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Hello.
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Hello.
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Happy Tuesday.
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Happy Tuesday.
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Welcome back to Killer Q's podcast.
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Hell yeah.
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It's a special episode.
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Yeah, for two reasons.
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Well, first reason is it's our 150th episode.
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Woo woo woo.
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Crazy.
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Three years.
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Yeah, very cool.
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Mm-hmm.
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Quite the commitment.
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Truly.
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What's the second reason you tell him?
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The second reason is this is our last episode of the year.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah, we're gonna take a little two-week hiatus for the holidays.
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So I feel like that's clean too, you know?
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End on 150, 2026, 151 and beyond.
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you agree since, you know, we already decided so.
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Too late if you don't.
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was my idea.
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That'd be crazy if live recording you decided actually, no.
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Yeah, we don't have to do that.
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No, we'll see you back in January.
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But first, we're here to talk about two films.
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Poltergeist and Poltergeist.
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Exactly.
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But first, first.
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before that even...
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before you even think about hearing about poltergeist and poltergeist.
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Yeah.
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I've got news.
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You've got new movies.
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Let's do it.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I'm going to talk for a really long time.
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I hope you like it.
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I always like it when you talk for a long time.
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Thank you.
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It was a big year for horror and now that the Golden Globe Noms were officially announced we can look back and reflect on just how big of a year it was.
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I've got all of the horror nominations right here.
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sex.
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To kick it off, Frankenstein and Sinners were both nominated for Best Motion Picture Drama.
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Sinners, Weapons and K-Pop Demon Hunters were all nominated for Cinematic and Box Office Achievement.
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Oscar Isaac of Frankenstein and Michael B.
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Jordan of Sinners were both nominated for Best Performance by a Male Actor Drama.
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Amy Madigan was nominated for Best Supporting Actress in any Motion Picture for her role in Weapons.
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Jacob Elordi was nominated for best supporting actor in Frankenstein, which is crazy because that was definitely a starring role that feels off to me, you got supporting.
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Ryan Coogler and GDT were both nominated for best director for Sinners and Frankenstein respectively.
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Coogler was also nominated for best screenplay with Sinners.
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Alexis Blau was nominated for best original score for Motion Picture.
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for Frankenstein as well as Ludwig Gorinsson for Sinners.
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I lied to you.
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The song from Sinners was nominated for best original song.
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It's Up Against Golden from K-Pop Demon Hunter.
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So good luck.
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we're still cooking Bella Ramsey was nominated for best TV actress drama for the last of us and Jenna Ortega for comedy musical For Wednesday obviously Black Mirror was nominated
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for best limited anthology or TV motion picture for which Rashida Jones and Paul Giamatti were also nominated as best actress slash actor and finally Charlie Hunnam was nominated
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for best actor for his role in
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Monster at the Ed Gein story.
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Lots.
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big year.
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It was.
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It's crazy how...
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I mean, I lied to you.
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It should win.
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It's one of the best songs I've ever heard in my whole life.
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No, in K-pop Demon Hunter is great.
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Loved it.
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But just in my mind, no competition.
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But what's also funny is that I don't even think that that's the best song from Sinners and I don't think Golden's the best song from K-pop Demon Hunter.
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So commercially successful, yes.
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But last time I seen this song is always going to be my favorite from Sinners.
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So good.
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Yeah, I think Looking at this list.
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I think kpop has a good chance to win The box office achievement cinematic and box office achievement
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I think Amy Madigan for weapons and then everything else is a toss up between Sanders and Frankenstein.
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Yeah, I'd have to look at the full list to see.
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Because those, you just mentioned like the horror movies that were nominated, not all of the nominees, so I feel like I'd have to look at everything.
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Obviously I want to center sweep, but do I think that anybody's actually going to give it to them?
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Who's to say?
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Probably not.
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Two more little news is from me.
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28 years later, the Bone Temple comes out next month, as you're about to tell us.
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As a reminder, it was filmed consecutively with 28 years later.
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The third installment of the neutrality has had some movement.
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Alex Garland is obviously writing the script and Killian Murphy is in talks to return for the third and final year's film.
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Danny Boyle directed the first installment, Nia Dacosta directed the second.
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Boyle has expressed interest in
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rounding it out by directing the third but that hasn't been confirmed yet he's just said that he wants to I still haven't seen yours I heard it was very good and I know Nia
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Dacosta is good so I can imagine the second one will be good too but you really can't lose with this third one as long as one of the two of them comes back for it and especially if
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Killian comes back
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Yeah, it's interesting that they did the first two back to back, but then not the third.
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Yeah.
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Maybe it's more of a consecutive story.
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Yeah, I guess we'll find out.
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Yeah, and then everybody in those two dies and they have no choice but to bring back Killian because he's the last man on earth.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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I hire me to write it.
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Just kidding.
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Yeah.
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you heard it here first.
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He's probably already done writing it.
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Anyway.
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For the upcoming winter holidays, we've found some things to bring you some holiday fear.
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Get it?
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Like cheer, holiday, holiday, cheer, holiday fear.
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No, that's good, yeah.
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Thank you.
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If you need something to watch, Nicolas Cage's Jesus horror movie, The Carpenter's Son is now available on Apple TV and Prime Video.
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If you need something to gift, Lionsgate launched a Saw Holiday Merch Collection featuring a festive Billy on various ornaments, shirts and hoodies.
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It's very cutesy.
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If you need help getting into the holiday spirit.
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The newest Yule log is now available on Prime Video and YouTube.
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It's called Fallout the Ghoul log and features festive music, the ghoul, CX 404 and Mr.
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New Vegas against the cozy glow of a man's burning arm.
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Mm-hmm.
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And then finally if you need something to look forward to don't forget that the Robert Eggers Christmas Carol project is in the works and it has officially been confirmed that
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Willem Dafoe is going to play Scrooge
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that checks out.
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Mm-hmm.
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I would like the Billy ornament.
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Yeah, they're cute.
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They're super cute.
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He's like sitting like Santa in front of a tree with presents and his bike.
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Yeah, love that.
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Very cute.
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Alright, I'll pass it to you.
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I've done enough talking.
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Tell us about the January 2026 holy shit new movies.
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Yeah, I can't believe this year is already over.
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It's crazy.
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Time flies, baby.
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Yeah, since we are taking a little hiatus for the holidays, I'm gonna tell you about January and new movies now so you can prepare yourselves.
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for disappointment.
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Probably.
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Statistically, historically.
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Most likely, I'm not going to give my hopes up, I'll say that.
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Yeah.
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On January 2nd, we're getting We Bury the Dead.
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After a catastrophic military disaster, the dead don't just rise, they hunt.
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The military insist they are harmless and slow moving, offering hope to grieving families.
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But when Ava, played by Daisy Ridley, enters a quarantine zone searching for her missing husband, she uncovers the horrifying truth.
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The undead are growing more violent, more restless, and more dangerous with every passing hour.
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You lost me in military, but you got me back a little bit at Daisy Ridley in Undead.
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There we go.
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military, got it.
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In my mind, I corrected to zombie and then you said undead.
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And so was like, wait, I lost you at zombie and then got you back with undead.
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That's crazy.
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But I wasn't, I blacked out when I said military and then you said it again.
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And then, yeah.
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Yeah.
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uninterested we are in military movies with the exception of one.
