Cube is a 1997 Canadian horror film starring Nicole de Boer (Private Eyes), Maurice Dean Wint (SurrealEstate), and David Hewlett (Stargate: Atlantis), in which a bunch of strangers need to fight their way out of a deadly cube-shaped prison.
Autism representation in the media, by blogger Aoife: https://aisforaoifenotautism.com/category/autism-on-screen/
Behind the scenes of Cube: https://twitter.com/vashikoo/status/1283936843025670146
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Hello?
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Hi.
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Welcome back to Killer Cuties Podcast.
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Happy Tuesday!
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Happy Tuesday indeed.
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We're here.
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We're at the start of the week.
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But we can do it.
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We can make it through.
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Oh my gosh, it is April.
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Time is flying.
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I know.
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Pretty soon it'll be New Year's Eve.
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Just kidding.
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Let's enjoy the summer first.
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What?
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Then it would be the day I would have the day off.
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Great.
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Anyway, we've got horror news.
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Horror news!
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You start.
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Okay, two small pieces of news for me.
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One, the production team behind Terrifier and Terrifier 2 have another upcoming
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movie this year called Stream.
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We don't have a release date yet, but we do have a teaser trailer, so you can check
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that out.
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And then the other one is a little piece of casting news for Fear Street Prom
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Queen, which is gonna be the next installment in the Fear Street series that
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is on Netflix based on the...
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R .L.
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Stein books.
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But they've announced some of the cast that's come out of the project, Katherine
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Waterston, Lily Taylor, Chris Klein, a la American Pie fame.
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And a few more people, it's going to be an ensemble cast.
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So that's exciting.
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Production's moving along there.
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Yeah.
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was gonna ask if it was R.L.
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Stein.
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Yeah.
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I have a little bit girthier one.
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It's girthy.
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So, Alien Romulus is slated for release August 16th of this year.
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I know, it's coming soon.
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I haven't even seen all the Alien movies, so I don't know why I'm excited about it.
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We've got some details about the special effects.
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Mmm!
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Um, the director Alvarez.
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What's his first name?
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Fetty?
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Fede?
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Director Fede Alvarez.
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Uh, he really committed to using the same techniques that were used in Aliens.
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Used very limited CGI.
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If any at all.
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He says he basically hates green screens.
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So all of the creatures, all the sets were built so that everyone could be really
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immersed in the story.
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He worked with the crew, the original crew from Aliens, also from the
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from the 86 film Aliens.
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Those crews started on that movie and now they have decades of experience, they all
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have their own shops.
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He brought everyone together to work on all the creatures and every single
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creature is animatronic or a puppet.
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So he said that Ridley Scott even got to see the movie without VFX and CGI and got
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literally the full experience because there's that little being used.
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It's not surprising.
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He's kind of known for preferring practical effects.
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And I think we literally just talked about this, that I had told you he did the 2013
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Evil Dead and Jane Levy did an interview where she was like, yeah, I came on set.
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He was like, today you're getting buried alive.
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And that's what happened.
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So very unsurprising news, but still exciting because I am a practical effects
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fan.
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Same.
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Nice.
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Do you want to hear all the new movies that are coming out in April?
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Well, I'm not going to tell you all of them.
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I'm going to tell you the horror movies that are coming out in April.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Just to clarify.
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So we've got quite a few.
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And keep in mind, some of these are wide releases.
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Some are video on demand, streaming, limited release.
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You know the drill.
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On April 5th, we have The First Omen.
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April 11th, we have All You Need Is Death.
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April 12th, we actually have three: In Flames, Arcadian, and Sting.
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And then April 19th, we have Abigail.
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April 26th, we have Humane, Bloodline Killer, and Cinderella's Revenge.
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Is that part of the Poohniverse?
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I don't think officially, but one can hope eventually it will be, we'll get a
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crossover film maybe.
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my god, a Disney princess crossover horror film.
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Oh my god, can you imagine?
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That's where it's at.
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Oh, that would be incredible.
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Some of the people that we follow on TikTok, I've already seen Sting.
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Mm.
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And they didn't like it.
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Oh no!
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They did have high praise for the monsters of the movie without giving away too much.
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They didn't have high praise for that.
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But the story kind of fell flat.
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Supposedly.
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Well...
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I know?
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I haven't seen it yet.
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It's just the tea.
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Mm -hmm.
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Yeah.
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Well, nice.
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Do you want to talk about Cube?
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Uh...
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yeah.
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Do you?
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Oh, so badly.
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Oh!
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All right, cool.
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I will give a little rundown.
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So from IMDb, a group of strangers are raking, oh, let me try that again.
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A group of strangers awakened to find themselves placed in a giant, you guessed
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it, cube.
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Each one of them is gifted with a special skill and they must work together to
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escape an endless maze of deadly traps.
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Dun, dun, dun.
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It was directed by Vincenzo Natali
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written by André Bijelic I'm trying hard here.
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These are a lot of names that are not common for me.
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Graeme Manson and Vincenzo Natali also helped write it.
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And then it stars Nicole de Boer and Maurice Dean Wint, as well as a few
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others.
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It is an ensemble cast.
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Currently has a 63 % on Rotten Tomatoes and a 7 .1 on IMDB.
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Wow.
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That's higher than Final Girls.
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Not that these movies have anything to do with each other at all.
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We just did it.
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But I think Final Girls has a higher Rotten Tomatoes, but a lower IMDb.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It was a movie.
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Wasn't it?
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It was, yeah, it was a film.
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I watched it.
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Yeah.
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Did you?
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I did watch it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I have watched it a few times.
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Yeah, yeah, not my first rodeo.
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Do you have any fun facts?
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Sorry, I was putting lotion on.
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I realized now's not the time, but.
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I wasn't sure what you were doing under the table.
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Okay, it was lotion.
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Thank you very much.
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I'll just start us off on a really high note.
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I'll tell you my favorite fact.
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As everybody knows, the entire movie is set inside of a cube.
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Yeah.
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and they filmed entirely in one small cube.
