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Horror News:
👻 Guillermo del Toro to Possibly Remake Phantom of the Opera:
👻 Jane Schoenbrun to Adapt Black Hole into Netflix Series:
https://www.joblo.com/black-hole-netflix/
👻 Oz Perkins Says He Has No Interest in Ryan Murphy’s ‘Monster’:
https://people.com/anthony-perkins-son-slams-ryan-murphy-monster-ed-gein-show-11836425
👻 Sarah Michelle Gellar Gives Buffy Reboot Update:
https://www.joblo.com/gellar-new-sunnydale/
👻 Stranger Things Finale Getting a Theatrical Release:
November Horror Movies:
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/browse/movies_coming_soon/genres:horror
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Hello.
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Hello, welcome to Killer Cuties Podcast.
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and happy Tuesday.
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No, I was gonna leave that one out.
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Oh, god.
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No, I'm kidding.
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Can you imagine?
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just like, predicting that Tuesday is going to be bad, so I'm not going to say happy Tuesday.
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it's only Thursday, but we just know.
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I can just feel it in my bones that Tuesday's gonna just suck.
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No, I'm kidding, it's great, because we're here and you're here, hopefully listening.
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Hi, happy Tuesday!
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Yes.
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Happy Tuesday.
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We're here today to talk about scary stories to tell in the dark.
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We are.
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but we've got a lot to talk about first.
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Yeah.
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I have some new movies for November and then we have some news.
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New news.
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Just regular news.
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Yeah, just regular news.
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But I have new movies for November.
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So I'm going to start with that because there's only three.
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That's all I could find.
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There might be like direct to streaming ones.
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And there's a couple like Running Man and the new Predators movie, but those weren't labeled as horror anywhere.
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They were like action or sci-fi.
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like, I didn't count them.
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Sorry.
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But those are also coming out if you want to go see them.
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For True Blue Horror movies in November starting on
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November 7th, we have the Beldam, a struggling new mother fights a generations old presence lurking within her family home, threatening her safety, her sanity and the life
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of her infant child.
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that sounds like the Babadook.
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It kind of does, yeah.
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Just a mom and her kid fighting demons.
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A tale as old as time.
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Then on 1114, we have the new movie directed by Oz Perkins, Keeper.
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A wife becomes isolated in a secluded cabin and has to fend off an unspeakable evil.
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This one looked interesting.
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I saw the trailer and I was intrigued.
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Okay.
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But...
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me and Mr.
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Perkins have a hit or miss history together.
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So I don't know.
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I don't know how I'm gonna feel about it.
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We're gonna find out.
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Finally, on 1115, we have indecipherable.
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A boy gets trapped in his house at night all alone as he starts losing himself in his thoughts and starts to understand the possibility of not being alone.
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Okay.
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Pretty straightforward.
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Yeah, nothing too crazy in terms of basic loglines.
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But who's to say?
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Not us until we've seen them.
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Yeah, and maybe we will see them and talk about them.
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Yeah, stay tuned.
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Stay tuned to find out what November- you'll have to listen to November.
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Oops, gotcha.
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Let us know in the comments which one you'd like us to see and why it's keeper.
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just for science.
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Yeah.
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Okay, well, cool, exciting.
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At least we got some.
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There were so many in October.
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We're getting fed, but just some crumbs.
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Nothing hearty.
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Yeah.
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OK, well, it's also been a crazy week for Phantom of the Opera fans.
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For one, Playbill and Broadway World are going absolutely fucking crazy, posting full videos of cast rehearsals of the Phantom of the Opera tour, including an entire
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performance of Music of the Night by arguably the best fandom in the entire world, Isaiah Bailey.
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Shoributler.
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Since Gerard Butler.
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Correct.
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I love Gerard Butler as Fantas.
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Everybody can suck my dick.
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I liked him.
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We also got a stunning rendition of Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again by Rachel Zegler.
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Yeah, and Andrew Lloyd Webber was just sort of like singing her praises because she was also in, what was it?
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Evita.
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Anyway, so people think that they're soft launching her as Christine in an upcoming potential new movie adaptation, which has been like hemmed and hawed and supposedly
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there's some sort of animation happening or like anime or anyway.
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Then now Guillermo del Toro has come out and said that he wants to direct a remake of the original and
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The French adaptation of the original finished principal photography all in the last couple of weeks.
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There's just like, yeah, there's just so much happening in the world of Phantom.
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But like TLDR, probably the most exciting piece is maybe Rachel Ziegler is going to be Christine.
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She'd be really good.
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That girl could
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she could sing the entire script of the B-movie and it would be the best thing I've ever heard.
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She's got herself a fucking voice, that's for sure.
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Yeah, and she's she's very like people like Emmy Rossum because she was more of like a subdued voice.
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But I grew up with Sarah Brightman, who's really strong, kind of like grainy voice, which is very much what Rachel Ziegler is.
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She just has a very strong voice.
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So it just feels more right, you know.
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Yeah, I feel like it would be a different vibe than the other movie, which I think is a good thing.
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Because you're never going to...
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Yeah, I...
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Yeah.
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It's like when they redid The Dark Knight and they were like, well, not redid, but they did The Dark Knight and they were like, oh, Heath Ledger can't do Jack Nicholson's Joker,
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right?
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He's got to do something completely different.
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So I feel like that's kind of the vibe.
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You got to make it your own.
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And again.
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I'll listen to that girl sing anything she wants.
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She's singing, I'm listening.
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Yeah, she really grew on me.
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There was a point in time where I was not her biggest fan, but like, honestly, she's perfect.
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I like her.
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I've always liked her.
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People hating her kinda made me like her more.
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Yeah, so fair, so fair.
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Yeah, she's just like really good at what she does.
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Yeah.
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Alright, first news from me.
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Black Hole is a 12 issue comic book limited series written and illustrated by Charles Burns.
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It's film adaptation has been stuck in developmental hell since about 2006.
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Almost 20 years.
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That's crazy.
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It's been attached to numerous directors and writers, none have come to fruition.
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However, Netflix recently gained the rights after a bidding war and they have announced that they are teaming up with Jane Shunbrunn from I Saw the TV Glow fame to bring Black
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Hole to the screen as a TV series.
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So kind of exciting if you're a fan of the graphic novel or if you just like Jane Shunbrunn's work, which I fucking loved I Saw the TV Glow.
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So I'm excited.
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She's got a very cool vibe.
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A little summary of the comic is, There's an old myth that haunts the seemingly perfect small town of Roosevelt.
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If you have sex too young, you can track the bug, a virus that literally turns you into a monster from your worst nightmares.
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Absurd, right?
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That's what Chris always assumed until after one reckless night at the beginning of senior year, she finds herself infected.
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Now shall be cast out to the woods to live with the other infected, where a chilling new threat emerges, a serial killer who's hunting them one by one.
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It's not funny, it's just like the idea that like if you get sick, they're just like going to the woods now.
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Bye.
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That's crazy.
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it's giving Divergent.
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Oh, I was gonna say it's giving it follows.
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Oh yeah, of course.
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It follows me, Sybergen.
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Yeah, did divergent, did they get STDs in that?
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I missed that chapter.
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No, I don't know why it's getting that specifically.
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I think maybe because I just imagined Shailene Woodley as the main character and then.
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I don't know why.
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Yeah.
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That's interesting.
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All right.
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Okay, well, speaking of Oz Perkins, you've probably heard that Ryan Murphy started teasing of Monster released.
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That's his anthology True Crime series.
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ah
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it, but I did still hear about it.
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Yeah, well, this season is about Ed Gein.