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Pearl Harbor.
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Well, one of us, yeah.
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Josh Hartnett, no, doesn't do it for you in the parachute hanger.
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That was my sexual awakening as a child, but I haven't seen that movie since I was nine years old, so there's no telling if I would still feel that way.
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For him, probably.
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Very good-lucky man.
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Alright, on January 9th, we are getting Primate, a college student.
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Yeah, a college student and her friends find themselves in a fight for their lives when a ratted chimpanzee goes on a violent rampage.
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Well, that's not the best synopsis.
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That's what they said.
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Is it rabid?
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It's a pet!
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Yeah, but why is it attacking Katie if not for the rabies?
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Because it's a sentient being, knows it deserves more than being at home using a tablet to communicate with people.
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Yeah, that's so true, actually.
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There are plenty of chimpanzees that have been had as pets and did attack because they shouldn't be pets.
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Yeah, thank god Jane Goodall's not around to see this.
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villainizing chimpanzees should be disgusted.
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Yeah.
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They're jazzing the chimpanzees, Katie.
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my god.
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Honestly, if that's what it takes for us to get serious about conservation, so be it.
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So be it, we must have a Jaws for every animal that needs protection.
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Yep.
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Alright, also on the ninth we are getting sleepwalker.
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Haunted by terrifying visions, a young woman's sleepwalking episodes begin to intensify, accelerating her descent into darkness.
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The star is Hayden Penetier.
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It's, yeah, it started excited and then I feel like by the end of that, it wasn't as excited anymore.
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Well...
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I just don't feel like she's been in a lot of hits, you know?
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Scream four.
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Was a film.
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Was it a good one?
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It was a hit in my heart.
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Rest in peace to screen franchise.
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All right.
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On the 16th, we are getting the movie Katie mentioned 28 years later, The Bone Temple.
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This is the only reason why I'm a little, you know, I don't know, because I did like 28 years later.
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Some people didn't.
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I liked it.
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Who's to say?
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This one is Nia Tocosta.
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Anyways, a continuation of the epic story, Dr.
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Kelson finds himself in a shocking new relationship and spikes encounter with Jimmy Crystal becomes a nightmare he can't escape.
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In the world of the Bone Temple, the infected are no longer the greatest threat to survival.
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The inhumanity of the survivors can be stranger and more terrifying.
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Which, by the way, that's not- that's just 28 years later.
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That's literally the 28 days, weeks, years franchise.
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has always been about people being more terrifying than zombies.
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That's kind of the whole vibe.
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So.
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Also, I don't know any of those characters.
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So like why is your synopsis not you?
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The synopsis.
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Ooh, these characters are back and this character is back.
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I don't know.
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It just felt weird.
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people who are gonna watch it have seen the first one.
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You don't know because you didn't watch it, but the synopsis is for people who have, so.
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I wish to watch it.
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Yeah, but you wouldn't, you wouldn't, you know, watch Poltergeist 2 and be like, who are the Freelings?
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Why are they telling me about them?
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You know, because you should know if you're going.
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Yeah.
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All right, also on the 16th, we are getting Night Patrol.
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An LAPD officer must have put aside his differences with the area's street gangs when he discovers a local police task force is harboring a horrific secret that endangers the
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residents of the housing projects he grew up in.
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The stars just in long.
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Oh, scream king.
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Yeah, he kind of lost me at Coyotes because they used AI.
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And now he's in a cop movie, so...
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You're losing me, Justin Long.
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I think he plays the officer, yeah.
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The main character.
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Also, the title is too similar to Night Swim.
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already have PTSD.
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Mmm, yes.
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Everything that happens at night gets released in January.
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Yeah.
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Finally, on the 16th, we're getting a leave when architect Jesse Hughes finds a new opportunity with his job that lands him in Florida.
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He's terrifying, by the way, Florida.
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Scary.
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I know, they've got me.
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He uproots his wife and their two kids to an old house in the countryside in the middle of nowhere.
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I don't know Florida that well, but I don't imagine country sides in Florida, but that's just me.
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Anyways, he's trying to piece back together an almost broken marriage, but Jesse later finds out that sometimes a change is not always the best solution when they get some
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unexpected visitors in their new home.
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That's just the synopsis for poltergeist.
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Yeah.
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Well, Camping worse than the 2015 version.
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Spoiler alert.
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That's...
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There's no spoiler needed.
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Nobody liked that movie ever.
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Alright, two more.
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One on the 23rd, we are getting Return to Silent Hill, when a mysterious...
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Yeah, yeah, yeah!
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Look at this, Trashuary being redeemed, one movie at a time.
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Yeah, I'll hold my horses, I'm sorry.
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Yeah, I apologize.
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Thank you.
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When a mysterious letter calls him back to Silent Hill in search of his lost love, James finds a once recognizable town and encounters terrifying figures both familiar and new and
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begins to question his own sanity.
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Familiar you think peepee heads gonna be in it?
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One can only hope.
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I can't imagine them doing anything Silent Hill without...
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without PPhead.
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Not, I mean I know that there's games that don't involve him, but he just feels so synonymous with Silent Hill to me.
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Yeah.
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I'm the nurse.
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Yeah, you gotta give the people what they want.
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Mm-hmm
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All right, last one, January 30th.
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My other slim, slim hope for January.
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Send help.
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A woman and her overbearing boss become stranded on a deserted island after a plane crash.
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They must overcome past grievances and work together to survive, but ultimately it's a battle of wills and wits to make it out alive.
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And this stars Rachel McAdams and my love of my wife Dylan O'Brien.
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So.
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It could be good.
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It could be good, but listen, if I think an actor's hot, I'll probably watch everything they're in just because like I've watched a lot of clunkers for some hotties is what I
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said once and I stand by that and I will continue to watch clunkers for hotties.
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I will say I've liked most of his movies, but he's had some clunkers.
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Is this gonna be one of them?
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Maybe, but I really hope not.
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Rachel McAdams is good.
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Yeah, she's great.
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Yeah, I-
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faith that even if the movie itself is not good, the performances are gonna be great.
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Yeah.
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That I think we can lean into.
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True.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay, well, good.
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Good.
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Some opportunities for January to not be terrible.
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Yeah, some little nuggets of hope.
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Yeah, are we going to see all of them?
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Which one are we going to talk about?
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We're not gonna see all of them probably.
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Yeah, probably not.
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Are you going to see all of them?
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Maybe.
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worth a shot.
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I'm gonna try to see at least.
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half.
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Yeah, it's only four.
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One a week, you got it.
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Yeah, easy.
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Easy.
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Okay, well great, thanks.
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You're so welcome.
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I am genuinely looking forward to a couple of those.
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same.
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Well.
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Should we kick off this sewed?
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Let's do it, Katie.
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21 minutes in, let's kick off the sod.
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Okay, well first we're going to talk about Poltergeist, 1982.
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The original Poltergeist is a 1982 supernatural horror film written by Steven Spielberg, Michael Gras, and Mark Victor and is directed by Tobe Hooper.
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It stars Craig T.
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Nelson, Jo Beth Williams, and Heather O'Rourke.
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Strange and creepy happenings beset an average California family, the Freelings, when ghosts commune with them through their television set.
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Initially friendly and playful, the spirits turn unexpectedly menacing and when young Carol Anne goes missing, parents Steve and Diane turn to a parapsychologist and exorcist
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for help.
