The VVitch (also stylized The Witch) is a 2015 horror by Robert Eggers starring Anya Taylor-Joy and Ralph Ineson, where, in the 1630s, a young woman named Thomasin is accused by her family of witchcraft. We’ll explain the film, dive into fun facts, and rate the movie on its scare-factor, sexiness, and more.
Horror News
👉 Call Art the Clown at 772-TERRIFY - Terrifier 3: https://collider.com/terrifer-3-phone-number/
👉 Uzumaki (Junji Ito) series coming to Adult Swim September 28, 2024: https://www.adultswim.com/videos/uzumaki
👉 Hooptober 11 explained, Letterboxd tradition started September 15, 2024: https://letterboxd.com/cinemonster/list/hooptober-11-the-return-to-texas-because/
👉 Investigation Discovery true crime series The Real Murders on Elm Street now playing on Max and ID: https://deadline.com/2024/08/cabin-in-the-woods-investigation-discovery-true-crime-slate-1236039607/
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Hello?
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Hi!
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Happy Tuesday!
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Happy Tuesday.
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Welcome back to Killer Cuties Podcast.
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That's us!
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It is.
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We're here to talk about the witch.
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But first, news.
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Great.
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Okay, hit me.
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Alright, we got a synopsis of Terrifier 3 yesterday.
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I'm not gonna give it to you.
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You can go and Google it.
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What I am gonna give you...
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What I am gonna give you...
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It's Christmas time.
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It's Christmas Terrifier.
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What I am gonna give you is the phone number to call Art the Clown and leave him a voicemail.
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Wow!
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Yes.
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It's 7 7 2 - TERRIFY.
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That's 7 7 2 - 8 3 7 - 7 4 3 9.
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That was nice.
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Yeah.
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called it.
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I left him a voicemail and it was me going, because of what happens before you have to leave the message.
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I'm so excited.
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I'm gonna call.
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That's why I told you about it.
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Here's one I will give you a synopsis for.
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Uzumaki is a Japanese horror manga series written and illustrated by Junji Ito.
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It's getting a show at Adult Swim.
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The trailer dropped today or yesterday.
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And it looks so fucking creepy.
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I'm really excited for it.
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But anyway, it's about a small coastal Japanese town that's cursed by a spiral.
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It's literally a spiral and it manifests itself
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around the town, slowly consuming the inhabitants.
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It debuts on September 28th and can be watched next day on Max.
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So hopefully, hopefully everybody has Max.
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And actually, it's a nice little segue to Hooptober.
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I had some room left on my Hooptober list, my first year making list.
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And I decided to make my own category of horror anime.
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I don't feel like there's enough of that.
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So I'm excited that this is coming out.
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But I'll let you talk more about Hooptober.
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I will, in just one moment, is Junji Ito the person who did The Enigma of the Amigara Fault?
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Possibly that trailer was...
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If so,
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Fuck that guy.
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I'm kidding.
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I love that story though, so that would be sick to see his work.
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I should read more since I liked that so much, but I just haven't yet.
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it certainly has that same vibe.
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That's exactly what I thought of.
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So I would not be surprised at all.
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It's my hole!
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Let me see.
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Enigma of the okay.
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Junji Ito.
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It's him.
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I thought I was like, I recognize the name.
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Anyways, yes, thank you for the segue that I then derailed just to come back to it.
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That's how we do things here.
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So yes, Hooptober, as kd mentioned, if you're not aware of what it is, basically it started 11 years ago by a Letterboxd user who goes by the name of Cinemonster.
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And basically they created this challenge or criteria for people to use to basically find 31 horror movies that fit the given criteria.
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A lot of people participate in it.
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It's a really good way to either knock off some movies on your watch list or else to find films that you may not have watched otherwise.
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But if you're interested, the criteria this year is as follows: There must be 31 horror movies.
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You have to have movies from six different countries, eight different decades, all of the films from one horror franchise with at least four entries.
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If there's a hard reboot, you can choose whichever has the four that you prefer.
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One film by Wes Craven, one film caused by or worsened by the weather, one film starring a Black woman, one Donald Sutherland film.
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I've seen a lot of people putting Buffy in there too.
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He is in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the movie, not the show.
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Two different things.
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Three films from New World Pictures, two Indian films, four Italian films, two horror comedies.
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Two films made primarily or entirely in Texas, the birthplace of Tobe Hooper.
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One film that exists in at least two available cuts, so like an original and then a director's cut would work.
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You only have to watch one, but bonus if you watch them all.
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One Robert Wiene film or Wiene, I know he's, Wiene?
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He's German.
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Yeah, is he Austrian?
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Okay.
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One
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Michele Soavi film.
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Googled that.
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Does he?
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Well, that's a lot easier for me.
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One film from 2011, one film from 1984, and of course, one Tobe Hooper film.
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There always has to be a Tobe Hooper film.
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That's where the name comes from.
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Yes.
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And then there's also three extra credit films, Cyclone, Crawlspace, and We Are Zombies.
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Obviously one film can satisfy multiple criteria, so you don't have to find one in every category, but there's definitely enough to do that if you wish.
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And it started this past Sunday, September 15th, but there's obviously still time to make and start your list if you want to.
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Good luck.
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Yay, Hooptober.
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Yes, all credit to Cinemonster on Letterboxd.
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Yeah, I learned a lot making my list and I made sure that it was movies I hadn't seen before, which was not hard, but...
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Yeah, I like that.
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I tried to knock some off of my watch list.
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There were a few that I have already seen because it was a little bit difficult for me personally, but I am really excited.
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There were a few on there that I was like, I've been meaning to watch these and I just haven't gotten around to it.
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So it'll be nice to hold myself accountable for that.
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Yeah.
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Nice.
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Exciting.
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Mm -hmm.
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Two more little newses and then we'll talk about The Witch.
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Investigation Discovery is releasing a true crime docuseries called The Real Murders on Elm Street.
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Actually, by the time this is released an episode or two will be available already on both Max and ID.
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So again, get Max I guess, not sponsored.
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It premiered, yeah, it premiered September 9th.
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It's a six part series about small suburban towns across America where various murders have occurred.
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Interesting.
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So I don't think it's like actually about Nightmare on Elm Street.
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They're just riffing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's just like small town murders.
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And then.
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What small town murders?
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I'm pretty sure that's the name of the podcast.
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Yeah.
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funny.
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Yeah, it's probably inspired by that then.
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One day a show will be inspired by our podcast.
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I hope not.
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Okay.
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Okay, and then this is my favorite of all of my news.
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Fans of Stranger Things and Polly Pocket, rejoice.
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You can now pre -order a brand new Stranger Things themed Polly Pocket compact.
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Shut up.
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Yeah, it's 50 bucks.
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You can pre -order it through Mattel Creations.
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It includes a breakthrough chalkboard, waffles, bikes, and walkie talkies, and the Demogorgon is one of six characters that are included.
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Go and check it out.
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I used to love Polly Pockets when I was a kid.
