In this week’s episode, we’re breaking down the newly-released movie Arcadian, starring Nicolas Cage, Maxwell Jenkins (Reacher, Lost in Space), and Jaeden Martell (It, Defending Jacob).
In the desolate aftermath of an apocalypse, a father (Cage) fiercely protects his twin teenage sons (Martell, Jenkins) on a remote farm. Their fragile peace by day crumbles each night as bloodthirsty creatures roam the wasteland. When a desperate struggle for survival unfolds, the boys are forced to test their courage and resourcefulness in a fight for their lives.
Horror News Roundup
👉 Jason Blum and Lionsgate rebooting The Blair Witch Project franchise: https://variety.com/2024/film/news/jason-blum-blair-witch-project-reboot-lionsgate-1235966162/
👉 Saw 11 release date pushed back a year: https://screenrant.com/saw-11-release-date-delayed-update/
👉 Among Us animated TV show cast announced, Randall Park (Marvel), Yvette Nicole Brown (Community), Elijah Wood (Lord of the Rings, Yellow Jackets), Ashley Johnson (The Last of Us): https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/among-us-animated-series-cast-randall-park-yvette-nicole-brown-elijah-wood-ashley-johnson-1235943087/
👉 Trap (M. Night Shyamalan, Josh Hartnett) trailer released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJiPAJKjUVg
👉 She Loved Blossoms More artwork released, Tribeca Festival premiere announced: https://variety.com/2024/film/news/she-loved-blossoms-more-yellow-veil-pictures-tribeca-festival-1235975048/
👉 Scary Movie reboot coming from Paramount, Miramax: https://variety.com/2024/film/news/scary-movie-reboot-paramount-1235967328/
Next Week
In this episode, kd guesses the plot of Raw, which is ACTUALLY about a young vegetarian who develops a taste for human flesh (she was close): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFlXVX2af_Y
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Hello.
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That was aggressive, huh?
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I'm sorry.
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I know I wanted to this time.
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Oh, okay, well, you weren't anywhere near close enough to your mic, but...
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Oh, sorry.
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Is this better?
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I feel like it's been a while behind the scenes.
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We haven't recorded in a while.
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I was gone for a week, so.
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I missed you.
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Also not well, kind of horror related before we get into the news.
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Have you watched Fallout yet?
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No.
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Dylan's watching it without me.
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You should watch it.
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We finished it.
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We watched it in Discord in one day.
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We finished the whole thing, start to finish.
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We started at 9 a.m.
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ended at like 5 p.m.
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And it was really good.
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And it's kind of like horror adjacent based on a video game.
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And yeah, so if anybody out there hasn't watched it yet, you should, it's on Prime.
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Very good, thoroughly enjoyed it.
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All right, it's on my to-do list.
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Great.
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So, we can talk about it in a couple years.
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Hahaha
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Perfect.
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Yeah, welcome back to Killer Cuties.
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That's us.
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We've got some news for you.
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We sure do.
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Kick us off, kd.
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Yeah, I'll go first.
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I have some really special news.
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An ode to the first ever episode of Killer Cuties podcast.
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There's a Blair Witch Project reboot happening.
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It's Jason Blum.
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He's teaming up with Lionsgate.
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They brought us the Twilight series.
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To make a new Blair Witch, and it's supposedly a multi-film deal.
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So we've got a bunch of Blair Witch coming down the road.
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a new vision that will reintroduce the horror classic for a new generation.
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Which almost makes me wonder if it's even gonna be found footage.
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Mmm.
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I feel like you can't do Blair Witch and not have it be found footage.
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I would think.
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I don't think this is a good idea, but I'm willing to see it play out.
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Ha ha ha.
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Well, you want to know the worst news?
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He's also Jason, you know, Jason.
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Yeah, is partnering with the guy who did the 2016 remakes.
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Oh.
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So do with that information what you will.
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Oh no.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, we'll see.
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we will see.
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Hahaha
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Speaking of Lionsgate, they did give us the iconic Twilight series, but more
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importantly to me they gave us Saw.
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And in that realm, they have announced that they've pushed back Saw 11's release
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by a full year.
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I know, so now it's going to be released in September of 2025 instead of this
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September.
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So I'm pretty sad about that.
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but it's out of my hands.
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What am I gonna do?
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What is this, COVID?
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Yeah, kind of still.
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*mumbling*
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Um, okay, this one's kind of horror-adjacent, but there's like blood
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and stuff.
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Um, yeah, so Among Us...
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..
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It's getting an animated series!
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And the cast is fucking stacked.
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Yeah, we've got Randall Park, who you probably don't care about.
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He plays Jimmy Woo in the Marvelverse.
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Which, by the way, look him up, he's 50 years old.
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I never would have guessed, yeah.
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Okay, okay, Googling oh wait, I know him.
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Yeah.
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He was in Always Be My Maybe.
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That was a cute movie.
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He does look very good
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For 50, right?
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for anything, but yeah, for 50 especially.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, so he's in it.
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Ashley Johnson from The Last of Us Video Game is in it because it's an animated TV
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show.
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Yvette Nicole Brown from Community.
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Same.
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And freaking Elijah Wood.
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Frodo.
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Frodo Baggins himself.
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Yeah, that too.
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He was also from Iowa.
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I forget your priorities.
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He's also in Yellow Jackets, which I forgot completely.
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Elijah Wood?
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Oh, must be season two.
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I still haven't watched that.
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Oh, you know what?
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That might be it.
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I don't think I've watched it either.
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Which is weird because I love when people be eating each other.
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I...
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there wasn't enough cannibalism, honestly.
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I don't know if they did more in season two.
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Okay.
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I also kind of thought it would have been like a fun twist if there wasn't any
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cannibalism.
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Like if that was just like an assumption that we made.
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But I don't think that they did that.
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I don't know.
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Someone who's seen season two, please, please let us know what happens.
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Um, okay, next news for me, M.
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Night Shyamalan's upcoming movie, Trap.
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What?
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Ah!
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One of the guys from Pearl Harbor is in that movie.
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Yes, it stars Josh Hartnett, underrated scream king.
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They released their first trailer, so you can watch that now.
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I watched it.
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It actually looks like kind of fun.
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I will be watching it when it comes out, for sure.
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Mainly because I think Josh Hartnett might be like one of my first celebrity crushes
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ever.
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Probably me too!
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Yeah, because of your favorite movie ever, Pearl Harbor.
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Yeah, that movie like, eh?
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But the scene with like him and Kate Beckinsale, and she like pulls him closer
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by his necklace.
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And I was like, like eight year old me was, it did something to me.
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Yeah, I'm telling you, I named my kid after a character in that movie.
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I fucking love Pearl Harbor.
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Okay, me and Dylan both know who she's actually named after.
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Yeah.
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No.
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It's an argument for another time.
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I'm on his side on that one.
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Yeah.
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OK, one more quick one I want to bring up is that I hope that you haven't heard
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about this one yet.
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We got a first look at the upcoming psychedelic horror film.
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She Loved Blossoms More.
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Ooh, I haven't heard about this.
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Good.
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It looks so fun.
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Like we just have one picture of it, but I'm obsessed with it.
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It's giving Annihilation a little, but it's a horror comedy, which I don't know,
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I kind of wish it wasn't just based on the picture, but like totally willing to give
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it a chance because it looks really dope.
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Yeah.
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It's supposedly about a couple of brothers trying to bring their mom back to life and
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they get stuck in what they're calling a psychedelic hellscape.
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Okay.
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Definitely has comedy written all over that.
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No, that's the joke.
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Okay, I was gonna say, but it's screaming, it's screening at Tribeca in June and we
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should get a release date between now and then.
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Nice.
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Okay, very cool.
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I'm excited.
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Like, let's just go.
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Yeah, you know, it's like around, right?
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Where is it in L.A.?
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no idea.
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I don't know.
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I would assume California because that's where all of the shit is, but I don't
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know.