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This version had a 10.7 million dollar budget and made about 77 million at the box office.
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It was a critical success.
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It has a 7.3 out of 10 on IMDB.
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3.5 out of 5 on Letterboxd and 88 % critics and 79 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Nice.
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Yeah, it was a movie.
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It sure was.
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Should I just like rapid fire some of its successes?
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Okay.
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The movie's line, They're Here was voted as the 69th nice movie quote by the AFI.
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The film was selected by the New York Times as one of the best 1000 movies ever made.
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It's included in among the AFI's 2001 list of the top 100 most heart-founding American movies.
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In my mind, I was thinking like, oh, 2001 moments, but it came out in 2001 and it's a hundred moments.
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That was confusing in my brain.
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And now I just learned how to read.
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It is.
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Yeah, thank you so much.
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I'm glad to have the support of my closest friends and listeners.
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we well, I sorted that out.
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It is the most commercially successful of the Poltergeist trilogy.
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and also the remake, which they didn't include.
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Poltergeist's special effects and score were both nominated for Oscars, but they lost to ET, which we'll probably talk about ET a ton in this episode.
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And in the years since its release, it's been recognized as a horror classic.
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It was nominated again for three Academy Awards.
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It was named the Chicago Film Critic Association's as its 20th scariest film ever made and a scene that made Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments as well.
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It also appeared as number 84.
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on the AFI's 100 years, 100 thrills list.
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Yeah.
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Classic, it's done a lot.
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Mm-hmm all of those things
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All of them.
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I was definitely surprised by the PG rating.
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Mm-hmm.
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It was originally given an R rating by the MPA because of children in peril.
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Yeah.
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but it was lowered to PG because there was not at the time PG-13 rating.
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Mm-hmm.
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In hindsight, it's widely believed to have, it should have been a PG-13 had there been a PG-13.
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Yeah, I feel like that happens a lot with older horror movies where they're rated PG even though they shouldn't be.
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But again, they're not ours, so it's like, if there wasn't an option for the in-between, you'd think they would have thought of the in-between much earlier than they did, though.
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Yeah, between PG and R is a huge jump.
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either for kids or not for kids.
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Those are the only two options.
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Yeah.
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Originally, Steven Spielberg wanted a PG rating so that the film could run as a double feature in theaters with ET, his other film that came out that same year.
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uh
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The screenwriters were plotting out the screenplay and Caroline was going to be killed in the first act and then haunt the house in the second.
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They eventually decided that was too dark, took out a whole bunch of stuff.
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And that's what we're given today.
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The only death in the entire movie is the bird.
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crazy.
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Yeah, rip the bird.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, Time Magazine and Newsweek tagged the summer of 1982 as the Spielberg summer because this and ET were both coming out.
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They also were filming them like 20 minutes away from each other.
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Spielberg was just on both at once, I think, for a while there.
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Running back and
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there was even some like discourse as to whether Spielberg was more of a director than he was a producer on Poltergeist, but there was a clause in his contract for ET that he could
00:23:23
not be taking on multiple directors projects at a time so that he could focus on ET.
00:23:29
So he offered the
00:23:35
He offered the directing credit to Toby Hooper.
00:23:38
Yeah, which I think he originally offered for him to direct ET and he declined and so he gave him Poltergeist instead.
00:23:47
And what's interesting about the whole controversy is that it feels like the two of them agree that they just worked on this movie together and there was no...
00:23:56
there doesn't seem to be any hostility between Hooper and Spielberg.
00:24:00
Yeah, no.
00:24:01
everyone else was just like arguing about who directed it.
00:24:04
It's like, I don't think they care.
00:24:06
Like they just worked on this movie and yes, Hupert was probably a little bit more involved than a producer usually is, but like they both seem in agreement that Hupert
00:24:16
directed most of it.
00:24:17
So I don't know.
00:24:20
Yeah, there was a whole investigation about it.
00:24:25
which they concluded there wasn't enough evidence to make him a co-director.
00:24:30
But yeah, it's weird that like Hooper didn't ask for the investigation to happen.
00:24:34
Like it didn't seem like either director, I guess, well, director or producer really had an issue with how it all came to be.
00:24:45
But this controversy kind of happened afterwards, which I don't know, it just seems so weird to me.
00:24:50
Usually you'd expect this to happen if like the director or the producer.
00:24:55
wanted a different credit or felt someone overstepped or something like that, but it doesn't seem like that happened.
00:25:01
So it's just such a quote unquote controversy to me where I'm like, do people involved don't care?
00:25:07
Why does anybody else?
00:25:10
Yeah.
00:25:11
Well.
00:25:13
Mm, it is what it is.
00:25:15
Yeah.
00:25:16
But yeah, Spielberg hired Hooper after being impressed, obviously, by Texas Chainsaw Massacre from 1974 and The Fun House from 1981.
00:25:26
Drew Barrymore was considered for the role of Carol Anne.
00:25:29
Mm-hmm.
00:25:30
But she wasn't quite what Spielberg was imagining.
00:25:34
He was imagining someone a little bit more angelic.
00:25:37
eh But.
00:25:40
Drew's audition for Poltergeist is actually what landed her the part of Gertie in ET.
00:25:47
Cute.
00:25:48
Yeah, I always think that that's cute when someone auditions for one movie and the director's like, no, but I have this other thing that I want to put you in.
00:25:55
Yeah, right.
00:25:57
nice.
00:25:58
Mm-hmm really kicked off her career, too
00:26:03
Yeah.
00:26:05
Can you imagine turning down ET?
00:26:07
No.
00:26:09
I know, right?
00:26:10
Because some people didn't do ET and did do this.
00:26:14
Also.
00:26:16
Yeah.
00:26:17
I could imagine...
00:26:19
Like if Spielberg was like, hey, I got these two movies which which you want to work on, I might pick the horror movie.
00:26:25
Yeah, that's unsurprising though.
00:26:28
Yeah, it's just more my vibe.
00:26:31
But I also don't think, like, being in this over E.T., yeah, probably E.T.' a little bit more recognized and well known, but like, this is still a very iconic movie, so I feel
00:26:44
like that was a no-lose situation, no matter what you choose, you were kind of set.
00:26:50
Yeah.
00:26:51
Heather O'Rourke got the part of Carol Anne and she was chosen for the film while she was eating lunch with her mother and Spielberg basically just saw her, came up to her was
00:27:04
like, hey, I want you to be in my movie.
00:27:06
And then she did a test screening, which she completely failed because she kept laughing through it.
00:27:11
And Spielberg was like, okay, maybe she's little too young and she can't do this.
00:27:17
So.
00:27:18
he told her to get a scary book and come back and then in her second audition he asked her to scream and she just started like screaming and screaming and apparently she screamed so
00:27:29
much she started crying and then she got the audition.
00:27:32
I know I'm like that's kind of sad but yeah she got the part though.
00:27:40
Stephen King was approached to write the screenplay at one point.
00:27:46
he was.
00:27:47
Yeah, it would have been his first time writing directly for the screen as opposed to writing a book first and then that being adapted.
00:27:56
oh But they couldn't agree to terms.
00:28:02
It was just weird, because elsewhere I read that it was a scheduling conflict.
00:28:05
So I'm like, what is the truth?