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Yeah, I didn't have the ones that were actually in the compact houses.
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I had the ones with the rubber clothes that you chew on, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, yeah, this one, the two sides of the compact, one is Hawkins and one's the upside down.
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Yeah, it really is.
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A collab I never knew I needed, you know?
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Horror and Mattel.
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Together as one.
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I love it.
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Alright, should we talk about The Witch?
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Are we ready?
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I'm ready.
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Okay, little overview.
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If it's been a while since you've seen it, since it came out almost 10 years ago.
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Yeah.
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In 1630 New England, panic and despair envelops a farmer, his wife, and their children when their youngest son, Samuel suddenly vanishes.
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The family blames Thomasin, the oldest daughter who was watching the boy at the time of his disappearance.
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With suspicion and paranoia mounting, twin siblings
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Mercy and Jonas suspect Thomasin of witchcraft, testing the clan's faith, loyalty, and love to one another.
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It was written and directed by Robert Eggers.
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It stars Anya Taylor -Joy in her first ever starring role.
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I think first ever credit role anyways.
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Ralph Ineson, who you might know from the British The Office, and Kate Dickie.
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I don't have anything about her.
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I'm so sorry.
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Game of Thrones.
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Never seen Game of Thrones.
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Sorry.
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Ineson's in it too.
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Apologies to both of them.
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It has a 7 out of 10 on IMDb, a 91 % critics score, and 60 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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It made $40 million against a $4 million budget.
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So it was critically and financially very successful.
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But did we like it?
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That's the question.
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That's what matters, and that's what we're here to answer today.
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Yeah.
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Without...
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Yeah.
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We're gonna try to go 40 minutes without telling you how much we liked it.
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So...
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fast forward, I guess.
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If you wanna know.
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Annoyingly, you put a lot of my fun facts in the overview.
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So...
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of fun facts about this.
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So if you, if that's all you had.
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No, no, no.
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Just you put a lot of them in there.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm so sorry.
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This is the first film in a long time where I vehemently disagree with the aud- Well, wow, I'm spoiling it right now.
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I'm telling you right now how much I like it.
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With,
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thought you would have to wait 40 minutes?
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Joke's on you.
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It's happening right now.
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The people who skipped ahead right now?
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Furious.
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so mad.
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Well, they don't even know, so.
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True.
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Critics?
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Correct.
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Audiences can suck my ass.
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That's a big spread.
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91 % and 60 % is a huge spread.
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That is, that is.
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I mean, the IMDb is audiences too, and that's 70%.
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So not quite as big of a...
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Yeah.
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Metacritic was 84.
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There you go.
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Metacritic's always high.
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You can always count on Metacritic to be like, 85 % of people like this movie, and then it's the worst movie you've ever seen in your life.
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And you're like, whoa, what the fuck?
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Yeah, not to spoil anything more, but I would agree with you.
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I lean much more towards the critics than the audiences here.
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Yeah, we're real critics now.
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For that reason alone.
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critics.
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We're becoming the critics.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We are the critics that we aspire to be.
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You're only as critic as your biggest critic.
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You'll get there.
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Don't worry about it.
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Is that in the movie?
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Did you just make it up?
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Okay.
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And I apologize.
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Thank you.
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New title of our podcast, You're Only as Critic as Your Biggest Critic.
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My god.
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I watched, well, watched is a strong word.
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I saw a lot of comparing this movie to The Lighthouse, the other Robert Eggers film, A24, and, Midsommar even.
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What I did not see people comparing it to, which is crazy to me,
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is Hereditary.
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This is 1600s Hereditary to me.
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Sure, yeah.
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I can see that.
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I mean, it's...
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a kid kills another kid.
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Mom's fucking pissed about that.
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Well...
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What kid killed the other kid?
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Well, it's the same.
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mean, the the brother, wasn't the brother's fault, just like it wasn't Thomasin's fault.
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I mean, it was more the brother's fault than it was Thomasin's.
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Yeah, like, Thomasin di- didn't really have much to do with it at all.
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The mom blaming the kid for that, I guess.
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Yes, okay.
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Yeah.
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know, spooky things happen.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And then the mom goes crazy.
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And then the kid ends up being or not being,
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The Witch.
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Being or not being.
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Yeah, it's up to you to decide, I guess.
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Well, in this movie, it literally is.
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It was written that way.
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Well, director Robert Eggers has said that he designed the film to be interpreted in two different ways.
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And that's either that they were actually real witches or it was like shared psychosis basically.
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It's, yeah, from being on the outskirts of the family and obviously like I think religious psychosis has something to do with that where it's like you're instilled these beliefs
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that, you know,
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kind of an easy out to be like, well a witch must have done it when your kid gets eaten by a wolf.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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So I guess you could interpret it any way you'd like according to Dr.
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- nope, Director Robert Eggers.
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Yes, Dr.
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Eggers, as we all know him.
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I just sent that man to medical school all by myself.
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You're welcome, Dr.
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Eggers.
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graduation, doctor.
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Haha that's that's one of my favorite things about this movie is that, you know, it it can be taken literally or it can be taken figuratively.
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And that was the intention, which makes it so much more fun because nobody's wrong.
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Everybody's correct.
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Yeah.
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You're all right.
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Yeah, a horror film that brings people together.
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Except the audience apparently, fuck them.
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entire audience who didn't like it that much.
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yeah, fucking weirdos, what's wrong with you?
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They were thinking of some third, weird interpretation.
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And they didn't like it, yeah.
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Question.
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When you guessed the plot of this movie, you were unbelievably adamant that someone's tongue goes somewhere that it doesn't belong.
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What were you thinking of?
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Where?
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The witch as the sexy young lady.
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She just kisses the guy, there's no tongue.
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I rewatched it.
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Kisses the brother.
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There's no shot of a tongue at all.
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well, there's no, like, it's implied.
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She goes for it.
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so set that someone's tongue was coming out.
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And there's no shot of a tongue!
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but she's...
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She is very clearly putting her tongue where I don't belong.
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Into a child!
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no one says yeah, we can get into that in a second, but no one says someone puts their tongue where it doesn't belong when they're describing a kiss in a movie.
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That's crazy.
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No one says that.
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absolute aggression in that smooch?
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There's no way she kept her fucking tongue in her mouth.
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I think she did because he was 13.
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She's a witch, she doesn't care how old he is.
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She's sucking his soul out.
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She had to deposit a full apple into his throat.
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You think she's not using her fucking tongue to do that?
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we don't know that that happened in that scene.
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Okay, I'm just saying it was a weird way to describe that someone kisses someone.
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No one in the history of ever, except that moment, has ever said that to describe a kiss.
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Okay.
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and just no, just, I mean, watch it.
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There's some fucking tongue action, definitely.
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There's no tongue shown, just to be clear.
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Not shown, implied.
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That's great that you implied that from that scene, but again, no human being on Earth has ever described a tongue being put where it shouldn't when they're describing a kiss in the
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scene.
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That's weird.
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Was I wrong though that she shouldn't have been kissing him?