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June 5th through the 16th.
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Oh, nope, it's in New York City.
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Ha ha!
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birthday.
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Oh, fuck.
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God damn.
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The one movie festival that's not in LA.
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Dumb.
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I do want to go to Sundance next year though.
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That'd be fun.
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Yeah.
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Okay, I have one last piece of horror news.
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Paramount Pictures and Miramax have collabed to reboot the Scary Movie
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franchise.
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So they've announced that they're gonna start filming this fall and then the
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release should be sometime in 2025.
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So I have mixed feelings about that because like the first, I'll be very
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generous and say three are good.
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The last two were awful.
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So bad.
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So we'll see.
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Who knows?
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I would really like them to get the Wayans brothers back because that's I think what
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made the first two so funny.
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But I guess we'll find out.
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Also, Alexis Veille made a fan poster for it and they put the tag...
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They put the tagline, don't worry, we jailed the previous producer.
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And I really want them to keep that because if you don't know, Harvey
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Weinstein was the previous producer.
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So it's like double funny because the last couple movies really were bad, but also
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like he's literally in jail.
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So I thought that was funny and I think that they should pay Alexis and use that
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because that's great.
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That would make me go see it.
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I love that.
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I mean, I think to their credit, they do have a lot more to play off of.
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Like I would love to see like the Jordan Peele movies be made fun of, the A24
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movies, Ari Aster.
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Yeah, that was They used like Midsommar for the fake fan poster.
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So I think there are there's definitely enough content for them to make fun of.
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But it's just it all comes down to how they do it, what kind of jokes they do and
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if it's well made.
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But obviously, they're very hit or miss.
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So we will see.
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Yes, we will.
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Mm-hmm.
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Alright, well, that's what you missed on Horror News.
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It is.
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Should we get into it?
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Please.
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OK, we're here to talk about Arcadian.
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It just came out on April 12, 2024, starring Nicolas Cage in the near future
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on a decimated planet Earth.
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Paul, played by Nicolas Cage, and his twin sons find tranquility by day, but terror
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by night, when ferocious creatures awaken and consume all living souls in their
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path.
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When Paul is nearly killed, the boys come up with a desperate plan for survival,
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using everything their father taught them to keep them alive.
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Like I said, starring Nick.
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Jaeden Martell as Joseph, one of the sons, Maxwell Jenkins as Thomas, the other of
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the twins, and then Sadie Soverell playing Charlotte.
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One of the twins is love interest.
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It had a low budget.
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I couldn't find what it was.
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It's only made about 500k since it was released about a week ago at the time of
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us recording.
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It's got a 52% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, but an 84 critic score.
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So.
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I guess it's for us and only us to decide.
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Ha ha ha.
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Yeah, we are the critics.
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It's us.
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Um, before we launch into Arcadian, uh, you saw this in theaters, correct?
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I think because it's only in theaters.
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I don't know.
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Maybe there's like some hand-cam footage somewhere that you could get your hands
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on.
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Um, okay.
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Did you get a preview for Sasquatch Sunset?
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I did it!
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It was fucking hilarious!
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Holy shit!
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I don't know how this is the first time I'm hearing about that movie, but that
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took me so off guard I was like, I think I audibly laughed in the theater.
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For anybody who doesn't know it was like It's a movie about Sasquatches But it's
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the preview starts and it's just a camera like panning through nature and then it
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hard cuts to just two Sasquatches Going at it like sexually
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They're fuckin'.
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And...I didn't really pay attention to the rest, but what a preview!
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Like I didn't!
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Yeah, that movie looks insane.
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I don't think it's horror.
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It is Ari Aster.
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He was, I think he produced, right?
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I don't know, but he's associated somehow.
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Yeah, I don't think he directed it, but I want to say it was like executive produced
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or something.
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Yeah, anyways, it's definitely not horror, but I guess it got me pumped up to see
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Arcadian.
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Yeah, I took my dad to watch this movie with me.
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So it was really fun watching that trailer with him.
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Ha ha ha.
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That's, you know what?
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I think this is like a take your dad to the movie, movie.
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Cause it's about a dad, right?
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I think Nick Cage said too that he kind of based it off of his dad because his mom
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wasn't around as much when he was a kid.
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And so he wanted to play off of that kind of father-son relationship.
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Yeah, Ben Brewer, the director, said that Nick Cage brought a lot of his own ideas
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to the movie too, and a lot of them were inspired by his dad.
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He said, Ben said, that his favorite scene was when everybody's at the table, or the
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dad and the two sons are at the table, and they do that like, we are men, and they
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stab the table, you know?
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Which was like a little awkward in hindsight, but it also is like a very like
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touching scene.
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That was Ben's favorite, and apparently that's something Nick had
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come up with five minutes before they started filming.
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I will say I was like, men, you know?
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What an expensive way to show your solidarity, just keep stabbing a table.
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I guess money doesn't really matter in that world.
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But I did like that it kind of immediately set up that, now I'm going to forget the
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kids' names, that Thomas, even though like him and his dad kind of butted heads a
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little bit more.
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I think it showed that he was a little bit more similar to his dad.
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Like they immediately just stab it and then Joseph's the one that like can't
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actually stick it in, which again, like it was a very subtle way to show us that
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Thomas was more of the physical, impulsive one and Thomas or Joseph was more of the
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intellectual logical one.
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And it was a very subtle way to kind of introduce that to the audience.
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Totally.
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Um, yeah, both Jaeden Martell and Maxwell Jenkins said that working with Nick Cage
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was great because he was so collaborative.
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Like you said, he put a lot of himself into the things and they said every day he
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would come in and he wasn't ever self-serving.
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It was always, what is this scene about?
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How can we make it better?
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What's the best idea for the scene?
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Not just for him and his character, which I think is cool because that's not always
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how.
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highly paid A-list actors are like on set, so.
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Yeah, and I'm not sure that he was really highly paid for this one.
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I think he, I mean, there's been some discussion that it's a very low budget
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film.
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So I can't imagine.
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I mean, if it was low budget, then most of it would have had to gone to him.
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So I was just going to say, I think it feels like he's doing more passion
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projects.
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So I would not be surprised if he didn't.
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I get paid a whole lot for this one.
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Yeah, that's definitely a good point.
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I feel like, and he's always kind of done that.
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He'll do the big blockbusters, like National Treasure and stuff like that.
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But then he's also done these kind of more indie projects that are much more intimate
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and low budget.
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I can appreciate that.
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It's kind of like, I feel like it's very.
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The actors who take that route, I think, I don't know why I just like that.
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Daniel Radcliffe did that.
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He did these huge blockbusters of Harry Potter.
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And then he was like, I made all this money.
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I can do whatever I want.
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And then he started doing these indie projects that were really, some of them
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were so good that I liked that a lot.
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And Elijah Wood kind of did the same thing, Lord of the Rings, and started
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doing these kind of side projects, but, yep.
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I like it.
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More of that, please.
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Yes, please.
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But no, Nick, we're on a first name basis too.
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Every, yeah, everyone we talk about, we're on first name basis.
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He described this one, I like the way he described it.
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He described it as a mix of horror, sci-fi, and independently spirited drama,
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which is very much what it is.
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And Mike Nilon the writer.
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is also Nick's manager.
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They've worked together for like 15 years and he approached Nick like, hey I have
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this idea that I think you're really gonna like because you have been looking for a
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horror sci-fi independent drama family movie.
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And Nick was like, oh yeah, hell yeah, I'll do it.
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I love that.
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Yeah, I like that.
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And apparently for like prep for the movie, Nicolas Cage just isolated himself
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with his family for like three months.
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Of course he did.
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Chill out.
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Did you need to do that?
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No, they never need to do it, okay?
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Although honestly, that's like the least obnoxious form of like method acting.
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At least he's not sending condoms to his coworkers.
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Jared Leto.
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I'm talkin to you.