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And Oscar Perkins has spoken out about it because of the glamorization of true crime and because he believes that necessary context is always missing in Hollywood adaptations of
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true crime.
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like, yeah, agree there.
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What's weird is that he didn't have anything to say about the fact that his dad is depicted in the show along with Toby Hooper and a bunch of other like horror.
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pioneers and like awfully Anthony Perkins general consensus of the show is that it is suggesting that Anthony Perkins keeping his sexuality a secret is somehow equal to the
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secrets that Ed Gein was keeping at that point in his life which as a reminder was serial murder.
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Huh?
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Yeah.
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So just like very, like one.
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terrible that that is what is happening and how that's being portrayed to the fact that Osgood Perkins took the time to say something about it, but not call that out was just
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like a weird vibe.
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I I could see him just like not even wanting to give it the dignity of like...
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Right, so don't say anything at all.
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but if he keeps getting asked about it, which you know that they're gonna keep hounding him on it.
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Wow, I mean I've said it once, I've said it a million times, Ryan Murphy needs to be stopped.
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Enough.
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I respected him through Glee.
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That's crazy!
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And a couple of American horror stories were good.
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I think he nailed three seasons of that show and then after that he should have never made another thing in his life.
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Yeah, no, meant a couple of literally like two.
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So yes.
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the third season.
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It's good.
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No, the first season and the third season are good.
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I didn't mind the second season.
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Thursdays and it's come in, right?
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Yeah.
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Anyways, gross.
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Yeah, weird, weird vibes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Well, more fun news, at least for me.
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Sarah Michelle Giller recently spoke with Variety and gave some insights into the new Buffy reboot.
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Nothing crazy, but I'm gonna talk about Buffy any chance I get, so here we go.
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Apparently the title is going to be Buffy the Vampire Slayer, New Sunnydale, and there will, yeah.
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and there will be Easter eggs for fans of the original.
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However, you will not have to have watched the original to understand what's going on.
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They're not doing like a direct one-for-one or anything like that.
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Their goal is to give something to the fans of the show, but also to kind of introduce the world to a new generation and in every generation, a slayer is born.
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Anyways, yeah, so they want people who haven't seen it to also like.
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be able to jump in and not have to watch seven seasons of the original to.
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Watch this.
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Nice, I love that.
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Yeah, Deadline also reported that the revival is gonna start a writers' room soon, so it's moving along.
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And it's still kind of unclear whether or not any other original Buffy member, like, cast members are gonna join.
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But it is considered likely.
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A lot of them have spoken out saying that they would like to join, so I feel like if they're willing and it works, why not, you know?
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Yeah, well, I mean, there's a couple that probably shouldn't.
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Xander?
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That's one.
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Who else?
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no, they've already established that he's not having anything to do with this.
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Yeah, my guess is that most people will be invited back, except for I can't see them inviting Nicholas Brendan back.
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Which is a shame, but.
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It's a shame for the three fans of Xander's character, but for the rest of us, no loss.
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No big loss there.
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We'll be fine.
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okay.
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Last news to round us out.
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Um, there was a lot of news today, so I'm just going to rapid fire some good horror news.
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Okay, the final ever episode of Stranger Things is officially coming to theaters.
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That's me shooting myself in the face.
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I'm so sick of hearing about stringent replacements.
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No, no, no, it's fine.
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I'm glad that it's ending.
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I just want it to be over so I can watch it all.
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Did you see like the whole, the creators of that show who came out and they were like, oh, we think there should be years and years in between TV shows and they should all be an
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hour and a half.
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And everybody's like, my guy, you just want to make movies.
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That's not a TV.
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That's not, you're describing movies.
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Just make movies.
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This literally just seals that because they talked so much about how blessed they were to work with Netflix and Netflix supported their dream of showing their show in theaters.
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Like that's a movie!
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You just wanna make- they just wanna make movies and I need them to understand that.
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Stop torturing the rest of us with your so-called TV show because that's not what it is.
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You just wanna make movies.
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Go make the movies.
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That's fine.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, this is supposed to be rapid fire.
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I'm so sorry, I had to go on a stranger things rant.
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That's okay.
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That's okay.
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A24 and Peacock's Friday the 13th series Crystal Lake has wrapped filming.
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And then the first gameplay teaser trailer for Paranormal Activity Threshold, the game by Darkstown Digital was just released.
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Yeah.
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But can I just say that the trailer feels exactly like
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a group of friends got together on FASMO, got drunk, and role-played a movie together.
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That actually sounds amazing.
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It doesn't look great.
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okay.
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But it could still be fun.
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It's the same graphics as Phasma.
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It's...
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terrible voice acting.
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no.
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But it could be fun, who's to say?
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us when it comes out and we play it.
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play it.
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We'll play it.
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Well, Love that.
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Love some rapid fire news.
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yeah, me too.
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There was just so much to talk about.
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I'm make sure I slipped it all in.
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Yeah, I love it when you slip it in.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, I mean.
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Hard one to segue out of.
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I'm gonna do it anyway though.
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Speaking of slipping things, nope.
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I'm sorry.
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Okay, moving on.
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We're gonna talk about scary stories to tell in the dark today.
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Little summary.
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Pennsylvania, 1968.
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Setting the scene.
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Actually IMDB is setting the scene, that's where I got this from.
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After playing a joke on a school bully, Stella and her friends decide to sneak into a haunted house that once belonged to the powerful Bellows family, unleashing dark forces
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that they will be unable to control.
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This is directed by André Øvredal The screenplay is by Dan and Kevin Hagamon.
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The story is by Guillermo del Toro, Patrick Melton and Marcus Dunstan.
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It's obviously based on Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz.
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It stars Zoe Coletti and Michael Garza.
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It had a budget of around 25 to 28 million.
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Three million difference.
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Something was lost in between there.
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I don't know what.
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It made almost 105 million at the box office, so you know, did pretty well, pretty well.
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It currently holds a 6.2 out of 10 on IMDb, a 2.8 out of five on Letterboxd, a 72 % audience score, and a 78 % critic score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Okay.
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reasonable.
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Yeah, It's a little spread.
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Yeah.
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Do I agree?
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Do you agree?
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We'll have to find out.
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Oh, can you imagine?
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But no, just give us a minute.
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We'll get there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll let you know how we felt about it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, did you did you mention that this was based on?
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A book, did you mention that part?
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OK, good, just making sure that, yeah.
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Excellent, I'm going to just take that fun fact out of here.
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No, no, you already did.
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Yeah, we can pretend I didn't.
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Yeah, we just can't stop talking about Guillermo del Toro.
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We can't.
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We love that guy.
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I guess so.
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my God.
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I had him up on my screen and Dylan comes in and looks at my screen.
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And he's like, I hate your Motorola.
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And I was like, name one of his films that you've watched.
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And he's like,
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I don't know.
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And I'm like, okay, so do you want to like roll that back?
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And he's like, no, I'm just going to Google it real quick.
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He was talking about Benicio del Toro.
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Yeah, those are two different men.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's like, well, at first he was like, he was
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he's acting and stuff too and I was like well has he?
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Has he?
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Are you sure about that?
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And then so then we finally figured out he's talking about the other guy.
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Deltora recently, think he was for the press tour of Frankenstein that he's on right now.
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But he ended one of them by just saying, fuck AI, which I think is great.
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Also, someone tweeted and they said, Giyomura Deltoro has the imagination and creativity of a woman who spends her time maladaptive daydreaming in her bedroom about meeting her
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soulmate in the most gothic situation imaginable.
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And that's why I love him so.
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And he responded and he said, I believe I do.
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So he agreed.
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Yeah, I just want to like.
