Cuckoo, a horror film from Neon and Tilman Singer starring Hunter Schafer and Dan Stevens, is in theaters now! It follows 17-year-old Gretchen who moves to the German Alps with her father to discover her family is part of a secret plot to save a dangerous subhuman species. We explain the film, dive into some fun production and cast facts, and even explain the parallels between the film and the real life parasitic cuckoo birds that Tilman Singer took inspo from.
Horror News
👉 Session 9 from Brad Anderson getting a novel: https://www.joblo.com/session-9-novelization/
👉 Hayden Panettiere and Tyler James Williams Amber Alert trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0cEoamaR6U
👉 Iconic house from Poltergeist on sale in Simi Valley: https://www.realtor.com/news/unique-homes/poltergeist-house-creeps-onto-the-market/
👉 Fede Alvarez teases potential new Alien vs. Predator with Dan Tratchenberg: https://deadline.com/2024/08/alien-romulus-fede-alvarez-alien-vs-predator-movie-1236042592/
Next Week
In this episode, kd guesses the plot of American Mary (incorrectly): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJtVBD6DlX8
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Hello.
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Hi.
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Welcome back to Killer Cuties Podcast.
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That's us.
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Happy Tuesday.
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Happy Tuesday.
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We're here to talk about Cuckoo.
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But first, news.
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News!
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And like current news too.
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We filmed so much in advance and now we're both back from vacation.
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We can stay hip with the times now.
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Love that for us.
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Me too.
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I go first.
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I've decided.
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First little bit of news from me.
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If you like to read, Brad Anderson's cult classic film, Session 9 is getting a novelization and it's supposed to release on October 4th.
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Just in time for Halloween.
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Yeah, well.
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I feel like they've done that before.
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Something else just got a novelization too and I can't remember what it was, but it's irrelevant because that's not my news.
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This is my news.
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Anyways, it's going to be done by Christian Anderson, who's also done novelizations for Wishmaster, Creature, and Vamp.
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If you haven't seen Session 9 or if you don't want to watch it, but you're interested in the book,
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here's a little thing about the plot.
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Tensions rise within an asbestos cleaning crew as they work in an abandoned mental hospital with a horrific past that seems to be coming back.
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I've seen the movie.
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I enjoyed it.
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I'd love to read more about it.
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I think they're going to delve into the world a little bit more and kind of explore it.
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So it should be cool.
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Yeah.
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For me, Hayden Panettiere - was that how you say her name?
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Hayden Panettiere?
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Okay.
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And Tyler James Williams are starring in a horror movie called Amber Alert that's coming out next month, September, 2024.
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And a trailer has just dropped for it.
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We will link it into the description.
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But apparently this movie will show us what happens when an ordinary ride share becomes a high stakes game of cat and mouse.
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Uber horror movie.
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Yeah
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Gosh, I bet a kid goes missing.
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Otherwise, why would they name it like that?
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Yeah, I bet the parents, Hayden and Tyler, order an Uber for their kid.
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And then they're gone.
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Later, kid.
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Yikes.
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Like that movie Greenland.
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No, not Greenland.
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There's a movie where they take a kid in a car and they're like, maybe it is Greenland.
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I don't remember.
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You remember Greenland?
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It's got, it's end of the world meteors with Gerard Butler, I think.
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and they steal a kid in the end of the world?
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Don't they have more important things going on?
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crossing like four or five different movies.
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Okay.
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You ever seen Taken?
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No, actually.
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You should look up the compilation of the daughter running.
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That's my favorite part.
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Aww.
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Lost on the track, if you know what I mean.
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That girl's never ran in her life.
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In his defense, I think it's other people getting taken in the sequels, but.
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so she runs stupid that many times in one movie?
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my god.
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It's every time she runs, it's so bad.
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Just flailing.
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Let's watch Taken instead.
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Okay.
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No, okay.
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Little other piece of news from me.
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Relevant - Because Alien: Romulus is in theaters right now.
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You can go see it.
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But Fede Álvarez, the director of Alien: Romulus, has teased a different way to expand the universe.
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The Alien Universe.
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Yeah, another Predator crossover.
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He said, maybe it's something I have to co -direct with my buddy Dan, meaning Dan Trachtenberg, who directed Prey of the Predator series.
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Yeah, and he apparently said that they should do like what Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez did for Dusk Till Dawn, where like one directs half and the other directs the other half.
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So he said, I don't know, if people want to see it, you know, we'll have to see how well Alien: Romulus does, but it's doing well at the theater, so I don't know.
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If he can convince Dan, maybe that's something we'll get.
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I'd watch anything from Fede Álvarez, so I'm in.
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As long as they name it, Too Alien: Too Predator.
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Absolutely.
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Alienator X.
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Yeah.
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Last one for me.
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Last one from us.
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Yeah.
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Bye, later.
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The house from Poltergeist is up for sale in the Simi Valley for the first time in over 45 years.
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I know the movie came out in 1982, so it hasn't been sold since the movie came out.
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It's a four bedroom, two bath, 2300 square foot home on a pretty big lot.
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And all things consider, it's only going for 1 .1 million.
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So really not, I mean, that's a lot of money, but not for a house in California.
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That's nothing.
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So if I had to guess, I don't, yeah.
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I don't think that they really factored in the like pop culture aspect at all.
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I think that they're, I don't think that they're banking on making any more money because it's the Poltergeist house, which is kind of sad.
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I don't believe that.
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I feel like they could make a lot of money.
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I would think so.
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Mmm, I feel like a bidding war is in their future.
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Yeah, I mean, I hope so for their sake because 1 .1 seems underpriced.
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for a house that's as iconic as that.
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Hmm.
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Well, you heard it here first.
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You can go buy the Poltergeist house for a cool 1 .1 mil.
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Yeah.
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If anybody has one of that 1 .1 and they want to go in with me on it.
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Yeah.
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Just kidding.
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I probably don't even have that much.
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If you have the 1 .1 million and a spare bedroom, kd will go in on it with you.
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I love it.
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Thanks.
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All right.
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What are we here for?
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We're here to talk about Cuckoo, which is also a new movie in theaters now.
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Go see it.
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Well, no, listen to this and then go see it.
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There we go.
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Well, no.
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Yeah.
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Go see it and then come back.
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Press pause right now.
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Go to the theater.
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Watch it.
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Come back and press play again.
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There we go.
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I nailed it.
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Got there eventually.
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Okay.
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A little, we're going to start spoiling it now.
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So now's your chance to pause.
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Okay.
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A little overview of the plot, 17 year old Gretchen reluctantly leaves America to live with her father at a resort in the German Alps.
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Plagued by strange noises and bloody vision, she soon discovers a shocking secret that concerns her own family.
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That's from Google.
