so much.
00:55:31
And it does like remind me a lot of Mike Flanagan's work.
00:55:34
And I think that's why, I don't know, I like his work.
00:55:38
I like this, I get it.
00:55:41
And I like it.
00:55:43
Good.
00:55:45
I mean, to be to be fair, anybody that asked me, I during COVID, was a real fucking slut for documentaries.
00:55:51
I watched so many.
00:55:52
I could give you, I can name off 30 documentaries for you to watch right now.
00:55:55
I'm going to add this to my list of documentaries I recommend to people because I want them to go into it thinking it's a documentary.
00:56:01
I think they'll enjoy it a lot more as opposed to thinking it's a horror movie.
00:56:05
You know what mean?
00:56:07
Sure.
00:56:10
So like, to be clear, I'll still recommend it.
00:56:14
I just hated it.
00:56:16
I just think you have to go into it under a special set of circumstances.
00:56:21
Yeah.
00:56:22
Would you believe that it's an actual documentary?
00:56:25
Couldn't hurt.
00:56:26
If someone said, watch this documentary, and I watched Lake Mungo, I would never take a recommendation from them again and also probably call them stupid.
00:56:40
You don't think you don't think just like casually to your friends like yeah watch this documentary.
00:56:44
This is not a documentary.
00:56:48
I think we know some people that would.
00:56:51
At least until the end be like, what the fuck?
00:56:55
Fair.
00:56:57
But I think at the end they'd be like, kd, you know that's not a documentary, right?
00:57:02
yeah.
00:57:04
I think they know that I know it's not a documentary and that I was recommending it to be cheeky.
00:57:10
Okay.
00:57:11
Do it, let me know how it works.
00:57:14
Okay, great.
00:57:16
Okay, I'm doing it.
00:57:17
I'll do it right now.
00:57:19
Well, I'll do it later, but I will do it.
00:57:22
I'll do it later.
00:57:24
That's our biggest disparity, I think.
00:57:26
Except The Menu.
00:57:28
I can't remember what you rated The Menu.
00:57:31
Probably 2.5 or 2.
00:57:33
Yeah, somewhere around there.
00:57:35
And I also think I gave it a four, so...
00:57:39
It's growing on me.
00:57:40
I haven't watched it again.
00:57:41
And then I see some about it on TikTok and I'm like, yeah, maybe that was kind of funny.
00:57:46
Yeah, The Menu is really funny.
00:57:50
I don't know how you missed that.
00:57:52
Media literacy.
00:57:55
well, we're getting there.
00:57:57
me through it.
00:58:00
One day.
00:58:03
One day you're going to watch movies and understand them fully and completely.
00:58:06
It's going to be a great day.
00:58:10
Not me though.
00:58:11
I'm going to be stupid for life.
00:58:12
All right.
00:58:16
Would you survive?
00:58:18
Yeah, I'm not haunted.
00:58:20
Great.
00:58:20
Not...paranormally.
00:58:23
At least.
00:58:25
Put that on a Hot Topic t-shirt.
00:58:29
Yeah.
00:58:30
Well, it's a Taylor Swift reference, but.
00:58:34
Never mind then.
00:58:36
It would not go well with it.
00:58:40
Yeah, until all the little emo kids start being targeted by Swifties and they have to go get refunds.
00:58:48
Poor emo kids.
00:58:51
Anyway, yeah, I'm living.
00:58:53
Everybody's living.
00:58:53
Nobody dies except Alice, but she drowns and I can swim.
00:58:56
I taught how to swim.
00:58:57
I taught Olympic level swimming, but you didn't know that about me.
00:59:00
Well, yeah, I think it was more like she was destined, you know?
00:59:05
I'm not- I have yet to see a video of myself.
00:59:08
Or I have yet to see- I have yet to record a video of my dead self.
00:59:12
So I think I'm good.
00:59:13
How about you?
00:59:17
Meh.
00:59:18
Yeah, I also have not seen a ghostly apparition of my dead self.
00:59:24
So I think I'm okay for now.
00:59:28
Knock on wood.
00:59:30
I won't even because I don't believe in it.
00:59:33
Well.
00:59:36
News tomorrow.
00:59:39
Indie podcaster found dead.
00:59:44
RIP.
00:59:46
Okay, Do you want to predict next week's movie?
00:59:51
Okay.
00:59:54
Good, because I think I changed it again on you.
00:59:56
My god, wait, isn't it Bodies Bodies Bodies?
00:59:59
Yes, okay, I didn't change it again.
01:00:01
It's Bodies Bodies Bodies.
01:00:03
Bodies X3.
01:00:05
I just did two.
01:00:07
What?
01:00:08
I said Bodies x3, but then I put two fingers up, a good old Shrek moment there.
01:00:15
Yeah media illiterate and math illiterate.
01:00:19
Can't count.
01:00:23
Okay, so this is the movie that I thought was Jennifer's Body.
01:00:29
You can see how I could be confused because of the word body.
01:00:32
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:35
Okay, so this is about...
01:00:38
a
01:00:40
town of people that start finding bodies.
01:00:48
Three of them or?
01:00:51
Way more than.
01:00:52
Got it, got it, got it.
01:00:56
Yep.
01:00:59
Yeah, so, yeah, it's just, you know, about all the bodies that they find and they're stashed away in places.
01:01:08
Hidden bodies.