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So the set was literally just one cube that they changed to different colors with
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gel panels and they filmed it in color order versus sequentially.
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So they started with the red room shots, which apparently the actors hated being in
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the red room.
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They said that it was psychologically just draining to be in the cube when it was
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red.
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The director originally wanted to shoot the film in chronological order, but they
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just couldn't.
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It would take way too much time to redo the gel panels.
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Yeah.
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So that's kind of fun.
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Yeah, there's actually a photo of the cube from like behind the scenes.
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We'll have to link it, but it is kind of cool to see.
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Like it's just this giant fucking cube, which I don't know what you would think it
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would be.
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It's called cube, but it's just kind of cool to see it.
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There's not even one open side.
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So in the photo I saw there is an open side and then everything else is there.
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But it looks like it's still being built.
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So I don't know if that was how they did it initia- or ended up doing it.
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I don't know if they just used one of the like doors to film through or what, but.
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Interesting.
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The doors are made out of handles that are industrial die holders, I guess, for
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cutting threads on rods.
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That's a lot of words.
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I don't know why they go in that order, but they do, apparently.
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It's an industrial die holder used for cutting threads on rods.
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But anyway, I looked it up.
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You can get them on Amazon for 10 bucks.
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Wow!
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$10!
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What a steal.
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For a movie prop.
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yeah, essentially, yeah.
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If you're a fan of the movie, totally.
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You're like, yeah, I knew a guy.
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Yeah, it's from the critically acclaimed Canadian film Cube.
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You've probably never heard of it.
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You've probably never heard of it.
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Um, yeah, they, I know they filmed the red scenes first and I think it was, um, Oh my
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gosh.
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What was his name?
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He plays Worth.
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Let me look it up.
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Let me look up his name.
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Hold on.
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I don't, Oh, David Hewlett.
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Um, so the red cube scenes were really dialogue heavy.
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Because a lot of the times they said that the color of the room doesn't have
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anything to do with if there's a trap in there or not, but it does kind of
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correlate to the mood of what's happening in the story.
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So like white rooms were for discoveries and red rooms were kind of for conflict.
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And so there were a lot of dialogue heavy scenes and David Hewlett basically said
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that.
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He was really nervous to do that because that's what they were filming first.
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And he has his whole big rant to Holloway about the conspiracy and whether or not
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that's real and stuff.
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And at the end of it, his rant, he says, "Well, I feel better." He was like, I
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really felt that because he did feel better.
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Because every scene after that wasn't going to be super dependent on him being
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able to memorize his lines.
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So, yeah.
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Cool, wrap it up.
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that's it.
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That's all.
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No, I was watching an interview with the director.
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He said he was ultimately grateful that they had the budget limitations that they
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had.
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He said it made the film better, forced us to be more creative and be more
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constrained and intentional in the way we delegated our special effects and to rely
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more on the human story.
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which according to him is where, I mean, I can agree with it.
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A lot of science fiction films tend to fall short.
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They really rely heavily on their set building and their monster building, which
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Fede, Romulus.
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Don't overdo it.
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Ha!
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But yeah, I thought that was an interesting take on having a low budget.
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Yeah, I feel like it's, it obviously kind of reminds me a little bit of Saw because
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it's very one room based, these traps, you know, very similar.
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Yeah, personally, I like Saw better, but.
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The critics on Rotten Tomatoes like this better, so what are you gonna do?
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yeah.
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And I almost don't even, like to your point, it is really close to Saw to me.
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It doesn't feel like sci -fi to me.
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The director also said that it's about a group of people who've been swallowed by
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technology or have been swallowed by like an abstract geometric world.
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and that he was trying to make that a reflection of the actual world that we
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live in.
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Because to some degree we are kind of being...
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swallowed by technology.
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We're relying a lot on AI and we had our noses in our phones.
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So I thought that was an interesting...
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take.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that does make sense.
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That would be the inspiration here.
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Um, fun fact, Nicole de Boer who plays Leaven, flunked, yeah, she flunked math in
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school.
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So she's not a mathematician in real life.
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But also something I noticed on this rewatch is the first time that she's shown
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figuring out when she thinks that the safe rooms are based on prime numbers.
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Mm -hmm.
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The first two numbers she reads end in a five and a two, and she has to think about
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it for a minute.
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And she's supposed to be a math genius.
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Yeah.
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I consider myself good at math.
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I am by no means a genius at math.
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And I know that two and five are automatically not prime numbers unless it
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is two and five.
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So.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah, that is...
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That was the first thing...
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The one that...
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The first number she reads out ends in a five.
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And she's like, is it prime?
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Thinking about it.
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And I'm like, bitch, it's five.
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It's divisible by five.
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Yes.
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But also, I guess someone did the math.
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There were a lot of- the goofs in this, are a lot of people just complaining about
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the math, which I think is really funny.
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Because apparently when she says, it's astronomical, like how many options there
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are and stuff, someone like wrote out.
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how simple it actually comes down to.
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They're like, there's four numbers that are this, there's three that are, and I
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was like, babe, you're saying a lot of words that mean nothing to me, but they
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should have meant something to Leaven, so I'm gonna give you that.
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And then also they were breaking down what Kazan said, because apparently he got
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stuff wrong, and he's supposed to be a savant, so they said the...
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He makes several mistakes when calculating the number of prime factors to find out
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whether a room is trapped or not.
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He says that 462 has three prime factors when it has four and that 206 has four
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when it only has two and that 563 has two and 911 has three when both are actually
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prime numbers.
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So people were just like going in.
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The math wasn't mathing.
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Apparently you didn't even have to be a genius to get out of that maze because
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everybody on the internet knows better than...
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I guess.
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I mean, we also have the internet to fact check it.
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And they were in a cube.
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So.
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But you would think that if you were gonna make a movie that's plot pretty much
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revolves around math, that you would make sure the math was right.
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You would think.
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Yeah.
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It's funny that you bring this up though because I was watching an interview with
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the girl who plays.
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- is the mathematician?
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And she said, yeah, I know some of the math is wrong, but I thought that she was
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just...
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I didn't realize it was this big of a thing.