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It was written and directed by Tillman Singer and stars Hunter Schafer as Gretchen and Dan Stevens as Dr.
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Konig?
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Yeah.
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It had a budget of seven million.
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So far, it's made 4 .5 million at the box office.
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It's got a 78 % critic score and a 61 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes and a 6 .4 on IMDb right now.
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That's what we're looking at.
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Wow.
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On IMDb?
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No, it's earned so far.
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I did see 4 .5, but I also, another source told me 5 .5.
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just refreshed Wikipedia and it went up to 5 .4.
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There you go.
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It's making millions as we speak.
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yeah.
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All right.
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Well, there we go.
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So yeah, obviously it's still opening weekend, still making money.
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I didn't recognize Dan Stevens, but when I realized that that was his name, I was like, my God, that sounds really familiar.
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How do I know Dan Stevens?
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It's because I listened to the song Evermore, Evermore from the 2017 live action remake of Beauty and the Beast all the time.
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And he plays the beast and sings that song.
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In Beauty and the Beast?
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Yes, the live -action remake from 2017.
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With what's her nut?
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Huh.
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Yeah.
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I saw that once.
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Well, there you go.
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I didn't recognize him from that either, but I saw that once and never again.
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So it didn't really stick.
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I recognize him from The Guest.
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Another horror thriller.
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He's in Downton Abbey too, I think, right?
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I don't know, I've never seen Downton Abbey.
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Me neither but I'm pretty sure he's in that.
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Lots of people have seen that.
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He was also an Abigail.
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So I recognize him from that.
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Just, just now, just, just right now he was in it.
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so yeah, he's been in a few things here and there that I've seen him in that I enjoyed.
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He really kind of got to go balls to the wall in this one, huh?
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Yeah.
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Weird little dude.
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Yeah, I liked it.
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I did, I liked him playing the flute, playing this little flute.
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He did play the flute a lot.
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Walking us around with his...
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That's what Hunter Schafer said was her favorite part about filming, was whenever Dan would pull out his little flute.
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Which sounds a lot hornier than it is.
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Yeah, it was just an actual flute.
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Dan Stevens wasn't gonna be in it originally though.
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Yeah, John Malkovich was originally cast.
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Yep.
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John Malkovich.
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So wait a minute!
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Yeah, he was originally cast in the role and then he dropped out like last minute really due to just like timing issues because I think that like they kept getting pushed back and
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stuff.
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Yeah, was supposed to come out in May.
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Yeah, well, production got pushed back and then also release got pushed back.
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So this is actually Hunter Schafer's first film, even though it came out after Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes and after Kinds of Kindness, too.
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That just came out and she was in that.
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But filmed this first.
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But yeah, so John Malkovich was originally supposed to be in it.
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Gemma Chan was supposed to be in it.
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And Sofia Boutella was supposed to be in it as well.
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gosh.
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they all had to drop out due to timing issues.
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But the one we know for certain, who they were supposed to play, is John Malkovich.
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He was supposed to be Dr.
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Konig.
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And then, yeah, basically Dan Stevens and Tilman Singer worked together to kind of revamp the character a little bit because obviously he was not the same guy that John Malkovich
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was gonna be playing.
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But yeah, I think it would have been an interesting version with him in it.
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I like him.
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What's your favorite John Malkovich role?
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I don't know, I'd have to look them up and like, let me look, let me look, let me look, let me look.
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well now that you're looking I bet you could guess mine.
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What is it?
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Avatar?
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I don't know if - he wasn't in that, he?
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I'm not seeing a movie that sticks out as like a kd movie.
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I'm probably too far up.
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I gotta scroll back.
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Yeah, yeah, it's older.
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It's older.
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shit.
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it.
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Say it.
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Is it Transformers?
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No, I forgot he was in that.
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No, it's not.
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But I do love that movie.
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I was like, fuck, here we go again.
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I forgot he was in those.
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Before that.
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Okay.
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Let me make sure it's him.
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I'm not seeing one that fully sticks out as a kd movie.
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He was in Changeling.
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That might be mine.
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Changeling's a good movie.
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Are you just looking at his Google?
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No, I'm looking at his IMDb.
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It's pretty early on his list of Google movies.
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And it's not Penguins of Madagascar, before you ask.
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he's even credited in Cuckoo, according to Google.
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Mm
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I don't know.
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Do I not know?
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Is it Johnny English?
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That feels like something you would like.
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No, I'll just tell you.
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He plays King Galbatorix in Eragon.
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See, that's how you know that Google changes based on who you are as a person.
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Because that is not early on in these things for me.
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It's like the fifth or sixth row.
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Okay.
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It's after Penguins of Madagascar.
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Okay, thought it would be before.
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Alright, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is really good too.
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That's a good one.
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Great guy.
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Well, actor.
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I don't know him personally, but one day.
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I hope so too.
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Anyway, glad Dan Stevens got the role.
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A little bummed that it wasn't John Malkovich.
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Yeah, I think John Malkovich would have done a fantastic job.
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It would have been a very different character and Dan Stevens did a fine job.
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He was great to watch.
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A delight, a joy, if you will.
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Yes, he and Hunter Schafer carried.
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Yeah, they were both fantastic.
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Very good.
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was.
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Hahaha.
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Them.
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Them.
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The most.
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You know who my favorite character was?
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Couldn't tell ya.
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The bird?
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Okay.
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It was the dog that they forgot in the car, let out, and then you never saw again.
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I think they forgot they had a dog in one scene.
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Yeah.
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That was the wildest part.
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I kept thinking, when's this dog gonna come into play?
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Never did.
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You never see it again.
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One scene.
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That was weird.
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did.
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It did build a little bit of tension because it was like barking or whatever at the bird.
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But that's why I was like, this dog's gonna sense when shit's getting weird.
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Nope, never see it again.
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Also, that was spoiled for me in the Does the Dog Die?
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It literally just said there's a dog inexplicably in the first scene of the movie that you never see again.
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You never see it.
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Yeah, it does not die.
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It comes out of a car and that's it.
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And that's literally it.
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forget it in the car and then they forget that they put it in the movie.
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That's the whole journey of that dog.
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Yeah, I like got done with the movie and was like, wasn't there a dog?
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What happened to that?
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That's weird.
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Yeah, whatever.
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What is this movie?
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Sci -fi thriller?
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No?
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What would you say?
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I mean I would I would put horror
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Yeah, I was thinking like subgenre.
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So what we do here every week is that we're a horror movie podcast.
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So I think horror is a given.
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Yeah, thank you.
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Well, yeah, I thought it was implied, but that's my bad.
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I'll clarify next time.
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It's on me.
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I only specifically call out that I think it's horror because, I mean, a lot of the cast did not feel like it was horror because they had a super happy, fun time filming their
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scenes.