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No, you were absolutely correct and I still stand by the fact that that is weird fucking filming practices and I don't even know how that's legally allowed.
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She was like 25 filming that scene and he was 13.
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Jail.
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Jail for everybody.
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Yeah, I don't like that.
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one of the fun facts, so people have obviously talked about this, was how uncomfortable the kid was with it.
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Yeah, he was like, I've never kissed anybody on camera before.
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And it's like, yeah, because you're 13 and you shouldn't have to do that.
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Especially a fucking adult.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I didn't like that.
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That is my least favorite thing about the movie.
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Yeah.
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One of my favorite thing about the movie in the subtitles several times.
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Ominous farm animal sounds.
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I love that.
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Yeah, my favorite kind of farm animal sounds.
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Yeah.
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Great.
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Never know what's gonna happen next when there's ominous farm animal sounds.
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That's true.
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It's Black Phillip.
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That's what's going to happen.
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Are you ready to talk about Black Phillip?
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Do we want to talk about him already?
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Sure.
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He's a little...
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he's a little shit.
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He is a little shit.
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Speaking of which, I just saw a TikTok today of a goat that looks like white Phillip.
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I mean, black Phillip, except he was white.
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Which is why I Freudian slipped white Phillip.
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And he does that same thing that Phillip does.
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Goat thing where he rears up and he goes head first into a glass door and then walks away like nothing happened.
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Hell yeah.
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I like that.
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Yeah, very goat.
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But yeah, Robert Eggers said that the best behaved animal was the hare.
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Which also you were like, there's so many rabbits in this, but there's one.
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Yeah, there's one rabbit, But it it - ap- appears many times.
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That's true.
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And the raven and the horse were pretty easy to work with, but Black Phillip, the goat, was awful.
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He was not well trained.
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And there's a scene in the movie where he kind of charges against the dad a little bit, and the dad has to struggle to stop him.
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Not in the script.
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That just happened.
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The goat was just not having it.
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So yeah.
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Yeah, they had a lot more scenes planned with him, just...
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Yeah, he wasn't trained as well as they were promised, supposedly.
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Yeah.
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Also, the actor who portrayed human Black Phillip?
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Yeah.
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Sorry, he's really attractive.
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Yeah, he was.
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Haha
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Was cast, supposedly because he looked identical to a sketch of the human version of Black Phillip.
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They didn't cast him based on his voice?
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Because I would have.
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My god.
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yeah, Ralph Ineson has a great voice.
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Like half the Letterboxd reviews I saw were about how this is like Black Phillips the OG ASMR girly.
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Yeah, yeah, honestly, I'd listen to him talk all day.
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Do you see a book?
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Did you notice during that scene that as he's walking past the book his feet change he's the first step is okay
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I thought that was like the whole point.
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Then he puts his hand on her shoulder.
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It's like showing him be like, yeah, I'm actually the devil.
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Yeah.
00:22:26
I wish one of my goats was the devil.
00:22:31
Okay.
00:22:34
They're just boring and stupid.
00:22:36
Yeah, just like regular goats.
00:22:39
Ew.
00:22:40
Seriously.
00:22:43
Eggers, he doesn't like color, does he?
00:22:47
No, it was very boring.
00:22:48
But I think it was the 30s, was the 30s, the 1630s.
00:22:54
None of the 30s yet have had a lot of color in them.
00:23:00
yeah, a few years.
00:23:04
Yeah, God.
00:23:05
I know, that's fucked up.
00:23:08
Yeah, what, two black and white films and then this is like the most muted movie in the world.
00:23:14
Yeah, sad beige baby vibes.
00:23:16
It is.
00:23:17
Like literally.
00:23:18
A baby dies immediately.
00:23:20
That's super sad.
00:23:22
Yeah.
00:23:25
It's a wild way to start a film.
00:23:27
That, yeah, I was so uncomfortable with the like,
00:23:32
long finger pet down the baby's body.
00:23:34
Yeah, yeah.
00:23:36
No thanks.
00:23:38
You know what, I can respect the fact that it's like 10 minutes in, they're like, this is what we're about.
00:23:45
Baby's in a mortar and pestle.
00:23:49
Straight to the point.
00:23:51
What did you just call that?
00:23:53
A mortar and pestle?
00:23:54
Isn't that what it's called?
00:23:57
I don't think you're supposed to say the T.
00:23:58
I think it's a mortar and pestle.
00:24:02
Yeah.
00:24:04
Really?
00:24:05
I'm pretty sure.
00:24:05
Hey, you're right.
00:24:08
Pestle.
00:24:10
You know, it's one of those things that I've never heard said out loud before.
00:24:14
So you decided to say it live in front of all these people.
00:24:17
Well yeah, because I edit, so I'll just cut it out.
00:24:22
Ready, see, ready, htey'll never know.
00:24:24
A baby in a mortar and pestle?
00:24:27
Seamless.
00:24:28
Crazy.
00:24:28
Oh god.
00:24:30
Yeah, I don't know how I feel about baby smoothie.
00:24:38
That was...
00:24:40
It was look...
00:24:41
It was chunky.
00:24:43
baby ointment, actually, so.
00:24:45
It's flying ointment.
00:24:46
That's how they make it.
00:24:47
I know that's...
00:24:49
I don't like that.
00:24:50
Yeah.
00:24:52
But yeah, sad beige baby.
00:24:56
That was the original shooting title.
00:25:01
Also, according to the cinematographer, they mainly used natural light and whatever was available, which I feel like you can tell.
00:25:11
Yeah, Eggers said that too.
00:25:12
Eggers said they primarily use candlelight.
00:25:14
Like very authentic.
00:25:17
It's not that dark.
00:25:18
Get over yourself.
00:25:19
It's not that dark.
00:25:21
No, there were only a few scenes that I was like, what's going on here?
00:25:25
My god.
00:25:28
I thought he did a great job considering he was only using the lighting available in the time.
00:25:33
There's some people with today's lighting that can't make it that bright.
00:25:38
Yeah.
00:25:39
Although you're acting like he filmed it in 1630.
00:25:41
You know he didn't, right?
00:25:44
Got it.
00:25:45
Okay, just making sure.
00:25:48
Yes.
00:25:50
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:50
You're impossible.
00:25:52
Is it so much to ask to say that if I watch a movie I want to see the movie?
00:25:56
Is that a crazy request?
00:26:00
Okay, well if the tone is that you can't see shit, I'm not saying that about this movie specifically, but like if the tone is that you can't see shit, that's not the tone I want
00:26:08
for a movie.
00:26:09
I agree.
00:26:09
This movie did not do that.
00:26:12
You could still see.
00:26:13
scenes that were too dark.
00:26:16
Overall, it was fine.
00:26:18
More about the filming.
00:26:22
All of the scenes that involve the witch and anything supernatural, so like when Katherine dreams of Caleb, are all shot at a higher frame rate than the rest of the film.
00:26:35
Hmm.
00:26:37
Make it little eerier and a little bit more different.
00:26:40
Yeah.