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People are really up in arms about it.
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I mean, I didn't find any Reddit threads of people complaining about it, but the
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IMDb goof section was popping off.
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All right, well, excuse me just one second.
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I'm just going to use my phone.
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Oh great, yeah.
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to start a thread on Reddit.
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That was the joke.
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The joke was I was gonna, nevermind.
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I was picking up what you were putting down, but yeah, for the listeners at home,
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I'm glad you clarified.
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Yeah
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How do we feel about the savant thing, by the way?
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Yeah.
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Um.
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I am not autistic.
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So I, it's not really for me to speak on, but I will say that I did read a post,
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there's an autistic blogger who basically goes through movies and kind of comments
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on the autistic representation in them.
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Mm -hmm.
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it's almost never good because Hollywood loves one specific stereotype and that's
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what's portrayed here.
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And so she was kind of talking about how, yes, some of his stims and sensory issues
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were kind of accurate, but it's just a really stereotypical portrayal that
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Hollywood's done time and time and time again.
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And it's really...
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upsetting when that's like the only or like the main representation that autism
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gets on screen because in reality it's such a huge huge spectrum and it's such a
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small amount of people that actually fall under that you know stereotype.
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Yeah, there were some people that were arguing like, oh, well, he helped progress
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the plot because he, you
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called out the colors, he put a little bit of danger in having to go into a quiet
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room.
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But I mean, I don't think that that was necessary.
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His ultimate purpose was to solve the mathematical equations, which we already
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have that character.
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So, and the other characters were good at building tensions amongst themselves with
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before he showed up, I don't know.
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It just, it felt like a reach to include him.
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Like it wasn't necessary.
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And to your point, it was just a stereotypical, like the one stereotype
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that they use in Hollywood repeatedly.
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Yeah.
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And I mean.
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In its defense, this movie did come out in 1997.
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I don't think that that was as common of a stereotype that you see today.
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A funny comment that I did see though on the blog post was someone was just like, I
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didn't find this nearly as offensive as The Good Doctor.
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I thought that was really funny, but yeah, I kind of agree.
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It's hard again, because I...
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I'm not, so I can't say if this is offensive.
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I do think that everybody's treatment of him was not right, but I also think that
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they kind of showed that that wasn't, like you were supposed to know that they
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weren't treating him well.
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And that was kind of like a main point of it.
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But I even think like Holloway's character, who's supposed to be the one
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helping him and advocating for him is also infantilizing him a lot.
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Mm -hmm.
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like a child, which is something that, you know, a lot of people have fought really
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hard to stop that.
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Like they're so, how did he get this far?
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Like he's here.
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So like, why are you that surprised?
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He's doing fine.
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You don't need to infantilize him.
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He made it this far.
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So, but yeah.
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think that it was portrayed offensively at all.
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I just think it was not portrayed...
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ideally or like creatively and not even creatively just like optimally.
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And it was just kind of gimmicky for me.
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Yeah, I feel like because we've now seen that stereotype so many times and that's
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like what you almost expect Hollywood to do, it's really just tiresome.
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And so it just doesn't add anything new.
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But again, it came out in the 90s, so.
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I don't know, it's one of those things where I'm kind of on the fence about it
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and I feel like there are smarter, more well -equipped people than me to decide if
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it's okay or not.
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Yeah, I'm on the spectrum and I don't even, like I'm not even qualified to
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determine what, but I don't think that it was offensively done, which in the 90s was
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very easy for movies to get away with that being offensively done.
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So I'm not mad at it, but I do feel like it was gimmicky, is my TLDR.
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yeah, oh, 100%.
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I feel like that's a very fair interpretation of it.
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I like that all of the characters' names are based off of prisons.
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I think that that's kind of fun.
00:23:42
So for anybody who doesn't know this fun fact, Kazan's character is based off of
00:23:47
Kazan Prison in Russia.
00:23:49
Leaven and Worth are both characters, which is obviously Leavenworth Prison in
00:23:53
the US.
00:23:54
Quentin is a character, San Quentin.
00:23:58
Holloway is Holloway Women's Prison in the UK.
00:24:01
Rennes is a Centre pénitentiaire de Rennes in France.
00:24:07
And that was probably a...
00:24:10
butchering of how to say that.
00:24:15
Rennes?
00:24:16
Oh.
00:24:18
They do.
00:24:20
Wrens, yeah.
00:24:22
My b, my b.
00:24:24
And then the very short appearance of Alderson is based off of Alderson Federal
00:24:29
Prison Camp in the US.
00:24:33
Very cool.
00:24:34
They're all kind of tied to the prisons too.
00:24:40
So like Kazan is the one who is on the spectrum.
00:24:45
That was a prison for the mentally ill.
00:24:48
Rennes is a French jail that pioneered a lot of today's prison policies.
00:24:55
And Rennes, as a reminder is a character that's like always escaping prison.
00:24:59
So, and then Quentin is...
00:25:03
The detective, that's a really brutal prison supposedly, Holloway's a women's
00:25:08
prison.
00:25:09
And then Alderson is a prison where isolation is a common punishment and that
00:25:14
is the only character that the entire time we see them, they're alone.
00:25:19
Yeah.
00:25:20
Which...
00:25:21
Holy shit!
00:25:24
I loved that scene.
00:25:26
That was fun.
00:25:28
Yeah.
00:25:29
Yeah.
00:25:30
I knew exactly what happened when it happened, which was almost better because
00:25:34
I was like, oh yeah, give it to me, give it to me.
00:25:36
And then he starts falling apart.
00:25:38
Oh, it was wonderful.
00:25:41
Yeah, I do like though that they kind of correlated it to the prisons, but I do
00:25:47
think it's really funny that they were like, Holloway, woman, women's prison.
00:25:57
That was just funny to me.
00:25:59
They all seemed so well thought out.
00:26:02
And then hers was just, she's a girl.
00:26:05
Women's prison.
00:26:07
But it's like the women's prison.
00:26:09
It's like her majesty's women's prison.
00:26:12
Yeah, the queen was sent there.