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back to back all of his movies, you know?
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Yeah.
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Take them from both ends.
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Slip it in, the theme of the episode.
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Yeah.
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Back to back.
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ass to ass.
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Starting and ending, preferably, with Panzerarth.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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the new Frankenstein movie.
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I really want to see that.
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I do too, I think I might do another movie day on Saturday.
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I've been thinking about it.
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theater and do it.
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was like, are you how are you going to stream it?
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No, no, no, like do another, I don't know if I'll do four again, but I know that's out, Shelby Oaks is out, which I want to see.
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I think I want to speed run the book once again prior to partaking in the film.
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Frankenstein, yes, sorry.
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was like, there's no book for Shelby Oaks, you're good.
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You can go.
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You can go right now if you want.
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the camera, we're going.
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Yeah, Shelby Oaks is the one that's directed, or not directed, produced by Mike Flanagan though.
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Oh yeah, I do like him.
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And he found the guy.
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This is just about a different movie now.
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But I just saw the director was doing an interview about Shelby Oakes.
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And he said that he met Mike Flanagan because he made a YouTube video talking about Oculus, which is a Mike Flanagan movie, and how much he loved it.
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And Mike Flanagan saw it and reached out to him.
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And they just started chatting.
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And then eventually he was talking about his writing and stuff.
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And Mike Flanagan was like, I'd love to like...
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see some of your work if you're willing to.
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And he showed him the script for Shelby Oaks and like planning it was like, anyway, I can help, I want to help.
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Wow, I love that.
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I know!
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I was like, damn, he's out there watching YouTube videos about him!
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Yeah, I mean, we have created YouTube videos about Mike Flanagan and we also have films slash TV shows that I'm just saying, Mike.
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Mr.
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Mike, please watch our YouTube video and reach out to us.
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Yeah, that would be great.
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No, wait, before we go, em I there's a there's someone at my place of employment that is a huge horror fan, like always has their office decorated with horror movies and stuff and
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has not seen Haunting of Hill House.
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So I got to recommend it to them and they're keeping me updated.
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I can't wait.
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I can't wait.
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It's literally the best thing I've ever done is be able to recommend that to somebody who's a horror fan because they're going to lose their shit.
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Yeah.
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the rush.
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Yes.
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Yeah, I cannot wait.
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Imagine they hate it.
00:21:28
Then you know you don't fuck with them.
00:21:29
Yeah.
00:21:31
No.
00:21:33
anyone hating that show.
00:21:34
Ugh.
00:21:35
Gross.
00:21:36
Seriously.
00:21:38
Alright, scary stories.
00:21:40
We're back on track.
00:21:42
Yeah, you can't tell them any other time.
00:21:45
They have to be in the dark.
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has to be in the dark.
00:21:47
In April 2020, it was officially announced that a sequel for this movie was in development.
00:21:53
√òvredal is going to be returning to direct.
00:21:55
Coletti, Garza, Ganshorn, and Norris were all set to reprise their roles.
00:22:00
And the Hagamans were going to return as writers.
00:22:04
And del Toro as a producer.
00:22:07
COVID happened.
00:22:09
Writer's strike happened.
00:22:10
Lots of delays.
00:22:12
As of August 2023, I think that's the last time we've gotten an update about it.
00:22:16
But according to √òvredal, they were continuing to work on the project.
00:22:20
The story had been completed and the script was just in like revisions.
00:22:25
still been two years since then and we don't know anything else, but apparently they were still working on it.
00:22:31
Yeah, but the kids are like in their twenties now, so.
00:22:34
Yeah.
00:22:35
Gotta be like a time jump.
00:22:37
Well, but also COVID was happening by April 2020.
00:22:43
So.
00:22:44
I think it was just like that's when it got green lit.
00:22:47
And so obviously like they couldn't really start fully diving into it.
00:22:52
Everything was kind of shut down.
00:22:53
So
00:22:54
Well, shoot, darn.
00:22:56
Yeah.
00:22:58
goal the inspo so CBS films acquired the rights to the series in 2015
00:23:04
Mm-hmm.
00:23:06
Wait, this is confusing because what you just told me was that in 2020 the sequel was announced, but in 2020 also it was announced that Gamera Auditorial would co-write and
00:23:16
produce the first film.
00:23:19
in 2020.
00:23:20
Yeah, so which is it?
00:23:22
Well, this movie came out in 2019, so...
00:23:27
So he wasn't working on this movie in 2020.
00:23:31
Yeah, my my facts aren't straight.
00:23:33
But anyway, yeah, I guess so.
00:23:37
em Anyway, Del Toro decided to.
00:23:41
He was the one who framed the joint narrative where, you know, it's the kids telling the stories from the book and those stories are happening to them.
00:23:50
And he promised that he would not shy away from the horror of it all.
00:23:57
He did want to create a film for younger viewers.
00:24:00
And now it's described by several outlets as essential to fostering the next generation of horror fans.
00:24:09
That's specifically from a Hollywood Reporter.
00:24:11
em But it is critically acclaimed to be that that like the Gateway Horror movie.
00:24:17
Yeah.
00:24:19
Would you agree?
00:24:19
I mean, it's from children's book.
00:24:22
A children's book.
00:24:24
Yeah, I think it would be like a good gateway horror.
00:24:27
I think if I saw this as a kid, I'd probably be too scary for me, but I also was a little wimp, so.
00:24:33
I mean, I'm not showing this to my six year old.
00:24:37
No.
00:24:37
for sure.
00:24:38
I think the first horror movie I ever saw was like uh a, I think it was like direct to TV Wes Craven film.
00:24:48
it's not like looking back, it's not even a scary movie.
00:24:51
It's more of a thriller.
00:24:52
Nightmares, nightmares for weeks.
00:24:55
I'm trying to think of...
00:24:56
my husband was gonna kill me, Katie, like you have no idea.
00:25:00
my god.
00:25:04
I can't even think of the first like a horror movie that I watched as a kid.
00:25:09
No?
00:25:10
No, literally the first one I can think of, I was like probably 22 years old or maybe 20 years old, somewhere between 20 and 22.
00:25:16
And it was Silent Hill and it scared the fucking shit out of me.
00:25:20
That's so crazy.
00:25:21
a scary movie until then.
00:25:23
Never even like, sleepovers with your friends?
00:25:27
Wasn't allowed to have sleepovers with my friends.
00:25:29
Oh, not even at hangouts with your friends?
00:25:33
You didn't have friends or?
00:25:34
I'm kidding.
00:25:37
yeah.
00:25:39
Thanks, yeah.
00:25:40
don't, don't, I was kidding, it was supposed to be a joke.
00:25:43
Interesting.
00:25:44
Yeah, I watched The Ring at a very young age, I watched Saw at a young age.
00:25:49
You'll never know the irreparable damage of being in, what, fifth, sixth grade and watching Saw for the first time in a sleepover.
00:25:58
That's crazy.
00:26:00
It made me into the person I am today.
00:26:03
Which actually kind of explains a lot about who I am.
00:26:06
My kid loves spooky, scary stuff.
00:26:08
She's gonna, she's, she's gonna be that girl.
00:26:12
Definitely.
00:26:12
Like, hey, do wanna watch this scary movie?
00:26:15
Like a sleepover?
00:26:17
Explicitly after I told her no, just because I told her no.
00:26:20
Your daughter's pretty cool.
00:26:23
Well, in this one, it's obviously based on the book.
00:26:26
There's a lot.
00:26:27
It's like a collection of, I don't know who hasn't read Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark.
00:26:31
If you haven't, pick up a copy, My God.
00:26:34
But if you haven't, it's basically just a collection of short stories.