00:26:40
And the whole movie was shot in 25 days.
00:26:44
I thought you were going to say the aspect ratio for a second.
00:26:48
No, I don't care.
00:26:51
25 days is more interesting to me.
00:26:56
Yeah, that's a quick turnaround.
00:26:59
But not a huge budget.
00:27:00
I mean, four million is a lot of money, but for movie these days, not a lot of money.
00:27:08
Yeah, I know.
00:27:09
I'll be honest.
00:27:09
I'm just uneducated on aspect ratios and stuff like that.
00:27:14
Movies all look the same to me.
00:27:15
I can't tell.
00:27:16
You could put two different aspect ratios in front of me and I probably wouldn't be able to tell you the difference.
00:27:20
So, I just don't, it's just not something that I care too much about, you know what I mean?
00:27:24
Yeah, that's fair.
00:27:25
You should see something in true IMAX because it's basically square.
00:27:29
I saw Alien: Romulus in the IMAX.
00:27:34
True IMAX?
00:27:36
The IMAX at my AMC, so not really.
00:27:45
Well, some of the AMCs have true IMAX.
00:27:49
I didn't feel like a the - like when you go to the IMAX when you were a kid.
00:27:53
Was it fucking huge?
00:27:54
Was it an enormous screen?
00:27:57
Like 500 seats?
00:27:59
I didn't count.
00:28:01
Well estimate how many...
00:28:03
big theater, but 500 feels like a lot, maybe.
00:28:07
I was more interested in what was happening, if I'm being honest.
00:28:10
fair.
00:28:10
That's fair.
00:28:12
I mean, did it look like a square?
00:28:13
Was it a square movie?
00:28:15
Mmm, no.
00:28:17
It was still rectangular, I think.
00:28:20
Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, didn't, when I said that I did that, I didn't think I was gonna get quizzed on it, so I didn't.
00:28:26
When I went to the theater, I was not thinking I'm gonna have to talk about this later.
00:28:30
I thought maybe the movie itself I would talk about, not the aspect ratio or the fact that it was in IMAX.
00:28:37
Well, I still haven't seen it, so we have to talk about something.
00:28:40
Yeah, well...
00:28:42
I'll see it eventually.
00:28:43
Perhaps this weekend.
00:28:45
I'm just saying, that's one movie that lights shit.
00:28:50
I could see everything that happened in that movie.
00:28:54
So about the aspect ratio, it was shot in a very specific aspect ratio that we don't get to see very often.
00:29:00
So it is pretty interesting just for the people who do care about that kind of thing.
00:29:06
For everyone who's not me and gives a shit about aspect ratio, you should see this movie.
00:29:12
Yeah, for that reason alone.
00:29:23
Yeah, I should have let you say that the film was shot in 25 days.
00:29:25
Do you want to?
00:29:26
You still can.
00:29:28
Okay.
00:29:29
I deleted the fun fact about the aspect ratio.
00:29:32
That's how much I didn't care.
00:29:33
I had no intentions of talking about it at all.
00:29:40
Robert Eggers has said that the question he gets asked the most about this film is did any supernatural or paranormal events occur during filming?
00:29:51
And obviously people always ask that because of you know, The Exorcist or The Omen or Poltergeist and all that kind of stuff.
00:30:00
Yeah, but you know, witches.
00:30:01
Witches be crazy.
00:30:04
He said no.
00:30:05
Nope, nothing.
00:30:08
Nothing happened.
00:30:09
So there you go.
00:30:10
Nothing happened in any the other ones either, so...
00:30:13
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:30:14
Well, I mean, things did happen.
00:30:17
Supernatural or paranormal?
00:30:19
Probably not.
00:30:20
But that's my opinion.
00:30:24
But like,
00:30:25
a plane did go down during the filming of The Omen.
00:30:29
I don't think it was the devil doing it.
00:30:31
But
00:30:35
To each their own.
00:30:36
Who's to say?
00:30:38
Me.
00:30:39
did however, and I think you were going to say this, in an interview, say, Someone asked him, have you ever had an encounter with the supernatural?
00:30:49
And he smiled and said, no comment.
00:30:52
Yeah.
00:30:54
Which is a little suspicious.
00:30:55
What is he not telling us?
00:30:56
Probably whatever supernatural thing that he thinks happened to him would be my guess.
00:31:06
Or maybe nothing and he just wanted to like keep the mystery alive, you know?
00:31:12
Yeah, those are the two options.
00:31:14
Yeah, I'm gonna start doing that.
00:31:20
Telling people no comment.
00:31:21
Yeah.
00:31:22
Have you ever seen a ghost?
00:31:24
No comment.
00:31:27
You'll never know.
00:31:29
my god.
00:31:32
Although I do say that I don't believe in ghosts, but if they are real, then I have seen one.
00:31:37
So there's that.
00:31:42
Right.
00:31:45
I think I was just a kid and a liar.
00:31:48
But that's the only time I don't remember deciding to lie about it.
00:31:52
You know what I mean?
00:31:53
I lied about seeing a lot of ghosts.
00:31:55
That's the only time I was like, I don't really remember making that one up.
00:32:00
But I don't believe in ghosts, so I must have.
00:32:06
It was really scary.
00:32:08
Did she see a ghost?
00:32:10
Well, she didn't say that.
00:32:13
She woke up crying.
00:32:14
We have a baby monitor by the bed.
00:32:15
She woke up crying.
00:32:17
I got the baby monitor.
00:32:17
I said, what do you want?
00:32:19
Go back to sleep.
00:32:21
And she's like, I saw something in my room.
00:32:24
And I'm like, interesting.
00:32:28
What did you see?
00:32:29
And she said, I don't know.
00:32:31
It was just like a shape in the corner.
00:32:33
Okay.
00:32:35
Is it gone now?
00:32:36
Yeah, but I'm cold now.
00:32:40
Haha.
00:32:42
Okay, I'll be right there and then I had to go and cleanse her room.
00:32:47
You didn't just like turn the AC down or?
00:32:51
Okay, great.
00:32:52
And I made sure there wasn't like a person in her bedroom.
00:32:55
Yeah, well, yeah, that's good.
00:32:59
Yeah.
00:33:00
That was really spooky.
00:33:02
But you don't believe in ghosts, so...
00:33:04
That story's much more effective on people who...
00:33:08
Like, I told it to some other people that believe in ghosts and they're like, what the fuck?
00:33:12
Yeah.
00:33:14
It's much more fun telling it to them.
00:33:17
Yeah, well, you know.
00:33:19
Kids say a lot of shit if I believed everything out of their mouths,
00:33:23
it'd be a long, arduous life.
00:33:25
Yeah.
00:33:28
Back to the film...
00:33:30
It was inspired by lot of different folktales, fairy tales, and written accounts of historical witchcraft, including journals and diaries and court records.
00:33:39
And a lot of the dialogue comes directly from those sources, and including- Robert Eggers saw the witch spelled with two V's a lot, because at the time it's set,
00:33:57
W just wasn't a common language, or not a common language, a common letter.