00:26:15
I'm just kidding.
00:26:17
I'm lying.
00:26:18
I'm lying online.
00:26:20
Okay, I do that sometimes.
00:26:21
Let me live.
00:26:25
Huh.
00:26:27
The special effects for this were actually done for free by C.O.R.E.
00:26:34
abundantly clear?
00:26:36
First of all, it was the 90s.
00:26:40
But yes, an effects company called C .O .R .E.
00:26:43
did it just to show their support for the Toronto film industry.
00:26:46
So it's pretty neat.
00:26:48
Yeah, nice of them.
00:26:50
Yeah!
00:26:53
I mean, I would have appreciated a little bit more effort, but it was free.
00:26:56
It was the 90s.
00:26:58
was the 90s.
00:27:00
What are you gonna do?
00:27:06
Um...
00:27:07
I don't know I was gonna say.
00:27:08
Great.
00:27:13
Do you want a music fun fact?
00:27:18
You love score.
00:27:21
A piece of music was in the film.
00:27:25
Its original name is To Burble and Pine.
00:27:28
It was written by David Torn and it also appears in several video games, including
00:27:36
Resident Evil 4.
00:27:39
Yeah.
00:27:40
In the game, it's called Serenity, but...
00:27:42
It's the same song.
00:27:45
Yeah.
00:27:47
I mean, I wasn't going to say it, but I really hated the score in this movie.
00:27:51
I hate percussive vocals that are done poorly.
00:28:02
I cannot think of an example of percussive vocals that I love, in fact.
00:28:09
Well, okay, no, I can think of one, sorry.
00:28:12
Friday the 13th has very iconic percussive vocals.
00:28:17
Ki -ki -ki -ma -ma -ma.
00:28:20
It's done well and it's iconic.
00:28:22
This movie, however, felt like someone was sticking a microphone down their throat
00:28:27
and I hated it.
00:28:31
I'm very new to liking score.
00:28:37
We actually, behind the scenes, I made kd watch the movie Sunshine, which if you
00:28:45
haven't seen it, go watch it.
00:28:48
And then also as a side note, like two days later, she was like, hey, I just
00:28:54
watched his new movie Sunshine, you should watch it.
00:28:56
And I was like, I...
00:28:57
made you watch it, so I do know.
00:29:00
But anyways, we were quite literally chatting as we watched it.
00:29:07
Anyways, there was a song in that movie that she had said, oh, the movie's done by
00:29:15
Danny Boyle and Alex Garland, who did 28 Days Later.
00:29:17
And I told her that fun fact.
00:29:19
And then she was like, oh, did they do like, did the same guy do the score?
00:29:22
And I said, I don't know.
00:29:25
Or I said, yes, he did.
00:29:27
but it sounds like Kick Ass because he also did that.
00:29:30
And I was right, he used the exact same song in Kick Ass.
00:29:33
And I've never felt more proud to be right about score because it's never happened
00:29:40
before.
00:29:41
So I've never been able to feel proud about knowing score.
00:29:45
Anyways, I was better at score that day than kd and I'm gonna ride that high for
00:29:50
the rest of my life.
00:29:53
Thank you, I appreciate it.
00:29:56
Savor it.
00:29:57
I will, I'm never gonna stop talking about it.
00:30:02
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:04
like, wow, it sounds just like 28 Days Later.
00:30:06
Is it the same guy?
00:30:07
And you were like, yeah, it is, but it also sounds like Kick Ass.
00:30:10
So we tied.
00:30:12
But this song wasn't in 28 Days Later and it was in Kick Ass.
00:30:16
it's almost more impressive to be like, wow, this has the same vibe.
00:30:20
It must be the same writer.
00:30:23
To like be able to identify.
00:30:24
you it was the same guys who did 28 Days Later.
00:30:28
So you already had that context.
00:30:31
composer.
00:30:32
Yeah, but it's two pals working on multiple films together.
00:30:35
You gotta assume that they're people who enjoy bringing the same people on the
00:30:39
projects and the same actor.
00:30:43
Literally two.
00:30:46
So anyways, I won and that's when I started deciding that I care about score.
00:30:52
So I did not notice it at all in this movie, which to me says probably not
00:30:59
great.
00:31:02
I'm honestly surprised you didn't hear the like shockingly terrible.
00:31:09
Just sound like a fucking monkey.
00:31:11
Now that you actually do that, it does like ring a bell of the vibe.
00:31:16
Yeah.
00:31:18
But I don't know, I think I just don't notice it that much.
00:31:23
Like if you took the score from another movie and maybe the dialogue and a couple
00:31:30
of the actors and like a bigger set, sorry.
00:31:40
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:43
If you basically changed everything about this movie, it might've been good.
00:31:49
Not to say it was bad, but it wasn't good.
00:31:53
got Cary Elwes, put them in a bathroom.
00:31:58
Yeah, chain him to the wall!
00:32:02
and had a kick -ass twist at the end, it would have been a great movie.
00:32:07
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
00:32:12
We kid, we kid.
00:32:18
Yeah, we're not really kidding.
00:32:19
No.
00:32:21
I don't understand how this got, I mean we're not talking about ratings yet, but I
00:32:25
don't understand how this got such good ratings.
00:32:28
It's just not a good film.
00:32:32
I actually think its critic score is fair.
00:32:36
Like a 63 % is fine with me.
00:32:38
It also doesn't have that many critic reviews, so that's also, like it's not
00:32:44
certified fresh.
00:32:45
It is fresh, but it's not certified because enough people haven't rated it
00:32:49
yet.
00:32:52
But yeah, it having a better score than Saw, I take personally.
00:33:02
Yeah, that's offensive.
00:33:03
Saw's audience score as higher.
00:33:06
Okay, at least we got it right.
00:33:11
Someone did.
00:33:13
Yeah.
00:33:14
you mark your, just, just, mark your calendars.
00:33:19
The day that we have three years of content, we're coming for ya, and we're
00:33:22
putting.
00:33:22
What is it called?
00:33:23
Not the audience score.
00:33:25
Critic scores!