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Yeah, the actress who played Beatrix specifically was like, there was nothing horror about anything that I did, so it didn't feel like it.
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And then the...
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I forget his name, who played the dad,
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Mm
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also said he more saw it as a psychological drama.
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So then the whole cast and everybody was arguing about what genre it is.
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Tillman Singer confirmed four things.
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Horror, psychological drama, coming of age sci -fi.
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Love that.
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Mm -hmm.
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And all true.
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All true.
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You know when you get like prepped for a sneeze and then it just doesn't.
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It fucking embarrasses you.
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That's what just happened there.
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be.
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I'm never showing my face in this town again.
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I would agree.
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Coming of age.
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I don't think I would like think of this as a coming of age, but I get it, I guess.
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Just because she's 17 in the movie doesn't mean it's a coming -of -age movie.
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I agree.
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I don't think it's - we're really watching her come to age.
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I think there's other things that she's dealing with.
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Yeah.
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Well, to be fair, she does hate the sister towards the beginning and then is responsible, essentially for the sister towards the end.
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That's age coming of
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that's more like a family dynamic within the film rather than like a full -on genre.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Well, Tillman Singer disagrees.
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Sorry, Singer.
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I say no.
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Hahaha.
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He did say though, when he wrote this movie, one, he saw a documentary about cuckoo birds and that triggered it, right?
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Because obviously that's like a whole central thing of this.
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He wanted to project that onto humans.
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And originally he said he wanted to go more of like a Rosemary's Baby route and go from the point of view of the mother, that was like housing-
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Well, so, so like Rosemary's baby, I think you can assume like it's her baby, right?
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So like, yeah, so it's about a woman and a baby.
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So that was the route he was gonna go was a mom's point of view.
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So like the host basically.
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But then he thought it would be much like worse to be a sibling in the nest, where like you have this weird thing.
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He's like, that's more interesting.
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So let's go with that.
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And I think that that's interesting.
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He also said he thought about Neanderthals a lot.
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Can't say I got that.
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I'll get there.
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Ready?
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We're going to connect the dots.
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So he said, because it was like a different species of humans that lived side by side, like coexisted, crossbred at some point, and then for whatever reason went extinct.
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And so in his idea, he was like, what if in this world we had a separate species of humans, they just didn't go extinct.
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And that's kind of what the like cuckoo monster is in this.
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Which I think is interesting that he kind of views it possibly as just like a divergence of a human instead of a full -blown monster.
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Yeah, it's just a subspecies of homo sapien.
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I thought that was interesting.
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That is interesting.
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Did you go down the cuckoo rabbit hole like I did?
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I didn't, because you know what I thought?
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I thought that's birds.
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That's kd.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, more notes that I - all the notes I took are about the birds.
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I'm obsessed with that.
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Please tell me about the birds.
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I will.
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I just highlighted the stuff that I was like, that's in the movie.
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You know?
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Okay.
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So first thing I learned about cuckoos, roadrunners are part of the cuckoo family.
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That's super interesting.
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Bet you didn't know that.
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They're not one of the parasitic cuckoos, which only a small portion of the cuckoo family are parasitic.
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So, okay, I'm just gonna start at the top.
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So some...
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Cuckoos lay eggs in communal nests and like everyone shares responsibility with building the nest.
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Yeah, incubating, rearing the young, defending the nest.
00:22:09
But a lot of the times in those large groups, some of the females would be like, I'm the macho female and she kills everybody else's babies.
00:22:17
And then everybody raises the one female's babies.
00:22:22
Okay.
00:22:24
That's less.
00:22:25
At first I was like, like it takes a village and that, okay.
00:22:30
Yeah, it takes a village to raise the one cuckoo's babies, but.
00:22:34
a village that she's gonna murder.
00:22:37
Love that.
00:22:38
So 60 species of cuckoos are the obligate brood parasites that are kind of like reflected in the movie.
00:22:46
Meaning they reproduce only by laying their eggs in other birds nests.
00:22:51
And then those host birds rear the young.
00:22:57
Their eggs have naturally selected to be thicker than other
00:23:03
birds.
00:23:04
Well, okay, so that's a whole other thing.
00:23:05
There's like this arms race between the host species and the parasitic species.
00:23:12
Because the host species is like, you know, we got to figure out a way to not be tricked by these parasites and the parasites are like, they're on to us.
00:23:20
So they're just, you know, they're both fighting basically trying to like out evolve each other.
00:23:28
And scientists say that eventually this like constant battle of
00:23:31
adaptation and counter adaptation, somebody's gonna win, which is actually gonna make them both lose.
00:23:36
okay, so then the other thing, the cuckoo eggs hatch earlier.
00:23:40
The mom cuckoo keeps the egg inside her extra long.
00:23:47
It bakes inside a little bit longer than it needs to so that when she lays the eggs, they're guaranteed to be the first that hatch.
00:23:53
So they may get the nutrients first from the host mother, right?
00:23:57
And then those baby cuckoos kick the hatched host
00:24:02
babies out of the nest.
00:24:05
Like how they know how to do that though?
00:24:07
Natural selection.
00:24:08
So like a baby just knows that's crazy human babies don't know shit
00:24:14
Human babies know how to swim.
00:24:15
That's impressive.
00:24:16
But they just came from like water, so...
00:24:20
They should.
00:24:21
I like that though, you can see that parallel in the film for sure.
00:24:26
Cause they even talk about how Alma like ate her twin in the womb.
00:24:29
She was taking them resources.
00:24:35
That's what it sounds like when a baby eats the twin in the womb.
00:24:37
I don't know if you knew that.
00:24:41
Yeah, you're welcome.
00:24:47
I that.
00:24:47
read a lot of, like Reddit threads and stuff about the movie.
00:24:54
Just I'd like to, I - I like to hear what people think, you know, what questions people had, you know, answers, theories.
00:25:03
Media literacy is dead.
00:25:04
A lot of people were like, there's so many plot holes in this.
00:25:07
And then they just say things that like they said in the movie.
00:25:09
I was like, well, I don't, I don't think you were watching.
00:25:15
Hmm.
00:25:16
I don't think people know what a plot hole is.
00:25:17
A plot hole isn't something that you don't understand.
00:25:21
It's just, yeah.
00:25:24
But that's fine.
00:25:24
There was a lot about Alma and Dan Stevens' character too.
00:25:28
Why is he doing this?
00:25:29
I'm like, do you know how many people like dedicate their whole life to preserving species?
00:25:34
That's not that big of a stretch.
00:25:37
I hate unanswered questions and things, like, especially if it feels like you didn't like know what you were doing.
00:25:41
I'm not gonna fault this movie for that.