00:28:08
Maybe both, though.
00:28:09
The terms are you need to be here this day to this day.
00:28:11
Yeah.
00:28:14
a good point.
00:28:16
I do have those occasionally.
00:28:19
Not often.
00:28:20
every once in a while.
00:28:22
Yeah.
00:28:24
Also, Susan Sarandon was considered for the role of Diane Freeling, the mom, but turned it down.
00:28:32
Sad for her.
00:28:34
Shirley MacLaine was also offered and turned it down.
00:28:36
Yeah, she said she objected to the terrorization of children.
00:28:44
Well, yeah, they do do that There do be a lot of children being terrorized
00:28:50
Yeah.
00:28:52
Shall we talk about the curse?
00:28:54
If we have to.
00:28:56
You don't believe in curses, but the evidence is against you.
00:29:01
No, it's not.
00:29:03
This is the same argument we had during our episode of The Omen.
00:29:08
Horror movies just take advantage of real life, sad situations, and it's despicable.
00:29:18
Well, real life sad situations don't happen after you make a comedy film.
00:29:23
Yes they do, they just don't put them in the IMDB fun facts because it's not as interesting.
00:29:28
Well anyway, a bunch of people died.
00:29:31
Bunch of people had supernatural experiences.
00:29:35
Where should we start?
00:29:37
You take it away,
00:29:39
All right, Dominique Dunn who plays Dana.
00:29:45
the daughter.
00:29:46
Lots of D words.
00:29:49
This was the only opportunity she had for a theatrically released film because she was murdered four months after the film came out by her ex-boyfriend.
00:30:01
very sad.
00:30:03
her brother to this day acts.
00:30:07
You want me to keep going?
00:30:09
I'll do more.
00:30:10
okay.
00:30:11
Is that it?
00:30:12
That's it?
00:30:12
That's the curse?
00:30:13
There's a lot Lou Perryman who played Pugsley the construction worker that was always having banter with the family Was also murdered in real life, but not until 2009 So the
00:30:27
curse was a little delayed It works sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, and then Heather O'Rourke Died of cardiac arrest and septic shock
00:30:43
in 1988 at the age of 12 after some complications with a bowel obstruction.
00:30:49
um sort of
00:30:51
a premonitory fact perhaps is that Robbie has a poster in his room for Super Bowl XXII.
00:30:59
Is that 22?
00:31:01
Mm-hmm.
00:31:02
We'll say it is if it's not correct us in the comments, which wouldn't take place for another six years from the time of the film.
00:31:08
And Heather died the day after that Super Bowl.
00:31:13
which coincidentally also played in California.
00:31:17
Those are all the deaths.
00:31:19
Sad.
00:31:20
It's no glee curse, but still sad.
00:31:27
Tell them about the paranormal occurrences.
00:31:30
I deleted everything about the curse because I don't care.
00:31:35
Because it's just marketing, well not the deaths, the deaths are not marketing but I feel like that's just people taking advantage of like the horror movie.
00:31:43
Like nobody says Almost Famous was cursed because Chris Farley died after it.
00:31:46
You know what I mean?
00:31:46
Like it's just because it was a comedy movie.
00:31:48
So it doesn't happen because it's not scary.
00:31:53
I don't know, nobody looks into it because it's not a horror movie.
00:31:57
I'm sure people died.
00:31:59
30 years later like the guy in 2009
00:32:03
Glee isn't a horror movie.
00:32:06
Yeah, that's true.
00:32:07
But that's just because they were all very young.
00:32:10
I think that's just showbiz, but...
00:32:15
the supernatural occurrences then.
00:32:17
Yeah, the supernatural occurrence is I just don't, I don't believe in it and I just think they're just like, they're trying to sell a movie and it's much cooler to sell a haunted
00:32:26
house movie if you tell everybody that the house was haunted.
00:32:33
Yeah.
00:32:35
Exactly.
00:32:36
ah I also don't think marketing was as advanced as you think it was back then
00:32:41
I think it was.
00:32:44
Yeah.
00:32:46
We were so dumb in the 80s.
00:32:49
Who?
00:32:49
Who's we?
00:32:50
I wasn't alive.
00:32:52
We as a society and somehow we've just gotten dumber
00:32:58
Yeah, we had an uptick there and then we crashed right back down.
00:33:01
yeah, yeah.
00:33:03
Jo Beth Williams who played Diane the mom Says that she had a supernatural experience during filming whenever she would come home the pictures on her walls were always crooked
00:33:15
and Every time she fixed them they would just hang crooked again So she attributed that to the spirits very strange like that's just kind of how pictures work Sometimes they get
00:33:27
crooked and you have to fix them
00:33:28
a picture unevenly and it's pissing me off, so clearly my house is haunted.
00:33:32
Yeah, absolutely.
00:33:35
And then Zelda Rubenstein also had an experience when a vision of her dog saying goodbye to her.
00:33:43
She had this vision of her dog saying bye.
00:33:45
And then hours later, her mom called and said her dog died, which is exactly what happened to me with my grandpa.
00:33:52
So you're laughing.
00:33:53
But that happened to me.
00:33:54
uh
00:33:55
but seeing your loved one saying goodbye is that's, I'm sad that that happened for you, but seeing your dog say goodbye is fucking hilarious.
00:34:06
Was it talking?
00:34:07
Like I need to know the details.
00:34:08
Did it wave?
00:34:10
Did it just like walk away?
00:34:11
How did it say goodbye?
00:34:13
You know, that's what I need.
00:34:14
I need details.
00:34:15
Yeah, thank you.
00:34:18
You should ask Zelda Rubinstein.
00:34:22
She's dead.
00:34:24
Yeah.
00:34:25
Maybe she'll visit me in a dream and tell me.
00:34:28
Wouldn't that be great?
00:34:30
There you go.
00:34:32
Do you have more hauntings or was that?
00:34:34
That's it, okay.
00:34:36
for you?
00:34:38
for this segment or like for me to become a believer.
00:34:43
either.
00:34:45
Definitely enough for the segment, not enough for me to become a believer.
00:34:49
Yeah, sorry.
00:34:51
Maybe the next haunted house movie will get me, but...
00:34:54
Yeah.
00:34:55
Yeah.
00:34:57
Couple of cute, I have two fun facts that both have to do with Spielberg helping people through scenes, which I thought were kind of cute.
00:35:07
the scene where Heather O'Rourke had to hold the headboard and the wind machine is like blowing the toys in the closet behind her.
00:35:14
She was so scared and like freaking out during that part, she started crying.
00:35:19
And so Spielberg had to like stop everything and kind of just like took her in his arms and said that she wasn't gonna have to do it again.
00:35:25
So I believe what we see is the only thing that they shot for that.
00:35:29
And then JoBeth Williams was kind of nervous about doing the swimming pool scene because of all the electrical equipment that's like positioned around the pool.
00:35:40
And she's like, obviously, like if any of that falls in.
00:35:43
I'm fucked.
00:35:44
So Spielberg, yeah, he like got in the pool when they shot the scene so that he's like, hey, if anything falls, like they're killing Steven Spielberg too, so...
00:35:58
little bit of...
00:35:59
Maybe just not having to do it alone would be helpful.
00:36:02
Yeah.
00:36:04
Another scene that he got his hands dirty in.