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I have personal beef with him.
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He doesn't know it, but it's on fucking sight.
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ha.
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Oh.
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It looked like you were going to say something.
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I was, I was.
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Mike, you know, you know Mike, the writer made up the story kind of through COVID
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based off of his own two twin boys.
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So they're, well, no, but the characters are reflections of his own son's
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personalities.
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Okay.
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I like that.
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Yeah.
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Do you think you'd be like offended if your parents wrote you into a movie?
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If my parents knew me well enough to be able to write me into a movie, I would be
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flattered.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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What about you?
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have to see the finished production, but I would like to think that my mom would not
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do me dirty.
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It would be accurate.
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And maybe a little bit of mom goggles, because my mom definitely has mom goggles
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when it comes to me and my sister.
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Like she just thinks like, you know, we're so great.
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Oh, well, yeah.
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Duh.
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Do you want to hear two of my favorite Letterboxd reviews for this?
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Yes, I love a Letterboxd review.
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Yeah, they both made me laugh a lot.
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Drew Clark said, these motherfuckers fightin' some Studio Ghibli monsters.
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Which I thought was very accurate.
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So I really liked that.
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And then NDC32002 said, of the hundreds of post-apocalyptic films I've seen, this had
00:21:07
by far the most realistic haircuts.
00:21:11
So true!
00:21:15
Right?
00:21:15
Like the one kid has like a not fully formed mullet and the other one just has
00:21:19
patches of hair like missing.
00:21:22
Yeah, like they just like randomly in the middle of the day just took scissors and
00:21:25
that is very accurate.
00:21:28
You're not gonna have a fucking fade
00:21:31
No.
00:21:32
And I, like when I was watching the movie, I kept looking at his little like bald
00:21:36
spots.
00:21:37
I was like, oh my God.
00:21:39
And then I read that afterwards and I was like, oh my God, you're right.
00:21:43
You would have a shitty ass hair.
00:21:44
Not me, cause I've cut my hair and it looked good.
00:21:46
But I'm different.
00:21:49
I can watch one YouTube tutorial and I'm set.
00:21:54
I guess I wouldn't have a YouTube tutorial.
00:21:57
Yeah, that's the problem.
00:22:00
Without YouTube, I would be half the person I am today.
00:22:07
Same.
00:22:09
It really shaped me as a child.
00:22:13
Yeah.
00:22:14
Speaking of the monsters, Ben Brewer, the director is known for his VFX work.
00:22:23
He was on the Everything Everywhere All at Once team.
00:22:27
Yeah.
00:22:29
And me too.
00:22:29
Have I ever told you about coming out of the theater for that movie.
00:22:34
No.
00:22:36
Dylan and I went to see it and were coming out of the theater and I just kind of
00:22:41
crumbled to the ground and sobbed.
00:22:43
He had to literally pick me up and carry me to the car.
00:22:47
I had a f**king existential crisis after I saw that movie.
00:22:52
Yeah, it's terrible.
00:22:53
I saw it on a plane, so I had to hold it together.
00:22:57
Oh yeah.
00:22:59
Yeah, that plane would have been going down with me.
00:23:01
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:23:06
Anyway, he brought the head of VFX for Everything Everywhere over to Arcadian.
00:23:15
And one thing that I thought was really interesting is that they did a lot of work
00:23:19
to make the VFX accessible.
00:23:21
And I don't mean like digestible because they certainly were not, but like
00:23:25
literally accessible.
00:23:26
Like he did a lot of creating in Blender, which is a free tool.
00:23:31
Yeah.
00:23:32
can use Blender.
00:23:35
And then he worked with his brother, who's a sculptor, to create the monsters.
00:23:40
Oh, interesting.
00:23:45
Yeah, I know in an interview, Maxwell Jenkins was talking about what it was like
00:23:52
filming.
00:23:53
Because everything was on set.
00:23:55
They filmed in Dublin.
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So they didn't use green screens or anything like that.
00:24:00
But he said they had.
00:24:02
these kind of glove things for the monster's hands that they would use.
00:24:07
And then they had a stunt team who was in motion capture suits and they would do the
00:24:13
movements of the monsters.
00:24:16
But he said that the frame of reference for what the monsters were going to look
00:24:20
like in the end was just constantly changing throughout production.
00:24:24
Like they would just keep coming up with a different explanation.
00:24:27
And I feel like you could kind of see that in the end.
00:24:30
It kind of felt like
00:24:31
They had 12 different ideas for the monsters and just put them all together.
00:24:36
Hehehe
00:24:37
Well, also, I think the monster in the trailer is completely different to the
00:24:41
monster in the movie.
00:24:44
You see, I can remember, cause I just remember seeing fur.
00:24:48
Cause remember in our predictions, I said, I think they have fur, yeah.
00:24:52
I don't know, but I even feel like scene to scene they kind of looked different.
00:24:57
Yeah, and well, and I mean, they were a little shapeshifty, right?
00:25:01
So I would expect them to look a little different.
00:25:05
But yeah, like even like the tone of them changed by the end of the movie.
00:25:09
And if you Google them, nothing that looks like them comes up.
00:25:15
No, well, and I'm sure that might change once it's like...
00:25:19
a more accessible film because right now it's just in theaters and select theaters
00:25:22
and select times.
00:25:26
But yeah, I feel like the first time we saw a full view of the monster I think is
00:25:31
when he captures it and it's in the bedroom.
00:25:35
I feel like that monster compared to the monster that attacks them at the far like
00:25:41
the Rose Garden or whatever is those were like two different monsters.
00:25:46
wildly different.
00:25:46
Well, the one in the bedroom looked like it was out of the fucking tiki room.
00:25:52
Right?
00:25:52
He looked like a fuckin' tiki!
00:25:54
He kind of did.
00:25:55
And it was almost more like wolf-like, whereas like the ending one was much more
00:26:00
alien-esque.
00:26:01
I don't know.
00:26:02
It was very strange.
00:26:04
Yeah, and then there was no introduction to the chomping until the last scene of
00:26:10
the movie.
00:26:12
The chomping came out of nowhere.
00:26:16
I laughed out loud and I don't think that was the intent, but the like clapping that
00:26:22
they did, it reminded me of those, you know those toys with the three hands and
00:26:26
you're just like, yes, it was clapping at me.
00:26:30
And I couldn't, I kept laughing every time they did it.
00:26:33
Yeah, no.
00:26:33
Yeah, I don't know.
00:26:34
I feel like there were aspects of the monsters that I really enjoyed.
00:26:38
They were very unique, which is rare at this point in the movies.
00:26:43
You don't see a lot of things you haven't seen in some aspect before.
00:26:49
And like the first scene where he traps it and we kind of first see it, like the hand
00:26:54
come through the door and it keeps getting closer.
00:26:57
Oh my God, I was holding my breath the whole time.
00:26:59
Like that was such a cool scene.
00:27:02
Yeah!
00:27:04
But the clapper thing, I kept laughing.
00:27:06
And I feel like the way that they kept changing how they looked and it didn't, I
00:27:12
honestly, I think one of my biggest critiques of the movie was that it didn't
00:27:16
feel.
00:27:19
Done.
00:27:21
It didn't feel fully fleshed out.
00:27:23
I feel like it was like a little underdeveloped.
00:27:26
And I think the same goes for the monsters.
00:27:30
That's fair.
00:27:32
I mean, he did it on free software, so.
00:27:37
Hahaha
00:27:40
But no, I agree.
00:27:41
I think one of my biggest critiques is that, kind of like what you said, that
00:27:46
scene with the fingernail unfolding, getting longer, whatever was happening
00:27:50
there was fucking freaky.
00:27:54
And then I think they just showed too much of the monsters.
00:27:59
You know what I mean?
00:28:00
Like, had they just kept it at that implied or leave it up to your imagination
00:28:08
kind of thing?
00:28:09
it would have been a lot better on like the Monster first.