00:25:43
There's other things I'm gonna fault it for, but not that.
00:25:46
I think the people that don't like this movie were thinking too fucking hard.
00:25:51
I do think that there are other issues that this movie has, which we can get into if you'd like, but I don't think like...
00:25:57
I mean, the plot wasn't like super tight, but I think you could like reasonably deduce some of the things that these people were asking about.
00:26:05
But I will say, Tillman Singer said himself that for Cuckoo it was about creating an atmosphere instead of having a super concrete plot that makes a lot of sense.
00:26:13
And I think that's fair.
00:26:14
It's not a super concrete plot that makes a lot of sense.
00:26:17
And that's okay.
00:26:21
But some of the things are not plot holes.
00:26:24
You just weren't listening.
00:26:26
And that's okay too.
00:26:28
Yeah, if anything, I feel like they over explained some things.
00:26:31
Really?
00:26:32
Like some of the sciency stuff was a little over explained.
00:26:34
I just didn't need it.
00:26:37
What I wish had happened?
00:26:40
What I wish had happened was I wish they had put like, maybe somebody was watching a documentary about cuckoos or like gave people that context at the beginning, as opposed to
00:26:50
just like, here's a cuckoo, you already know what that's about.
00:26:54
Because some people don't.
00:26:55
Well, there's a section in the movie where he talks about them.
00:26:59
But it doesn't really go into detail.
00:27:01
He talks about how they like choose someone else's nest and put their young in there.
00:27:05
I missed that.
00:27:09
Hahaha
00:27:09
Nope.
00:27:10
Nobody's paying attention after this movie.
00:27:13
Clearly.
00:27:15
Yeah.
00:27:16
Yeah.
00:27:21
That's funny.
00:27:23
Also, I guess in early festival reviews, people were calling this "2024's Hereditary".
00:27:32
Calm down.
00:27:36
Again, he said it's not about the plot.
00:27:39
I not to like
00:27:40
ride it for a second, but Ari Aster's writing is like tight.
00:27:45
Like that man does not include unnecessary details.
00:27:49
Everything has its meaning, everything has its purpose, everything comes back around.
00:27:55
Like he has very well structured plots, whether or not you like the movies themselves.
00:28:00
You can't say that that's not tight, tight writing.
00:28:04
I don't think this movie had that.
00:28:07
But Tillman Singer also disagreed.
00:28:10
He was like, I don't want people to call it that.
00:28:12
I want them to call it 2024's film that young people managed to sneak into and see too early.
00:28:18
Which I think is funny.
00:28:19
He's like, no, no, underage kids should absolutely go see this movie.
00:28:24
I like that.
00:28:25
Yeah, that's cute.
00:28:28
Yeah, it's not, I mean, yeah.
00:28:31
It's not, it's not Hereditary.
00:28:34
It's not Hereditary.
00:28:35
But it's a film.
00:28:38
It is a film.
00:28:39
there are some family elements.
00:28:42
Sure, yeah.
00:28:43
That...
00:28:43
Yeah.
00:28:44
They both have that.
00:28:46
Absolutely.
00:28:47
Even at its core, they're not even close to being the same.
00:28:49
Hereditary is supernatural, possession.
00:28:53
This is not.
00:28:55
I think they meant it more of like, not like it's the same, but more of like a, like that elevated horror, caliber level type horror.
00:29:06
You know what I mean?
00:29:07
even think this is elevated horror.
00:29:10
I don't either personally.
00:29:12
It's horror.
00:29:14
It is...
00:29:15
Listen, it's horror!
00:29:20
Contrary to what some of the actors will tell you.
00:29:23
Yeah.
00:29:25
Well, I think at the point that they had said that, they hadn't seen it yet.
00:29:29
Which is crazy.
00:29:30
You'd think they'd be the first people to see it.
00:29:32
like you were there when like the goo and stuff was happening, right?
00:29:37
Like that alone, I feel like is.
00:29:39
And the bike scene all shot practically.
00:29:42
They didn't add that in.
00:29:44
So, yeah, I liked that scene a lot.
00:29:46
I almost wish that wasn't in the trailers.
00:29:51
Singer said that they had about four and a half hours of nighttime to work with.
00:29:54
The cinematographer had done like a 3D scenario so they could map out how far the street lamps needed to be for it to work.
00:30:04
They had to get like heavy duty street lamps because the original ones weren't lighting it
00:30:08
properly, so they had to get like stronger ones.
00:30:12
And then Kalin Morrow, who plays like the mother, like the hooded woman lady, she was actually just running behind Hunter Schafer while they filmed that, like it's all done
00:30:22
practically.
00:30:23
They shot that and that's what they used.
00:30:26
And I appreciate that.
00:30:27
Yeah.
00:30:29
It's crazy.
00:30:30
It is, yeah.
00:30:32
That was my favorite scene.
00:30:35
Yeah, absolutely.
00:30:38
Just goes to show.
00:30:38
Practical.
00:30:40
Just, god, I'll cream in my jeans for the practical effects, you know what I'm saying?
00:30:45
Yeah.
00:30:46
Most of the film was not filmed in the mountains at all either.
00:30:51
Which is sad, because it's beautiful.
00:30:53
Yeah, that was all digitally enhanced.
00:30:56
But they did do a few scenes in the mountains towards the end of filming.
00:31:00
But yeah, I that was interesting that they barely were up there.
00:31:03
Yeah.
00:31:04
That was another thing that a lot of people were like, why would you have like these gorgeous sets, like this gorgeous backdrop and then have the final act take place in this
00:31:13
like stale ass hospital?
00:31:17
Especially when it seems like this creature thrives in the wilderness.
00:31:22
So they were like, it's the perfect excuse to do that.
00:31:24
And then they chose like this ugly backdrop for the finale.
00:31:29
yeah, like a forest chase scene would have been fun and cutesy.
00:31:33
Yeah.
00:31:33
No.
00:31:34
Hospital shootout with two people with the worst aim in the whole world.
00:31:37
Yeah, the shootout - was that necessary?
00:31:39
I mean, I get it, but.
00:31:40
I'm still confused because there were so many moments in this that were almost goofy.
00:31:48
Goofy?
00:31:49
Not in like a bad way, like them just like shooting at each other like making jokes and like him laughing when like the wig gets thrown and stuff like it was just kind of like a
00:32:00
little bit silly and they didn't lean into that like they just took itself - I think it took itself a little too seriously.
00:32:07
Okay.
00:32:08
I mean there were a few places where I laughed.
00:32:10
Yeah, but then I feel like some of those moments felt a little bit out of place because they were taking it so seriously.
00:32:17
Okay.
00:32:17
That's a fair observation.
00:32:19
Thank you.
00:32:20
I don't agree with you, but okay.