00:26:39
A lot of them are taken from prior stories or legends or, you know, campfire tales, kind of.
00:26:47
Yeah.
00:26:49
So some of the stories that you can see in the book, but they don't have their own segment in the movie, are the Cat's Paw, the Attic, and the Wendigo.
00:26:56
fun little nod to the stories in there without fully going into all of them.
00:27:01
Yeah, cute, cute, cute, cute, cute, cute.
00:27:04
This has really nothing to do with what you just said, but it's an interesting fun fact that I'm not quite sure is a fun fact, but I'd like your take on it.
00:27:16
In almost every frame of the film, the color orange and or yellow is visible.
00:27:22
It would be impossible for it to not be, right?
00:27:27
for yellow or orange to not be in a scene?
00:27:30
Yeah, like.
00:27:31
Why would that be impossible?
00:27:34
There's gotta be some orange or yellow in every scene.
00:27:39
Haven't you ever seen Twilight?
00:27:40
It's green all the way through.
00:27:41
Oh, it looks kind of grainy.
00:27:47
blue.
00:27:49
but like there's still yellow in it.
00:27:52
No, there's yellow and orange isn't in every frame of every movie ever.
00:27:58
Well then why is it if that's even more of a reason why is it a fun fact?
00:28:02
because they purposefully put those colors in every scene.
00:28:05
It was on purpose?
00:28:07
Well, you would think so.
00:28:09
I don't know.
00:28:09
That was just like a weird...
00:28:11
Like, just sitting right here I can see yellow and orange right now.
00:28:14
Anywhere I turn my head I can see yellow or orange.
00:28:17
Even up!
00:28:19
Even up.
00:28:19
Like, that's...
00:28:20
The light is casting yellow and orange.
00:28:23
Skin tones are often yellow or orange.
00:28:27
I feel like there's, I mean, I'm just thinking of like examples of color that we've seen in movies more recently.
00:28:34
Like we talked about it's what's inside.
00:28:35
There were full scenes that there was just red or just blue or just green.
00:28:41
You know what I mean?
00:28:42
I guess, or Suspiria.
00:28:45
Yeah.
00:28:46
don't know, just weird fact.
00:28:48
me of in Easy A, the director put oranges in like every scene and they were like, why'd you do that?
00:28:59
And he was like, I don't know, just thought, I just thought I should like put something in every scene.
00:29:04
You know, it's like a fun little like quirk.
00:29:08
I did not know that about EZ-A.
00:29:09
Yeah.
00:29:11
So maybe they did the same thing.
00:29:13
They were like, you know, it'd be fun.
00:29:15
Just throw a little bit of yellow and orange and everything.
00:29:17
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:29:18
Well, it did make me want to go back and watch it again, be like.
00:29:22
Wow, I really don't see any yellow or orange in this scene.
00:29:25
Yeah.
00:29:26
I'm sorry that that caused you such distress.
00:29:29
That's okay.
00:29:30
I've been thinking about it ever since I read that.
00:29:35
Is that even a fact?
00:29:36
Is it even fun?
00:29:38
feel like the IMDB fun facts of a lot of movies are filled with facts that I don't find fun.
00:29:43
Yeah, I deleted more than I took.
00:29:45
I'll tell you that much.
00:29:46
Yeah, well, you know.
00:29:48
More about the actual, like, stories that are taken from the book.
00:29:51
I'm just gonna go right back to the point I was talking about.
00:29:54
Some of the monsters seen in the film are from, like, different stories, or they, like, combined some of them.
00:30:01
The jangly man that comes to the jail that they're at is a mix of two stories called footsteps and then Mithai Doty Walker.
00:30:11
So like that's kind of like a mix of two stories from the original book.
00:30:17
And then the corpse who's looking for her toe is also from a story about a haunted house.
00:30:23
So like not like perfectly intertwined in it, but I feel like they just kind of try to like
00:30:28
weave in the stories and make them fit how they could, obviously.
00:30:33
Kind of fun.
00:30:34
The monsters that do have their own stories in the book.
00:30:38
The spiders, that's like a whole story.
00:30:41
The pale lady in the hospital and Harold, the scarecrow.
00:30:46
Yeah, yeah.
00:30:48
Jangle Man.
00:30:50
Mm-hmm.
00:30:53
That was all.
00:30:55
Just...
00:30:57
liked, disliked.
00:30:59
Just, he was in it.
00:31:01
no, I just I forgot I was gonna say I don't know where I was going with that
00:31:05
Was it maybe about the person who played the jangly man?
00:31:08
it can be, but no, I was gonna say something else and then I was gonna go into the fact.
00:31:13
shoot.
00:31:13
Well, it doesn't matter.
00:31:14
Anyway, uh the jangly man was played by a contortionist named Troy James.
00:31:22
Deltoro and √òvredal put together a team to design the creature.
00:31:28
uh Then they pieced that together into the final design that we see on screen.
00:31:33
but the director knew that it had to be played by Troy James.
00:31:39
And if you watch his America's Got Talent audition, he does exactly what he does in the movie in the audition.
00:31:49
Like the only CGI enhancements for his character were to his face.
00:31:54
Everything else he's doing, he's crawling, he's like bending under himself.
00:32:00
It's actually very cool to watch.
00:32:02
He's like, he like goes and like crab walks onto the table in front of Simon Cowell.
00:32:08
It's actually very entertaining.
00:32:10
Love that.
00:32:11
Yeah.
00:32:12
I really do like it when they get contortionists or just like movement actors to do monsters in movies.
00:32:21
Yeah, it and they did put a lot of emphasis in practical.
00:32:26
They did put a lot of emphasis in practical in this film, which is nice.
00:32:31
Practical, like people performing the actors or that monsters.
00:32:37
Yeah, which I do feel like is very del Toro.
00:32:41
We like just talked about that in Crimson Peak where they just use CGI to kind of enhance the actors, but he always wanted something physical there for the actors to interact with.
00:32:51
Yeah.
00:32:52
Kind of in that vein, the pale lady character was worn by Mark Steger, who's kind of like a veteran monster suit actor.
00:33:01
So another motion actor.
00:33:04
But then Spectral Motion is, I think the company who like did help, like helped make the suits and stuff.
00:33:12
And they basically just like broke off into teams and each had a character.
00:33:17
But I also think Mark Steger has, speaking of stranger things, I
00:33:21
I believe he was the Demogorgon.
00:33:23
So that's pretty cool.
00:33:25
Yeah, they said that the pale lady's eyes were kind of a problem because they're supposed to be too far apart.
00:33:32
But then it was like, how does this guy see out of the suit?
00:33:36
So they had to create like little peepholes so that he could see what he was doing.
00:33:41
Yeah, they also couldn't decide on what outfit she would be wearing, like logistically, like realistically, the pale lady, what would she wear?
00:33:51
That was difficult, which I, yeah, realistically.
00:33:55
So they went with, is it skin?
00:33:56
Is it nightgown?
00:33:58
Who's to say?
00:33:59
Who's to say?
00:34:01
Let me tell you what, I did not question whether or not it was skin until I read that font effect and then I was like, they were going for ambiguity.
00:34:08
Okay.
00:34:09
I just assumed she was nude.
00:34:11
well, when they like, when she does the little like death by osmosis thing, it looked a little like linen.
00:34:19
Yeah.
00:34:21
fair.
00:34:22
I guess I just chalked that up to like what was happening, that it's gonna look a little different.
00:34:29
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:31
Mark Staker was also Harold.
00:34:35
The creative team didn't want Harold to have human anatomy necessarily.