00:34:01
So it just wasn't used a lot.
00:34:03
And so that's how he decided the title would be stylized in that way.
00:34:08
Yeah.
00:34:11
Yeah, I was really impressed by the attention to detail in the production of this.
00:34:19
That being one thing.
00:34:21
The, you know, costume design very, what's the word I'm looking for?
00:34:31
Appropriate for the time.
00:34:36
The satanic temple has even endorsed this movie.
00:34:40
They said that they've, they address the film as quote, "An impressive presentation of satanic insight that will inform contemporary discussion of religious experience."
00:34:52
Like even they were like, you guys did a pretty good job portraying.
00:34:56
Which is crazy because I feel like a lot of like...
00:35:00
people in the satanic temple or whatever are like pretty normal.
00:35:04
Yeah, they're just, you know...
00:35:08
Yeah.
00:35:09
Who just kinda don't really believe in it.
00:35:15
Yeah.
00:35:16
Like I've seen a lot of them be like, when people are like, you believe in Satan, it's like, well, no, you believe in Satan because you believe in God and Satan.
00:35:28
But I guess that's more like LaVeyan Satanists who just believe in like the 10 commandments of the devil that are just like, maybe do some things for yourself instead of
00:35:39
sacrificing everything for everyone around you.
00:35:43
Yeah.
00:35:44
What a concept.
00:35:46
But there's more than just that.
00:35:52
During the witch hunts of kind of that time period, the colonization of America, witches could not say the Lord's Prayer is what it was believed.
00:36:04
So that's why the family gets all up in arms about why the kids can't say the Lord's Prayer.
00:36:09
Which is weird because wouldn't that make Mercy and Jonas the witches?
00:36:17
Not Thomasin.
00:36:19
Yeah, Thomasin said the prayer, you'd think that the dad would be like, these two little demons.
00:36:26
Let's lock them in the shed instead of Thomasin, too.
00:36:30
Which, where did they go?
00:36:35
I think that's another thing that's kind of up for interpretation.
00:36:38
Okay.
00:36:38
But they're missing.
00:36:41
I don't know, I kind of think of it as like they disappeared kind of like Samuel did, but we just didn't see what happened to them, like we saw what happened to Samuel.
00:36:48
If you are under the impression that everything you see here is a literal interpretation, I guess.
00:36:55
Right, right.
00:36:56
They didn't turn into goats and they were the goats on the ground?
00:37:00
I don't think so, because they were in a goat stable.
00:37:07
So I think those were the goats that were with them.
00:37:10
That's probably correct.
00:37:14
I think so.
00:37:15
Are you just trying to fit your witches turning people into ghosts narrative that you said that the movie was about?
00:37:21
Yeah.
00:37:22
Yeah.
00:37:23
I don't - that was not my interpretation of it, but Robert Eggers said you can interpret it how you want, so.
00:37:32
well, no, can interpret it one of two different ways.
00:37:36
Yeah.
00:37:36
is technically what he said.
00:37:38
They literally got turned into goats or they figuratively got turned into goats.
00:37:44
The only two options, but they were goats.
00:37:46
Yeah.
00:37:49
A couple more little like attention to detail things.
00:37:54
The witch's teat is a - supposedly witch's had like a third nipple to be able to feed their familiars with blood.
00:38:06
Which obviously, Katherine is nursing the crow.
00:38:08
And then the Black Phillip line, "Wouldst thou like the taste of butter?" Supposedly the Catholic Church thought that eating butter was a bigger sin than even lying, blasphemy, or
00:38:23
impurity.
00:38:24
Mm -hmm.
00:38:25
So,
00:38:25
that's relevant.
00:38:29
That yeah, it's, he's tempting them.
00:38:34
But you know what?
00:38:37
The Bible also says that shellfish is a sin, so.
00:38:41
Okay.
00:38:42
Yeah, it says that there's a lot of sin happening.
00:38:44
Yeah, and if there's one thing I'm gonna sin for, it's shrimp in butter.
00:38:54
Knock them both out at once, you know?
00:38:56
Yeah.
00:38:57
What's that called?
00:38:57
Not not poached shrimp.
00:38:59
What's it called?
00:39:00
What's it called when you know?
00:39:03
Is it yeah, no scampi butter.
00:39:06
Yeah, you know, you're right.
00:39:06
You're right.
00:39:07
It's scampi shrimp scampi butter butter shrimp.
00:39:09
Yep.
00:39:11
my god butter shrimp the biggest sin
00:39:14
Garlic.
00:39:15
I don't think garlic's a sin, but it might as well be.
00:39:17
It's that good.
00:39:19
Yeah.
00:39:20
Anyway.
00:39:21
Ha!
00:39:23
I just like that Robert Eggers was so very clearly in the lore of witches and like the witch trials that he made all these little references.
00:39:35
he's taking most of the dialogue from the source material, obviously he was consuming a lot of that in order to make it.
00:39:47
Which is also, I think, he didn't even pitch the script.
00:39:51
Like his friend took the script without him even knowing and showed it to their friends that were, I think, a production company.
00:40:00
Interesting.
00:40:01
And he was like, wait, it's not finished.
00:40:03
Like, it's not ready yet.
00:40:04
But they were like, no, we love it.
00:40:06
So they told him to make a few tweaks here and there and I think like the direction of it exactly to kind of like tighten it up a little bit.
00:40:16
And four years later, he was making The Witch.
00:40:20
Yeah.
00:40:21
I don't think you should take your friends stuff without them knowing, but if you're gonna get them their directorial debut, then maybe.
00:40:28
Maybe do that.
00:40:30
Yeah.
00:40:32
I would, yeah, would forgive pretty quickly.
00:40:36
Yeah.
00:40:38
You know, supposedly he had pitched other witch stories, but they were a little too left field.
00:40:47
Yeah.
00:40:49
This one's.
00:40:52
Center field.
00:40:54
Yeah.
00:40:56
Well, yeah.
00:40:58
Okay.
00:40:58
Right field?
00:41:01
Actually, I don't understand that expression because any part of the field is good as long as there's not someone standing there.
00:41:11
So the expression should be out of bounds.
00:41:17
Foul ball.
00:41:19
Yeah, foul.
00:41:20
Well, yeah.
00:41:24
Baseball.
00:41:27
Is it a baseball?
00:41:28
Is it baseball?
00:41:28
Is that what they're talking about?
00:41:29
Left field?
00:41:31
Left field.
00:41:31
have like left fielders and right fielders, right?
00:41:34
Yeah.
00:41:34
We should have started a sports podcast.
00:41:42
I shouldn't have typed in meaning, I meant origin.
00:41:45
Yeah, like, whoa, like that was so out of left field.
00:41:49
It came out of nowhere.
00:41:51
to the 2007 concise new Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English, the phrase came from baseball terminology, nailed it, I love sports and I don't care who
00:42:08
knows, referring to a play in which the ball is thrown from the area covered by the left fielder to either home plate
00:42:17
or first base surprising the runner.
