Based on the Jeff VanderMeer novel, Alex Garland (Ex Machina, 28 Days Later) presents Annihilation, a sci-fi horror starring Natalie Portman, Oscar Isaac, and Jennifer Jason Leigh. This movie was recommended by our very own kd! We also chat through this week’s horror news including a Coen brothers horror project and a Jimmy Buffett-inspired horror movie called Murdaritaville.
👉 Coen brothers untitled horror project: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/coen-brothers-horror-film-2024-b2486964.html
👉 Murdaritaville Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yepomGZ7zlw
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Hello?
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Welcome back to Killer Cuties.
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Welcome back.
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Happy Tuesday.
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It is...well, yeah, I guess when we're releasing this it is Tuesday.
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We record on Tuesdays a lot.
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Not today, though.
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Ha ha ha!
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Um...
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I have a tiny bit of horror news.
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Okay, so do I, you go first.
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Oh, okay.
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I was going to anyway.
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So the Coen brothers, who directed The Big Lebowski, Fargo, No Country for Old Men,
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lots of other stuff.
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They're working on a horror movie.
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They've described it as pure horror and very bloody.
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ooo
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Yeah, so that was just announced, not really a whole lot of information there,
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but definitely something to keep our eye on.
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I'll be honest, this is not going to give me any credit in the movie world, but I
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don't know if I've ever seen a Coen brothers movie.
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I was just gonna say, not sure I've seen any of those movies.
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I knew them.
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no, I have, and it was, Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?
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But I watched it when I was probably seven years old, way too young to watch it, and
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I don't think old enough to really understand or appreciate it, so.
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Yeah, I fucking love Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?
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So, I didn't realize it was them.
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It is.
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Look at you, Big Coen Brothers fan.
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Oh yeah, huge.
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Huge.
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Yeah, I can't believe I didn't know this news.
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Yeah.
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Didn't ping on Twitter for you, huh?
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You don't have your Coen Brothers notifications on?
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no.
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Gosh.
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Alright, what's your news?
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okay.
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Coming March 1st of this year is a horror movie "parrot-y" with a T.
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"Parrot-y" about a group of friends on their way to a concert only to find
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themselves under attack by a mysterious parrot man.
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The movie is called Murderitaville.
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Yes.
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I watched the trailer.
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There's a trailer?
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There is, there's a full blown trailer.
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If you want to call it that, actually.
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And the Parrot Man.
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Looks like a man out of a Jimmy Buffett tailgate.
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Oh, it's not like a man parrot.
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It's, oh, okay.
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I'm trying to understand.
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it's very low budget.
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Okay, I honestly would not expect it to have a big budget.
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We'll be watching.
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I will tune in.
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100%.
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We'll be watching it.
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go to a Margaritaville right after or before.
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Maybe I should go before and have a Margarita flight and then watch the movie.
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And then after also both.
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Although I've had several waitresses at Margaritaville tell me that the flight is
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not worth it.
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And that you should just get an actual sized margarita because it's a better
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price for what you're getting.
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That's fair, but I prefer to taste multiple.
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that, I mean...
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If you don't know what flavor, if you don't want to commit, go for the flight.
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Right, and then get a full one of the one you like best.
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get multiple full ones.
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Yes.
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But anyway, it's distributed by a distributor called Haddonfield Horror.
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Cute.
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Cute name.
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I bet you think so.
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I do.
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And that's all the information we've got.
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And the trailer is just...
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you should watch it.
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I definitely will.
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Please send it to me and we'll have to link it as well.
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Um, great.
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Your news was more exciting.
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Hahaha.
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Thank you.
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I don't know if it was a horror musical by the Coen brothers, yours would be more
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exciting.
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Okay, you like the...
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You do love musicals, don't you?
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Well, I like, yeah.
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Yep.
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I don't know where I was going with that.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yay.
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All right, are you ready to talk about the movie of today, this week?
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Yeah.
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All right, we're talking about Annihilation.
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This was suggested to us by one of the creators of Killer Cutie's podcast, kd.
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And...
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So if it's been a while since you've seen it or you haven't seen it and you're
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watching or listening anyway, a brief description of the film from Google is,
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Lena, a biologist and former soldier, joins a mission to uncover what happened
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to her husband inside Area X, a sinister and mysterious phenomenon that is
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expanding across the American coastline.
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Once inside, the expedition discovers a world of mutated landscapes and creatures
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as dangerous as it is beautiful that threatens both their lives and their
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sanity.
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Da da da.
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It's written and directed by Alex Garland, which we just mentioned because of the
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news of 28 Years Later so that's exciting.
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Based on the novel by Jeff VanderMeer of the same name, which is part of a trilogy,
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which I think I knew, but I still kinda wanna read it,
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Just one note about it being based on the movie.
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He's never going to make any more.
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He's not going to make the two and three movie wise and he didn't even reread the
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book before he made this movie.
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He said it's based on a dream of the book.
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So keep that in mind.
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actually kind of led to a little bit of controversy.
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Because when the movie came out, Natalie Portman and Jennifer Jason Leigh were cast
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as characters who in the book trilogy are described as Asian and then half Native
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American.
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But he never read the second and third book.
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And the casting was done before, I think before the second book was even out, which
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is where their races and ethnicities were actually explained.
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He was explaining that choice that he did not know because it wasn't said in the
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first book.
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Yeah.
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It well.
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Yeah, though, though they weren't depicted appropriately.
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I feel like they did a good job depicting.
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Yeah, I mean Natalie Portman and Jennifer Jason Leigh are...
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They're great.
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The whole cast, I mean, Tessa Thompson, Oscar Isaac.
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Yep.
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Gina Rodriguez.
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Yeah.
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And Tuva Nuvotny, I think, is the other member of the team.
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Yeah.
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Lots of Disney happening here, speaking of the cast.
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Is there?
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Oh, Star Wars.
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I forget that Disney owns that.
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and Marvel.
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Ha ha!
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I know.
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Natalie Portman was in the original trilogy.
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Sorry, not the original trilogy, the second trilogy.
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Star Wars.
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Yes, she played Padme.
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Nailed it.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, she was she was in the one, two and three.
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I don't know if she was in all three of them, but she was in that trilogy.
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fourth, fifth, and sixth movies, right?
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I know so much about Star Wars, it's crazy.
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Ready, ready?
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Poe Dameron.
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Nailed it.
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Oscar Isaac plays Poe Dameron in the newer trilogy, newest trilogy.
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And he was filming Annihilation and one of the newer Star Wars movies at the same
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time.
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And he would sometimes shoot scenes for both in the same day.
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Oh, it was the same lot?
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Oh, that actually makes it a lot easier.
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Just walk across the way.