00:32:23
It is fair.
00:32:25
Yeah.
00:32:29
Also for the shooting scenes, Dan Stevens in an interview, he talked about how when they were shooting this, was the like right in the aftermath of the Rust tragedy, tragedy,
00:32:42
sorry.
00:32:46
Yeah, but that's like how long - they filmed this a while ago.
00:32:51
And so he told Singer when he joined, he was like, I'm not working on set with any...
00:32:58
live guns.
00:32:59
Like there's just no reason for it at this point.
00:33:01
Like you can enhance anything digitally after the fact.
00:33:04
There's no reason to use live guns.
00:33:07
And he's right.
00:33:09
And Singer honored that.
00:33:10
But apparently it did make it a little bit more difficult because Singer, a fan of practical effects, wanted the like muzzle flash.
00:33:17
And a lot of fake guns don't do that.
00:33:19
So it was like he had to search for a long time, but eventually they were able to find some that had the flash.
00:33:26
Nice.
00:33:26
I figured that would be the easiest thing to add in post.
00:33:29
Yeah, but he didn't like, doesn't like, he likes using posts to enhance.
00:33:35
Yeah, so he wanted that for the thing.
00:33:39
I mean that feels like an enhancement.
00:33:40
You add the...
00:33:42
you add the...
00:33:43
okay well alright well whatever.
00:33:45
At least they were safe about it.
00:33:48
At least he didn't use that as an excuse not to have live guns.
00:33:52
They did not have any live guns on set.
00:33:54
Yeah.
00:33:55
I appreciate that.
00:33:56
We also learned from this movie that Hunter Schafer is musically talented.
00:34:01
I mean, I didn't know that.
00:34:02
Maybe other people knew that.
00:34:04
But she wrote the bass lines for the score and she helped write the song that she's listening to that's from like her band or whatever.
00:34:14
And they recorded that in the bathroom of the hotel.
00:34:18
Yeah, and she learned how to play bass for the movie.
00:34:23
Yeah, she didn't previously know.
00:34:25
Okay, so we did learn that she's musically talented from this movie.
00:34:29
she learned that, she learned how to use a butterfly trainer, and she brushed up on her ASL.
00:34:34
Apparently she did know some ASL from when she was in school.
00:34:37
But yeah, apparently the song that Singer wanted for that was too expensive, they couldn't get it, so he worked with her and the composer to write that song.
00:34:50
I know.
00:34:52
It came out good.
00:34:53
Well, came out well.
00:34:54
I have a butterfly knife.
00:34:56
Well, no I don't.
00:34:57
I have a butterfly knife trainer.
00:34:58
I think you can own a butterfly knife in California, but you can't have it in public.
00:35:02
Like, you can have one in your possession in your home, but you can't have it anywhere else.
00:35:06
And I don't think you can sell them.
00:35:08
It's like, yeah.
00:35:11
But I do have the trainer, and I know some tricks.
00:35:14
Yeah.
00:35:16
Thank you.
00:35:19
Okay.
00:35:20
It's not that hard.
00:35:21
Well, the ones I know aren't that hard.
00:35:23
And the ones she did in the movie are pretty like simple like rollouts and just like opening and closing maneuvers so it wasn't like...
00:35:31
There's a lot you can learn.
00:35:33
Yeah, that really helped me help like ground her character as a teenager when she was playing with a knife.
00:35:41
feel like, yeah, that's a very teenager thing to do.
00:35:43
She's now 25.
00:35:45
Absolutely.
00:35:46
I think it also kind of made her character just like a little bit more -
00:35:48
Formidable?
00:35:49
No, I was going to say like iconic.
00:35:51
Like I could see people dressing up as her for like Halloween, you know?
00:35:55
Like it's just a very like that's a look that you're going to remember.
00:35:59
Mm -hmm.
00:36:01
I really liked her jacket.
00:36:03
beat the fuck up.
00:36:04
Yeah, was this, when, what year does this take place?
00:36:09
Cause it was not now.
00:36:10
No, I mean, it felt very like 80s to me.
00:36:13
Yeah, I was gonna say like late 80s, early 90s was what it felt.
00:36:18
But I was trying to look up like when it was supposed to be set and I couldn't find anything.
00:36:22
The like architecture is all very like mid century modern.
00:36:26
That's even more confusing, but the clothing was more
00:36:30
The clothing, yes, 80s and 90s, which is why I thought it's just like an outdated motel that they're, you know, because obviously they don't really care about the resort they
00:36:43
care about-
00:36:44
impregnation.
00:36:47
Yeah.
00:36:48
Yeah.
00:36:49
Well, not every movie can put a picture of Bill Clinton on the wall to make you know it's in the 90s.
00:36:54
I just don't know why though.
00:36:56
Why can't...
00:37:00
I want Bill Clinton in every movie set in the 90s.
00:37:05
It's a simple ask.
00:37:07
I don't understand.
00:37:08
set in the 90s.
00:37:08
There's our answer.
00:37:10
Otherwise, they would have put a picture of Bill Clinton.
00:37:13
it's alright.
00:37:15
Throw Bush on the wall!
00:37:19
This is a Neon movie, like Longlegs.
00:37:23
yeah.
00:37:24
Neon, I think, Tillman Singer even said that he was like absolutely stoked that Neon picked it up because they've been doing like so many cool things lately.
00:37:33
Yeah, I feel like they've been giving A24 a run for their money in terms of horror movies.
00:37:40
Totally.
00:37:40
Come on, Blumhouse, it's just the three of you.
00:37:42
That's so true.
00:37:44
Blumhouse is falling behind.
00:37:45
I keep, cause god damn it, Blumhouse has given us some incredible fucking films.
00:37:52
And every time I'm like, want, I want to believe that they can do it again.
00:37:55
And I do believe, but they're making it harder and harder every time I watch a Blumhouse movie.
00:38:02
Yeah.
00:38:04
Speaking of Blumhouse, except I don't think it's actually Blumhouse.
00:38:07
I saw the like teaser for The Monkey.
00:38:12
That is like all of horror royalty in a movie.
00:38:17
It's Stephen King's short story.
00:38:19
It's James Wan.
00:38:21
I forget who else, but there's a lot of people.
00:38:22
Let me look.
00:38:23
Let me look.
00:38:24
You forgot?
00:38:25
That's crazy you forgot since you just mentioned his movie.
00:38:29
It's directed by Osgood Perkins.
00:38:30
Yeah, it's yeah, it's
00:38:35
I'm just looking it up.
00:38:37
Elijah Wood, Tatiana Maslany, Theo James.
00:38:41
Theo James, yeah, that's who was in the teaser.
00:38:43
Yeah.
00:38:43
Yeah, that doesn't come out until like February.