00:42:19
It's because you're running and you don't see it coming from behind you because it's left field.
00:42:23
It came out of left field.
00:42:25
Oh my god.
00:42:27
That makes so much sense.
00:42:29
I love sports so much.
00:42:33
Incredible.
00:42:34
I was too.
00:42:37
No, but it came out of left field.
00:42:39
it came out of left field and it got you out, b**ch, from behind you, from left field.
00:42:49
Yeah, that makes f**king sense.
00:42:50
That's a good one.
00:42:53
Baller Cuties podcast coming soon.
00:42:58
That's not good.
00:42:59
Well, it's a work in progress.
00:43:00
We're working on it.
00:43:01
go watch the Night Swim episode.
00:43:02
That's the closest you're going to get.
00:43:05
Which she's choking, which speaking of which little Night Swim fun fact, the guy who did the music for this movie did Night Swim also.
00:43:20
Yep, yep.
00:43:23
Which is insane because this movie was very good.
00:43:27
Music wise, I mean, both - everything about it was good, but.
00:43:29
He did this?
00:43:31
Night Swim!
00:43:32
He did a really a ton of clunkers.
00:43:36
Yeah, but he also did The Black Phone, he did The First Omen.
00:43:39
Yeah.
00:43:41
He had some hits and misses.
00:43:43
Well, duh.
00:43:45
Yeah, he's definitely had some misses in Night Swim but he's had some hits too, so.
00:43:51
And if I'm being honest, it wasn't like the music in Night Swim was what brought it down.
00:43:57
It was almost everything else.
00:44:00
Correct, correct.
00:44:01
But hey, look at us using another sports analogy, hits and misses.
00:44:07
More baseball.
00:44:09
What jokes on you, this is the Baller Cuties podcast.
00:44:14
Welcome.
00:44:18
Hahaha
00:44:19
I'm not strong enough.
00:44:20
I can't do it.
00:44:23
I'm missing a football game to record this right now.
00:44:26
Are you a big football fan?
00:44:29
Who's your team?
00:44:30
the Cardinals.
00:44:32
What?
00:44:35
You know this about me, my bachelorette party was at an NFL game.
00:44:39
I'm not gonna lie to you, as hard as it is for me to admit this on the Baller Cuties podcast, I thought the Cardinals were a baseball team.
00:44:47
They are, but I'm talking about the NFL team, the Cardinals.
00:44:51
There's also a St.
00:44:52
Louis Cardinals, the baseball team.
00:44:55
For fuck's sake!
00:44:57
Are you joking?!
00:44:58
Well, you know, like half of the country's state bird is the cardinal.
00:45:02
And surprisingly, Arizona is not one of those, annoyingly.
00:45:06
after a bird anyway in football?
00:45:08
That doesn't make any goddamn sense.
00:45:10
Most of them are.
00:45:12
Most football teams are named after a bird.
00:45:15
No.
00:45:15
So many of them.
00:45:16
None of the ones I can think, the Dolphins, the Panthers, the Packers, the Bears, the Vikings, the 49ers.
00:45:24
I can't think,
00:45:25
of them.
00:45:25
There's a lot of them.
00:45:31
No, that's the Patriots.
00:45:33
The...
00:45:35
Okay, well that's kind of a cool bird though.
00:45:37
Hmm, that's pretty lame.
00:45:41
That's, I mean, America, you gotta kinda.
00:45:44
Philadelphia.
00:45:45
Philadelphia is very American.
00:45:46
Quintessential.
00:45:48
that's three.
00:45:50
Cardinals, that's four.
00:45:52
There's only like 50 of them.
00:45:53
That's like a 10th.
00:45:55
is a stupid name.
00:45:56
No one's scared of a Cardinal.
00:45:59
His name's Big Red.
00:46:00
He's a big buff - He's a big scary guy.
00:46:04
I'm sure.
00:46:07
Anyway, there's a lot of, think there's more that I'm not thinking of.
00:46:12
Yeah.
00:46:13
okay, should we stop talking about sports and talk about The Witch?
00:46:16
I don't even know how we're making connections.
00:46:19
This movie could not be less about sports.
00:46:23
Left field, Night Swim, hits and misses.
00:46:26
I get how we got there.
00:46:28
It just...
00:46:30
It seems out of left field,
00:46:34
But
00:46:34
about witches.
00:46:35
Set in the 30s.
00:46:36
The 1630s.
00:46:37
The 1630s.
00:46:38
That part's a secret.
00:46:40
Yeah, the 1630s.
00:46:49
Well, I'll, I'll, I'll rerail the train.
00:46:54
Yeah.
00:46:54
The actress who played the witch is Bathsheba Garnett, who, if you didn't know, is the German teacher in Mean Girls.
00:47:05
Yeah.
00:47:08
Yeah, she's also in a 1990s episode of Goosebumps as a witch.
00:47:14
Plays a witch.
00:47:16
Yeah.
00:47:17
Yeah.
00:47:18
But anyway, she had some real difficulty preparing for the scene where the witch eats baby Sam.
00:47:27
She said that her acting technique is to try to find just even one redeeming quality in her characters to like kind of add depth to that character.
00:47:37
And she just couldn't do it.
00:47:40
It was almost impossible because she was playing a monster eating a baby.
00:47:45
Yeah.
00:47:45
Yeah, I can imagine that it would be hard to find a redeeming quality.
00:47:49
In a baby eater.
00:47:50
but...
00:47:52
I'm sure she was just trying to maybe she was feeding her familiar.
00:47:56
Maybe she was taking she's a good she's a good dog mom.
00:48:00
Yeah.
00:48:01
A good pet parent, if you will.
00:48:04
Exactly.
00:48:04
Yeah, I think if I was an actor, I'd have to be like, sometimes there's not going to be a redeeming quality.
00:48:10
Yeah, well when I play a bad guy, I'm not thinking about how good they are.
00:48:14
Yeah.
00:48:15
thinking like soak in the badness for a little bit, you know?
00:48:19
Yeah.
00:48:19
fucking baby.
00:48:22
Yeah.
00:48:23
I know exactly.
00:48:25
Yeah.
00:48:26
Kind of circling back to the whole interpreted in two ways type of thing.
00:48:30
I just kind of forgot about this fun fact until I just saw it here and then I was like, let me circle back to the beginning of the fucking episode.
00:48:39
a lot of people kind of mistakenly think that when they're holding the rotted corn that that is a sign of...
00:48:45
is it ergot?
00:48:47
Like the fungus?
00:48:48
Okay.
00:48:49
Ergot?
00:48:50
Ergot?
00:48:51
Ergo?
00:48:52
Who's to say?
00:48:52
Ergo!
00:48:56
I don't know, but anyways, it's the fungus that produces like a hallucinogen that is said to be a cause of a lot of the Salem witch trial, like that mass hysteria.
00:49:06
It's kind of attributed to that.
00:49:08
It's like a rot that happens.
00:49:12
However, that's a misconception because it doesn't grow on corn.