00:28:13
Yeah, I don't know, because I still think like there were parts of the end where I
00:28:18
really did like it.
00:28:19
Like, I liked the fact that it was almost kind of a hive mind and they would hoard
00:28:24
together and like the flaming wheel coming towards them was cool as like that was so
00:28:30
sick.
00:28:31
I loved that.
00:28:33
But yeah, then there were aspects that I was like, okay, that looks a little wonky.
00:28:37
I don't really get it.
00:28:39
But they didn't really explain anything in this movie, which is again why I kind of
00:28:42
feel like it's underdeveloped.
00:28:44
Yeah.
00:28:44
See, I didn't mind the whole not explaining things.
00:28:47
Um, I feel like enough was answered.
00:28:51
I don't know why it's called Arcadian.
00:28:52
I was trying to look at look into that.
00:28:55
That bothers me a little bit, but I mean it there's room for a prequel.
00:28:59
There's room for a sequel.
00:29:01
You know what I mean?
00:29:03
There's room for remakes.
00:29:06
I guess, I think it's inevitable that people are gonna compare this to A Quiet
00:29:13
Place.
00:29:14
Hahahaha!
00:29:15
don't.
00:29:16
Not once did that thought cross my mind, except the monster sort of.
00:29:19
100%, I was thinking of A Quiet Place throughout the movie.
00:29:23
And I kind of have to compare them because I had hoped when I started kind of getting
00:29:27
that vibe, I was kind of hoping that this movie would fix the things that I had
00:29:32
issues with in A Quiet Place.
00:29:35
It didn't.
00:29:36
Your complaint about Quiet Place is that they explained it too much.
00:29:40
Yes, but then they went the whole opposite direction and didn't explain anything.
00:29:45
Oh, see, I liked that.
00:29:46
I didn't want answers.
00:29:47
yeah, I hated the like panning over the obvious newspapers, but like there has to
00:29:51
be a happy medium where we at least get something.
00:29:58
Just anything.
00:30:00
Well, honestly, the entire beginning scene could have been cut.
00:30:03
It didn't add anything.
00:30:03
It didn't help us learn anything.
00:30:06
Well, why did he leave his babies in a shed?
00:30:09
Are they even his babies?
00:30:10
We don't even know.
00:30:11
Where's the mom?
00:30:13
They're newborns.
00:30:14
that's implied.
00:30:16
Mom is dead, that's implied.
00:30:17
He had to go get supplies.
00:30:19
And it was establishing that, you know, they had grown up in this world.
00:30:24
They don't know anything different.
00:30:26
Yeah, but I feel like you could have showed that just in the rest.
00:30:29
At least like give us something about where did the monsters come from?
00:30:34
Were they here all the time?
00:30:35
They have that one scene in the shed where they kind of start to touch on it, but
00:30:38
they never fully flesh it out.
00:30:40
And I guess to me, it just feels like the filmmakers didn't think about it.
00:30:45
They were just like, oh, monster movie, we don't have to explain anything.
00:30:48
We don't have to like think of an idea of how this happened.
00:30:51
It can just be something and we don't have to like explain anything.
00:30:55
So that, that for me was explained by the conversation that Thomas and Charlotte
00:31:03
had, where they were like, explain the apocalypse in 10 seconds or less, because
00:31:11
nobody knows.
00:31:14
I don't buy that nobody knows though.
00:31:16
But there's, well, I mean, they've been ostracized from their communities.
00:31:21
Yeah, like they're busy with other shit.
00:31:23
They don't have a government.
00:31:24
They don't have any way to like disseminate information.
00:31:28
Yeah, but clearly, like, Nicolas Cage's character was around when the downfall
00:31:32
happened.
00:31:33
So he has to have some information.
00:31:36
He was in a city.
00:31:37
For Christ's sake, he was in a city!
00:31:40
I don't know.
00:31:40
I see, I don't, I'm already nervous about what our ratings are gonna be in this
00:31:45
movie, but it didn't bother me.
00:31:47
It just, I got exactly the right amount of information out of it.
00:31:51
And it made me feel like there was still room for prequel, sequel.
00:31:57
Yeah, I mean, they definitely left it open.
00:31:59
Totally.
00:32:02
Yeah.
00:32:02
And, and I would be so stoked to see Jaeden Martell and Maxwell Jenkins and
00:32:08
Sadie Soverall all come back because they're all fucking incredible.
00:32:12
They were really good.
00:32:13
I'm actually, I'm not as familiar with the other two, but I've seen a lot of what
00:32:18
Jaeden Martell has done.
00:32:20
And I just think he's just solid in everything I've seen.
00:32:23
And so I'm excited for him to be in more stuff.
00:32:26
He was in the It remakes.
00:32:29
He played young Bill.
00:32:32
Yeah.
00:32:33
And he did great.
00:32:36
He was in The Lodge, which I think is on our list for like winter time, because
00:32:40
it's like a wintery horror movie.
00:32:41
Cozy.
00:32:42
Um, yeah.
00:32:45
And then I saw him in Defending Jacob too, which is like an Apple TV series.
00:32:51
Chris Evans.
00:32:53
Is it Chris Evans?
00:32:53
Oh, I thought it was Ben Affleck.
00:32:56
No, Chris Evans plays the dad.
00:32:59
Yeah, I liked him in all of those things.
00:33:02
Like I thought he did a great job.
00:33:04
So and in this, oh, yeah, I know none of the performances were bad.
00:33:09
No, yeah, Nick Cage was very good too.
00:33:12
I was actually surprised that he was...
00:33:13
I mean, he played a big role, but he was underutilized, which fine, like he doesn't
00:33:20
need to have the spotlight.
00:33:22
I still think he carried very well, but you know.
00:33:26
Yeah.
00:33:26
Yeah.
00:33:26
Can you guess my actual least favorite part of this movie?
00:33:32
Is it Nick Cage?
00:33:34
It has to do with his character.
00:33:37
His character?
00:33:39
Yeah, it's also a thing that they did not fix from A Quiet Place.
00:33:44
Oh, I don't know.
00:33:47
The fucking unnecessary dad sacrifice.
00:33:52
Oh my God.
00:33:54
Why was it necessary?
00:33:55
He just locks him in a room and then stands there while he gets blown up.
00:33:59
There was no reason.
00:34:02
If they would have shown them trying to get in and one person couldn't fit, sure,
00:34:07
that's all they needed to do.
00:34:09
But like, as it stood, he didn't even try.
00:34:13
He just stood there and blew himself up for no fucking reason.
00:34:16
Here's the thing, he was gonna die anyway.
00:34:21
He was on his deathbed.
00:34:24
Oh, he got up just fine and started shooting the Studio Ghibli monsters.
00:34:31
It's called adrenaline, babe.
00:34:32
He had to protect his kids.
00:34:34
He got a last minute, second wind, enough to sacrifice himself.
00:34:41
I, it's just, it's a pet peeve of mine.
00:34:43
If you're gonna do a sacrifice, it has to be like the only option.
00:34:49
Otherwise it feels unnecessary and it just feels like you're trying to evoke an
00:34:52
emotion from me and it's not working because it just made me angry.
00:34:56
Okay, so I agree, I agree, not a lot, but I agree that, yes, I also was like, why
00:35:10
are you sacrificing yourself?
00:35:11
Like what, there has to be another way, but it moved so quickly.
00:35:16
Like if you're a parent in that situation and you know that sacrificing yourself
00:35:23
will give them enough time.
00:35:24
You're not thinking of finding any other options.
00:35:26
It did!
00:35:27
It slowed them down because Jaeden Martell's character was trying to get him
00:35:31
to come in.
00:35:32
That's not Nicolas Cage's fault!
00:35:34
Yes it is!
00:35:36
No, it's not!
00:35:38
Nicolas Cage spent the last 15 years hounding it into their brains that they
00:35:42
need to be, you know, able to take care of themselves and independent.