00:34:41
They wanted him to feel like he was compiled of wood and rope and wire and straw, which I do think Red really wants Green.
00:34:50
it is still a suit.
00:34:52
Mark is in it.
00:34:53
And despite them having some gaps in it, it is it's worn by Mark.
00:34:57
They constructed it onto his body so that when Mark moved, the pieces moved differently, which gave it that sort of disjointed feel that's seen in the final film.
00:35:09
Nice.
00:35:10
Yeah, I didn't like the way he moved.
00:35:12
I think that was the point though.
00:35:13
Yeah.
00:35:15
I think it was supposed to feel uncomfortable.
00:35:18
Yeah, it sure did.
00:35:20
And my my one of my few complaints about this film is that.
00:35:26
the monsters, the villains, were just on a different level than the things around them.
00:35:37
Like they were just, they were almost like they were from a different story or a different universe or something.
00:35:44
It just felt like here's a movie directed by someone else.
00:35:50
with monsters directed by Guillermo del Toro.
00:35:52
You know what mean?
00:35:53
I don't know.
00:35:54
okay.
00:35:55
Which-
00:35:56
that's fair.
00:35:56
Like, you didn't feel like they fit into the universe of the, like, arching narrative.
00:36:01
Okay.
00:36:04
I guess I...
00:36:06
Yeah.
00:36:08
I guess I just took that as like they're not supposed to be.
00:36:14
Like they are kind of being plucked from this other universe into this world.
00:36:19
Sure.
00:36:20
But yeah, I guess you'd still want like some sort of cohesion.
00:36:24
It's a fair complaint.
00:36:26
Yeah.
00:36:28
One for you.
00:36:29
you
00:36:31
Few complaints are a few fair complaints.
00:36:34
You're like, the rest of my complaints, not valid at all.
00:36:37
Yeah.
00:36:39
Did this feel...
00:36:40
Stephen King to you?
00:36:42
Uh, nope, can't say that it did.
00:36:45
This felt so Stephen King to me.
00:36:47
And it's weird because I've never felt that before.
00:36:49
And maybe it's just because I've read a lot of his books this year for the first time, but like...
00:36:53
small racist town on the northeast, period piece featuring a group of ragtag outsider kids, anti-war sentiments, it's got the magical negro trope which he loves to use so much,
00:37:06
like I was like, oh shit, like this feels like it could be in his universe.
00:37:12
slurs at every turn.
00:37:14
He loves a good slur.
00:37:16
If the villain doesn't say a slur, what's the point?
00:37:20
Honestly, fair.
00:37:21
Yeah, now that you've spelled it out, that is very reasonable.
00:37:26
I just don't.
00:37:27
at one point and I was like, wait, whoa, this feels like it could be an adaptation of one of his books.
00:37:34
Yeah, just don't I creature feature is not what I think of or like monster is not what I think of.
00:37:43
I think of more like psychological when I think of him.
00:37:48
You know?
00:37:49
I guess I think, yeah, I feel like he's got like paranormal stuff.
00:37:53
Like Pennywise is kind of a creature, it like transforms into these different scary things, so.
00:38:00
And that's not to say anything about like Alvin Schwartz, because I don't think, yes, it's like his mini stories, but like the overall story is not really his.
00:38:10
Yeah, no, the overarching concept was del Toro.
00:38:14
The like, kids in high school find a book kind of thing.
00:38:18
Yeah, he worked on the story of that.
00:38:21
I think that this, I feel like, and not like, I don't hate this movie at all, but I think like, if they were gonna adapt Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, I almost feel like it
00:38:33
would have been better as like a TV show, like a Goosebumps-esque type of thing.
00:38:37
Maybe a little bit more like, more horror than Goosebumps, but.
00:38:42
Yeah.
00:38:43
It's an anthology.
00:38:44
It should have been done as an anthology.
00:38:46
Like that's just...
00:38:48
I feel like its full potential would be that, but if you couldn't get that green lit, I see why they did what they did.
00:38:56
Yeah, it was a creative way to do it.
00:38:59
It was like the.
00:39:00
do movie form.
00:39:02
Just not, not, not perfect.
00:39:06
Shout out to our friend Steaks or Michelle from our 25th episode.
00:39:12
The house used for the Bellows house is the Fairbanks mansion located in the small town of Petrolia in Southern Ontario, Canada.
00:39:24
She's Canadian, that's why I shout her out specifically.
00:39:27
Shout out to Mike, Canadian listener.
00:39:29
If you're Canadian and you're listening to this right now, shout out.
00:39:37
Yeah.
00:39:38
Also sort of a fun like tie to the book and to how they did the overarching story is how every character's story is directly related to their own fears that is sort of
00:39:51
communicated earlier in the film.
00:39:54
like Tommy hates the scarecrow and then it ends up killing him.
00:39:59
Augie is talking about, you know, what's in the food that we're eating and then he's the one that ends up eating the toe.
00:40:07
Panics with the spider web when they're going to the basement or whatever.
00:40:11
And then she's the one that gets the spider bite.
00:40:13
Terrible.
00:40:14
uh Chuck mentions his nightmares about the Red Room and I came through in the hospital.
00:40:20
Ramon feels like a coward for avoiding Vietnam.
00:40:24
And then the monster comes and calls him a coward.
00:40:26
That one's a little too on the nose, but the other ones.
00:40:29
uh And then Stella seems to relate to Sarah as she feels like she doesn't belong.
00:40:34
And then in...
00:40:36
her story, she just takes Sarah's place.
00:40:38
Yeah.
00:40:40
Some of them are a little too on the nose, but for the most part, I thought that was fun.
00:40:44
How?
00:40:45
I do like that they kind of related that back, give you little clues as to how they were going to go.
00:40:52
Yeah.
00:40:53
Also,
00:40:54
This has nothing to do with that except for the whole Draft Dodger thing.
00:40:58
So, Ramona's a Draft Dodger and everybody hates him for it, which is kinda crazy.
00:41:02
I'm not gonna hold it up.
00:41:04
I don't want to say that'd me, but I am saying I'm not getting drafted, so.
00:41:10
I can't hate a draft dodger because if I was drafted, I'm probably dodging.
00:41:14
I'm probably dodging.
00:41:16
Anyways.
00:41:19
But I, there's a law, because he says that he was avoiding the draft because his brother died and like his body was shipped back to them and it like scarred him.
00:41:31
But there's laws saying that if
00:41:33
Like if there's two brothers and one of them dies, the other can't be drafted.
00:41:37
Oh, interesting.
00:41:39
Yeah, it's literally the entire premise of Saving Private Ryan, but I don't...
00:41:44
Yeah, because in that...
00:41:46
Oh, sorry.
00:41:47
Have you not seen that?
00:41:49
That's why they need to save Private Wright.
00:41:51
It's in the first like five minutes of the movie, so not really a spoiler.
00:41:56
He's one of five and all four of his brothers have died.
00:41:59
And so they have to go get him because they're like, this is fucked.
00:42:03
Like, we can't have.
00:42:05
Yeah.
00:42:05
Which is a real thing.
00:42:07
That's how the law was created was because there were, I think, I want to say it was five brothers and they were all in a submarine together and all died.
00:42:15
And so they were like, we have to like have some sort of prevention of this happening.
00:42:19
Mm-hmm.
00:42:20
And so that's supposed to be a thing.
00:42:21
And I believe it was even amended in Vietnam.
00:42:25
to be where like, even if you weren't the sole brother left, you couldn't be drafted.
00:42:32
So like if there were three brothers and one of them died, the other two were good.
00:42:37
So I'm just saying.
00:42:41
I don't think Ramon should have gotten drafted in the first place.