00:36:06
uh The hands that are pulling the flesh of the investigators face off in the bathroom mirror were Steven's.
00:36:15
Wow!
00:36:18
That's director behavior.
00:36:19
I'm just saying.
00:36:20
It's not it's not producer behavior, yeah.
00:36:25
I agree, I feel like he probably did overstep.
00:36:29
But it's just interesting that like, it didn't seem like Hooper minded.
00:36:33
So, that's the part that I think is weird.
00:36:36
Do I think Spielberg probably did much more than a producer does?
00:36:42
Absolutely.
00:36:44
Do I think it was as big of a deal as people made it out to be?
00:36:47
Probably not, since neither of them seemed to care.
00:36:50
Uh-huh.
00:36:52
The clown puppet.
00:36:54
I think it used to be on display in Planet Hollywood and Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, but as of 2020, Zach Baggins owns it and it's now in his museum in Las Vegas.
00:37:04
So shout out Zach Baggins.
00:37:08
I'm pretty sure it's Bagans.
00:37:10
Baggins?
00:37:12
P.
00:37:12
Shore.
00:37:14
P.
00:37:14
Shoreman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney.
00:37:18
Damn.
00:37:19
Well, Zach, let us know how to say your name, because I've been saying it back in my entire life.
00:37:26
Well, he says it in the intro to Ghost Adventures.
00:37:30
Yeah.
00:37:32
That's my second favorite fun fact about this film.
00:37:34
Do you want to know my first?
00:37:37
Heather O'Rourke kept the pet goldfish that Carol Ann has in the film.
00:37:43
She did.
00:37:45
Very cute.
00:37:47
going to make a movie, come out with a pet goldfish.
00:37:50
It's the dream.
00:37:52
Our prom was under the sea themed and they bought goldfish as centerpieces for all of the tables.
00:37:58
So a lot of people got to go home with goldfish that day too.
00:38:04
I didn't go to prom.
00:38:06
I shouldn't have.
00:38:08
You know what's funny is that I didn't go, so many people were like, oh, you know, in 15, 20 years, you're going to regret not going.
00:38:18
I've never regretted it, but almost everybody I know who went to prom regrets going to prom.
00:38:23
So.
00:38:25
So fair.
00:38:25
Yeah.
00:38:29
I liked some of the fun facts for how they did some of the special effects, ah because they didn't really feel like fun facts to me.
00:38:36
It was like, yeah, of course.
00:38:38
Of course they just used a wire to pull the chair across the room.
00:38:41
that's...
00:38:45
It's like, how did they get the stake to move?
00:38:47
It was just wire.
00:38:48
They just used wire.
00:38:49
Same way they did the chair.
00:38:51
I thought that was very funny that people felt that that was like, you'll never believe how they did this.
00:38:58
But one interesting kind of fun fact, which again, you kind of figure it's how they did it, but the timeframe that they had was impressive.
00:39:05
The shot of all the chairs that positioned themselves in like the balancing act on the table, that was all done in one take and they basically had the chairs already like clued
00:39:16
together in that formation.
00:39:18
And basically as the camera panned along with JoBeth Williams,
00:39:23
the crew just had to very, very quickly move all of the chairs that were already there and then set that there and they only had seven seconds to get that done.
00:39:31
So kind of a tight little panning time frame to do it, but I think that's fun.
00:39:39
Yeah, I like that one.
00:39:40
Super cute.
00:39:41
Mm-hmm.
00:39:43
Another effects more of a snafu than a fun fact.
00:39:47
When Robbie's being strangled, the clown's arms were actually very tight around his neck and he was actually being choked.
00:39:57
He screamed that he couldn't breathe and everybody just thought that he was ad libbing because he was supposed to be not able to breathe.
00:40:07
Yeah.
00:40:09
But supposedly Steven Spielberg saw that the actors face was turning purple on the video monitor So he ran over and removed the clown off of him Yeah, and The actor still to this
00:40:23
day has Maintained that he probably would have died if Spielberg had not saved him
00:40:30
feel like when he passed out, they would have noticed.
00:40:34
Sometimes you pass out and it's just too late.
00:40:36
The damage has been done.
00:40:40
That's true.
00:40:41
Gotta have a safe word on sets.
00:40:44
You gotta start shouting some weird shit, turn the camera off, you know?
00:40:47
That's what you're gonna shout.
00:40:48
And they know you're telling the truth.
00:40:50
Yeah, yep.
00:40:52
One of my dumbest fun facts about this movie is that...
00:40:56
When Diane is explaining to Stephen the feeling you get when the spirit pulls you across the floor, the scene kind of jumps mid-sentence to Diane and Stephen on their neighbor's
00:41:05
doorstep.
00:41:06
And originally, the line was that Stephen said something about hating Pizza Hut, and so they just cut it out because Pizza Hut took offense to that, so they didn't leave that in.
00:41:18
That's crazy.
00:41:21
Never eating a pizza hat again.
00:41:23
Yeah, how dare they.
00:41:24
Pizza's ass.
00:41:27
No one out pizzas the hut.
00:41:29
Almost every pizza out pizzas the hut.
00:41:31
Yeah, it's a low bar.
00:41:33
It's so low.
00:41:35
Their cheese tastes like plaster.
00:41:36
It's all a cheese issue.
00:41:38
I've thought about this for a long...
00:41:39
Well, no, the crust is not good either.
00:41:42
It's half air and half grease.
00:41:45
Breadsticks?
00:41:47
That's where you shine.
00:41:48
Everything else?
00:41:49
Ass.
00:41:51
We're a Domino's family
00:41:53
Mm.
00:41:55
Can't beat the $6.99 deal.
00:41:58
You really can't.
00:42:00
And they have good dessert.
00:42:01
I like their balls.
00:42:04
Their cinnamon sugar balls.
00:42:07
Who doesn't love some good balls?
00:42:10
Well, you have any other fun facts about the original before we take five minutes to talk about the remake?
00:42:18
We're just gonna bulldoze right on through.
00:42:21
We're going to give it proportionally as many fun facts as it is historically relevant.
00:42:26
Yeah, we're gonna give it exactly what it deserves.
00:42:30
None for me.
00:42:30
How about you?
00:42:32
Nope, I'm good to move on.
00:42:35
All right, give us a summary.
00:42:37
Alrighty.
00:42:38
The 2015 remake, basically the exact same plot.
00:42:42
A family whose suburban home is haunted by evil forces must come together to rescue their youngest daughter after the apparitions take her captive.
00:42:49
They didn't take a lot of liberties with this.
00:42:52
It's directed by Gil Keenan.
00:42:53
The screenplay is by David Lindsay O'Bear.
00:42:56
It's based on, obviously, the original Poltergeist.
00:42:59
It stars Sam Rockwell and Rosemary DeWitt.
00:43:02
It had a budget of $35 million.
00:43:04
It made about $95.4 million at the box office.
00:43:08
It currently has a 4.9 out of 10 on IMDB, a 2.1 out of 5 on Letterboxx, a 29 % critics, and a 22 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:43:20
Yikes.
00:43:22
abysmal.
00:43:24
Yeah, it was painful to watch.
00:43:27
Yeah.
00:43:27
honestly Compared to the other I feel like the other one really sort of pushed the boundaries of what was Technically possible at the time
00:43:38
Which, maybe that doesn't land so much now, but the 2015 version just like didn't try anything, you know?