00:49:15
It only grows on like rye and other like cereal grasses.
00:49:20
So.
00:49:21
I think it kind of would have been more fun if,
00:49:24
they had included it on like rye or something.
00:49:27
That way it would have been like, even more so, this could have been it, you know?
00:49:33
Barley, spelt, commut.
00:49:39
Yeah, you can't disparage corn like that.
00:49:42
Too bad, that's pretty, that would have been real slick to throw that in there.
00:49:47
Yeah.
00:49:48
then it's even, I feel like even more up for interpretation.
00:49:52
There's even more evidence for it being mass hysteria.
00:49:55
Yeah.
00:49:57
Missed opportunity if you ask me.
00:49:59
Mm -hmm.
00:49:59
What other fun facts do you have?
00:50:01
Apparently Robert Eggers said that it was difficult for him to direct Harvey Scrimshaw because he didn't have kids at the time and so he just didn't really know how to talk to
00:50:12
kids.
00:50:14
So Harvey just wasn't really getting a lot of his direction.
00:50:16
And so Eggers kind of admitted that Ralph Ineson stepped in a lot and would kind of coach Harvey himself in a lot of their scenes.
00:50:27
And I guess he used a lot of
00:50:30
soccer references, back to sports here we go, we just can't escape it.
00:50:35
My god, Baller Cuties!
00:50:39
That's us.
00:50:41
But yeah, so he would kind of prep him like he was playing soccer rather than acting in a scene.
00:50:46
I thought that was cute.
00:50:49
Ralph Ineson just coaching his kid.
00:50:51
Not - his fake kid, but you know.
00:50:56
Fake, very distraught kid.
00:50:57
Yeah, he was going through it.
00:51:00
What other fun facts do you have?
00:51:03
I don't have anymore.
00:51:04
Well, should we rate it?
00:51:05
rate it, yeah, I think so.
00:51:07
Alright, I'm in.
00:51:09
Alright, how scary did you think it was?
00:51:13
I gave it a 1.
00:51:15
Okay.
00:51:16
I don't know.
00:51:16
I can't really explain it.
00:51:19
This movie just does not scare me.
00:51:22
Okay.
00:51:25
Vibe is up, scares are down.
00:51:28
What about you?
00:51:30
Well, it's funny you should say that because I gave it a 2 .5 for the vibe.
00:51:34
Okay.
00:51:35
Yeah, the vibe was a little spooky.
00:51:39
I think the use of lighting definitely played a part in that and the no electronic instruments just very like, you know, just kind of like put you in the mood to be scared.
00:51:54
It all kind of added to it.
00:51:56
I mean, I don't think this is giving me any nightmares, but it was spooky.
00:52:01
That's fair.
00:52:02
How sexy did you think it was?
00:52:04
I also gave it a 2 .5.
00:52:07
For witches.
00:52:10
Just the idea of witches.
00:52:13
And then the naked flying and the little seance with your witchy friends.
00:52:19
Yep.
00:52:20
Yeah, it was a little horny.
00:52:22
What can I say?
00:52:24
It was.
00:52:25
What did you give it?
00:52:27
I also gave it a 2 .5.
00:52:29
Okay.
00:52:31
Yeah, witches?
00:52:33
Yeah.
00:52:35
Black Phillip in human form?
00:52:37
Yeah.
00:52:40
Yeah.
00:52:42
Everybody go home and Google Daniel Malik.
00:52:45
And well, I think when he filmed this, he was known as Wahab Chaudhry, but now he goes by Daniel Malik.
00:52:52
So look him up.
00:52:53
Very attractive man.
00:52:55
Do yourself a favor and Google that man, cuz...
00:53:01
You will not be disappointed.
00:53:03
he did not have enough screen time.
00:53:05
I...
00:53:07
if there's one place the lighting could have been better, it's that scene.
00:53:11
Oh yeah.
00:53:17
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:53:19
I gave it
00:53:20
a 1 .5.
00:53:22
For the baby in the mortar and pestle.
00:53:25
Look at me, learning.
00:53:27
And then, I can be taught.
00:53:31
Not easily.
00:53:33
Also kind of the crow on - the breastfeeding of the crow.
00:53:37
That was a little bit.
00:53:38
Alright, that was wild.
00:53:41
But yeah, just a 1 .5.
00:53:43
What about you?
00:53:45
I gave it a 2 for the baby smoothie.
00:53:50
Yeah.
00:53:52
Yeah, no that was terrible.
00:53:53
I hated every second of that.
00:53:54
It's funny you should mention the raven on the boob though.
00:53:57
That didn't bother me at all.
00:53:59
I thought that was kind of fun.
00:54:02
I didn't think it was fucked up.
00:54:03
I was just like, okay.
00:54:04
think a crow eating out your skin is a little fucked up?
00:54:07
Not my boob skin.
00:54:08
If it has to eat skin, it should take it from the boob, yeah.
00:54:12
Okay.
00:54:13
I don't want an animal eating away at my skin, period.
00:54:16
But I thought that scene was sick.
00:54:20
It was just also, you know, a little fucked up.
00:54:22
Yeah, I didn't think it was, okay.
00:54:25
I still give it higher for you, but only for the baby.
00:54:28
yeah, the baby that was a lot for you.
00:54:31
Yeah.
00:54:33
Overall.
00:54:36
Overall, this movie slaps.
00:54:39
The attention to detail and the lore are just incredible.
00:54:42
And I love the idea that it was written to be interpreted literally or figuratively.
00:54:51
And that it worked.
00:54:55
Like thinking back like, yeah, that could absolutely have been interpreted literally or figuratively.
00:54:59
I don't think it's a perfect movie because I don't know that it really like
00:55:06
push the envelope at all.
00:55:07
And think even Eggers had said that, that, you know, in order to get it sold or like in order to get a witch movie attention, he like really had to tone it down a little bit.
00:55:20
I think had he gone balls to the wall, this could have been a five.
00:55:24
Some more scenes like the bird eating the tit and the witch drinking the blood, but also a tit.
00:55:34
Why is everybody sucking on tits in this movie?
00:55:37
I'm not mad at it.
00:55:40
Anyway, but as it stands, it was a really beautiful film, incredible acting, lots of fun animals, and it totally transports you to 1630.
00:55:50
It was so authentic.
00:55:51
Well, not that I know anything about the 1630s, but it felt very authentic and well researched at the very least.
00:55:58
Like the dialogue and the costumes and all that.
00:56:00
Anyway, all that was so well done.
00:56:02
So I gave it a four.
00:56:06
Four out of five.
00:56:07
Yeah.
00:56:09
How about you?
00:56:12
Yeah, I also think this movie slaps.
00:56:14
I think it's just - there's a beauty in the kind of simplicity of it, right?
00:56:18
It's definitely a slow burn.
00:56:21
And I could see, I remember the first time I watched it, I was kind of like, that was alright.
00:56:25
I liked it a lot more this time, which I'm glad that this is an opportunity for me to rewatch these movies too, because sometimes I'm just not in the right head space to watch
00:56:34
a movie that I do.