00:33:27
We're gonna shake it up.
00:33:28
There's two of us.
00:33:30
there's two of us.
00:33:32
we could easily make the score of this movie go down 10%.
00:33:36
a threat.
00:33:37
No.
00:33:43
But I mean, this was a box office bomb, like it didn't do well.
00:33:49
Well, here, well in Canada, and I don't think it did well here, but it was given a
00:33:53
limited release.
00:33:54
So I think that always kind of impacts it.
00:33:59
But it was a box office hit in France.
00:34:04
I don't know what the French are thinking.
00:34:06
France fucking loved it.
00:34:08
However, the Canadian producers had earlier sold the French film rights for a
00:34:14
fee, so they didn't get any of it.
00:34:19
Yeah, that box office went to the French distributors, not the production of this
00:34:25
movie.
00:34:28
The French are responsible for Martyrs.
00:34:32
So of course they're fucking crazy.
00:34:35
They would like this movie, weirdos.
00:34:37
I think our next foreign film is French as well.
00:34:42
Yeah, I know.
00:34:44
That was like our fifth film.
00:34:48
for you early.
00:34:50
We're going back, we're seeing what France is all about.
00:34:54
They're crazy.
00:34:57
Hahaha
00:35:00
Um, yeah, no, I'll go.
00:35:06
Another thing the director said that I thought was interesting was that the film
00:35:09
was inspired by Stanley Kubrick.
00:35:12
Okay.
00:35:13
which I don't understand, but also the Dutch artist MC Escher.
00:35:18
I don't know if you know who that is, but he's, yeah, the stairs.
00:35:22
Yeah, he made art inspired by math.
00:35:25
Math art.
00:35:29
Those are two completely opposite things in a lot of ways.
00:35:34
Yeah.
00:35:35
I also heard that Lifeboat from Hitchcock was an inspiration for this.
00:35:42
It's, yeah, it's a movie that's basically shot entirely on a lifeboat and like
00:35:49
nobody even stands the whole time.
00:35:52
So that was apparently inspiration, I'm assuming for the one area location type of
00:35:59
thing.
00:36:01
I do like those kind of movies.
00:36:02
We've talked about it once before.
00:36:03
I forget what movie we were talking about.
00:36:06
But I do love the idea of like one location movies.
00:36:13
talked about it a little bit in P2, we talked about it in Saw.
00:36:19
Yeah, there's been a few movies.
00:36:21
I kind of like that genre too.
00:36:23
I just think it's really clever.
00:36:25
Yeah.
00:36:27
And like, they're never the best movies you've ever seen.
00:36:31
But they're fun.
00:36:32
Yeah, well what was that movie with it was like Ryan Reynolds or something stuck.
00:36:36
I think we talked about it in that.
00:36:37
Yeah, that movie did really well and he's just in a coffin.
00:36:42
Oh, well spoiler alert, he's in a coffin the whole time.
00:36:45
I did know that.
00:36:51
Um, what did you think about getting just like no answers whatsoever about the cube?
00:37:00
I mean, I think I was expecting it because I did know enough.
00:37:05
I mean, I did know that there's other movies.
00:37:07
It's a franchise, it's not just a solo.
00:37:09
So I assumed we wouldn't get too much.
00:37:12
But supposedly the ending was going to be a little bit more fleshed out and you were
00:37:17
at least going to see what was outside of the cube.
00:37:20
But that was like the first thing to hit the cutting room floor when they had to
00:37:24
edit.
00:37:26
Yeah.
00:37:27
normalize answering questions.
00:37:30
Jesus.
00:37:32
I'm fine with an ambiguous ending.
00:37:36
But I would like an answer or two.
00:37:40
Just one.
00:37:42
Just a crumb of an answer would be great.
00:37:48
Who's to say?
00:37:49
It probably was.
00:37:50
try to kind of flesh it out a little bit in some of the sequels, because one of
00:37:54
them is even a prequel, I think.
00:37:57
But it's not made by the same people, I don't believe.
00:38:02
And they also like make some choices later on too that I don't like.
00:38:06
So yeah, not really a spoiler, but they like retroactively say that.
00:38:16
Kazan's character had a lobotomy and that's why he was like that, which I think
00:38:21
is super offensive and I didn't like that at all.
00:38:25
That makes it worse, like that alone.
00:38:28
So I don't like that and I don't like to like put that on these creators because
00:38:33
they didn't make that decision.
00:38:34
But yeah.
00:38:37
But yeah.
00:38:38
Well.
00:38:40
Which, by the way, Worth.
00:38:43
Yes.
00:38:44
I knew he had something to do with that fucking cube from the second I laid eyes
00:38:49
on that motherfucker.
00:38:50
I knew he had something to do with it.
00:38:51
Just the way the camera like looked at him and the way he like was like not talking.
00:38:57
I don't know.
00:38:58
It just, I almost wish that was a little bit more shrouded, you know?
00:39:05
That's fair, but then sometimes I'm like, I think in that case it would have been
00:39:09
fine, but sometimes I don't like it when they just throw something in without any
00:39:12
hints to it, because then it's like, where the fuck did this come from?
00:39:17
But in that case it would make sense, because he wouldn't be trying to tell
00:39:21
people that he's locked in there with that he had something to do with it, so.
00:39:24
Yeah.
00:39:28
Oh well.
00:39:30
Yeah, what are you gonna do?
00:39:32
I like the way he goes out though.
00:39:35
Yeah?
00:39:36
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
00:39:39
Because Quentin was saying, Quentin said to him at some point, like, just lay down
00:39:43
and die.
00:39:45
And that's what he does.
00:39:47
But more than that, when Leaven dies and is trying to like, or when Leaven is
00:39:52
trying to convince Worth, like, hey, you got to get out of here.
00:39:56
He's like, I don't have anything to live for.
00:39:57
I don't have anybody on the outside.
00:39:59
I've got nothing.
00:40:00
And then Leaven dies.
00:40:03
And so Worth just...
00:40:05
crawls up next to her, lays down and dies, which I guess it's hinting at Worth saying
00:40:13
I would rather die with a companion inside the cube than leave and have nobody.