00:35:48
And here's fucking Joseph.
00:35:51
Fucking Joseph?
00:35:52
Yeah, how fucking dare he?
00:35:55
Oh, I would have done the same thing.
00:35:56
I would have been like, Mom, what the fuck are you doing?
00:35:58
Get in here.
00:36:00
There's no reason for this.
00:36:03
Because there wasn't.
00:36:05
He didn't even fight off the monsters.
00:36:07
As soon as they broke through, it blew up.
00:36:11
Look, it was so...
00:36:13
I hated it.
00:36:15
Well, that's your personal opinion.
00:36:17
Um, I thought that scene was incredibly moving.
00:36:20
I cried.
00:36:23
I had to stifle a couple heaves.
00:36:26
I got angry.
00:36:28
I got mad.
00:36:31
God, you've never been wronger.
00:36:34
I have actually, but...
00:36:37
That scene was very moving.
00:36:39
I enjoyed it a lot because yes, there could have been other options, but like
00:36:47
quick tally on the pros and cons list.
00:36:52
He's dead.
00:36:54
Like he's gotta, he's gotta go.
00:36:58
I don't think so, but...
00:37:01
I mean you knew somebody was gonna die.
00:37:03
Oh, I knew exactly what was gonna happen.
00:37:06
I just wanted them to make it make sense.
00:37:11
I wanted them to get in, realize that there wasn't enough room, and then him to
00:37:17
get out, make sure they're all in, shut it on them, and then go sacrifice himself.
00:37:21
That's what I wanted.
00:37:23
Because then it would have felt like someone's gonna die.
00:37:27
You know what I mean?
00:37:28
Where it's like, he's now realizing.
00:37:31
this is an absolute necessity that someone has to go and it's gonna be him.
00:37:38
Instead of just not even, he didn't even look at the fucking cooler.
00:37:40
He didn't even know the plan.
00:37:42
He woke up, started shooting and then killed himself.
00:37:44
Like it was.
00:37:47
Well, so here's the other thing.
00:37:49
Here's the other thing.
00:37:51
You can have your opinion.
00:37:53
I'm not gonna agree with it, but they lost their house.
00:37:58
Charlotte lost her house.
00:38:01
He's another mouth to feed and he's injured and they have to drag him around.
00:38:09
They don't have any more resources.
00:38:11
So another reason to sacrifice himself.
00:38:16
See, see, you're just a fucking hypocrite.
00:38:19
I'm sorry, you're a fucking hypocrite, because the whole, yeah, you, the whole
00:38:24
episode of Quiet Place, they explained it too much.
00:38:27
It's too explanation-y.
00:38:29
And here's a movie that didn't give you everything in the palm of your hand.
00:38:33
They made you think about it, and you're not even taking the fucking time to think
00:38:36
about it.
00:38:37
No, I did not say that the whole time in Quiet Place.
00:38:40
I said I didn't like the one scene where they're panning over the whiteboard that
00:38:45
says, "'Monsters can't hear!' Like, it was so stupid!
00:38:51
I didn't want them to go the complete opposite direction.
00:38:54
And actually, you're a hypocrite, because we literally just talked about this in our
00:38:57
episode on Cube, where we said, "'You can't go through it and answer no
00:39:01
questions.' So you're a hypocrite, not me.
00:39:04
This movie answers a ton of questions.
00:39:07
You just have to think.
00:39:09
You're just making up answers though.
00:39:12
No way!
00:39:14
think that scene between Joseph, no, Thomas and Charlotte, I had to look over
00:39:19
their names, Thomas and Charlotte where they're talking about, oh, the apocalypse
00:39:22
explained in 10 seconds, was not them trying to explain that nobody knows what
00:39:27
happened?
00:39:28
Yeah, but I just don't buy that nobody knows.
00:39:30
You were there for it.
00:39:31
Well, you know what?
00:39:33
Well, they weren't.
00:39:35
Nick was?
00:39:36
He's not gonna tell his kids?
00:39:39
Oh my god.
00:39:41
And if the world is like, you know, if the world comes to an end, I don't think
00:39:50
you're gonna know what happened always.
00:39:54
Alright.
00:39:54
Agree to disagree.
00:39:56
To be clear, I don't agree to disagree.
00:39:58
I think you're wrong, but you're welcome to agree to disagree.
00:40:02
Oh no, you're wrong, but we can move on.
00:40:05
Oh my god.
00:40:08
Do you want to know something I did like about the movie?
00:40:12
Sure.
00:40:13
So there is something.
00:40:15
Oh yeah, I didn't hate it at all.
00:40:17
I just had some issues with it.
00:40:22
I really liked their use of foreshadowing because I feel like typically you see
00:40:29
something in a movie, it focuses on it and you're like, okay, 30 to 40 minutes, this
00:40:33
is gonna come back and it's gonna be a part of this.
00:40:38
In this movie, it was like five minutes later.
00:40:41
And so I think...
00:40:42
When you're used to a formula and then they switch it up like that where the
00:40:46
foreshadowing was just coming into play way sooner than I expected it to, it
00:40:50
almost took me off guard.
00:40:53
Like when he fell into the ravine, I was like, I was not expecting this ravine to
00:40:56
come into play until later.
00:40:57
So I knew like, you know that one of the kids isn't going to make it to the
00:41:02
checkpoint in time.
00:41:03
Like, you know that as soon as they split up, you're like, okay, one of them's not
00:41:06
going to make it.
00:41:06
But I like that they kept you guessing about which one it was going to be until
00:41:09
the last minute.
00:41:11
And then him falling, I was like, oh shit, like when they focused on the ravine I was
00:41:15
expecting this to come in like maybe at the climax of the movie, that was gonna be
00:41:20
used in some way, not immediately.
00:41:24
Or even like the cage that he built, like you see him drawing the plans and stuff
00:41:28
and that he has this idea for it, but you don't realize he's already put it into
00:41:32
effect and it's ready.
00:41:34
So when the cage like fell on him, I was like, oh shit, okay.
00:41:38
It's happening already.
00:41:40
Yeah, I also like that they dropped like wrong Easter eggs.
00:41:50
Like I keep talking about this conversation that Thomas and Charlotte
00:41:52
have, where they're talking about, oh, and a bug bit you or blah, blah.
00:41:55
And then in the next scene, the next scene is kind of like the tension between,
00:41:59
somebody is gonna get hurt, is it Joseph or is it Thomas?
00:42:01
And Joseph's like in the bug swarm, we're like, fuck, he's gonna get bitten, he's
00:42:06
gonna get sick, and he's gonna turn into a monster or something.
00:42:08
I mean, that's...
00:42:09
where my brain went.
00:42:11
And then here's Thomas falling down that ravine that you saw.
00:42:15
I liked that a lot too.
00:42:17
Yeah, they used real cockroaches too.
00:42:21
Yeah, I bet you a dollar that the reptile place that I used to work at is who
00:42:31
sourced those.
00:42:33
Oh.
00:42:35
Yeah, I don't know.
00:42:36
They had a roach wrangler.
00:42:37
And I guess they were asked if they were squeamish about that.
00:42:41
And Maxwell Jenkins said, I was until they were all over me.
00:42:46
And that's my nightmare.
00:42:47
So I don't think I would handle that well.
00:42:51
Yeah, bugs are really exposure therapy, doesn't wonders for bugs.
00:42:55
I'm good.
00:42:56
No thanks.
00:42:57
I had to do that when I was working at that reptile store.
00:43:00
I know you did.
00:43:03
No thanks.
00:43:03
Good memories.
00:43:04
after I got used to it.
00:43:06
Yeah.
00:43:08
Nick Cage, in an interview that I thoroughly enjoyed, was asked what his
00:43:11
end-of-the-world snack would be.
00:43:13
Can you guess what he said?
00:43:15
I do not know Nicolas Cage enough to know the answer to this.
00:43:21
Oh, canned lentils.