00:38:45
Yeah, it's weird that we got a trailer.
00:38:46
yeah, February 21st.
00:38:47
But those are the big ones.
00:38:49
mean, Stephen King, Osgood Perkins, and James Wan together could be good.
00:38:54
Could be.
00:38:55
I hope it is.
00:38:56
Yeah, but that's Neon.
00:38:57
That's not Blumhouse.
00:38:59
I think so.
00:39:01
It's Atomic Monster.
00:39:02
Maybe?
00:39:04
Yep.
00:39:06
Distributed by Neon.
00:39:09
Which makes sense, because they just did Longlegs with him.
00:39:12
Yeah.
00:39:14
before this.
00:39:15
Anyway, I'm excited for that.
00:39:16
Me too.
00:39:17
Well, back to Cuckoo.
00:39:18
Great.
00:39:20
Any other fun facts?
00:39:23
We asked each other the same question, but differently.
00:39:27
Okay.
00:39:28
For the monster design, Singer said that he wanted something that still looked human, but diseased.
00:39:35
Like she was in a bad state.
00:39:37
And so that was the basis for it.
00:39:39
So the design came more from symptoms of disease like malnourishment, reddened eyes, unhealthy skin.
00:39:44
And then he just chose to add the unhinging jaw effect in post to emphasize her main weapon, which is her
00:39:53
song.
00:39:55
Her little ditty, if you will.
00:39:57
Yeah.
00:39:57
Cute.
00:39:58
Yeah, fun facts.
00:40:02
We had a lot.
00:40:03
We were worried we weren't going to have that many.
00:40:05
yeah, it's hard.
00:40:07
Sometimes it's really hard with new movies because there's just not a lot out there yet about it.
00:40:13
And the crazy thing is I didn't really have much overlap with you.
00:40:16
I mean, granted, most of my facts were about the birds, but...
00:40:18
But I was counting on you for those bird facts.
00:40:21
And hot damn, did you deliver.
00:40:24
Thank you Just really excited talking about birds.
00:40:30
I know you do.
00:40:32
I just talked about you actually.
00:40:33
I just got back from my vacation, behind the scenes, and they were telling me about a girl who went on their last vacation with them, my family and friends, who was like obsessed
00:40:45
with rocks.
00:40:45
And she would just like pick up rocks and be like, this is a great rock, let me tell you why.
00:40:50
And then she made my brother -in -law carry them all in his backpack.
00:40:53
And by the end of their hike, he just had a backpack full of rocks.
00:40:57
And I was like,
00:40:58
She sounds a lot like my friend kd.
00:41:00
Like, she will just tell you about any bird and everything about the bird.
00:41:03
And you're like, that's great.
00:41:06
I don't really care about birds, but I love that you care about birds.
00:41:10
Yeah.
00:41:10
Birds aren't even my thing.
00:41:12
That's true, but they're kind of your thing.
00:41:14
well, yeah, because they're the most accessible thing.
00:41:18
Whales are actually my thing.
00:41:21
Don't ever get on a boat with me when there's a fucking whale around.
00:41:24
You'll never hear the end of it.
00:41:26
seen her fucking face light up when I said...
00:41:33
I was trying to pick...
00:41:34
I'm already doing the schedule for next year, which is crazy, but I was trying to pick between some foreign films and I let her pick and one of the options was The Wailing, and
00:41:45
her face lit up.
00:41:47
She said, is there even an option?
00:41:49
Whales!
00:41:49
I said, no, not that type of whaling.
00:41:54
There are...
00:41:55
Yeah, there are in fact no whales in The Wailing and I'm so sorry.
00:41:59
Yeah.
00:41:59
I was really disappointed.
00:42:03
So I picked the skin I'm in, the skin, what is it?
00:42:08
The Skin I Live In.
00:42:08
she picked.
00:42:09
But that's not for a while.
00:42:12
Don't tease the people.
00:42:14
No, I'm kidding.
00:42:17
That's true.
00:42:18
You got to stick around to find out what she thinks about The Skin I Live In.
00:42:23
It's on the list.
00:42:24
Mm -hmm.
00:42:25
Anyway, yeah, I was a little disappointed it wasn't about whales, but that's okay.
00:42:28
I'm so sorry.
00:42:29
I vow to find a horror movie about whales that we can watch.
00:42:35
But, yeah.
00:42:37
Okay, let's rate Cuckoo.
00:42:39
Alright, how scary did you think it was?
00:42:41
I gave it a 1 .5 because I think that there were some moments of tension, the bike scene was cool, and then weirdly the one that I was the most like, ehh, that's my scared
00:42:56
reaction is, ehh.
00:42:58
It was when she was in the bathroom and like someone goes in the stall next to them and it sounds like they're like getting up to look and it just like slowly pans up.
00:43:06
I was like, no, wait.
00:43:08
That was, I think,
00:43:10
the moment I was like the most freaked out, but it wasn't that scary.
00:43:14
All of those things and you only gave it a 1 .5?
00:43:18
That was three things.
00:43:19
No, the bike scene and the bathroom scene.
00:43:22
Yeah, okay.
00:43:23
Still.
00:43:24
What did you give it?
00:43:26
I rated it pretty high.
00:43:27
I gave it a three.
00:43:29
Ooh, it creeped you out, huh?
00:43:30
Yeah.
00:43:31
did.
00:43:31
Yeah, it really fucked me up.
00:43:33
I didn't have any nightmares or anything.
00:43:34
I saw it yesterday.
00:43:36
I didn't have to sleep with light on or anything like that.
00:43:38
But I did think it did a really good job building tension in a way that you're...
00:43:46
I mean, you know when the jump scares are going to be, but sometimes you don't do the jump scare, which to your point, the bathroom scene, that was what made bathroom scenes so
00:43:54
scary.
00:43:54
When they do do the jump scare, it's like...
00:43:59
not exactly what you expected, so it still kinda gets you.
00:44:02
Yeah, that's fair.
00:44:02
And I didn't like her face.
00:44:04
You know, the little jaw thing.
00:44:05
I didn't like that.
00:44:07
Yeah, you should clarify that you should...
00:44:10
It was the the special effects.
00:44:12
mom.
00:44:12
Yeah.
00:44:13
Yeah.
00:44:13
The special effects of the mom.
00:44:16
Yeah.
00:44:16
Yeah.
00:44:17
And the sound, the sound really bothered me.
00:44:22
Okay.
00:44:24
Yeah.
00:44:25
Creepy.
00:44:26
Yeah.
00:44:27
It's one of the high, I rated it pretty high.
00:44:30
that's a creepy movie.
00:44:33
Alright.
00:44:34
How sexy did you think it was?
00:44:38
Okay, yeah.
00:44:39
It's hard to be higher than a two because Hunter Schafer plays a teenager.