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Nice.
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Which is just wild and iconic that anybody has two movies that they're acting in at
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the same exact time.
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Yeah.
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that doesn't seem.
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but it feels like a lot.
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Yeah.
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Especially those are two completely different characters.
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Possessed ex-military and space pilot.
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I guess they're both military.
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There you go.
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But no, they're completely different characters.
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To be able to just flip that switch, whoo!
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Yeah, it would not be easy.
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Nope.
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But yeah, and then everybody and their mother in this movie has been in a Thor
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movie.
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Natalie Portman is Thor.
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Okay.
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I'm gonna take your word for it, because I don't know anything.
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Oscar Isaac is in one of the newer Disney plus shows, Tessa Thompson's in Thor.
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The, I forget his name, the actor and the character, the doctor that's like
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interrogating Lena at the beginning or throughout the movie.
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He's in Doctor Strange, I think.
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Look at that!
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That's kinda fun, I guess.
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And the whole thing with Marvel is that, oh, there's so many universes.
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There's multiple universes.
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So Annihilation could have been one of their universes.
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No.
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You never know.
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I do.
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I don't know.
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No, that's always...
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I was gonna say fun, but I'm sorry.
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I just can't, I'm so glad that like the superhero era is ending.
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I hope so.
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Except for the Spider-Verse animated.
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That can go on forever.
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I'll watch those movies forever and ever.
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Sony Spider-Man slaps.
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Agreed.
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The novel, Annihilation, won the 2014 Shirley Jackson Award, which I thought was
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a fun little connection to last week's episode.
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Yeah.
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She does.
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She's that bitch.
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Respectfully.
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Oh, of course.
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I thought that was fun.
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I gotta put it on my...
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it's an award for books.
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But like, why?
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I don't know, why do books win awards?
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Cause they're good?
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Well, yeah, or they're funny or they're scary.
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OK.
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They're literary awards named Dr.
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Shirley Jackson in recognition of her legacy in writing.
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These awards for outstanding achievement in literature of psychological suspense,
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horror, and dark fantasy.
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There you go.
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Okay, so it's specifically a genre of book that can win.
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It does.
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has written those things.
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Exactly.
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And it makes me want to read it.
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I know, I wouldn't mind reading the trilogy.
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Especially...
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I think if I've seen the movie first, I don't mind if the book is really different
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from it because then it's I can treat them as separate.
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When I've read the book then it's more disappointing when you watch the movie and
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it's completely different, but
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Yeah.
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I think it still would have been interesting though, just knowing that his
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take on it was a dream of the book.
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or a memory of the book, faint memory of the book.
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I think that would have been interesting either way.
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But you know, and that's the reason I've kind of held off on reading the book
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because spoiler alert, I really fucking love this movie and I don't wanna be
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disappointed because the book is so different, you know?
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Yeah.
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But wouldn't that be wild to be disappointed by the book and not the
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movie?
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Ha ha!
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crazy.
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I don't know if I've ever had that.
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I think I've watched movies first and then read the book and they've been very
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different.
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But I've never been disappointed with the book.
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I've just had to be like, okay, this is a separate thing.
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I remember when Silver Linings Playbook came out and I watched the movie and I
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loved the movie.
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And then I read the book and I was so confused.
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It felt like someone wrote it based off of a Google description of the book.
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The dancing is not a big part at all.
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Like it's not, it's a.
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It's a note.
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So I was very surprised, but the book is very good.
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It was just very different.
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Yeah.
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But.
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Yeah, I would read it.
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Same,
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Also, I remember when you first mentioned this movie.
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and you asked me if it was on our list.
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And I remember.
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I said something like, it's not a horror movie, it's an action sci-fi.
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And re-watching it, what a crazy thing for me to have said.
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Thank you.
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especially me because I'm typically the one who's really lenient about what can be
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considered horror.
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I don't know why in my mind when I remembered this movie it just was not a
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horror to me at all.
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And rewatching it...
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I have changed my mind to be clear.
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It's definitely in the horror genre.
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Yeah, I think for me it's because the horror aspects of it are not what made
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this movie stand out.
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A couple of them did for me, but the big things were not horror.
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They were sci-fi.
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To me, for me personally.
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So I'm not too surprised.
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Yeah, I don't know, I just...
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I guess when I thought back on it, because it's been a while since I'd seen it, I
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think I saw it around the time it came out and then haven't watched it since.
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And I didn't remember the part with them showing the inside of him and everything
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moving.
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I didn't like that.
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So maybe I just blocked that out because I wasn't a fan of it.
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But I think I just remembered.
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it being more...
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Like when her backpack gets taken and she just falls into the house, gets ripped
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into the house by the crocodile.
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I remembered it being more like that, where it was mostly unseen monsters doing
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things and nobody got mauled.
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And that's not true.
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People get mauled.
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Yeah, so I don't know why.
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didn't remember that, but I apologize for telling you that it wasn't horror, because
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it...
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it is!
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Clearly, clearly is.
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Um...
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I don't know if I told you this or made this clear, but this...
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After we started watching horror movies, this is the first horror movie that I kind
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of went off and watched on my own.
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I think I was looking for something that was sci-fi horror specifically, because I
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had really liked Alien, And I wanted to fill the void of not having Alien anymore,
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to watch for the first time.
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So found this.
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I didn't read any reviews or anything.
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I just saw that Natalie Portman and Oscar Isaac were in it and Natalie Portman is
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not in horror movies outside of Black Swan and this, which are the only two horror
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movies she's ever agreed to do.
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Hmm?
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Not true.
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Oh, well, she agreed to another, but what was it?
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Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.
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But scheduling conflicts.
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scheduling conflicts.
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That's right.
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So maybe she'll do more.
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I guess she didn't want to.
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She wanted to kind of flex in the horror genre.
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She hadn't done it before.
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Is that remembering that correctly?
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Why is she?
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I think it was mainly because of the people attached.
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Because the first one was Black Swan, she kind of broke that.
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She had said early in her career that she wasn't going to do horror, and then Black
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Swan happened and she just wanted to work with the people involved, and that's why
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she said yes.
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I couldn't really find anything about why she said yes to this one or Pride and
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Prejudice and Zombies, but...
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Could just be she liked the scripts or wanted to work with the people.
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I think you're right, I remember reading that.
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She only has ever said yes to horror movies because she was excited to work
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with the people who were attached to the movies.
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So that makes sense.
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But anyway, and then I watched it, and I've watched it a gazillion times since.
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never stop watching it.
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I made my husband watch it.
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Yeah, what did he think?
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Oh, great, okay.
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It's funny to me that you watched Alien.
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You said, I like that movie, I need to find more of that.