01:01:09
Yeah, but there's no way for those bodies to have gotten where they were.
01:01:15
Like in concrete.
01:01:18
And a businessman opens his office door and finds a body and there's no camera evidence that anybody was in there.
01:01:30
So it's just like, it's dead bodies appearing places where they couldn't possibly.
01:01:37
Yep.
01:01:38
Yep.
01:01:39
Unexplained.
01:01:40
Well, I mean it gets explained at the end.
01:01:45
Well, it can't be aliens because we just did that and it can't be paranormal because we just did that right now so
01:01:54
I have absolutely put more than one paranormal next to each other before.
01:02:00
So is it paranormal.
01:02:01
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying, like, there's so many paranormal horror movies that I have definitely done that in the past.
01:02:09
Yeah, you know, I think it's I think it's more like like glitch in the matrix kind of thing like timelines like not time travel but different timelines and it's the people
01:02:23
dying in one timeline but their Bodies Bodies Bodies appear in another timeline when they die.
01:02:34
Okay, that's fun.
01:02:36
Yeah.
01:02:37
It's like, have you ever, have you ever like gone through an intersection and you like do like a little shiver because you think about like, I just like I could have gotten hit by
01:02:45
a car.
01:02:45
Like, you know what mean?
01:02:46
Like if you ever get those like little shivers, forget the intersection completely.
01:02:51
Do you ever get those little shivers?
01:02:53
Yes, I've had a shiver before.
01:02:55
Yeah, but like, you know, you know what I'm saying?
01:02:57
It's not like a shiver.
01:02:59
Okay, anyway.
01:03:00
I always imagine that that's me dying in another timeline.
01:03:05
That sounds...
01:03:06
healthy.
01:03:08
Yeah, no.
01:03:11
But yeah, so like in a, you know, so like sometimes you're like going through an intersection like, my god, I just got, I just got t-boned in another life or in another
01:03:18
timeline.
01:03:20
That's the vibe I'm getting from Bodies Bodies Bodies, is this just different timelines and you, you die in one and your body appears in another, but in the other timeline,
01:03:30
Yeah.
01:03:31
So, no harm done, really.
01:03:35
Just traumatizing some people, but...
01:03:37
So are the people finding their own body?
01:03:41
Yeah, they are now.
01:03:44
Yeah, that'd be great.
01:03:47
I hope they're finding their own body.
01:03:48
That's fun.
01:03:49
Yeah, that'd be, well, because, you know, if I'm going to my office building and I died in another timeline in my office, then I'm the one finding it.
01:03:57
No, mean, like, I mean, these bodies are in places that they are not supposed to be.
01:04:01
Like, like stuck in like halfway through concrete kind of like stuck.
01:04:05
how did it get there?
01:04:06
It's because it's from another time.
01:04:07
It's because in one timeline, yeah, there may be a building there, but in another timeline, that could be the middle of the forest.
01:04:12
You know what I mean?
01:04:13
Great, okay, yeah, that makes sense.
01:04:15
Yeah.
01:04:16
So maybe what's the catalyst of the story is that somebody finds their own body.
01:04:24
And then they're like, my God.
01:04:26
So these bodies that are like unexplained murders and like, it's because it's other timeline us.
01:04:36
And then a scientist is like, yeah, I figured it out.
01:04:41
Who plays the scientist?
01:04:43
Megan Fox.
01:04:44
Of course.
01:04:45
Why wouldn't she?
01:04:47
Great.
01:04:49
Sounds like a fun movie.
01:04:50
I can't wait to watch Bodies Bodies Bodies.
01:04:52
Damn.
01:04:53
I mean, I knew but that that does sound kind of fun.
01:04:55
It kind of it kind of sounds Jordan Peele.
01:05:01
Yeah, I could see that.
01:05:02
Yeah.
01:05:03
on the phone.
01:05:04
Honestly.
01:05:06
We could use our big break.
01:05:08
Yeah, yeah, I'll look him up.
01:05:13
Thanks.
01:05:15
Of course.
01:05:16
No.
01:05:18
Yeah, sorry.
01:05:21
Don't tell me anything.
01:05:22
I won't.
01:05:23
I won't tell you a thing.
01:05:24
I will tell you Megan Fox is not in it.
01:05:29
Great.
01:05:30
All right, Bodies Bodies Bodies.
01:05:33
Can't wait.
01:05:35
Couple years from now when...
01:05:37
the other movie that I just described comes out, you'll have me to thank.
01:05:42
Yep.
01:05:44
Anyway, all right, well, thanks for listening.
01:05:48
Yeah, thanks for listening.
01:05:50
I'm sorry you didn't like the movie.
01:05:51
I'm sad that you didn't like it.
01:05:53
Me too.
01:05:55
All I can do is show you movies and see how you feel about them.
01:05:58
I can't force anybody to have good taste, just kinda...
01:06:06
I have good taste.
01:06:08
you know what I mean?
01:06:08
You got to just accept the things that you cannot change.
01:06:13
Which is your friends having bad taste in movies.
01:06:22
You poor thing.
01:06:23
I can't imagine what it's like being you.
01:06:27
my god.
01:06:28
You're insufferable.
01:06:34
Recently.
01:06:35
Like literally the other day.
01:06:37
Yeah.
01:06:40
All right, well, we'll see you next week when we talk about Bodies x3.
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