00:44:44
So I always have a hard time with that, but I did give it a point.
00:44:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:48
She's not.
00:44:49
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:50
She's 25.
00:44:50
She's old.
00:44:51
She's very old.
00:44:54
So I did give it a point for the cast.
00:44:58
Hunter and Dan Stevens.
00:44:59
Hello.
00:45:01
Hello?
00:45:02
Yeah, even as a little creepy German guy, I really liked him.
00:45:07
And also for the implied fisting and ovipositing.
00:45:16
Oh, that upped it for you?
00:45:17
Okay.
00:45:18
That brought it down for me.
00:45:22
That was too slimy.
00:45:27
Not...
00:45:32
I also give it a two though.
00:45:35
For the cast and then for girls kissing girls, baby.
00:45:40
Yeah, that was great.
00:45:41
Don't we all just want like a French brunette to take us away?
00:45:46
Yeah.
00:45:49
Yep.
00:45:54
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:45:56
I gave it a 2.
00:46:00
Okay.
00:46:03
Point...
00:46:05
one.
00:46:09
If two feels, I don't know, but when I think about it, it's just like the forced
00:46:15
egging?
00:46:16
That is fucked up.
00:46:18
Okay.
00:46:21
And then weirdly, the other point was for when she gets in the car wreck and she's upside down and the blood like drips into her eye, but she's still opening her eye.
00:46:32
That made my eyes water.
00:46:33
I don't like that.
00:46:34
Yeah, that would have made Dylan really uncomfortable.
00:46:37
Yeah, I didn't like it.
00:46:38
Made my eye itch.
00:46:40
Yeah.
00:46:42
Yeah.
00:46:43
What'd you give it?
00:46:44
I only gave it a 1 .5.
00:46:47
Yeah, nothing really groundbreaking, fucked up -wise, but I gave it the 0 .5 also for the implied fisting and oviposition.
00:46:54
Yeah, yeah, that was one of my points.
00:46:57
Things can be hot and fucked up.
00:46:59
Yes, they can!
00:47:01
Which, yeah.
00:47:04
Yeah.
00:47:05
Okay.
00:47:06
Okay.
00:47:06
Great.
00:47:08
Overall, hit me.
00:47:09
What did you think?
00:47:11
Well, I'll tell you.
00:47:12
My my.
00:47:15
OK, well, OK.
00:47:17
I felt like this movie brought a lot to the table.
00:47:21
It was genuinely scary.
00:47:22
It did scare me and incredibly unsettling.
00:47:25
It was beautiful.
00:47:27
It was shot perfectly.
00:47:29
And especially knowing now that some of that was practical and not, you know, Digital, there was so much talent and diversity in the cast.
00:47:40
And the story was digestible while also being pretty unique.
00:47:44
It didn't make me think of any other movies while I was watching it, except The Shining.
00:47:49
There was something that was like, that's kind of Shining, because it's like a hotel thing.
00:47:56
Yeah, it's just, yeah.
00:47:58
But other than that, mean, where it lost me was kind of, to your point, I it took itself a little too seriously.
00:48:05
And it tried to be a little bit bigger brain than maybe it should have been.
00:48:09
I think it should have just been a little bit more casual.
00:48:11
And I also, again, you brought this up, would have preferred a slower burn with Gretchen and Ed.
00:48:19
That storyline, I would have liked more of that.
00:48:21
The movie was only an hour and 47 minutes.
00:48:23
I think it could have spared five or seven more minutes of like exploring that a little more, more of that.
00:48:33
Because it just felt like rushed, know?
00:48:35
Just...
00:48:35
I mean, I get it.
00:48:36
She's 17 and I would have done the same thing.
00:48:39
I still would do the same thing.
00:48:42
Regardless of how long I've known this person.
00:48:45
But yeah, I just would like more of it.
00:48:47
And I'll tell you, my Letterboxd review.
00:48:51
Thank you, I've been waiting this whole time.
00:48:54
Yeah.
00:48:56
Accidentally took my dad to see a movie about oviposition.
00:48:59
Four out of five stars.
00:49:02
It's a good one.
00:49:02
I like it.
00:49:04
God, now I can finally go on Letterboxd.
00:49:11
Alright.
00:49:11
What'd you give it?
00:49:12
This has, what did you just say?
00:49:16
What did you guess?
00:49:18
A 3 .5?
00:49:20
Okay.
00:49:21
as I did.
00:49:23
I didn't like it as much as you did.
00:49:25
I'll start there.
00:49:27
This did have a lot of concepts that I really think are interesting in horror though.
00:49:31
Cult -like organizations, forced pregnancy and birth, changelings, like your kid not being your actual kid, right?
00:49:39
Even like the little bit of the time loop stuff, like it was touching on that a little bit.
00:49:45
Love, love all of those things.
00:49:48
I do not think they pulled them together in a way that worked as well as I wanted it to.
00:49:59
It felt like they were just like, this is cool, let's throw that in too.
00:50:04
This is also cool, why not?
00:50:05
Like, let's just throw it all in.
00:50:08
And not all of it stuck.
00:50:10
Not all of it landed as well as I wanted it to.
00:50:14
I kind of agree with Singer himself when he said that this was more about atmosphere than it was about like a well -constructed plot.
00:50:22
I'm just a girl who likes a well -constructed plot.
00:50:27
So I didn't like it as much as you did.
00:50:30
I'm sorry.
00:50:31
I would still recommend it.
00:50:33
It was still a fun time because you're going to watch Hunter Schafer and Dan Stevens pop their pussies.
00:50:38
So why not?
00:50:40
I gave it a three.
00:50:42
Yeah.
00:50:43
I would have been pissed if it was any lower than that though.
00:50:45
Haha
00:50:48
No, this was a three out of five.
00:50:53
It was still, yeah, I still enjoyed it.
00:50:56
It was still fun.
00:50:57
It just wasn't what I wanted it be.
00:51:02
Yeah, it was like halfway there.
00:51:04
Maybe they'll do a sequel.
00:51:05
I doubt it.
00:51:07
But maybe.
00:51:07
Singer said that he was not opposed to a sequel.
00:51:11
He said that he did feel like he kind of did everything he wanted to do, but he was never opposed to a sequel.
00:51:17
Yeah.
00:51:18
Get that bag,
00:51:19
Get that back, Singer.
00:51:24
All right, well.
00:51:27
I like when I like the movies more than you.
00:51:32
I like when I like the movies more than you.
00:51:34
No.
00:51:37
I just like liking movies.
00:51:42
Would you survive?
00:51:45
Would I survive?
00:51:47
That's the question.
00:51:48
I...
00:51:49
Don't think so.
00:51:50
I think I'm I don't have the fight that Gretchen had.