00:40:20
Yeah.
00:40:21
Kinda sad.
00:40:23
Yeah.
00:40:23
But if he had just left, she would have been alive.
00:40:26
So come on.
00:40:29
Well, maybe I guess Quentin could have followed them out.
00:40:32
How did he even find them?
00:40:34
Same way probably that they found.
00:40:38
What was the other guy?
00:40:39
Kazan?
00:40:39
Kazan?
00:40:41
To by accident?
00:40:43
No, they were listening to him.
00:40:46
They heard him.
00:40:47
they lost him and then all of a sudden he was able to find his way back to them with
00:40:52
all the cubes moving all the time.
00:40:54
very annoying.
00:40:58
Also when he dropped, what's her name?
00:41:02
Holloway?
00:41:04
Why even catch it if you're gonna drop it?
00:41:07
Just pretend to fumble then.
00:41:10
Also, if I was Holloway and he pulled me that far up and I looked in his eyes and
00:41:13
saw his face, because you could tell she knew he was gonna drop her, I would have
00:41:18
been like, he's got me, I'm good.
00:41:22
And then they know.
00:41:24
Yeah, or said, don't drop me.
00:41:28
He's gonna drop me, like say something.
00:41:31
Yeah, or even when you're falling, I'd yell out, he dropped me!
00:41:35
Hahaha!
00:41:39
Uh...
00:41:41
yeah.
00:41:41
ratting on you if you kill me.
00:41:43
Seriously, I kind of wish they would redo this movie like just remake it, you know,
00:41:50
like recently.
00:41:51
2021.
00:41:54
Yeah, that's a remake.
00:41:56
well.
00:41:56
I want them to remake it better.
00:41:59
I'll let them know.
00:42:04
Call up Vincenzo let him know.
00:42:07
We want a redo.
00:42:11
Haha!
00:42:13
Yeah, I wouldn't mind it.
00:42:14
I do think like there is kind of a charm to older movies when it's...
00:42:22
like kind of bad special effects and stuff like that.
00:42:26
Like I think the car scene in Saw where they're just moving the car is kind of
00:42:29
funny now.
00:42:32
It doesn't look great, but I think it's kind of funny.
00:42:36
Sometimes it adds a little, a little something something.
00:42:41
Yeah, it gives it a little character.
00:42:43
Yeah.
00:42:45
I don't know, I just, I really hated the special effects.
00:42:50
Like they weren't even funny, it was just like, seriously?
00:42:54
That made it out?
00:42:58
Whatever.
00:42:59
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:03
What are you gonna do?
00:43:05
I'm gonna rate it.
00:43:06
Great!
00:43:09
How scary did you think it was?
00:43:13
Yeah.
00:43:14
It kind of reads more like a thriller to me.
00:43:19
You're gonna watch that entry scene, that opening scene, and then tell me that this
00:43:23
is a thriller?
00:43:24
Well, that's what makes it a horror, but I feel like, I don't know, those moments
00:43:28
didn't scare me, because there wasn't really tension.
00:43:31
It was just like, now he's splitting half, you know?
00:43:36
it's funny that you say that because one thing that I've noticed was that,
00:43:43
they either went zero or a million with the slicing and dicing thing, with the
00:43:53
acid to the face, straight on practical effects, like holy shit.
00:43:58
Or they turned the camera away for Quentin to slap the old lady.
00:44:07
And not once do we see the boot land on Worth.
00:44:11
Yeah.
00:44:12
Like just very, it was very weird.
00:44:15
Like why are you picking and choosing the things that you're picking and choosing to
00:44:18
show on camera?
00:44:19
You know what I mean?
00:44:20
Yeah, I didn't even really think about that.
00:44:25
But you're right.
00:44:27
It is like a weird angle when Quentin's like beating the shit out of Worth.
00:44:34
And then he stands up with like a cut lip.
00:44:36
I know, right?
00:44:38
And they don't mention it again at all.
00:44:41
And they just like move on.
00:44:42
Like he didn't just beat the shit out of him.
00:44:45
Well, I think like, what are you gonna...
00:44:46
What are you gonna do?
00:44:48
Fight him?
00:44:49
Exactly.
00:44:52
Also, I love the, like, his demise.
00:44:54
Like, he could have just let go of Kazan and been fine.
00:45:00
Could have just went back in the cube.
00:45:02
Yeah.
00:45:04
you're at the one that's going to go to the bridge it'll go back like that was
00:45:10
another thing only two people die to the traps
00:45:14
Yeah, it was kind of disappointing.
00:45:16
Yeah.
00:45:18
I can't decide if I like that or hate that.
00:45:21
Like, I think the traps are kind of what make it fun, but I also kind of like the
00:45:26
idea of like, it's not the traps, it's the people you got to be scared of, you know?
00:45:31
That's kind of like a fun...
00:45:34
I don't know.
00:45:36
It could have been both though, it could have been more traps.
00:45:39
Yeah, porque no los dos?
00:45:40
like why didn't they just add in five more people, kill them all in traps?
00:45:44
Yeah, seriously, is that so much to ask?
00:45:47
Is that too much to ask?
00:45:50
They were just casting their friends.
00:45:52
You don't got five more friends you can call?
00:45:55
Oh my God, right?
00:45:57
I mean, I wouldn't, but.
00:45:59
no, I have exactly four friends, but.
00:46:03
Same.
00:46:05
And it's most of the same people.
00:46:06
Hahaha
00:46:08
But no, it would have been super fun if they discovered dead people in other
00:46:15
cubes.
00:46:17
You know what I mean?
00:46:18
Like, oh, how did that guy die?
00:46:20
We may never know.
00:46:23
Yeah, you know.
00:46:24
Yeah, that would have been fun.
00:46:28
Anyway.
00:46:29
How sexy did you think it was?
00:46:31
Zero.
00:46:34
A one, because I have to give it a one.
00:46:37
Not sexy at all.
00:46:38
There's nothing sexy about it.
00:46:39
It was...
00:46:41
It wasn't even a good looking cube.