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And instead of going to the 10 movie franchise that is Alien, you said, I'm
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gonna divert and go somewhere else real quick.
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Yeah, well you could also argue, you know, oh, why didn't you just watch Alien again
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if you're gonna sit there and watch Annihilation 50 times.
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That is also an argument that I have no response to.
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Great!
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I think people should explain themselves less actually, so that's...
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..
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I'm checking that box.
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Moving on.
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but no, I just, I don't.
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Maybe we should talk about this later, but there's one scene in this movie that made
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me the most uncomfortable I have ever been.
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To the point where it terrified me.
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I was fucking terrified.
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I was sitting in this room lights were on middle of the day birds chirping outside
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one scene in this movie.
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Just completely.
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Freaked me the fuck out.
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And I think that that's what has attached to me this movie so much that it had that
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effect on me.
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Can you guess?
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No.
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I did.
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I think you texted me after you watched it.
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And when I said, it's not horror, you were like, the bear?
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You're right.
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mauling people, which is funny that that's what I said because really the horror
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scene is him fucking carving somebody's intestines out.
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That's the scene.
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Yeah, the inside scene I did in it.
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Was it that?
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Oh.
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I don't know, what was it?
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the alien mimicking thing at the end.
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Oh...
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The whole lighthouse thing?
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Yeah, that maybe not so much the underground scene.
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But once she comes out and her drop of blood goes into the thing and it takes her
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form her loose form.
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That is what made me understand the concept of uncanny valley.
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We talked about this during M3GAN do you remember Uncanny Valley?
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I do.
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I guess I did not get that from that.
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Cause she never looked inhuman, or like human but not human, you know what I mean?
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I feel like it either looked not human or like her.
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Yeah.
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I mean...
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So, yes.
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But I think just the fact that it was mirroring her movements, it had her
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general shape, there was the scene of the transition between green alien rock thing
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to looking exactly like Natalie Portman.
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That freaked me out.
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But I think what...
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what really did it and I say this all the time.
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I'm gonna look up their names because it's two...
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It's two...
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composers that did this, the score, the score makes the movie.
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Jeff Barrow and Ben Salisbury are the team that scored this movie.
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They're much more atmospheric composers than they are lyrical composers like a
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Hans Zimmer or John Williams or whatever.
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Michael Giacchino is kind of this way too where the introduction to or the theme
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song to Lost which you've never heard.
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is or have you.
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watched a couple episodes of Lost when it first came out.
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So I have, but I don't remember it at all.
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Okay, well, the theme sound for Lost is a perfect example of what I mean by
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atmospheric.
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the theme sound, I keep, it's not a song, of Lost that probably 15 seconds, it's
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just very unsettling.
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And Jeff Barrow and Ben Salisbury do a really fucking good job of using
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instruments to create tension and evoke emotion in a non-lyrical way.
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And that scene in particular is where that really shown.
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shined, shone, shined.
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It was just fucking creepy.
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I was so fucking creeped out.
00:24:48
I'm still to this day fucking creeped out by that scene because of the soundtrack
00:24:53
and just the uncanny valley of it all, oh God.
00:24:57
Alright, reminder to find more body double movies for kd.
00:25:03
Oh, that's why you thought Us was so scary too.
00:25:07
You don't like doubles.
00:25:11
Why do you...
00:25:11
Hmm, we're gonna explore this one day.
00:25:14
Why you think doubles are so scary?
00:25:17
but I don't know that it's the double because to your point, us was us.
00:25:23
Was it us?
00:25:25
I always get his movie titles confused.
00:25:28
Sorry, Jordan.
00:25:29
Us is not as scary as this.
00:25:31
This is fucking scarier to me because of this one scene.
00:25:34
And M3GAN, so that's the body double aspect.
00:25:39
Not as scary.
00:25:40
M3GAN, the uncanny valley, not as scary.
00:25:43
Nowhere near.
00:25:46
was the mix and the sound.
00:25:50
I really think it's the score.
00:25:52
Every show that I've really liked has been score or really big brain production
00:25:59
value.
00:26:00
I'm easy to please, in the grand scheme of things.
00:26:05
Can I tell you something?
00:26:07
Yes.
00:26:09
Are you gonna get mad at me?
00:26:11
Did you laugh at that scene?
00:26:15
Is that really-
00:26:16
My least favorite part of this movie is the lighthouse sequence.
00:26:19
Oh my god, I mean I didn't say it was my favorite part but...
00:26:24
That morph suit looking ass guy walking around, I, mm-mm, it was not for me.
00:26:33
I just felt like there were so many different ways that they could have shown
00:26:36
that it was doubling than doing that weird CGI thing.
00:26:40
I hated that.
00:26:41
Ugh.
00:26:43
Sorry.
00:26:44
It was so un- when it's pressed against your face, that didn't bother you?
00:26:51
Not even a little bit.
00:26:53
No.
00:26:53
Oh god.
00:26:56
I wanted them to kiss.
00:27:02
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
00:27:05
Oh, okay.
00:27:08
Well.
00:27:08
Anyway...
00:27:11
well, more about the production of the movie.
00:27:15
One of the ...
00:27:15
it's made by Paramount and one of the like financiers, financers, financiers.
00:27:23
How do you say that word?
00:27:24
fight, finance, I don't fucking know.
00:27:29
It's spelled financier, financiay.
00:27:34
That's how it's spelled.
00:27:38
But the money guy.
00:27:40
Yeah the money guy his name is David Ellison thought it was too intellectual
00:27:45
and too complicated so he wanted to make changes he wanted the ending to change I'm
00:27:51
assuming to not be as ambiguous and then he wanted Lena to be more sympathetic and
00:27:55
likable but then one of the producers Scott Rudin
00:28:01
said, no, I agree with Alex Gargland, and Scott Rudin had last say.
00:28:06
So they kept it as is.
00:28:09
However, because of this clash between Rudin and Ellison, I think they were
00:28:17
clashing on other things as well.
00:28:19
And then also there were some changes in leadership at Paramount.
00:28:22
It ended up that they decided to not do theater releases internationally and let
00:28:30
Netflix do it.
00:28:33
which basically ended up kind of hurting it at the box office.
00:28:38
It didn't really do that well.
00:28:40
I think it, I don't even think it made back what they spent.
00:28:45
it did well critically, but not so well financially.
00:28:51
So I think even if they wanted to do the other books, I don't know if it would have
00:28:56
been greenlit.
00:28:58
Ugh.
00:28:59
Well...
00:29:02
Damn.
00:29:03
Don't piss off your money guy, I guess.
00:29:05
But honestly, please do.