00:42:45
Even more valid draft dodging.
00:42:48
I think that this story is what inspired them to make that rule.
00:42:53
Yeah.
00:42:54
Yeah, absolutely.
00:42:55
After World War II, they were like, I'm sensing a Kira Del Toro movie in the future.
00:43:02
That's gonna make me want to change this.
00:43:05
Yeah.
00:43:05
Also, I forget that Vietnam was after World War II.
00:43:09
You think we would have learned our lesson.
00:43:11
Vietnam was after World War II.
00:43:13
Yeah, I forget.
00:43:14
There's like people alive still that were like in Vietnam.
00:43:18
Yeah.
00:43:20
That was in the 70s.
00:43:21
60s, 70s?
00:43:23
Yeah.
00:43:24
Anyway, somebody who knows a lot about American drafts, please let me know if I just caught a goof or not.
00:43:32
Yeah.
00:43:33
But I mean, I believe you.
00:43:36
I know it's a thing.
00:43:37
Yeah, Killer Q is an exclusive fun fact.
00:43:39
Gimikyu's exclusive goof.
00:43:42
Ramon should have been drafted in the first place.
00:43:44
I'll be honest, I didn't look at the goofs for this movie, so maybe that's already in there.
00:43:49
If it's not, you should add it.
00:43:50
Like I did that one with the whales in weapons.
00:43:55
That never even got published.
00:43:56
It's a fucking crime.
00:43:58
It's not in there.
00:43:59
crazy.
00:44:01
I just searched for draft in the goofs and nothing came up.
00:44:04
exclusive.
00:44:06
That's crazy, we don't get those often.
00:44:08
But that's just for you listeners, you're welcome.
00:44:10
Yeah, you're so welcome.
00:44:12
Shout out Matt Damon and Stephen Private Ryan.
00:44:17
He's in Saving Private Ryan?
00:44:20
NotDamnIt IS private writing.
00:44:23
thought it was Tom Hanks.
00:44:25
No, Tom Hanks is the main key.
00:44:27
He's trying to save Private Ryan.
00:44:30
Yeah.
00:44:32
Wow, you learn something new every day.
00:44:33
Yeah, I don't like war movies.
00:44:35
Pretty good movie, not gonna lie.
00:44:38
Yeah.
00:44:39
Iowa Mention.
00:44:41
Anyway, should we rate this movie?
00:44:45
We need to wrap this up.
00:44:46
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:47
Otherwise, we might go on another rant about a movie that's not this one.
00:44:50
a war movie that's not this one.
00:44:53
Why are we talking about war movies?
00:44:54
War is the central theme in this movie.
00:44:57
I, a tangent theme for one character.
00:45:01
How scary do you think it was?
00:45:04
I give it a .5 out of 5.
00:45:07
I watched this movie in 2019.
00:45:09
I think I was past the point of being scared by a PG-13 movie.
00:45:15
Well, that's not fair, because Sinister still scared me when it first came out.
00:45:18
Well, it didn't scare me, but it was scarier than ass.
00:45:21
I don't know, it's just the vibe.
00:45:22
It's an entry horror, like they said, you know?
00:45:27
Yeah.
00:45:27
What about you?
00:45:29
We all for a movie with the the word scary in the title.
00:45:35
It was a little disappointing, but it is a PG-13 movie.
00:45:38
It's YA adjacent, so I wasn't expecting too much.
00:45:41
I did still give it a one though, specifically for the like scared acting.
00:45:47
I feel like they did a really good job acting scared in this one.
00:45:51
Yeah!
00:45:52
Overall, the acting was questionable, but when they were supposed to be scared, it was pretty good.
00:45:57
Sometimes that's all you need in a horror movie.
00:45:59
Yeah, that's right.
00:46:00
Yeah.
00:46:02
How sexy did you think this movie was?
00:46:03
I feel weird even asking that for this one, if I'm being honest.
00:46:08
Yeah, no.
00:46:09
I mean, it is a book adaptation.
00:46:13
It is sort of uh anthological, which could be sexy.
00:46:18
It does also have some compelling villains.
00:46:22
Yeah, so I did give it a one for like those reasons.
00:46:27
But like outside of that, it's not.
00:46:29
Yeah, you.
00:46:31
I give it a .5.
00:46:33
Yeah, anthologies and book adaptations are...
00:46:37
Those don't really factor in my sexy scores.
00:46:39
I could see how they would for you.
00:46:43
And then the villains didn't do it for me, but I get the vibe.
00:46:47
They were cool villains.
00:46:49
Sexy.
00:46:50
Not for me.
00:46:52
Okay.
00:46:53
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:46:55
I give it a one, mainly just for the spiders.
00:46:59
I'm not a spider girl.
00:47:00
I don't want them coming out of my face.
00:47:03
And also, was like half of a half of a point for that and then half of a half of a point for him eating the toe.
00:47:12
I don't know why that just like, it's gross.
00:47:14
That's just gross.
00:47:15
I don't know.
00:47:16
and he didn't really even eat it.
00:47:17
He like sucked it.
00:47:19
He like bit down, like you could hear him biting down on it and then pulling it out and that's kind of what got me.
00:47:26
Also the stew in general didn't look that appetizing, Sorry to whoever cooked the toast stew.
00:47:34
What did you give it?
00:47:36
I also gave it a one just for originality.
00:47:40
The death by osmosis we hadn't seen before, the hay thing was unique and really uncomfortable.
00:47:47
The spiders thing, I'm not afraid of spiders, but I was really excited for that zit to pop.
00:47:53
I was really looking forward to it to be a zit popping and then it was just not that.
00:48:01
She was very convincing in that scene.
00:48:04
I did not like her.
00:48:06
her reaction to that happening.
00:48:08
uh So yeah, I gave it a one.
00:48:10
yeah, that's fair.
00:48:13
All right, overall, what did you think of the film adaptation of Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark?
00:48:18
Yeah, thank you so much for asking.
00:48:20
That is why we're here.
00:48:22
This was fine.
00:48:24
A little better than fine even.
00:48:26
The acting was patchy.
00:48:28
The dialogue was very not good.
00:48:33
It was very bad.
00:48:34
I mentioned this already, the monsters felt like on another or at least like a different level than the rest of the film.
00:48:41
It just didn't feel like cohesive, which maybe that's the point.
00:48:45
but I don't know, it just didn't land for me.
00:48:48
They felt like they were out of place.
00:48:50
I do think it was a creative attempt at putting all of those stories into one.
00:48:54
And like I said, I really did enjoy the villains.
00:48:58
I liked them all.
00:48:59
I liked the villains.
00:49:01
So I gave it a three.
00:49:03
Correct.
00:49:04
Thank you.
00:49:06
I'm so glad we agree.
00:49:08
Yeah, we do.
00:49:09
I also gave it a three.
00:49:11
Yeah, I think it's like a cute movie.
00:49:13
It's a cute Halloween movie.
00:49:15
I do think it could be like a gateway horror movie for like a tween, you know?
00:49:23
If I was 13, this movie would go crazy.
00:49:27
Yeah.
00:49:28
that red room scene would traumatize me.
00:49:32
I'd be talking about that in third period, you better believe.
00:49:36
I even remember how school works.
00:49:38
Anyways, I, yeah, I think, again, I do think the book would have worked better as like a little anthology TV series, a la Goosebumps, or Are You Afraid of the Dark?
00:49:49
Like, I think that that would have been a fun way to do it.
00:49:51
So, well, I liked seeing his stories come to life.
00:49:54
And I think the monster design, like you said, was great.
00:49:58
Do I think it utilized the full potential?