00:43:24
He said they're high protein, low fat, vegan, and they would go really easily
00:43:28
with like a quick pesto.
00:43:30
I wasn't, I would have never guessed that.
00:43:32
Me neither, but I mean it's very practical.
00:43:35
Yeah, it's not a dumb answer.
00:43:37
No, not at all.
00:43:38
I would have said fucking Nerds Clusters.
00:43:42
That's all I care about.
00:43:44
Fuck your protein.
00:43:47
I have never thought about it because if I had to eat like one food in an apocalypse,
00:43:53
I think I'd just, I'm good.
00:43:55
Um, I don't want to do that.
00:43:58
Sounds terrible.
00:43:58
yeah.
00:43:59
I mean, for like a month, I'll eat the same food.
00:44:03
And then I have to have a new food to eat for a month.
00:44:05
No.
00:44:05
No, I do meal preps and by day four I'm like, okay.
00:44:11
I'm sick of it.
00:44:19
Okay, last thing I'll say critiquing this movie is the fucking shaky cam.
00:44:26
Holy shit!
00:44:27
So bad!
00:44:29
It was only in like a couple scenes, but it was so bad!
00:44:33
I think you just got used to it, because it was pretty much throughout the entire
00:44:36
thing.
00:44:38
Yeah.
00:44:38
the entire thing, but it was only like certain scenes.
00:44:41
It wasn't every scene.
00:44:42
But it's like, it would just be Nick Cage standing in a field and the camera was
00:44:47
like, moving, like I would have to try to have that unsteady of a hand.
00:44:53
Yeah.
00:44:55
Nick Cage, baby you reach out to me.
00:44:56
I'll pay for a tripod for your next movie, because that was crazy.
00:44:59
I don't understand.
00:45:00
Ha ha.
00:45:01
Yeah, that's literally the biggest critique I have about this movie is some
00:45:07
of the artistic decisions they made with the physical filming.
00:45:12
Yes, it felt almost like a found footage at some points.
00:45:17
Oh, no.
00:45:20
No.
00:45:22
Yeah.
00:45:22
That's one thing we can agree on.
00:45:24
Look at us go, finding some common ground.
00:45:27
Yeah, yeah, common ground.
00:45:30
I'll say something else about the monsters.
00:45:33
Two more things about the monsters.
00:45:36
Yeah, I got a lot of shit on the monsters.
00:45:38
Yeah, the sounds that the monsters made, not the clapper hand sounds, all the rest
00:45:45
of the sounds, were inspired by the 1942 movie Cat People.
00:45:50
Oh.
00:45:51
which the director Ben Brewer described as a really human-esque eerie sound coming
00:45:56
from something that looks very not human.
00:46:00
Okay.
00:46:01
He said it can't sound like it's coming from more than one throat.
00:46:05
That was a very specific criteria, he said.
00:46:09
And he wanted the sounds to be more focused on, like the body moving, as
00:46:15
opposed to the sound that they produce, because he wanted the visualization of
00:46:21
them to really stand out more than any noises that they made.
00:46:23
Which, and that's how we got the clapping.
00:46:29
which is like the only thing I remember about what they actually are or do.
00:46:34
Yeah.
00:46:34
Oh, yeah.
00:46:38
Yeah, would I-
00:46:38
one thing definitively I could tell you about them is that they made a stupid
00:46:41
clapping noise.
00:46:42
I don't know that I could tell you anything else about them.
00:46:45
Yeah, that was wild.
00:46:50
Yeah.
00:46:50
And do you wanna know my favorite fun fact about this movie?
00:46:54
always.
00:46:57
So they had a name for the monsters on set.
00:47:02
They called them Mrs.
00:47:04
Jones, no, sorry, Mr.
00:47:06
Jones, because they're making fun of their line producer who was really into counting
00:47:12
crows.
00:47:15
Oh, that's amazing.
00:47:18
they named him Mr.
00:47:19
Jones.
00:47:22
Well, I love that.
00:47:23
Me too.
00:47:25
Mr.
00:47:25
Jones and me!
00:47:27
Yeah, apparently they played that song constantly whenever they weren't rolling.
00:47:32
Yeah.
00:47:34
a great song.
00:47:37
It is.
00:47:37
nothing to be ashamed of to be a fan of Counting Crows.
00:47:41
I have never once...
00:47:43
I think that might be the only song I know from them, but I'm sure they have more.
00:47:48
They do songs in Shrek.
00:47:50
Oh.
00:47:54
I know the Shrek songs and then Mr.
00:47:57
Jones.
00:47:57
You don't know which Shrek shong, ooh, that's hard to say.
00:48:00
Shrek.
00:48:00
Ha ha ha.
00:48:01
ha.
00:48:07
You don't know which Shrek shro- I did it!
00:48:14
No!
00:48:16
Not the breath to try again just to fuck it up.
00:48:21
Yeah, you don't know which ones.
00:48:23
Which I like, I don't even attempt it again.
00:48:29
Also fun fact, when I was going to see this, four hours ago, I walked by a
00:48:35
theater and they were playing Shrek 2, cause it's like back in theaters.
00:48:40
And I almost just snuck right in and watched that instead.
00:48:44
Well, I don't blame you.
00:48:48
The end of that movie is a masterpiece.
00:48:50
I mean the whole movie, but the end especially.
00:48:53
Yeah, it's really hard to like be on the caliber of Shrek 2.
00:48:59
Yeah.
00:49:00
Not everyone can make a piece of cinema that good.
00:49:05
I agree.
00:49:06
Thank you.
00:49:09
Well, should we rate it?
00:49:12
I think we should.
00:49:13
Yeah.
00:49:13
I think we should.
00:49:14
Okay.
00:49:14
Uh, how scary did you think it was?
00:49:18
1.5 because the first jump scare did get me when he's with the bugs and it like
00:49:27
flies at him.
00:49:31
Isn't it?
00:49:32
Oh is that not?
00:49:33
I feel like maybe it was just the first one that I noticed because it got me but
00:49:38
yeah that one got me and then there were definitely moments of tension like when
00:49:41
the
00:49:47
there were moments of tension where I was definitely like on the edge of my seat,
00:49:51
like, holy shit, what's gonna happen?
00:49:53
And it kinda got more action-y by the end, but what about you?
00:50:00
I gave it a two and a half.
00:50:01
Ooh, okay.
00:50:03
I give it a full point just for like the general tone.
00:50:08
Spooky.
00:50:10
And just lots of tension that was like nerve wracking for me.
00:50:14
And then 0.5 for the finger scene.
00:50:18
Really fucking freaked me out.
00:50:21
How honestly, I went like a still.
00:50:23
Oh, I just like hit my mic.
00:50:24
I'm so sorry.
00:50:26
Did you hear that?
00:50:27
Apologies to everybody.
00:50:31
I want a still of that.
00:50:32
That was such a cool scene.
00:50:37
It just kept.
00:50:39
Yes.
00:50:41
I liked that a lot.
00:50:43
Yeah.
00:50:45
Great shot.
00:50:49
Yeah.
00:50:51
How sexy did you think it was?
00:50:53
Um, I didn't really.
00:50:56
I mean I do like the cage so I gave it a 1.5.
00:50:58
Um, but, and you know it's, it's monsters.
00:51:07
They make weird noises.
00:51:09
They do weird stuff with their bodies.
00:51:11
You know it's just, you know, it's just a 1.5.
00:51:15
Yeah.
00:51:16
What about you?
00:51:17
I give it a two.
00:51:20
Just because like, like protective Zaddy Nick Cage was, you know, I didn't mind
00:51:27
that.
00:51:29
Um, and then, you know, they're monsters.
00:51:33
Or, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to say no.
00:51:38
No matter how weird they are or inconsistent.
00:51:41
Not physically, but.
00:51:42
Ha ha ha.
00:51:44
That's your favorite fucking joke.
00:51:47
God, if I had a dollar for every time you told me that joke.