00:29:09
I'm, I don't know, we've talked about it so many times about these movies that just
00:29:14
kinda handhold you and think the audience is stupid so they fall back onto the same
00:29:19
old tropes that we've seen a million times, and I'm sick of it.
00:29:22
Do weird shit, do complicated shit.
00:29:24
So what if the audience doesn't get it?
00:29:26
Mm-hmm.
00:29:29
This was.
00:29:29
people still talk about Inception.
00:29:33
Because it was too complicated.
00:29:35
Even though I felt like it was pretty clear.
00:29:37
But anyways, that's just me.
00:29:39
because it's a Hans Zimmer movie.
00:29:42
Oh, haven't you not seen it?
00:29:46
Okay, I was like, one of my friends said they haven't seen Inception.
00:29:50
That's crazy, everybody saw that movie when it came out.
00:29:53
I did not see it when it came out.
00:29:54
I saw it pretty recently.
00:29:56
Oh, I saw it in theaters.
00:29:58
God, we were in high school.
00:30:01
Am I not allowed to see movies in high school?
00:30:03
Well, it's kind of a rough movie for a high schooler.
00:30:07
Have you seen high schoolers recently?
00:30:08
Ha ha ha.
00:30:12
That's fair.
00:30:14
Yeah, I'd seen a lot by that point.
00:30:18
Fair.
00:30:20
Why did we bring up?
00:30:23
Oh, Big Brain.
00:30:24
Yeah, it is a Big Brain movie.
00:30:26
Yeah, definitely.
00:30:27
It's not, it's not like, Beau is Afraid Big Brain, where you need to have the
00:30:32
director's brain to understand it.
00:30:36
Sorry.
00:30:36
I feel like Beau Is Afraid is just very artistic.
00:30:43
In its core, I don't think it's super complicated, because it's really just
00:30:51
about a guy who's very anxious, and it's his point of view in the world.
00:30:55
But yeah, I could see a lot of people watching that and being like, what the
00:31:03
actual fuck is going on?
00:31:05
Yeah.
00:31:07
because there were some choices that were made.
00:31:09
(Aster).
00:31:11
Oh.
00:31:17
I don't know.
00:31:17
I like ambiguous endings too, so I'm glad that they kept that and didn't.
00:31:22
Apparently the original script was even more ambiguous too about which Lena
00:31:28
escapes.
00:31:29
And I think in the original script too, they said they were gonna show more
00:31:33
meteors crashing around earth.
00:31:37
Oh, like as if, okay, yeah, they solved this problem, but here's all these other
00:31:40
problems.
00:31:42
Yeah, but I didn't even read the ending as they solved the problem.
00:31:48
Well, yeah, that's fair, because there they both are.
00:31:55
Yeah.
00:31:56
What is your take on the ending?
00:32:00
Um...
00:32:03
I think Lena is real Lena, but I mean her DNA has been refracted, so she's actively
00:32:11
deteriorating.
00:32:14
And then obviously Kane is not the real Kane.
00:32:24
That's how I understood it.
00:32:27
What about you?
00:32:29
Yeah, same.
00:32:30
I feel like it's her.
00:32:32
I didn't really read it as she was deteriorating.
00:32:34
I read it more as she's kind of almost assimilated like Tessa Thompson's
00:32:40
character did.
00:32:43
And that this is now the Shimmer's way of adapting and how it's gonna spread is
00:32:49
through them.
00:32:50
I definitely thought it was her just changed.
00:32:54
And I think it's pretty obvious Kane's not Kane.
00:32:57
He says, I don't think so, which is a weird thing to say.
00:33:03
Yeah, he very well could have gotten out in similar circumstances to Lena and it
00:33:10
just wasn't conveyed that way on little camcorder.
00:33:14
But I still think the DNA refraction is.
00:33:18
You're not you anymore.
00:33:19
as if it's not your DNA, you're not you.
00:33:21
So you know.
00:33:24
Yeah.
00:33:26
Yeah.
00:33:31
It's not quite as ambiguous as Inception.
00:33:35
I don't think.
00:33:37
I don't know because I get why Inception was very, is he dreaming, is he not?
00:33:44
But I'm begging people to just rewatch because that's not his token, that was
00:33:49
Maude's token.
00:33:50
So the spinning top has nothing to do with it.
00:33:53
He's dreaming.
00:33:53
I know.
00:33:55
Well, it's not about whether he's dreaming, it's about whether it's a dream.
00:34:00
Yeah, but I think people read into the top, is it still spinning, is it gonna
00:34:04
fall?
00:34:05
But that wasn't his token.
00:34:07
So it really doesn't even matter.
00:34:09
say we were watching his point of view?
00:34:12
Yeah, I guess that's a good point.
00:34:14
I should have rewatched that too.
00:34:17
Didn't know we'd be talking about it.
00:34:22
But there are, I do like some of the little details that they did as far as,
00:34:26
because they talk about echoes, and obviously that kind of relates into the
00:34:32
doubles, but the abandoned house that they camp in, I think with the bear.
00:34:40
Mm-hmm.
00:34:40
is architecturally identical to the house that Lena and her husband live in outside
00:34:45
of the Shimmer.
00:34:47
Oh, I didn't notice that.
00:34:49
Ooh, creepy.
00:34:51
So that's kind of a nod to the echoes.
00:34:55
And then there's a kind of snake infinity Ouroboros tattoo that Anya has.
00:35:06
But then when they find the soldier that's been killed, he also has it on his arm.
00:35:12
And then Lena has it after she's out of the shimmer as well.
00:35:17
So I think that's also kind of, I mean, A, it's a nod to the Ouroboros, it's kind of
00:35:22
a nod to the theme of self-destruction within the movie.
00:35:25
The Ouroboros, it's the snake eating itself.
00:35:29
Yeah, so that's.
00:35:30
saying Aurora Borealis really poorly.
00:35:32
Nope, I'm saying a real word.
00:35:36
Not, aurora borealis is a word as well, but a real different word.
00:35:40
No, Ouroboros is a symbol.
00:35:42
It's usually, I think, a snake or a dragon in a circle and it's eating itself.
00:35:48
So yeah, that was kind of a nod to the theme of self-destruction, but also a nod
00:35:53
of the assimilation process that's happening.
00:35:58
Yeah.
00:35:59
So I thought that was interesting as well.
00:36:02
Ha ha ha!
00:36:05
You've seen this movie so many times!
00:36:06
Ha ha ha!
00:36:07
I know.
00:36:09
I know.
00:36:11
But no, that's interesting though, because if DNA is refracting across organisms,
00:36:16
then it would make sense that they would be refracting upon each other or onto each
00:36:19
other.
00:36:22
Except tattoos are not really DNA.
00:36:24
No.
00:36:25
That's all right.