00:51:58
I'm definitely moving.
00:51:59
So the first question is, am I moving to Germany?
00:52:02
Yes, I absolutely fucking am.
00:52:05
Yeah.
00:52:06
So I'm in the situation and then I.
00:52:08
And then you're dead.
00:52:08
And then I die.
00:52:10
Yeah.
00:52:10
Interesting.
00:52:11
I think so.
00:52:13
Like, no one dies.
00:52:16
Well...
00:52:16
I, yeah.
00:52:18
But I think Gretchen could have if she had not fought back.
00:52:21
Yeah, that's fair.
00:52:22
But like, she didn't really.
00:52:26
She got incapacitated and saved by the guy.
00:52:28
She had to stab the bird, lady.
00:52:30
Yeah, but I think I could stab someone.
00:52:33
Okay, you do already use a butterfly knife.
00:52:37
Trainer.
00:52:37
more tricks than I think she does, I think that cuckoo's going bye bye.
00:52:44
I don't know.
00:52:49
If that's all I had to do.
00:52:50
I think I'm okay.
00:52:52
Okay.
00:52:52
No one really dies.
00:52:55
Yeah, you're right.
00:52:57
I'm taking the dub.
00:52:58
Okay fair.
00:53:00
Thank you.
00:53:00
I think so.
00:53:02
Couldn't be me, but.
00:53:03
You're just immediately ending it.
00:53:07
As soon as things get weird.
00:53:09
Someone vomits on the floor when you're working customer service and you're like, I'm done.
00:53:15
That would be my 13th reason.
00:53:18
I've had enough.
00:53:20
Yeah.
00:53:22
And for it to happen two times.
00:53:25
No.
00:53:28
First day on the job?
00:53:30
I don't think so.
00:53:32
Bye.
00:53:33
Alright.
00:53:34
Do you want to predict next week's movie?
00:53:35
Do know what it is?
00:53:38
I've missed this.
00:53:41
You want me to look and then I'm going to look.
00:53:45
So I don't even look.
00:53:49
Great.
00:53:50
Next week's movie is called American Mary.
00:53:57
Hahaha!
00:54:00
That one that I've never heard of.
00:54:07
This is a modern war movie about a woman named Mary.
00:54:13
Yep.
00:54:15
But she's not American.
00:54:19
No she's not.
00:54:21
She's...
00:54:22
a different...
00:54:22
from a different country.
00:54:25
But her country's at war with America.
00:54:29
And she has to...
00:54:30
Pass as American.
00:54:33
Yep.
00:54:33
Because
00:54:34
the Americans are winning.
00:54:36
Of course.
00:54:38
So I'm trying to figure out where the horror comes in.
00:54:42
Yeah, yeah, me too, but slow burn, I like it.
00:54:47
It's...
00:54:48
it's...
00:54:49
it's body horror.
00:54:50
It must be.
00:54:50
That's all that...
00:54:51
yep.
00:54:52
So she gets captured by her own country.
00:54:56
For whatever reason.
00:54:59
So yeah.
00:55:03
She gets, she's tries to get out of the military.
00:55:05
She's forced to the military.
00:55:06
She tries to get out of it by pretending to be an American and then taken back to America.
00:55:11
But her own country captures her and then horror ensues.
00:55:17
Body horror.
00:55:18
Okay.
00:55:19
It's just torture.
00:55:21
Yeah.
00:55:21
Yeah, I think so.
00:55:23
Does she live?
00:55:27
Damn.
00:55:29
RIP American Mary.
00:55:32
Yeah, sounds like it.
00:55:35
I don't think I got anything right, not even a little bit, but that would be a fun war movie.
00:55:40
You got something right.
00:55:42
Her name is Mary.
00:55:44
Her name is Mary.
00:55:47
She is American in the movie, but the actress who plays her is Canadian, so not American.
00:55:57
Yeah, and you actually know her.
00:56:00
I do?
00:56:00
Yeah, her name is Katherine Isabelle and you know her from...
00:56:06
Ginger Snaps.
00:56:08
She's Ginger.
00:56:12
Scream queen.
00:56:12
her from.
00:56:14
But that is a Canadian movie, so I should have guessed.
00:56:16
You shouldn't have guessed.
00:56:22
And you got one other thing right.
00:56:24
War.
00:56:25
No.
00:56:25
It has nothing to do with war.
00:56:29
Torture.
00:56:31
Body horror.
00:56:33
No!
00:56:36
You right about that.
00:56:37
And that's all I'll give you.
00:56:41
Well, I'm not looking forward to it.
00:56:42
I am.
00:56:43
It's been a while.
00:56:45
Mm.
00:56:45
Okay, well, thanks, I guess.
00:56:49
Yeah, anytime.
00:56:54
Alright, cool.
00:56:54
Well, that's our feelings on Cuckoo.
00:57:00
If you've seen it, let us know whose side you're on.
00:57:02
Is kd right?
00:57:03
Am I right?
00:57:04
What's the vibe?
00:57:06
I mean, I don't think either of us are wrong, but you know.
00:57:09
That's so true.
00:57:11
God.
00:57:12
of us is right, it's me.
00:57:17
I don't...
00:57:19
I'm unfamiliar with being wrong, so I don't know if that's true, but...
00:57:25
Yeah.
00:57:26
rating aligned with the audience score and mine aligned with the critic score.
00:57:31
Yeah, I feel like that always happens though.
00:57:33
One of us aligns with the critic and one of us aligns with the audience.
00:57:36
That's happened quite a few times.
00:57:38
Yeah, usually it's the other way around.
00:57:41
Yeah.
00:57:42
But not this time.
00:57:43
But not this time.
00:57:46
Well.
00:57:47
Thanks.
00:57:48
Yeah.
00:57:49
audience.
00:57:50
I'm not a critic this time.
00:57:53
But I'm still right.
00:57:54
We have to be critics for two whole years.
00:57:57
I'm a critic.
00:57:59
I'm so critical.
00:58:02
Yeah.
00:58:05
I do think I have some of that.
00:58:08
Not a lot, but an ounce or two.
00:58:12
Enough for Rotten Tomatoes.
00:58:14
Yeah.
00:58:15
Yeah.
00:58:17
Absolutely.
00:58:17
But cool, yeah, Cuckoo, new movie, out now, go see it.
00:58:23
Please.
00:58:24
Tell us what you thought.
00:58:26
Mm -hmm.
00:58:28
And we'll see you next time when we talk about...
00:58:31
American Mary.
00:58:32
The most American of all the Marys, if you will.
00:58:35
Yeah.
00:58:35
Cool, thanks for listening, we'll see you then.
00:58:37
Like and subscribe.
00:58:38
Bye.
00:58:39
Bye!