00:56:36
Like I think I said, the first time I watched The Cabin in the Woods, I was like, okay.
00:56:40
No, I fucking love that movie.
00:56:42
I don't know what I was thinking the first time I saw it.
00:56:45
I was.
00:56:46
And I was wrong about this one too.
00:56:47
Like back then I probably would have given it like a three.
00:56:50
But now I'm like, this movie's fantastic.
00:56:54
Classic good for her type of movie, you know what I'm saying?
00:56:58
Very girly pop.
00:56:59
And for that reason, I give it a 4 .5.
00:57:04
Yeah.
00:57:05
I originally had it at a 4 .5.
00:57:07
Yeah, knocked it down a little bit.
00:57:10
Yeah.
00:57:10
there were just some opportunities, but not a lot of them.
00:57:14
That's fair.
00:57:14
Cute.
00:57:15
Look at us go!
00:57:17
This movie rips.
00:57:19
Yeah, me more so because I kind of nailed it with my score, but...
00:57:22
Yeah.
00:57:24
It's like you did it on purpose.
00:57:27
I didn't, but I rated mine on Letterboxd before I even pulled up the Rotten Tomatoes to write it all down.
00:57:36
So what you're telling me is that I should go to Letterboxd after right before we're about to film so that I know exactly what you rated it so that I can then rate it the same or
00:57:43
higher.
00:57:44
do that, then I'm going to have to start rating it after we do it.
00:57:49
Well, some of them I already have rated but, that we haven't watched it.
00:57:53
But no, don't look.
00:57:58
Don't cheat.
00:58:01
No, cheating.
00:58:02
The joy is that different people have different opinions about things.
00:58:06
If we write it the same every time, it's not going to be fun.
00:58:09
I think that sounds like fun, but...
00:58:14
No, you got so much joy out of yelling at me for liking The Menu.
00:58:20
Yeah.
00:58:21
Great film.
00:58:22
Anyways, would you survive The Witch?
00:58:26
No.
00:58:28
No, I'm not surviving The Witch.
00:58:30
I would have died of starvation months before this was even filmed.
00:58:35
Or this even took place.
00:58:37
Okay, you don't think your family would help you?
00:58:39
I don't think that they had the means to provide what I need,
00:58:44
Okay, yeah.
00:58:45
to be able to survive.
00:58:47
Got it.
00:58:49
And you know, I'm just not living in the 1630s.
00:58:53
Well, I think in this scenario, just, you don't have a choice.
00:58:56
You're there, so.
00:58:58
Well if I was living in the 1630s it wouldn't be for long.
00:59:03
Okay, but you wouldn't know what you're missing.
00:59:07
I guess.
00:59:08
I just don't think there's enough stimulation for my little pea brain.
00:59:12
Yeah, you think you would just know in your heart that you're supposed to have an iPhone?
00:59:19
Yeah.
00:59:20
You don't even have an iPhone.
00:59:22
Yeah, a Google Pixel 8 Pro.
00:59:27
With the good camera.
00:59:32
Yeah.
00:59:34
Alright, RIP!
00:59:37
Thanks.
00:59:37
Are you alive?
00:59:39
I think so.
00:59:42
You're becoming a witch.
00:59:44
Yeah, I'm either Thomasin and if my whole family's dead, sure, I'll be a witch, that's fine with me.
00:59:50
Or else, if you interpret it not so literally, then my family's not religious, so...
00:59:55
No religious psychosis for us!
00:59:57
But you're not putting your whole family into the movie, you're putting you into the movie.
01:00:05
I'm not religious, so.
01:00:06
That's kind of what got Thomasin in that mess.
01:00:09
Yeah, and she lives, so.
01:00:11
I guess that's true.
01:00:13
I win.
01:00:13
But yeah, I would become a witch if my whole family died.
01:00:16
Why not?
01:00:18
Yeah, why not.
01:00:19
Wailing in the woods?
01:00:21
Naked with my gal pals?
01:00:23
Wailing.
01:00:23
My god, every movie I want to be a part of is just women wailing.
01:00:26
That's crazy.
01:00:27
I guess I have a thing.
01:00:33
Screaming with my gal pals.
01:00:37
Nothing.
01:00:37
Not one thing.
01:00:38
Yeah.
01:00:39
Around a fire.
01:00:41
With marshmallows.
01:00:42
10 outta 10.
01:00:43
Mm
01:00:45
Big fan.
01:00:45
Cool, well.
01:00:49
Next week I think you've already seen most of the movie so - I don't think you finished it.
01:00:58
Yeah, yeah next week we are gonna talk about Speak No Evil and the remake that is in theaters now if you're listening to this I think.
01:01:12
What day does this episode come out?
01:01:14
Well, I think it - doesn't it come out tomorrow?
01:01:17
No.
01:01:19
No, I think it comes out the 13th.
01:01:22
And we're filming this on the 5th, but this comes out the 17th.
01:01:26
So yes, it just came out this past weekend.
01:01:28
Go see it now so that next week when we talk about it, you're in the know.
01:01:33
Yeah, and watch the original one too, the foreign language one.
01:01:37
the original.
01:01:38
If you watch either of the two, watch the original.
01:01:42
Yeah.
01:01:44
I mean, to be clear, Cassidy has no reason that she's telling you that.
01:01:48
I have no reason except I've seen the trailer and I can already tell they fucked it up.
01:01:52
So.
01:01:53
Yep.
01:01:57
But yes, we're gonna be talking about that.
01:02:00
As excited as I am to see the goat man from Narnia play the Big Bad in a unnecessary American remake of a foreign film.
01:02:15
that's mostly in English.
01:02:17
The original.
01:02:19
No reason for this to be remade.
01:02:22
But yeah, if you want to watch Mr.
01:02:24
Tumnus pop his puss, go see the remake too.
01:02:28
In addition to the original, everyone needs to go watch the original.
01:02:32
And then meet back here next week and we'll all talk about it, except not, because we're just going to talk at you, because that's how a podcast works.
01:02:40
well, I mean, they can comment and subscribe and like and comment below.
01:02:44
and tell us what sports you want to hear us talk about next.
01:02:48
Yeah.
01:02:49
Give us your favorite sports fact and we'll dissect it.
01:02:53
yeah, I...
01:02:55
Any sports fact is probably a new fact for me, so it'll be really fun.
01:03:02
No, tell us your favorite sports team named after a bird, and then we'll decide if it's a dumb name and they should change it, or if it's a good name and they can keep it.
01:03:14
Yeah.
01:03:15
Hell yeah, brother.
01:03:17
Hell yeah, brother!
01:03:22
Thanks for listening to...
01:03:26
yeah, they don't get better, that's for fucking sure.
01:03:28
But thanks for listening to the Baller Cuties.
01:03:31
We'll see you on Tuesday, next Tuesday.
01:03:33
See you next Tuesday, cunts.
01:03:37
There it is.
01:03:38
Bye.
01:03:38
Bye.