00:36:27
It's still cool.
00:36:28
Yeah.
00:36:30
Yeah, maybe they are.
00:36:31
Ha ha ha.
00:36:37
Well...
00:36:37
plot holes allowed in 28 Years Later.
00:36:40
Yeah
00:36:42
You hear us?
00:36:49
How scary did you think it was?
00:36:51
See, it's really hard.
00:36:53
It's really hard because that one scene, I know I literally just said this in Hill
00:36:57
House, that the car scene is the scariest scene ever.
00:37:01
This is actually the scariest, that's a boo scare.
00:37:03
This is I think about it all the time, scary.
00:37:06
And I have to turn on my light and look behind me as I walk into my bedroom,
00:37:11
scary.
00:37:13
You're scared you're in the shimmer and there's a double?
00:37:16
Okay.
00:37:18
Oh.
00:37:19
how it just feels like something's watching you and-
00:37:21
Mm-mm.
00:37:22
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:23
but it's just from that one scene.
00:37:27
So I'm having a really hard time coming up with a number.
00:37:30
Okay, you love math.
00:37:32
Do your little math thing.
00:37:34
Okay, if I did a math thing, well, first of all.
00:37:37
It's scarier than Hill House.
00:37:41
overall.
00:37:44
And I give Hill House a four.
00:37:46
Oh yeah.
00:37:49
I don't think it's a 4.5.
00:37:52
I think that one scene, no, no.
00:37:56
I think that one scene is a five, but I think overall a movie's more like a three,
00:38:05
maybe even a two, but the weight of that one scene makes the whole movie scarier
00:38:12
than Hill House.
00:38:15
So it's a four?
00:38:18
I really want it to be a 4.25.
00:38:21
But it can't be.
00:38:24
So...
00:38:28
Fuck.
00:38:28
I don't know.
00:38:30
I just, I keep going back and forth.
00:38:33
My heart says 4.5.
00:38:35
There you go.
00:38:38
but it's just that one scene.
00:38:39
And I'm the only person that thinks it's a 4.5.
00:38:45
I think maybe, but...
00:38:50
But if that's your heart, that's your heart.
00:38:53
Okay, I mean the bear scene was skeen.
00:38:56
The bear scene was scary too.
00:38:59
It was.
00:39:01
That was pretty scary.
00:39:03
Pretty spooky.
00:39:04
Nothing else though.
00:39:07
The tone, scary.
00:39:10
The music.
00:39:11
But yeah, it's a 4.5.
00:39:14
And I'm giving it a 4.5 confidently for Jeff Burrow and Ben Salisbury.
00:39:20
What did you give it?
00:39:27
Yeah.
00:39:29
I can't even remember it as a horror.
00:39:31
Not even the bear scene that's fucking scary?
00:39:35
I think I remember it being a little tense.
00:39:39
But I think I just remember it being cool.
00:39:43
That was cool.
00:39:45
Yeah, because it's mimicking, you know?
00:39:48
I liked that.
00:39:49
I was more excited, than I was scared.
00:39:54
Yikes.
00:39:56
I'm sorry.
00:40:01
Well.
00:40:02
The double thing did not bother me at all.
00:40:06
I'll take myself in a flight any time.
00:40:11
But it's alien.
00:40:15
It's not you.
00:40:18
It's a little bit you.
00:40:20
No, it looks like you.
00:40:23
Only.
00:40:24
Yeah, but I think it's still...
00:40:26
..mimicking parts of you, you know?
00:40:31
Yeah, but it's not you.
00:40:35
We just had this discussion.
00:40:37
We just had this discussion where Lena, no matter what happens, if it's the real Lena
00:40:42
or the not real Lena, it's not the real Lena.
00:40:44
Yeah, that's fair.
00:40:48
But if I'm not me, then...
00:40:49
Exhausting.
00:40:50
That's all right.
00:40:53
Yeah.
00:40:55
how sexy did you think it was?
00:40:57
A 1.5.
00:41:02
the cast was sexy, but the vibe?
00:41:06
No.
00:41:09
wasn't for me personally.
00:41:13
What about you?
00:41:16
Ah, give it a four.
00:41:21
Yeah.
00:41:21
For what?
00:41:24
It's an all-female cast, an incredible all-female cast.
00:41:28
Okay?
00:41:30
I mean, mostly female, I guess.
00:41:34
It's, I don't know, the right kind of tension.
00:41:37
There's weird, strange animals happening and there's sci-fi and there's aliens and
00:41:42
what more could you possibly ask for?
00:41:46
Personally, not animals.
00:41:52
I'm not shaming, but personally, no thanks.
00:41:57
it's got a vibe about it.
00:42:00
Go for it.
00:42:03
I don't mean I'd fuck the animals, I just mean there's a vibe about it.
00:42:08
I didn't say you would fuck the animals.
00:42:11
You said that.
00:42:12
I- You, when listing off sexy parts of this movie, said animals.
00:42:21
So let's be clear.
00:42:22
You said- I said nothing.
00:42:28
I said great good for you.
00:42:31
It's like a, it's like, it's like a, like an Avatar vibe.
00:42:37
You know, where it's just like everything's primal and sexy, you know,
00:42:45
and blue.
00:42:50
You know?
00:42:53
I don't but
00:42:55
a little.
00:42:59
Okay, yeah.
00:43:01
And then there's water.
00:43:05
I don't know how to explain it any better than I am.
00:43:09
I- hey, the girls that get it will get it.
00:43:12
I'm just not that girl, apparently.
00:43:16
I hope there are some.
00:43:18
I genuinely do as well.
00:43:21
Thank you.
00:43:23
God.
00:43:27
a 1.5.
00:43:31
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:43:38
I gave it a three.
00:43:41
It's, I mean, there's.
00:43:45
The carving.
00:43:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:50
There's the mauling.
00:43:51
There's the...
00:43:54
pretty unsympathetic main character.
00:43:57
It's pretty fucked up.
00:43:59
Doesn't happen a lot in the grand scheme of things.
00:44:01
Doesn't happen a whole lot, so pretty fucked up.
00:44:05
I really hated the fucking mimicking scene.
00:44:08
There's some weird, face stuff happening with faces.
00:44:16
You know how, Ventress, when you see Ventress sitting down underground in the
00:44:20
lighthouse, when you first see her, it's this low up lighting and her eyes are
00:44:26
gone.
00:44:26
And then she turns around and she's normal.
00:44:27
It's like, what the fuck?
00:44:31
So I gave it a three.
00:44:33
It's just, again, I couldn't decide if the whole thing was scary or if it was just
00:44:38
fucked up and uncomfortable.
00:44:41
And so...
00:44:46
I...