00:50:01
No.
00:50:02
But they did a fine job.
00:50:05
It's a fun little Halloween movie if you need something.
00:50:10
Three out of five.
00:50:10
know what I would like?
00:50:13
I would like this to have an anime adaptation.
00:50:17
Oh.
00:50:18
I think that would be fun because we've got the drawings are scary.
00:50:21
The drawings in the book, the illustrations in the book do hold their own.
00:50:25
Yeah.
00:50:27
So just take that, take even that art style, animate it.
00:50:33
That's all we need.
00:50:35
What could the budget possibly be for that, $12?
00:50:38
How much could a banana cost, Michael?
00:50:41
I, yeah, like honestly, let like Junji Ito get a hold of it.
00:50:49
Yeah, that actually could fuck.
00:50:51
yeah, yes.
00:50:54
Yeah, I mean, you sold.
00:50:56
Thank you.
00:50:57
or like fully commit del Toro style.
00:51:03
Yeah.
00:51:05
Well, I feel like you'd have to direct for that to be a thing.
00:51:07
Oh, okay.
00:51:10
You don't like √òvredal?
00:51:12
No, no, no, it needed to either be him or del Toro.
00:51:16
I'm preferring del Toro in this instance because what I liked about it was his influence.
00:51:25
Yeah, I think that's fair.
00:51:25
The monsters definitely suit del Toro's style a little bit better.
00:51:29
Well, I mean, that's not fair.
00:51:30
I've only seen one other movie from √òvredal so I don't think it's fair to like...
00:51:36
Say I know fully what his style is?
00:51:39
Well, you can say it's del Toro style without saying it's not √òvredal style.
00:51:45
Yeah, well, that's what I was gonna say.
00:51:47
It's not because his other movie that I've seen and you've seen is the autopsy of Jane Doe.
00:51:51
We talked about that not that long ago.
00:51:54
Yeah, so like that's a very different vibe than this movie and the monsters in this movie.
00:51:59
But I know he's also directing an upcoming adaptation of the video game Bendy and the Ink Machine, which kind of feels more of this, you know, so I'm like, I don't know.
00:52:11
But I'm excited for that.
00:52:12
I played that game and it was great, so.
00:52:14
I'm excited to see that.
00:52:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:17
I think about the autopsy of Jane Doe all the time.
00:52:20
Yeah.
00:52:22
It's underrated.
00:52:23
Yeah.
00:52:26
Anyway.
00:52:26
speaking of that and tying way back to the very beginning when we talked about Mike Flanagan, I just saw a letterboxed interview where they were asking a bunch of people in
00:52:34
the horror world what their favorite underrated horror movie was.
00:52:38
Mike Flanagan, my boy, said Lake Mungo, praised it, talked about how amazing it was.
00:52:47
Didn't we talk about that in the Lake Mungo?
00:52:50
Okay.
00:52:51
Because he's reviewed it on Letterboxd about how much he loved it and how he made Kate watch it.
00:52:59
And then I think we talked about it again when we did the game where you had to guess the movie based on the Letterboxd reviews.
00:53:05
Because one of the reviews for that movie was like, I bet Mike Flanagan watches this and just like punches the air in excitement or whatever.
00:53:16
Yeah.
00:53:16
Anyways.
00:53:20
108 of me trying to get you to love that movie.
00:53:24
There's a few that we need to revisit.
00:53:26
Maybe that's what we do for our 150 is we revisit movies that I've shat on.
00:53:31
that I think you're wrong about.
00:53:34
Yeah, so like it follows.
00:53:36
Yep, the menu, except we already did that.
00:53:39
Yeah, you already told We've beaten Lake Mungo to death with a rake at this point.
00:53:47
The menu, what did I say?
00:53:48
Oh, no, Lake Mungo, could never talk about it.
00:53:53
Perhaps terrifying?
00:53:55
Art the Clown is really growing on me.
00:53:59
said in our episode, I think Art the Clown is a good villain.
00:54:03
Like, I get him.
00:54:05
It's the rest of it, I don't lie.
00:54:08
But David Howard Thornton is a gem.
00:54:10
He's great as Art.
00:54:12
I get him.
00:54:15
Art the Clown.
00:54:16
David Howard Thornton.
00:54:19
Yeah.
00:54:20
We'll be here.
00:54:21
He's doing his rounds at all the little horror shops we have.
00:54:25
Got it.
00:54:26
Maybe I'll get to meet him.
00:54:29
But I don't think he's gonna be like in costume.
00:54:32
He's gonna be like human version.
00:54:36
Alright, well I guess I'm gonna make you...
00:54:40
It'd have to be like a really bad s- Okay, we gotta re-watch The Strangers.
00:54:44
You shit all over that one.
00:54:47
Yes, you did.
00:54:49
You gave it a 2.5, Katie.
00:54:51
That's still a 50%.
00:54:54
That's failing.
00:54:56
You literally just retracted a 2.5 because it was so harsh.
00:55:00
Yeah, well, for that movie.
00:55:03
Long walk, we gotta revisit, you shit all over that one.
00:55:06
I already revisited that one and fixed my reading.
00:55:12
Long walk in the menu are off limits because I've already redone.
00:55:15
You've already retracted.
00:55:16
That's true.
00:55:17
You've changed your mind.
00:55:18
It has to be once you haven't changed your mind up.
00:55:21
All right.
00:55:22
the opposite.
00:55:23
You could make me watch Tusk again.
00:55:26
Maybe my tune will change.
00:55:28
the desk again.
00:55:31
I've already watched us two times more than I should.
00:55:34
No, I love tusks.
00:55:37
I'm gonna fall asleep through that tonight.
00:55:39
The sounds that he makes.
00:55:45
There's, you know what?
00:55:46
I love whatever's wrong with you.
00:55:49
Alright, would you survive this movie?
00:55:51
Back on track.
00:55:53
Oh yeah, I feel like no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:55:58
it was so confident and then a full 180.
00:56:00
I was yying that we are going back on track.
00:56:04
I feel like I have a lot of fears that the scary lady can write.
00:56:08
They could have capitalized on.
00:56:11
So I think I'm toast.
00:56:14
Yeah, how about you?
00:56:15
Oh, anything, anything, any story.
00:56:22
Any story ever.
00:56:24
And you're dying every time.
00:56:26
Damn, you're scared of everything.
00:56:30
Yeah, that's it is what anxiety is.
00:56:35
Yeah.
00:56:36
How about you?
00:56:38
think if I'm putting myself in this specific movie, I'm Spider-Girl.
00:56:44
That's my nightmare.
00:56:46
And she lives.
00:56:48
So does that mean I live?
00:56:50
I think it does.
00:56:52
Sure.
00:56:53
Yeah, still like can't, I gotta kinda like watch that through one eye, you know?
00:56:58
Yeah, that was the only one I didn't have to watch through when I was like,
00:57:01
It's all of them swarming though.
00:57:05
Ugh.
00:57:07
Ugh, sore subject, one of my beetles died today.
00:57:10
I'm so sorry.
00:57:11
Thanks, it's okay.
00:57:13
I left him in the tank so the other ones could eat it.
00:57:15
Thank you for sharing that.
00:57:19
That's what you're supposed to do, it's good protein.
00:57:21
No, yeah, I would never, genuinely, would never question your beetle parenting.
00:57:27
Thank you.
00:57:28
Thank you.
00:57:29
Yeah.
00:57:31
universities to amaze me how difficult you can make it to like bounce back into another topic.
00:57:39
So sorry.
00:57:40
We're done here.
00:57:42
That's great.
00:57:46
You don't want to predict next week's movie?