00:43:46
Yeah, it didn't improve on anything and it didn't do anything different enough for it to be interesting.
00:43:54
Which I feel like are kind of the two components of when a remake's good.
00:43:59
It either has to improve on something or take it in a new direction and it didn't do either of those things.
00:44:08
Yeah, I wanted it to have like the tone of arrival and like the editing and like the vibes, you know what I mean?
00:44:16
Like dark and like lots of grief from the mom.
00:44:23
that would have been interesting.
00:44:24
Yeah, we didn't get that.
00:44:26
We got.
00:44:28
We got this.
00:44:30
Yeah, it's just kind of a...
00:44:32
Honestly, like it kind of felt like night swim, but it was a TV instead of a pool, you know
00:44:39
was that quality level?
00:44:41
Yeah, I can see that.
00:44:43
I agree.
00:44:44
I feel like the people in it, I've seen them give good performances, but like in this one, like I didn't find Sam Rockwell to be good in this, which is crazy because he's been
00:44:55
excellent in other films.
00:44:57
I don't remember anybody from anything else.
00:45:00
You don't know Sam Rockwell?
00:45:03
No.
00:45:05
Rosemary Dewitt's name sounds familiar, but I couldn't tell you what I've seen her in.
00:45:09
You don't know Nicholas Braun, aka the guy that glows from sky high?
00:45:14
How dare you?
00:45:17
I don't remember a damn thing about that movie.
00:45:20
Sky High?
00:45:21
Yeah, no.
00:45:23
Top 5 Best Superhero Movies of All Time.
00:45:26
I believe you.
00:45:27
Thank you.
00:45:28
I'm saying that un-ironically too.
00:45:30
I know I don't have a lot of credit because I loved Batman and Robin 1997, but I will also defend that with my life, here we are.
00:45:40
choice is everybody makes them.
00:45:44
Anyways, I've seen Nicholas Brown do Great Webbing.
00:45:47
He was in Succession.
00:45:49
He was in that and he was great in that.
00:45:51
I've seen Rosemary DeWitt in Things and She's Been Good.
00:45:54
I've seen Sam Rockwell be good in Things.
00:45:56
And in this movie, it was just like, oh God, did they just realize and just kind of phone it in?
00:46:02
Because I probably...
00:46:05
Yikes.
00:46:06
Yeah.
00:46:08
Rosemary DeWitt wanted to do this movie because she saw like how hyped people got at the conjuring.
00:46:15
which she went to because she's married to Ron Livingston.
00:46:17
Shout out, Iowa.
00:46:20
he's from Iowa?
00:46:21
Yeah, I feel like if people listen to the episode we did on the Conjuring, they probably remember me telling this story.
00:46:28
But he is from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and I was friends with his cousin's daughter.
00:46:35
Wow.
00:46:36
Yeah, yeah.
00:46:37
I went over to the Livingston house quite often and he was going to be in town for Christmas one year and my friend said you should come over because she knew at the time I
00:46:49
wanted to be an actor more than I wanted to breathe and she was like you should come over like Bron Livingston's gonna be there and so I told my mom hey I gotta go to the
00:46:59
Livingston's on Christmas and my mom said no we're going to grandma's and so I never got to meet him.
00:47:06
Big bummer.
00:47:08
I bet you hate that grandma.
00:47:10
Shout out to my grandma.
00:47:11
No, she's fine.
00:47:12
It wasn't her fault.
00:47:13
It was obviously my mom.
00:47:16
I'm just kidding.
00:47:18
No, I love my mom so much.
00:47:20
I also would not have let my 12-year-old daughter go to her friend's house on Christmas.
00:47:24
But who knows where we could be if Ron Livingston connected me to his agent at 12 years old.
00:47:35
Could have been telling a different story here.
00:47:37
Yeah, we would not be on the 150th episode of this podcast.
00:47:40
No.
00:47:42
I'd be doing the 2015 remake of Poltergeist.
00:47:48
Tom Cruise and Richard Armitage were considered for the role of Eric in the 2015 remake of Poltergeist, 1982 movie.
00:47:58
What?
00:48:00
I was just completing my thought.
00:48:03
Got it, got it.
00:48:04
I like confused my brain for a second.
00:48:07
Yeah, once again, the director said that the house that they filmed in was haunted.
00:48:11
It's crazy.
00:48:12
It's almost like it's a marketing ploy.
00:48:14
m
00:48:15
In 2015, yes, it is a marketing ploy.
00:48:19
In 1982, they weren't that smart yet.
00:48:22
I don't think you're giving enough credit.
00:48:25
They were pulling the whole Texas Chainsaws based on a true story.
00:48:28
They knew what they were doing.
00:48:29
That was almost 10 years prior.
00:48:33
Gil Keenan, the director, also stated that he hoped for a curse.
00:48:39
He said that he signed on to the film in hopes that something horrific would happen to him, according to an interview we did with Dread Central.
00:48:47
He hoped something horrific happened to him.
00:48:51
Yeah, he hopes something horrific would happen to him by signing on to create a poltergeist movie.
00:48:56
He wanted there to be a curse.
00:48:58
God.
00:48:58
Oh, the film.
00:49:01
So fair.
00:49:03
Best evidence for a curse I've seen.
00:49:07
That's just, I don't know, that strikes me as such a weird thing to say when the curse is mainly about people who died.
00:49:16
Yeah, not especially tactful, but...
00:49:19
Yeah, especially when one of them was a 12 year old.
00:49:22
Feels a little, little slimy.
00:49:26
Yeah.
00:49:27
Yeah.
00:49:29
Well, what are you going to do?
00:49:31
Kill it.
00:49:32
You
00:49:35
No, legally, we're not gonna do that.
00:49:38
I don't have a lot more for this, if I'm being honest.
00:49:41
It's just, you know, it's just, not a good movie.
00:49:44
It's not a lot of good fun facts.
00:49:45
But I did think it was interesting that they sold a lot of the, like, almost half of the costumes and props to fans.
00:49:54
And I think, like, one particular fan got most of them, and they live in England.
00:49:59
So, before it even came out, they sold, they sold everything.
00:50:03
Recouping their losses before they even started, they knew.
00:50:07
Yeah.
00:50:08
Yeah, with that one fan, they single-handedly gave out props to 90 % of their audience.
00:50:15
That's a sad thing though, is that it still made like $95 million.
00:50:19
It's a lot.
00:50:20
yeah, I think with that kind of film...
00:50:22
People don't like to just- Yeah, yeah.
00:50:26
it draws people in even if it's not good.
00:50:29
Look at the Conjuring movie.
00:50:31
No, I'm sorry.
00:50:31
I'm so sorry.
00:50:32
No, no, speak your truth.
00:50:35
You hate the conjuring.
00:50:37
I don't hate the first one.
00:50:40
I just don't like the first one.
00:50:42
The second one, fine movie.
00:50:46
The third one, I vehemently hate.
00:50:49
The fourth one.
00:50:51
I it like a week ago and I couldn't tell you a single thing that happens in it.
00:50:56
I think I blacked out.
00:50:58
The one that just came out?
00:51:01
It wasn't good.
00:51:02
I don't remember anything.
00:51:04
they have another chance at redemption despite saying that they were never gonna make another one.