00:44:46
Yeah.
00:44:46
Yeah, fucked up got increased because I couldn't decide.
00:44:50
Alright.
00:44:52
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:44:56
a 1.5.
00:45:00
Okay.
00:45:01
I didn't like the insides moving around.
00:45:05
No.
00:45:06
The cutting open the insides is okay though?
00:45:10
Well, that's just horror movie things, you know?
00:45:14
Sometimes people get cut open.
00:45:15
It's not great.
00:45:17
But that whole scene in general, I think, is what...
00:45:21
It wasn't great to...
00:45:25
Watch.
00:45:26
Yeah, see for me what was fucked up about it, no, for me what was fucked up about it
00:45:31
was the cutting itself, not the movement of the intestines.
00:45:35
That didn't bother me at all.
00:45:36
No, I didn't like that.
00:45:41
Oh, kd.
00:45:44
Just, I'm not saying anything.
00:45:48
That's not the part of you that you want them inside.
00:45:57
I...
00:46:00
was not talking about that at all, but...
00:46:04
I feel like it was.
00:46:05
But anyways, overall what did you think?
00:46:13
Oh my god.
00:46:15
It's a five overall.
00:46:17
It's a five without question 555.
00:46:21
The biggest five ever.
00:46:23
I fucking love this movie.
00:46:25
I'm disappointed that you aren't the one that introduced me to it.
00:46:28
I'm sad that I had to find it on by myself.
00:46:30
It's not your fault though.
00:46:34
And I know I did.
00:46:36
It's the only time though.
00:46:38
I haven't really watched anything else other than Saltburn but that's not horror.
00:46:43
Yeah, I know.
00:46:45
And I had literally just said A few weeks ago that we couldn't put a bunch of fives
00:46:50
together because this one is a five and we had pieced together the schedule But yeah
00:46:56
five without question such a fucking good movie.
00:47:00
It's sci-fi.
00:47:01
It's sexy.
00:47:02
It's Fucking terrifying to me.
00:47:05
I guess i'm the only one It's really fucked It's memorable Not to you
00:47:11
apparently
00:47:15
I fucking love this movie.
00:47:17
I'm bummed you don't like it as much.
00:47:18
I already know you don't.
00:47:20
It's not a five, but what did you give it?
00:47:24
Okay.
00:47:26
but I do like this movie.
00:47:28
And I actually liked it more this time than the first time I watched it.
00:47:34
The first time I watched it, I was really taken out by the lighthouse scene.
00:47:38
I did not like it.
00:47:40
And it kind of left a bad impression on me.
00:47:42
This time, I think because I knew that was coming, I received it a little bit better.
00:47:52
but it's still my least favorite part.
00:47:55
Sorry.
00:47:57
I gave it a four though.
00:47:58
Oh, okay.
00:48:00
Okay!
00:48:02
Yeah!
00:48:03
Oh yeah!
00:48:05
No, I do really enjoy it.
00:48:06
I think it's well written, it's well acted.
00:48:09
Most of the visual effects I liked.
00:48:12
Sans the morph suit at the end.
00:48:15
But yeah.
00:48:21
And it's fun rewatching it when I didn't remember a lot.
00:48:25
Good.
00:48:26
Excellent.
00:48:28
See ya.
00:48:30
Good.
00:48:32
Yeah, no, that makes me feel a lot better.
00:48:35
Oh, God, I thought you were going to say two or something.
00:48:38
No, no, not at all.
00:48:40
No, this is a good movie.
00:48:42
It's just, honestly, I just feel bad that my least favorite scene is What makes this
00:48:48
movie so good to you.
00:48:50
Well, I don't know if that's what makes it good.
00:48:52
That is what unsettled me significantly.
00:48:56
It's not even my favorite scene.
00:48:57
My favorite scene is the fucking shark crocodile, duh.
00:49:02
Duh.
00:49:03
Duh.
00:49:05
That thing, what, how long has it been?
00:49:08
Six years?
00:49:08
Fucking holds up.
00:49:10
That's such good CGI?
00:49:10
Yeah.
00:49:10
And it's, what?
00:49:11
It's creepy.
00:49:17
Creepy little demon zombie gator shark.
00:49:22
terrifying
00:49:23
Yeah, that's not I don't think that's my favorite scene.
00:49:25
No.
00:49:25
Yeah, it is.
00:49:25
Yeah, it is.
00:49:26
Yeah, that's my favorite scene.
00:49:27
It's fucking cool Yeah, it's a yeah the
00:49:35
The other scene is like, I don't know.
00:49:38
It just freaks me out.
00:49:41
It was just spooky.
00:49:42
It's very spooky.
00:49:44
Would you survive?
00:49:45
No, because I'm definitely going in there.
00:49:47
I'm going into the shimmer.
00:49:50
Definitely.
00:49:51
It's like fucking Pandora in there.
00:49:55
With the deer and the crocodile and hell yeah.
00:50:02
Like I said, I wouldn't know that stuff is in there until I go in.
00:50:05
Now I'm going.
00:50:07
I'm going and then nobody comes out.
00:50:10
Once you're in, you're not you anymore.
00:50:11
Your DNA is being refracted.
00:50:13
That's true.
00:50:16
So now I'm dead or refracted, assimilated, annihilated, whatever.
00:50:22
That's the name of the movie.
00:50:24
I...
00:50:24
Yeah.
00:50:27
That one line, kind of...
00:50:29
Did she have to say annihilated?
00:50:31
Like, why?
00:50:33
We get it.
00:50:33
They're getting annihilated.
00:50:34
I get it.
00:50:35
You don't have to fucking say it.
00:50:38
In the book, do you want to know what it is in the book?
00:50:42
Or should I not spoil?
00:50:43
I found out what it means in the book, and I'm kind of sad because it's a little bit
00:50:46
of a spoiler.
00:50:49
Yeah.
00:50:50
why it's called that.
00:50:53
Yeah, tell me.
00:50:56
You're gonna Google it later anyway.
00:50:57
Let's be honest.
00:50:58
Let's just.
00:50:58
gonna, I'm gonna read the book.
00:51:00
I've got an Audible (not sponsored) token.
00:51:01
It's just sitting here.
00:51:03
So from what I've gathered in the book, Ventress is using hypnosis on the other
00:51:10
women?
00:51:12
And annihilation is the key word for them to off themselves.
00:51:21
Yeah, but I think Lena's character is immune to it somehow.
00:51:26
I think because her DNA is being changed and she's assimilating.
00:51:32
And so she uses it to try to get her to.
00:51:37
Self-destruct?
00:51:40
Oh, but nobody self-destructs in this movie.
00:51:44
Well, I think, A, the movie's not based on the book, right?