00:46:46
There are some.
00:46:48
What's the hottest cube you've ever seen?
00:46:50
The Tesseract from Transformers.
00:46:55
Duh.
00:46:57
Is that even a question?
00:47:02
I mean, I honestly can only think of two cubes.
00:47:09
So yeah, sure.
00:47:12
I was gonna say the Lament Configuration, but that's just me.
00:47:17
is the other one you can think of the Rubik's?
00:47:20
Oh my God, no, yeah, I guess.
00:47:23
Yeah, I don't think the Rubik's is that sexy though.
00:47:25
No, it's very middle.
00:47:30
Yeah.
00:47:31
And then you see the tesseract.
00:47:32
It's like...
00:47:34
You know what?
00:47:34
Let me look this thing up.
00:47:36
Transformer.
00:47:42
Tesseract.
00:47:44
Okay, let's see this sexy cube.
00:47:47
Oh, it glows.
00:47:52
She does.
00:47:55
Hmm, looks a little too fake for me in some of these scenes.
00:47:59
Alright, yeah, I see your point.
00:48:02
Yeah.
00:48:04
I also gave it a 1.
00:48:07
Math's not sexy.
00:48:08
Ever.
00:48:09
it can be.
00:48:10
Don't...
00:48:11
it wasn't in this movie because it was all wrong.
00:48:17
to each their own.
00:48:22
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:48:26
I gave it a 1 .5.
00:48:31
Because the acid scene was kind of fun.
00:48:33
Oh, okay.
00:48:35
What about you?
00:48:38
Okay.
00:48:38
For what?
00:48:39
the acid scene and for the cube scene.
00:48:41
The cubing of the person scene.
00:48:43
The scene in which the person gets cubed.
00:48:45
yeah.
00:48:46
This, yes, exactly.
00:48:48
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:49
I don't know, that one didn't bother me as much.
00:48:52
It didn't bother me at all.
00:48:53
I loved it.
00:48:54
I couldn't wait for him to start falling apart.
00:48:58
But it is a little fucked.
00:49:00
I mean, yeah.
00:49:02
It would be a really good way to go.
00:49:05
Very quick.
00:49:07
And it cuts so thin, you wouldn't even feel it.
00:49:11
You know what mean?
00:49:12
Yeah, it happens too quickly.
00:49:14
Yeah, like a paper cut doesn't hurt until like a few minutes later.
00:49:18
You know what mean?
00:49:19
It's like, oh yeah, I got a paper cut.
00:49:20
And they're like, oh fuck, I got a paper cut.
00:49:22
Just like that, like by the time you like register, like, oh that hurt, you're dead.
00:49:25
dead.
00:49:28
I pray that's the way I go out.
00:49:30
Soon.
00:49:32
Just kidding.
00:49:35
How would you ever be in a situation where that would happen to you?
00:49:39
We'll never know because they didn't answer the question in the movie.
00:49:43
They didn't answer the question.
00:49:47
Yeah.
00:49:48
All right, overall, what'd think?
00:49:51
Okay, so I didn't hate it, but it also was really not good.
00:49:58
The acting was terrible.
00:50:00
The dialogue was terrible.
00:50:02
The special effects was terrible.
00:50:06
Honestly, I don't know what redeeming qualities it has, but I couldn't stop
00:50:11
watching it.
00:50:12
I think it was because I was really hoping for another person to get diced.
00:50:16
Mm.
00:50:18
You know what he reminded me of?
00:50:20
When he starts falling apart in little cubes, he reminds me of the mincing in
00:50:25
Princess and the Frog, where he just minces a whole bunch of shit.
00:50:29
And look, I've been practicing my mincing because he falls apart in all these
00:50:32
little...
00:50:33
Anyway.
00:50:35
I think that's what I was looking forward to the entire time.
00:50:38
So I was like on the edge of my seat.
00:50:40
I was like, it was kind of fun, you know, but it was not good.
00:50:45
And we struggle with this occasionally where it's like, okay, do we rate it with
00:50:48
our heart or do we rate it with our little thinking caps on?
00:50:52
Anyway, all that to say, I really wanted to give it a 2 .5, but it's not quite
00:50:56
there, so it's a two.
00:50:58
Wow, one of your lower scores.
00:51:01
It really is.
00:51:01
Yeah.
00:51:02
And I would watch it again because it was kind of like silly, but it sucked.
00:51:11
You know?
00:51:14
Yeah.
00:51:16
What did you give it?
00:51:17
I gave it a three.
00:51:20
Yeah.
00:51:22
I kind of like the premise.
00:51:24
There's a lot of things I like about it.
00:51:26
Like it's fun.
00:51:27
It's not like bad to watch.
00:51:29
Like it's a fun time to watch.
00:51:31
The acting is pretty bad, but I almost think it's kind of just like campy, but
00:51:35
not on purpose.
00:51:36
Like they didn't mean it to me, but it's kind of just so over the top that it's
00:51:39
funny.
00:51:42
I do think though there was a review of it that said it just...
00:51:45
goes nowhere fast and I do agree with that.
00:51:48
Like it's just kind of like, you're waiting for something to happen that never
00:51:53
really does.
00:51:54
And I don't mind a little ambiguity in movies, that's fine for me, but again, I
00:51:59
would have maybe just one, just one question answered would have been nice.
00:52:05
But I don't know, I think it's kind of fun.
00:52:08
And I like the, I don't know, it was low budget, it was a creative concept for a
00:52:13
one room type of movie and.
00:52:15
I always kind of think they're enjoyable watches.
00:52:19
Yeah, it has a cult following.
00:52:25
I'm not the leader of the cult, but I'll like say hi as they wave by.
00:52:31
Or I'll wave hi as they walk by.
00:52:36
would you survive?
00:52:39
I don't have any special skills.
00:52:42
Okay, great.
00:52:44
So, I mean, I'm not being helpful, that's for sure.
00:52:47
Okay.
00:52:49
Um, I don't know that I can climb through doors.
00:52:56
So I think I think like ultimately I'm dying of starvation because I'm not
00:53:00
getting anywhere.