00:51:09
Yeah, they're gonna keep making those until they stop making money and they will never stop making money.
00:51:15
I have a few more fun facts.
00:51:19
Here's another one about the curse.
00:51:20
uh In the 82 version, the brother's name is Robbie, but in this version, they named the brother Griffin.
00:51:29
And some people think that's an homage to Dominique Dunn, who played the eldest sister and then was killed.
00:51:34
em Her brother's name is Griffin.
00:51:38
He's also an actor best known from an American werewolf in London.
00:51:44
Nice.
00:51:45
Oh, my favorite fun fact about this film, which I'm surprised you didn't say,
00:51:50
This is Gil Keenan's second movie about a house that is haunted.
00:51:54
His first being Monster House.
00:51:57
Crazy, because Monster House slaps.
00:52:01
He can write a haunted house movie, well, direct a haunted house movie.
00:52:04
I don't know if it had anything to do with writing it, but.
00:52:08
Well, and also I feel like directing an animated film and a live action film are like two different skill sets.
00:52:14
So it's not like totally surprising that that didn't translate over to live action.
00:52:19
Yeah, that's fair.
00:52:22
It's a girl house.
00:52:24
You
00:52:26
That I remember that trailer like I saw it for first time yesterday.
00:52:30
Yeah.
00:52:32
one...
00:52:33
one thing that you remember in everything.
00:52:36
uh
00:52:37
yep, it's the trailer for Monster House.
00:52:40
If anything's gonna stick, it should be that.
00:52:43
Yeah.
00:52:44
uh Last thing we'll talk about.
00:52:48
The squirrel.
00:52:50
The Squirrel.
00:52:51
Yeah, uh the original storyline for the squirrel was fucking crazy.
00:52:57
According to Mr.
00:52:59
Kinnon, it was more akin to a cheerleading pyramid of several squirrels.
00:53:08
His words, his words.
00:53:10
But he really wanted to work with a live squirrel and not use CGI to portray the squirrel.
00:53:18
So he rewrote and reworked the pieces of the squirrel was in so that it could be a live animal that he worked with.
00:53:26
And then they had to change film industry rules in Canada.
00:53:33
to allow for a squirrel from the United States to enter the country because all of the best squirrels used for acting are from the United States.
00:53:44
first ever squirrel visa.
00:53:46
That's crazy.
00:53:47
That's a really good fun fact.
00:53:50
Thank you.
00:53:51
Yeah, I thought that was great.
00:53:52
Mm-hmm.
00:53:54
But now it's time to rate them.
00:53:57
Hell yeah.
00:53:59
How are we doing this?
00:54:01
All at once?
00:54:02
Back and forth?
00:54:04
I think all for the OG, all for the remake.
00:54:07
Love it, let's do it.
00:54:10
How scary did you think Poltergeist 1982 was?
00:54:14
I give it a .5 out of 5.
00:54:17
Mm-hmm
00:54:18
Yeah, supernatural stuff again doesn't really scare me and also it's a little bit dated.
00:54:24
Still great, but a little bit dated, you know?
00:54:26
So, it doesn't really hit for me.
00:54:29
What about you?
00:54:31
Sure, I gave it a 1 for children in peril.
00:54:34
Of course, yeah.
00:54:35
feels weird to ask after that sentence, but how sexy did you think it was?
00:54:40
Not at all.
00:54:41
I gave it a 0.5 out of 5.
00:54:44
Yeah, there was just nothing sexy about it.
00:54:50
I agree, I also gave it a .5.
00:54:53
Figured as much How fucked up did you think it was?
00:54:59
I gave it a one out of five just for the children in peril.
00:55:03
And I think, I don't think we talked about this, but that's because every other thing ever has talked about it, but I'm pretty sure they use real skeletons for the pool scene
00:55:12
because it was cheaper.
00:55:13
And so like that's a little bit, you know, fucked up.
00:55:17
But I think that's a true fact.
00:55:19
Maybe I just fucking made that up.
00:55:20
That might be a fake fact, but I'm almost positive that that's true.
00:55:24
I'm pretty sure that's true, but it's just not listed anywhere anymore because everybody talks about it.
00:55:29
That's crazy.
00:55:31
Yeah.
00:55:32
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:55:34
I only gave it a .5 because I didn't think it was at all and I put the children in peril under the scary category.
00:55:42
that's valid.
00:55:44
Yeah.
00:55:45
Overall, what did you think of the original Poltergeist?
00:55:50
It's not great.
00:55:52
It didn't age well in terms of digital effects.
00:55:56
And the story has since been overused, but credit needs to be given where it's due.
00:56:04
This was the kind of first of its kind.
00:56:06
They really went all out with the digital effects in an age where digital effects were really hard to pull off.
00:56:12
It has significant historical and cultural value.
00:56:16
And it is Steven Spielberg.
00:56:18
I think that counts for something.
00:56:19
I do really like his movies.
00:56:21
ah Even if he didn't work with John Williams for this one, that's disappointing.
00:56:25
I was really looking forward to that ah I gave it a 3.5
00:56:31
We're too in sync, Katie.
00:56:32
We're too aligned these days.
00:56:35
We gotta have a movie that we fight about again.
00:56:37
I need to feel alive.
00:56:41
I also gave this a 3.5.
00:56:43
Yeah, it's one of the classics.
00:56:44
I'm not gonna not give it its due for what it did for the genre and for what it did for film overall.
00:56:50
think the digital effects, even though they don't really hold up in today's standard, they are still fun to see.
00:57:01
And yeah, it's a good movie.
00:57:04
It's not my favorite movie.
00:57:06
It's a 3.5.
00:57:08
Yeah, fair.
00:57:11
Alright, let's get to the good things though.
00:57:15
That solid, solid remake.
00:57:18
Should we switch it up?
00:57:20
Yeah, do it.
00:57:21
Hit me.
00:57:21
scary did you think it was, Katie?
00:57:24
gave this one a 1.5 for Children in Peril and it did have some jump scares that got me.
00:57:33
Perhaps I was just a tad too jumpy watching this one because I think that they were all pretty predictable and I just didn't predict them.
00:57:43
But I gave it a 1.5.
00:57:45
How about you?
00:57:46
I give it a .5 as well.
00:57:49
It didn't really scare me, but you know.
00:57:53
I've been around the block a few times.
00:57:56
I can see those jump scares coming a mile away.
00:58:01
Give it 150 more episodes and you'll be right there with me.
00:58:04
I I feel like I'm pretty good at it.
00:58:06
I just let my guard down today.
00:58:09
You know what?
00:58:10
I like it.
00:58:11
I want to learn how to do that more.
00:58:13
Because I think it's always more fun when you, you know, go into something and let yourself be scared.
00:58:20
I think now it's so it's just like reflex to not allow it to happen and to overthink and be like, okay, now this is where I'd put a jump scare.
00:58:29
It's always so much more fun when you just let yourself be in the moment, be a little scared.
00:58:34
Yeah, beautiful.
00:58:37
2026 resolution.
00:58:39
Let myself be scared.
00:58:41
You can do it.
00:58:42
Thank you.
00:58:44
How sexy do you think it was?
00:58:46
0.5.
00:58:49
It just wasn't.
00:58:52
What about you?
00:58:53
I give it a one for tree hands.
00:58:58
how could I forget?