00:51:49
Well, it is, but, you know, barely.
00:51:52
And B, I think the self-destruction is more so in who the characters are and why
00:51:58
they go in.
00:52:01
I think, you know, I mean, they're going on a suicide mission, essentially.
00:52:04
They're not planning on coming out.
00:52:06
And I think that's kind of where the self-destruction aspect comes in.
00:52:10
Okay, fair.
00:52:12
Not so much in them actually, in the literal sense, self-destructive.
00:52:18
Hmm, interesting.
00:52:22
So Ventress really is the bad guy.
00:52:25
Oh, I don't see, I don't know much more context than that.
00:52:30
She might have been doing it because she thought that was what needed to be done, I
00:52:33
don't know.
00:52:35
Right, yeah.
00:52:38
I don't know.
00:52:39
It makes me want to read it even more.
00:52:40
I know.
00:52:41
Interesting.
00:52:44
One of the funniest comedy shows I've ever been to was a comedian hypnotist.
00:52:48
Hypnoti- hip- hypnotist?
00:52:52
A comedian hypnotist.
00:52:56
Fucking hilarious.
00:52:57
I don't know.
00:52:57
They're always really fucking funny though.
00:52:59
Haven't you ever seen one?
00:53:00
Okay, and this has nothing to do with the podcast at all.
00:53:04
Um.
00:53:06
It was in high school, it was our senior night.
00:53:07
Like did you ever have a lockdown, senior lockdown or whatever?
00:53:11
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:13
Ours was Vegas themed.
00:53:14
So we had the headlining show.
00:53:16
We had poker and prizes and it was so fun.
00:53:22
And then we had this, the headlining show was this comedian hypnotist guy.
00:53:28
And he just called up 10 of the people I was graduating with, people I knew.
00:53:32
put them in a line and made them do the funniest fucking shit.
00:53:34
It was the funniest thing I've ever seen.
00:53:35
I highly recommend a comedy hypnotist.
00:53:40
You heard it here first.
00:53:46
I would survive.
00:53:47
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask you.
00:53:49
You're not going in.
00:53:50
I'm not going in.
00:53:52
I'm not that curious.
00:53:55
If I know, cause we're putting ourselves in the context of this situation, right?
00:53:59
Which is, there's a shimmer.
00:54:03
No one's come out of it, except for one guy who's dying.
00:54:10
I'm good.
00:54:12
That tells me all I need to know.
00:54:14
I'm gonna go home, have a breakfast sandwich or something.
00:54:20
Even if it's your husband that you cheated on?
00:54:23
Clearly I don't love him very much if I cheated on him.
00:54:27
I would probably stay by his side, but what am I gonna do?
00:54:32
She only went in there because she felt guilty about what she did.
00:54:36
A, I'm not cheating on someone in the first place, so I wouldn't, sorry.
00:54:42
Well, I guess how far, we're 55 episodes in and we still don't fucking know, how
00:54:49
far into the process are we putting ourselves?
00:54:51
Are we Lena who has a husband who she has cheated on and she feels guilty?
00:54:57
Is that how far we are and then do we die?
00:55:00
No, I think it's you yourself putting you in the context of the movie, in the
00:55:07
situation.
00:55:09
So I think it's fair to say she didn't have to go in.
00:55:15
Okay, yes.
00:55:16
But me myself.
00:55:18
I personally don't see a world where I cheat on my husband.
00:55:24
Or have a husband.
00:55:31
So I just don't think I would have that guilt that forces me to go in.
00:55:37
And I'm me, right?
00:55:38
I don't have the steady hand or the tools to complete a procedure like that.
00:55:43
I'm not going to go in.
00:55:46
That was a Super Bad quote.
00:55:48
Um...
00:55:48
Heheheheh!
00:55:49
went right over my head.
00:55:51
Fair.
00:55:52
Anyways, it's for all you McLovin fans out there.
00:55:57
Fun fact, McLovin and me, same birthday.
00:56:00
Not year, but day.
00:56:01
Anyways, ahem.
00:56:04
I'm not going.
00:56:08
They'd have to force me in.
00:56:11
If I have to go in, no, I'm dead.
00:56:14
But I'm not.
00:56:17
I went in already.
00:56:18
and I love that for you.
00:56:22
I will be right there waiting for you to get back, fully refracted.
00:56:28
I don't even think I'd be, I'm not, I'm not like, I'm not coming back.
00:56:33
I could see you going the route of Tessa Thompson's character, where you fully,
00:56:39
fully assimilate.
00:56:41
I'm one of you now.
00:56:44
Yeah.
00:56:45
one with Eywa.
00:56:49
Avatar reference.
00:56:55
You're allowed to quote fucking Superbad, I'm not allowed to quote Avatar.
00:56:58
I was just about to say, you know, there's two types of people in life.
00:57:06
Hey, Super Bad people.
00:57:11
That movie slaps.
00:57:13
All right, well, next week.
00:57:18
We- I already kind of told you this, but we have another request that came in.
00:57:25
So your husband DM'd me and told you- or told me to make you watch the Silence of
00:57:32
the Lambs.
00:57:33
So we're gonna- and that's what we'll be discussing next week.
00:57:38
Tell me what it's about.
00:57:40
I feel like this one's a hard one to not have any context for, so I feel like you
00:57:44
probably know semi?
00:57:47
I do have some context, and just for extra context outside of the movie, this is the
00:57:54
only movie that my mother has ever told me don't ever watch this movie.
00:57:59
So I'm really fucking excited to watch it.
00:58:01
To have somebody else tell me to so that I can be like, I didn't decide to watch it,
00:58:06
somebody else told me to watch it.
00:58:08
I'm sorry, kd's mom.
00:58:11
I'm sure you are.
00:58:16
So it's about a woman named Clarice.
00:58:20
Great start.
00:58:21
Thank you.
00:58:22
And a man named Hannibal, right, Lecter?
00:58:30
You tell me.
00:58:31
I'm pretty sure.
00:58:31
I'm pretty sure it's...
00:58:32
I'm pretty sure this is the Hannibal Lecter movie.
00:58:34
What's it called?
00:58:35
What's the movie called?
00:58:37
Silence of the Lambs.
00:58:37
I forgot.
00:58:39
Silence of the Lambs.
00:58:40
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Silence of the Lambs is Hannibal Lecter.
00:58:43
And Hannibal Lecter is a murderer body part collector.
00:58:49
He's psycho.
00:58:50
He's insane.
00:58:51
Absolutely insane.
00:58:53
He's a mass, not a mass murderer, but a repeat offender.
00:58:56
And he keeps people's skins.
00:58:59
He keeps people underground.
00:59:03
First of all.