00:57:50
We do do that every once in while if you want to partake.
00:57:54
I will say though that I do know enough about the movies that we're doing next week to make this boring.
00:58:04
Okay, do you think that though?
00:58:05
Because sometimes you say that and then the words that come out of your mouth are not even close to what's happening in the movie, so.
00:58:11
No, I'm pretty sure.
00:58:14
Like not even joking.
00:58:16
OK, yeah, yeah.
00:58:16
talking about Candyman.
00:58:18
We're gonna do both the original 1992 version and the 2021 reboot, so hit me.
00:58:25
Candyman is about a man who has a hook arm.
00:58:30
I know this because I went to a horror shop over the weekend and they had coincidentally a hook arm Candyman Candyman is that what it's called Candyman?
00:58:43
Yes?
00:58:44
branded.
00:58:47
Yeah, from the film.
00:58:50
I mean, not like actually from the film, but like branded.
00:58:54
It said Candyman on
00:58:56
like merch.
00:58:58
Cool.
00:59:01
Well, I don't know, you have that horror shop by your place that has like authentic stuff from the movies.
00:59:05
So I thought that maybe it wasn't that wild of me to think that.
00:59:10
Thank you.
00:59:12
No, this was one that like my daughter found and was like, look, mom, what I found.
00:59:17
she and she had it on and she was picking up picking, you know, the plastic orange trick or treating buckets.
00:59:23
She was going around the store, picking all of those up with the hook arm.
00:59:26
I should have taken a video.
00:59:29
She's so fucking cool.
00:59:30
And she was the one who brought me into the saw bathroom and was like, let's take a picture with this little man on a bike.
00:59:34
I was like, yeah, OK.
00:59:35
uh I did, yes, she knows his name, she knows his name.
00:59:43
Anyway, it's yeah, it's about him and he's an urban legend and they're like in they're like Talking about him in school or something like hey, there's this urban legend like
00:59:55
what if we explored it kind of thing and Then they do and he's real
01:00:00
How do they explore it?
01:00:02
research.
01:00:04
If you research Candyman, he comes.
01:00:07
there's something that makes him come.
01:00:13
How do you make the candy man come, huh?
01:00:16
um Saying his name, saying his name three times like Beetlejuice and Bloody Mary.
01:00:22
Well.
01:00:23
Got it.
01:00:24
It's funny that you thought of Bloody Mary first and I thought of Beetlejuice first because a little more opposite aligned.
01:00:32
Beetlejuice is more your vibe.
01:00:33
Bloody Mary is more my vibe.
01:00:35
Explain.
01:00:37
Well
01:00:38
Beetlejuice is a horror movie and
01:00:42
is a children's film, but sure.
01:00:46
I watched that movie when I was eight and it didn't scare me, so...
01:00:49
Yeah.
01:00:50
a you problem.
01:00:51
And Bloody Mary is.
01:00:56
Isn't it Mary Queen of Scots?
01:00:57
Is that who Bloody Mary is?
01:00:59
And you say her name and then she comes to haunt you?
01:01:03
Isn't that...
01:01:04
Is that her?
01:01:05
I don't think so.
01:01:06
Now I don't know.
01:01:08
I think she's just...
01:01:10
her own thing.
01:01:11
I don't think she's married, Queen of Scots.
01:01:15
Okay, cool.
01:01:16
Yeah.
01:01:17
That reminds me of did we talk about this in the podcast already?
01:01:20
Sorry if we already told you this.
01:01:22
The other day I was like excited about a book I was reading and it just really caught me off guard that it wasn't what I thought it was going to be.
01:01:30
Because in the synopsis of the book it says brought to you by the author who wrote the Clockwork universe.
01:01:38
And I'm like yeah Clockwork Orange this is going to be fucking freaky.
01:01:42
And then it's a nonfiction story about dinosaurs which was great.
01:01:46
I gave it a four point five out of five.
01:01:47
em But I was expecting something else.
01:01:52
Well, it turns out the clockwork universe is not the clockwork orange.
01:01:56
Those are two different things.
01:01:58
Yeah.
01:02:00
Anyway.
01:02:01
Once again, sorry that happened to you.
01:02:03
I don't know what to say.
01:02:06
was weird.
01:02:06
But I mean, honestly, great book.
01:02:09
Still, regardless, it was literally a nonfiction about the people who discovered fossils.
01:02:14
It was very cool.
01:02:16
Sounds incredible.
01:02:19
All right, cool.
01:02:21
you said that in high school they learn about the candy man and then they saw him.
01:02:25
Yeah, and they still don't even say his name.
01:02:27
Great, and then do they live?
01:02:29
Does Candyman live?
01:02:30
What happens?
01:02:31
that song from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
01:02:35
Yeah.
01:02:36
And that's how he comes.
01:02:39
Yeah.
01:02:40
And then what was your question?
01:02:43
Do...
01:02:43
How does it end?
01:02:46
I mean, it's a slasher, so there's a final girl.
01:02:50
There's a final girl, everybody else dies, but the final girl is able to escape.
01:02:54
I don't think Candyman is killed because I know for a fact there are more than one of them.
01:02:59
A Candyman 2, perhaps?
01:03:03
There are sequels, yes.
01:03:04
Too handy to pay him.
01:03:07
Too candy, too man.
01:03:08
Mm-hmm.
01:03:09
Yeah.
01:03:11
Great!
01:03:12
Yeah.
01:03:13
Do you know who plays Candyman?
01:03:14
Yeah, I do.
01:03:16
You just don't know his name, but you know him.
01:03:18
Yeah, the legend, the one and only Tony Todd.
01:03:22
Yes, who just died?
01:03:24
Yeah, he died last year?
01:03:27
Yeah, not that long ago.
01:03:28
He died almost a year ago.
01:03:31
He died November 6, 2024.
01:03:34
Wow, long time.
01:03:36
It'll be good though.
01:03:38
Add this to your repertoire of kind of classics.
01:03:41
I mean it's 90s but still I consider it a classic.
01:03:44
You gotta watch it.
01:03:46
Yeah, for sure.
01:03:48
You do chant his name.
01:03:49
That is how you summon him.
01:03:51
Hell yeah, I made that up.
01:03:53
That was the one thing I didn't know.
01:03:55
Oh, you just chant it?
01:03:59
You have to say it five times.
01:04:00
Five times?
01:04:03
What are the odds?
01:04:06
Are they doing it on purpose?
01:04:08
Okay.
01:04:08
it's more of an intentional thing.
01:04:10
You know, it's an urban legend.
01:04:11
Nobody says Bloody Mary three times in front of a mirror on accident.
01:04:15
You do it because you want to summon Bloody Mary.
01:04:18
Yeah, you're right.
01:04:20
Cool, I'm excited.
01:04:22
Me too.
01:04:22
We'll see you then.
01:04:24
Don't forget to put in the comments what we told you to put in the comments, which Cassidy will remind you of.
01:04:31
Right.
01:04:31
I don't remember everything, but I do remember that I would like more information on the sole survivor law about the draft.
01:04:38
Please let me know if you have more information.
01:04:41
I could Google it, but I probably won't if I'm being honest with myself.
01:04:46
So there's that.
01:04:48
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01:04:50
Let us know your favorite scary story to tell in the dark.
01:04:54
There we go.
01:04:55
That's a good one.
01:04:55
a good one.
01:04:57
Yeah, and other than that, we'll see you next week for Candyman.
01:05:00
is two of them candy men
01:05:04
of them.
01:05:05
Candymen, two candy, two men.
01:05:08
All right, see you then.
01:05:09
Thanks.
01:05:11
Bye.