00:51:51
Stop laughing at it.
00:51:52
You won't, because it's funny.
00:51:54
Gets them every time.
00:51:54
Ha ha ha.
00:51:55
It does.
00:51:59
Um, how fucked up did you think it was?
00:52:03
I said one.
00:52:05
Cause I couldn't really think of anything that was like, crazy, really.
00:52:12
I feel like a lot of it is stuff I've seen before, but like in a new way, you know?
00:52:18
It wasn't a, it was definitely a unique film.
00:52:23
It had semblance of other films that you could definitely relate it to, but it was
00:52:27
a solid, unique take on something new.
00:52:30
But nothing too crazy.
00:52:31
Yeah.
00:52:33
I gave it a 1.5.
00:52:34
Kind of for the same reasons, honestly.
00:52:37
Because it was fresh take.
00:52:43
Take someone fucked up to think of that monster.
00:52:48
Yeah.
00:52:50
God, so confusing.
00:52:52
But yeah, I mean, and they were like, they were pretty like, oh, that's kind of
00:52:57
fucking weird.
00:52:58
You know what I mean?
00:52:58
Like, yeah, so 1.5.
00:53:03
That's fair.
00:53:04
Yeah.
00:53:06
Overall, what'd you think?
00:53:09
See, I don't want either of our answers to be influenced by anybody else.
00:53:13
So I think we should, I have mine written down, right?
00:53:19
Okay, mine's written down.
00:53:21
Okay, you go first.
00:53:24
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
00:53:26
On three or after three.
00:53:28
No, on three.
00:53:30
No, wait, one, two, three, go.
00:53:33
Okay, ready?
00:53:36
One, two, three, 4.5.
00:53:37
Three.
00:53:40
Wow.
00:53:41
I'm honestly surprised by your three.
00:53:42
I thought it was going to be lower.
00:53:43
I'm not mad.
00:53:45
I thought yours was going to be a four.
00:53:47
This is a little higher than I thought.
00:53:49
I really liked this movie.
00:53:52
And what made what I think I'm a little skewed in what made me like this movie is
00:53:57
because my dad and Dylan fucking hated it.
00:54:00
That made me love it.
00:54:01
I was like, I can't believe I just made you watch that.
00:54:06
Oh my God, I love that.
00:54:07
That brought me so much joy to have them look so confused.
00:54:11
And just like you, they were like, they didn't explain anything and here I am
00:54:14
like.
00:54:14
That's crazy.
00:54:15
You're all wrong.
00:54:17
I only took away half a point because the shaky cam made me wanna throw up.
00:54:23
That was a lot.
00:54:24
And then, like I said, some of the like literal, I mean, it was one of them, but
00:54:29
some of the literal camera decisions, like the decisions they made with
00:54:32
cinematography were questionable.
00:54:35
But fuck, like it has everything.
00:54:39
It's got emotion, it's got a weird fucking monster that you've never seen before that
00:54:44
made you go, what the fuck?
00:54:45
It's got scary scenes, it's got cute scenes, it's got funny shit, it's got Nick
00:54:50
Cage.
00:54:50
What more could you possibly want?
00:54:53
You and your fucking three.
00:54:54
Why did you give it a three?
00:54:57
This is like The Menu all over again.
00:55:01
Reversed.
00:55:04
No.
00:55:06
Put in in Reverse Terry.
00:55:12
No, but I gave it a three.
00:55:15
I struggled with this.
00:55:16
I think if you had asked me at the end of the first act, I would have said at least
00:55:21
a four.
00:55:22
I was really, really into it.
00:55:27
And then I just like, I kept waiting for like something.
00:55:34
And it just never came.
00:55:35
And so I think, again, my overall like biggest issue with it is that it just kind
00:55:39
of felt a little underdeveloped.
00:55:41
I think if they had like thought out the script, maybe a month more, it could have
00:55:47
been a four, 4.5.
00:55:50
I needed a little bit more world building.
00:55:51
I needed them to utilize Nick Cage a little bit more in the last act.
00:55:56
I didn't mind the fact that he was unconscious for some of it, because I
00:55:59
think that was unexpected.
00:56:02
And it really helped us kind of focus on the brother relationship a little bit
00:56:05
more.
00:56:05
So I didn't mind that.
00:56:07
But I think at the ending, obviously, the whole I have issues with the sacrifice
00:56:10
thing.
00:56:11
And that just kind of fell apart for me a little bit.
00:56:15
So yeah, I just I needed them to push it just like a little bit further.
00:56:20
and then I would have liked it a lot more.
00:56:21
But I did really enjoy it.
00:56:22
Like a three is not a bad score.
00:56:24
I did really enjoy it.
00:56:25
I still would recommend it.
00:56:26
It was not a bad way to spend an hour and a half.
00:56:29
And that was good too.
00:56:30
I think every movie should be an hour and a half, but that's a personal.
00:56:35
That's the perfect movie length.
00:56:39
So yeah, and I really loved the monsters.
00:56:42
Like we talked about it a lot, but it was fun to see something unique and different.
00:56:47
even a little bit zany at times, but yeah, I would definitely not be opposed to
00:56:53
getting like a prequel or a sequel or something to this.
00:56:57
Nice.
00:56:57
Yeah.
00:56:58
A 3 out of 5 is a 60%.
00:57:03
Okay.
00:57:04
You say it's not a bad score.
00:57:06
I mean, it's not a good score.
00:57:09
It's not a bad score.
00:57:10
Ha ha ha.
00:57:12
It's not passing.
00:57:14
still movies that I like that are three out of five.
00:57:19
It just means that I, yeah I do, I just had some issues with it.
00:57:25
Yeah, it was, like I didn't hate it at all, like I thoroughly enjoyed my time in
00:57:28
the theater.
00:57:30
Um, but yeah, I think I just had some issues with it.
00:57:37
That's all.
00:57:39
Yeah, well, this movie was...
00:57:42
again when we disagreed.
00:57:44
Yeah, yeah.
00:57:46
This honestly, like if they had just had a fucking steady cam, seriously, this movie
00:57:54
would have been five easy.
00:57:56
Easy.
00:57:57
Well, good.
00:57:58
I mean, I'm glad you liked it.
00:58:01
Yeah.
00:58:02
funny because you're aligned with the audience and I'm aligned with the critics.
00:58:06
a little bit in between.
00:58:08
I would not give this a rotten score.
00:58:12
60 is a rotten score.
00:58:14
No, it has to be in the 50s to be rotten on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:58:19
No!
00:58:21
I promise.
00:58:23
I don't think so.
00:58:26
Rotten score on rotten tomatoes.
00:58:33
When at least 60% of reviews for a movie are positive, a red tomato is indicated.
00:58:38
Less than 60% is a green splat.
00:58:44
Who was right and who was wrong?
00:58:45
Well, you won't let me do .25s.
00:58:47
Otherwise, this would probably be a 3.25.
00:58:51
Ha!
00:58:51
now.
00:58:52
If you wanna start with this movie, I'll up mine to a 4.75.
00:58:58
and you do whatever you want.
00:59:01
I'd have to go back and re-rate all of the movies I did.
00:59:06
There were so many times I wanted to do that.
00:59:11
I'm into it.
00:59:14
Really?
00:59:14
Oh yeah, it's literally just a shaky cam, but that has a huge impact on the
00:59:19
watchability of a movie.
00:59:21
So you gotta take away some.
00:59:23
I normally like, I'll watch found footage movies and it doesn't really bother me
00:59:27
that much, but it, I did not like it in this one.
00:59:31
because it wasn't found footage.
00:59:33
Yeah, it really does.
00:59:36
it puts you in it.
00:59:39
That's what it is.
00:59:41
That's it, yeah.
00:59:44
I guess the real question though is would you survive?
00:59:48
No.
00:59:51
Not even fucking close.
00:59:53
I'm shitting and pissing.