00:53:01
I'm not being productive I'm not making friends.
00:53:05
That's for fucking sure so nobody's gonna care about me to like bring me along So I
00:53:10
think I just die of starvation, which is the worst way to go Or I try to find a
00:53:15
really good trap.
00:53:16
It'll be like
00:53:17
Yeah, you'd find the dicing room and just be like, here I go.
00:53:21
Yay.
00:53:26
Yeah, that's fair.
00:53:28
like cubed ham on a salad.
00:53:30
Yeah.
00:53:30
What about you?
00:53:33
Probably not, huh?
00:53:35
I'm decent at math, but I'm not that good.
00:53:38
And, uh...
00:53:39
I mean, I don't know, nobody really lives, right?
00:53:43
I think it can be assumed that Leaven and Worth die, so Kazan's kind of the only guy
00:53:48
who makes it out.
00:53:51
I do think if I made it that far, I'd be fine because I'm not sticking around to
00:53:55
convince Worth to go.
00:53:56
I'm like, buddy, you can come with or you don't, but this thing's about to move and
00:54:00
this is our chance.
00:54:01
So you can wait for it to come back around or not, but I'm out of here.
00:54:04
Yeah.
00:54:07
But I think ultimately my chances of making it that far are pretty slim.
00:54:11
So I'm gonna say it's a no.
00:54:14
Rare that we both die.
00:54:16
I know.
00:54:18
Refreshing, really.
00:54:19
Yeah, gotta be realistic, you know?
00:54:24
I can't bamboozle my way out of this one.
00:54:27
Hahaha.
00:54:29
See you in hell.
00:54:32
Speaking of hell, do you want to predict next week's movie?
00:54:37
I'm just kidding.
00:54:41
Okay, great.
00:54:44
Well, in honor of The First Omen coming out, I'm going to make you watch the
00:54:47
original Omen.
00:54:49
Okay.
00:54:51
Give it to me.
00:54:51
What's The Omen about?
00:54:53
The Omen is about...
00:54:57
I'm thinking.
00:54:58
great.
00:55:01
It's about, it's set in an Asian country.
00:55:06
Probably Japan.
00:55:08
Because that's the one I'm most familiar with.
00:55:14
And it's about a family who the dad needs to make money.
00:55:24
And so he becomes a hitman.
00:55:27
Yeah.
00:55:27
and he goes and he kills somebody who then begins to haunt the house.
00:55:35
It's supernatural, obviously.
00:55:38
Yep, the house gets haunted and...
00:55:41
by the person that the dad kills and the dad is just overcome with grief.
00:55:47
Yeah.
00:55:49
And the guy that he kills, the ghost of the guy that he kills, gives him like a
00:55:57
prophecy.
00:55:58
The omen.
00:56:00
The omen.
00:56:01
Yeah, and is like, look, you can either.
00:56:05
Stay here and I'll haunt you forever.
00:56:07
Or you can go and kill a bunch more people.
00:56:12
That's how you get rid of me.
00:56:14
Oh my god.
00:56:15
It's like the ring but worse.
00:56:19
guilt.
00:56:22
that he just, he can't do it.
00:56:26
So he offs himself and the family lives happily ever after.
00:56:32
Great.
00:56:39
No.
00:56:40
Damn it.
00:56:42
Anything?
00:56:42
Did I get anything?
00:56:44
Mmm...
00:56:45
No.
00:56:47
Not at all!
00:56:48
Not really.
00:56:50
Damn, I should really start looking these up.
00:56:53
No!
00:56:54
The whole point is that you don't know what they're about.
00:56:57
It wouldn't be fun if you just guessed the plot of the movie every time.
00:57:02
I guess it is supernatural, but not really like ghosts.
00:57:11
Yeah.
00:57:13
Where is it set?
00:57:13
Where does it take place?
00:57:16
I think the UK?
00:57:19
Yeah.
00:57:21
way off.
00:57:23
Let me see the poster.
00:57:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah, look it up.
00:57:26
76?
00:57:28
Jesus Christ.
00:57:30
It's a classic.
00:57:33
Oh, I like the.
00:57:38
the Mary Lloyd.
00:57:40
I'm trying not to, I mean, I'm not spoiling anything, but there's a, there's
00:57:46
a Mary Lloyd in it.
00:57:49
You know what a Mary Lloyd is?
00:57:52
Mary Lloyd is a Welsh Christmas, like tradition, I guess, or I don't know.
00:57:59
It's basically you put a horse's skull on a stick and you go around and scare people
00:58:05
with it.
00:58:06
during Christmas time.
00:58:09
That's probably not a really good.
00:58:10
explanation of it.
00:58:11
Yeah.
00:58:14
Sounds great.
00:58:15
Well, let me give a better.
00:58:17
Let me give a better.
00:58:18
No, I love that explanation actually.
00:58:24
It's a folk, no, I'm telling you, it's a folk custom in South Wales.
00:58:29
The tradition entails the use of a hobby horse, which is made from a horse's skull
00:58:35
mounted on a pole and carried by an individual hidden underneath a sheet.
00:58:39
Which is exactly what the devil in this movie looks like.
00:58:42
Not that I'm reading on the movie or anything.
00:58:48
Oh, the men would carry the Mary Lloyd to local houses where they would request
00:58:53
entry through song.
00:58:56
The householders deny them entry again through song and the two sides continue
00:59:01
their call and response.
00:59:03
The householders eventually relent and the team would be permitted entry and be given
00:59:08
food and drink.
00:59:11
Great.
00:59:11
So it's a musical house, it's a musical horse that gets you into a house for food
00:59:17
and drink for free.
00:59:18
Nice.
00:59:18
Cool.
00:59:20
I think it's cool.
00:59:20
That's where my family's from is South Wales, so.
00:59:22
You learn something new every day.
00:59:26
Well great, I'm excited for you to watch this Mary Lloyd classic.
00:59:30
Me too.
00:59:35
All right.
00:59:37
We'll see you next week.
00:59:38
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00:59:39
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00:59:47
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