00:59:04
And then once they die, after he hoses them off a bunch, he keeps their skin.
00:59:13
He then he wears their skin.
00:59:15
He so
00:59:16
He needs to be other, he wants to be the other people.
00:59:21
So he's collecting people, making sure their skin is nice with a hose.
00:59:27
And then, I don't know how that works, but he's a murderer.
00:59:33
Yeah.
00:59:36
And then he just collects them.
00:59:37
He collects, he collects their skins and Clarice is not a victim.
00:59:45
Mm, okay.
00:59:47
Yes.
00:59:49
She is reporting on all of these missing people.
00:59:53
Yeah, missing people.
00:59:55
Where are the people?
00:59:56
Where are they?
00:59:58
Hannibal Lecter's inside them.
01:00:02
Careful.
01:00:04
Right?
01:00:05
their skin.
01:00:08
And that's it.
01:00:09
And she solves the mystery.
01:00:12
She reports it.
01:00:14
Yep.
01:00:16
And then Hannibal goes to jail.
01:00:18
And then he becomes a murder investigator because he's like the perfect murderer.
01:00:24
He's like, I, well, no, he's like, he's like the mind of a murderer, the perfect.
01:00:32
You've got a murderer's mind.
01:00:33
You can be useful to us.
01:00:35
So Clarice hires him and now he works for.
01:00:40
and then the sequel is a buddy cop duo.
01:00:43
No.
01:00:44
There's a sequel?
01:00:47
Technically, but we don't count it.
01:00:51
No.
01:00:52
Oh, there's a sound to the lamps too.
01:00:55
No.
01:00:58
But there's I think it's more of a spiritual success.
01:01:01
Is it a technical sequel?
01:01:03
I don't know.
01:01:05
Sorry, two prequel films.
01:01:09
Apologies.
01:01:11
There you go.
01:01:14
He's probably a murderer because his name is fucking Hannibal.
01:01:17
Yeah.
01:01:18
I'd kill at least one person.
01:01:22
You'd almost have to at that point.
01:01:26
Great.
01:01:28
That was the closest you've ever gotten, I think.
01:01:34
Which is fair.
01:01:36
Kind of hard to not know anything about this movie.
01:01:40
Um, yeah.
01:01:43
does not say, Hello Clarice.
01:01:45
I know that much.
01:01:51
Thank you.
01:01:52
Hahaha.
01:01:53
Because everybody always says, Hello Clarice.
01:01:56
But he doesn't say that.
01:01:57
it's been parodied a lot.
01:02:00
And I know in some of the parodies they've said, hello Clarice, so.
01:02:03
Is it in a Scream movie?
01:02:06
I mean, not Scream, Scary Movie?
01:02:09
Movie?
01:02:13
Now I'm trying to remember if there's, I'm sure they've parodied parts of this, but I
01:02:18
can't remember a specific part.
01:02:22
But all honesty, the one that I'm thinking of is from Dr.
01:02:27
Doolittle, starring Eddie Murphy.
01:02:30
Oh, you're right, you're right, the guinea pig.
01:02:35
I can't remember what animal it is.
01:02:37
I just remember it said it and I remember my mom laughing and me asking why that was
01:02:44
funny and she had to say it's a movie reference that you're not watching
01:02:50
It's either the guinea pig or the orangutan.
01:02:54
There's an orangutan too.
01:02:56
Okay.
01:02:57
I couldn't remember anything more than that.
01:02:58
I just remember an animal says it when someone walks into a basement or
01:03:02
something.
01:03:04
Yeah.
01:03:06
Maybe it's the tiger.
01:03:08
See, I was thinking it was a pig, but.
01:03:11
pig?
01:03:11
It's not the...
01:03:12
well maybe it is a pig!
01:03:13
Wait, okay, I'm just gonna look it up real quick.
01:03:16
It's really gonna bother me.
01:03:18
Not the furious type.
01:03:22
First of all, it's Dr.
01:03:23
Dolittle 2, not Dr.
01:03:25
Dolittle 1, which is iconic that we both know it.
01:03:29
The sequel.
01:03:33
Whoa, it is a boar Archie the boar
01:03:38
Kinda pig-like.
01:03:40
Yeah, that's pretty, that's as pig as you can be without being one.
01:03:44
If there's one thing I know, it's Dr.
01:03:46
Doolittle 2, starring Eddie Murphy and Raven Simone.
01:03:50
What is she in that?
01:03:53
I can't actually remember.
01:03:57
OK, that's what I thought.
01:03:58
Nailed it.
01:03:59
Ha ha.
01:04:00
Um...
01:04:01
Oh, no, wait, wait!
01:04:04
I'm an idiot.
01:04:05
We're...
01:04:05
I'm a...
01:04:06
Archie the bear?
01:04:09
I'm just an idiot.
01:04:09
I wanted it to be a boar for you.
01:04:13
Um...
01:04:15
I read boar instead of bear.
01:04:17
Sorry.
01:04:17
It's a bear.
01:04:18
It's a bear?
01:04:19
If there's one thing I don't know, it's Dr.
01:04:22
Doolittle 2.
01:04:26
Ha ha
01:04:28
Yeah.
01:04:29
Huh.
01:04:31
But yeah, you did all right.
01:04:34
You got some things mixed up, but that's okay.
01:04:41
He is in it.
01:04:42
Oh, he's not the murderer?
01:04:46
He's a murderer.
01:04:47
Ha ha ha.
01:04:50
Oh god.
01:04:51
But Hannibal doesn't wear people's skin, kd.
01:04:55
Hannibal is a cannibal.
01:04:57
Oh!
01:04:58
We eat people.
01:05:00
Wait, you're spoiling it.
01:05:01
You're spoiling it.
01:05:02
that's revealed in like the first couple minutes.
01:05:09
I feel like you should, it rhymes.
01:05:11
Yeah, Hannibal cannibal.
01:05:13
That's why he started eating people.
01:05:16
That's why I thought it was funny when he said it was because of his name.
01:05:22
Yeah.
01:05:22
Dylan will watch this one with me too.
01:05:23
Oh my gosh.
01:05:24
Exciting.
01:05:25
Yeah.
01:05:26
But yes, he is a murderer in this movie.
01:05:29
Okay, excellent.
01:05:33
Great.
01:05:33
Okay, well.
01:05:35
We'll talk about it next week.
01:05:37
Sounds good.
01:05:38
Don't forget to like and subscribe.
01:05:40
Please.
01:05:43
Please.
01:05:47
Alright, see you next Tuesday.
01:05:52
Don't, that's like a, that's, people say that as a euphemism.
01:05:57
I know, that's why I said it.
01:06:04
Hahaha