00:58:59
Yeah.
00:59:00
Great.
00:59:02
Those did it for you?
00:59:05
Yeah, why wouldn't they?
00:59:07
It's like.
00:59:09
my tree beard fantasies a little bit.
00:59:15
You know.
00:59:15
Little Lord of the Rings reference.
00:59:19
Yeah, I know all about the water drinks.
00:59:22
Yeah.
00:59:24
The Lords and the Rings.
00:59:26
All of it.
00:59:28
and the kings and the towers and the fellowships.
00:59:33
Mm-hmm.
00:59:35
Yeah, I know you do.
00:59:37
Yep.
00:59:38
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:59:41
I gave it a .5.
00:59:43
This is a PG-13 movie, so not a lot of room for R-rated things to happen.
00:59:52
It was sort of on the precipice of being fucked up, especially the drill bit scene.
00:59:58
But nothing pushed it over that .5.
01:00:01
How about you?
01:00:02
I agree.
01:00:03
Yeah, nothing too crazy happening here.
01:00:06
Run of the mill.
01:00:09
Well the real question is, what did you think overall?
01:00:14
Yes, overall, overall this is a bad remake.
01:00:18
It didn't add anything to the universe, to the original.
01:00:25
to film.
01:00:28
I gave it a 1.5.
01:00:30
I think it's a pretty bad movie.
01:00:32
It could probably be a 2, but that'd being generous.
01:00:35
And I was in a bad mood, so I rated it a 1.5.
01:00:40
What about you?
01:00:41
Wow, I see I would watch this again like a cozy little like romantic You know evening in perhaps I Didn't like hate it
01:00:55
Yeah, I don't like it.
01:00:57
I did not love it.
01:00:58
I did not even like it.
01:01:00
But I didn't hate it.
01:01:03
I just didn't think it was necessary, especially with the tone they gave it.
01:01:07
Had it been more of a like 2020s horror film tone, I think it could have been better.
01:01:12
Maybe there's an opportunity to try one more time in a couple years.
01:01:15
em I gave it a two.
01:01:19
okay, you acted like you were gonna be all high and mighty.
01:01:22
Half a point,
01:01:23
No, yet, no.
01:01:26
Just a two.
01:01:27
Yeah, and that's valid.
01:01:30
I kept going back and forth between a 1.5 and a 2, but then I just thought, no.
01:01:36
Yeah.
01:01:36
that's where I landed.
01:01:38
Yeah.
01:01:39
Out for blood today, are we?
01:01:41
Yeah.
01:01:42
All right.
01:01:44
Well, if there was a movie that deserved it, would be that one.
01:01:47
It's just not like what what are we doing, you know?
01:01:51
Yes, it would necessary.
01:01:53
Yeah.
01:01:55
Anyways, the real question is, would you survive?
01:01:58
Yeah, I think for both films there isn't a lot of adult peril.
01:02:05
I am an adult.
01:02:08
So for that reason alone, I think I'm safe.
01:02:12
Yeah.
01:02:13
Thank you.
01:02:14
How about you?
01:02:15
Yeah, no one dies.
01:02:18
except the bird.
01:02:19
Yep, and I'm not a bird, so.
01:02:24
I I live.
01:02:26
Yeah, we're great.
01:02:29
Easy.
01:02:29
Need more PG-13 movies to really up our survival scores.
01:02:33
It's the haunted house movies.
01:02:35
Nobody ever dies in the haunted house movies.
01:02:37
Conjuring, dies either.
01:02:39
Amityville, say I'll get out.
01:02:42
How boring.
01:02:43
I know.
01:02:45
And that's why I say, me v ghosts, I win every time.
01:02:49
Collective kill count of zero?
01:02:51
Give me a break.
01:02:52
Why would I be scared of a ghost?
01:02:54
Get out of here.
01:02:56
So fair.
01:02:57
Thank you.
01:02:59
All right.
01:03:00
We have a two week break, but when we come back, we're going to be talking about dog soldiers.
01:03:06
Do you want to tell us what it's about, Katie?
01:03:08
Yeah, I know what this one's about.
01:03:11
You do.
01:03:11
You have the general premise.
01:03:14
I do.
01:03:15
I thought you did.
01:03:16
Do you not?
01:03:17
Maybe you don't.
01:03:19
Okay.
01:03:21
I know it's wereholfs.
01:03:23
ah And I think that they are discovered by the United States government.
01:03:33
And then leveraged by said corrupt government as soldiers.
01:03:41
in the war in Afghanistan.
01:03:45
specifically and I think personally that uh George W Bush is featured in the film
01:03:55
Because it's his war, he started that.
01:03:58
I think.
01:04:00
With 9-11.
01:04:02
Got it.
01:04:04
Yeah, and we get to learn about some of the dog soldiers, two of them.
01:04:10
Two of them.
01:04:11
It focuses on two.
01:04:13
There's more of them.
01:04:15
Yeah.
01:04:16
ah But like we get to learn about two of them and one of the two dies the other one gets Retired with honors and he gets to live his life as a werewolf in his home with his wife
01:04:31
It's nice.
01:04:31
Yeah.
01:04:35
Not at all.
01:04:37
Werewolves?
01:04:39
But that's given with dog in the title, I think.
01:04:43
Um, nope.
01:04:45
But it does take place in 2002, so kind of around the right time.
01:04:51
yeah, 9-11 did just happen.
01:04:53
Yep, but not American.
01:04:55
This is actually a British film.
01:04:57
Oh, yeah, they don't care about that.
01:05:00
No, and it's, we have actually mentioned this film in our episode about the descent because it's filmed by the same man, Neil Marshall.
01:05:11
And he did the descent because he did this movie, which was a primarily male ensemble and he wanted to do a primarily female ensemble, which is why he did the descent.
01:05:24
Yeah.
01:05:26
Yeah, definitely werewolves.
01:05:28
Definitely some soldiers.
01:05:29
Watch a bunch of running around pretending to be dogs.
01:05:38
Yup.
01:05:41
Yeah.
01:05:41
Okay, I can't wait for you to see it.
01:05:45
I'm excited.
01:05:46
It's about time we did a werewolf movie.
01:05:49
Yeah, it's been a while.
01:05:51
What was the last one?
01:05:52
one with Amy Adams?
01:05:55
my god, I forgot about NightBitch.
01:05:58
Another clunker with the knight in it.
01:06:00
That's the real curse.
01:06:01
Don't name your film with the word night in it.
01:06:04
now I have to think of all the movies I've ever seen with Nigh in it.
01:06:07
No, no, I can think of a good one.
01:06:10
I'll put it on our list.
01:06:11
What is it?
01:06:12
Tell me and I'll forget.
01:06:14
it's called the Night House and I did like it.
01:06:17
But you'll forget about that by the time we get there.
01:06:20
I didn't even hear you.
01:06:21
Great.
01:06:25
Alright, cool.
01:06:26
Happy 150th anniversary.
01:06:28
Or episode.
01:06:33
Not anniversary.
01:06:34
That's...
01:06:37
Damn.
01:06:37
150th episode complete.
01:06:39
We did it.
01:06:41
Thank you guys so much for listening.
01:06:43
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01:06:52
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01:06:59
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01:07:02
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01:07:04
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01:07:05
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01:07:07
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01:07:14
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01:07:20
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