00:59:54
The second I see one of those fingers, holy fuck.
00:59:58
Yikes.
01:00:00
I don't have survival instincts.
01:00:02
didn't get the whole survival upbringing.
01:00:07
I mean, I guess if I was in their position and it's hard to say because if I was not
01:00:13
me, yeah, I'd live, totally.
01:00:17
But I am, so.
01:00:23
Yeah, I just, I don't, yeah, and I don't wanna, you know, you know, yeah, I don't
01:00:31
even wanna now, let alone then.
01:00:36
No, would you?
01:00:39
Yeah.
01:00:40
No, I don't think so.
01:00:41
Yeah, it's not surprising.
01:00:44
Thanks.
01:00:47
I mean, it's...
01:00:48
not a lot of people are living.
01:00:51
No.
01:00:52
Literally just them and one other family.
01:00:55
Yeah, and I love my mom, but like if it was that situation of like me and my
01:00:59
sister were babies when the apocalypse happened and my mom had to keep us alive,
01:01:05
she's scrappy, but...
01:01:10
She's also much too kind.
01:01:12
And yeah, she always says if like a zombie apocalypse happened, she'd be dead in an
01:01:19
instant because someone would knock on her door and be like, help me and she'd be
01:01:22
like, okay.
01:01:24
Dead.
01:01:27
She said, if a zombie apocalypse happens, don't be one of those people who travels
01:01:30
across America trying to find their parents.
01:01:32
I'm already dead.
01:01:33
Hahaha!
01:01:36
Yeah.
01:01:40
All right, well, would you like to predict the plot of next week's film?
01:01:46
Okay for our 69th episode we have
01:01:52
I'm gonna get full frontal nudity in this movie.
01:01:56
I-
01:01:56
I genuinely don't remember if there was nudity.
01:01:58
It's been a couple years since I've seen this.
01:01:59
And if there was nudity, that's not what you would remember from it.
01:02:05
It is a French horror film.
01:02:07
Ha ha ha.
01:02:08
Oh boy.
01:02:10
Oh, I do love a French horror film.
01:02:14
We gotta go back to our roots of our first foreign film, which was Martyrs.
01:02:20
No, wait, our first foreign film was Train to Busan.
01:02:22
I'm a liar.
01:02:24
One of our first foreign films.
01:02:27
It's called Raw.
01:02:29
Oh, okay.
01:02:31
Oh, I love when people eat each other.
01:02:38
That's what that movie's about.
01:02:42
Yeah, this movie's about a couple.
01:02:44
I think Timothee Chalamet's in it.
01:02:46
Okay.
01:02:48
I think.
01:02:49
Lil Timmy Tim?
01:02:52
Tim-a-tay.
01:02:54
Okay.
01:02:56
What happens to him?
01:02:56
think he and his girlfriend join a cult.
01:03:03
And the cult eats people.
01:03:07
And they know, because a lot of times in like the people eating movies, they don't
01:03:13
know that they're eating people.
01:03:15
But these kids fucking know they're eating people.
01:03:17
They know.
01:03:18
He's super into it, she's not quite into it yet, so he has to convince her to eat
01:03:26
people.
01:03:28
And it's kinda like Midsommar, where they age out, and that's when you, instead of
01:03:36
jumping off a cliff and falling into terrible, yeah, they just eat you.
01:03:43
Okay.
01:03:45
Um, and yeah, so you eat, you eat a person and then you're in the cult.
01:03:50
The girl goes along to some of the cult meetings a few times.
01:03:53
Mm-hmm.
01:03:55
uh to try to you know do I want to eat people I don't know
01:04:01
Not sure.
01:04:03
and they have sex and eat people.
01:04:06
Great.
01:04:08
Yeah, and probably she doesn't like that at the end.
01:04:14
Like, you know, you have to eat people.
01:04:19
So I don't think she makes it.
01:04:23
I think either they kill her because she's like, I'm not doing it anymore.
01:04:27
Or maybe she kind of off's herself.
01:04:33
Who knows?
01:04:35
You do, because you've seen it.
01:04:36
I have seen it, yeah.
01:04:41
Great.
01:04:44
You are thinking of the film, Bones and All.
01:04:47
Oh!
01:04:47
Dammit!
01:04:49
Son of a bitch.
01:04:50
You see I knew my wires were crossed, but as soon as I said Timothee Chalamet I was
01:04:53
like, that might not be this movie.
01:04:54
But I ran with it.
01:04:56
No, yeah, you did.
01:04:58
That is not this film.
01:05:00
So, sorry.
01:05:04
You know what?
01:05:04
I actually have not seen Bones and All.
01:05:06
It is on my watch list.
01:05:08
I know.
01:05:09
There you go.
01:05:10
The one horror movie I have yet to see.
01:05:13
Yeah, I'm gonna get into a people eating mood.
01:05:15
I'm gonna watch all of them.
01:05:16
Uh oh!
01:05:17
Careful, I have some more on our list, so...
01:05:21
Oof.
01:05:22
Speaking of things on the list that I watched when I wasn't supposed to.
01:05:27
Oh, kd!
01:05:30
What did you watch?
01:05:31
it's like way down the line.
01:05:34
And it's not even a real movie because it's a Hulu original.
01:05:38
I watched, well, and I also watched the original.
01:05:42
I watched Predator and I watched Prey.
01:05:46
I know you sent me some memes about it, I think.
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I don't remember what you sent me.
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A TikTok.
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okay, so we went to the San Diego Zoo.
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A few weeks ago, we went to the San Diego Zoo and there's this exhibit where you can
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walk in with some of the birds and one of the birds was fucking screaming.
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I should play the sound.
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Let me just play the sound.
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Because it's just, it's something.
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Okay, I'm gonna find it.
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Okay.
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So where could I find it?
01:06:19
Oh I know, I can search bird.
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Okay, here it comes.
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Oh, that's loud!
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So that's that.
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We'll adjust the volume for you.
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But the bird, the bird, it's called a screaming bird.
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It's called
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a Screaming Piha.
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P-I-H-A, and in Predator, in the background, you can hear that bird several
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times.
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So I just thought that was fun and cute.
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And then Dylan bullied me also into watching Prey, which was very good.
01:06:56
Yeah, that is...
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Definitely example of a sequel being, in my opinion, better than the original.
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Well, I guess prequel being better than the original.
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I thought Prey was fucking fantastic.
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And Predator's fine, it's not my favorite, but.
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Yeah, I was...
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I got a fun quote out of it that I can use on the daily.
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Oh great, which one?
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Dylan, you son of a bitch!
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There you go.
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I say that constantly now.
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As you should.
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Great.
01:07:32
Anyway, a little tangent.
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Yeah, you know, it wouldn't be an episode if we didn't go on a little tangy.
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Yeah.
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I've never abbreviated that in my life.
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I don't know why I started today.
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But.
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a little tangy.
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All right, well, see you next week when we talk about Raw, starring not Timothee
01:07:56
Chalamet.
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Unfortunately.
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Ugh.
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But yeah, thanks for listening.
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And...
01:08:05
oh?
01:08:07
Yeah, no, of course.
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no, I don't need to.
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We can go.
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I was just, I mean, well, what I was gonna say doesn't make any sense to say now.
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Because people who have, sorry.
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Just why I just wanna say one more thing.
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Just if you haven't seen this movie, which why are you listening all the way an hour
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and 10 minutes into this podcast?
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Just please go into it without knowing anything.
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It was way more fun that way.
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I told everybody to just go into it without knowing anything.
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It's fine.
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Okay, that's all.
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Okay, we can go now.
01:08:36
Sorry.
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Go into it without knowing anything except the entire plot that we just talked about.
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hour and 10 minutes that we just spoiled for you.
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Sorry, maybe we can like rearrange this or something.
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We'll splice this and put it at the beginning.
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Great, yeah.
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Thanks for listening.
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See you next week, bye!
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Bye.