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Hello.
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Hi, happy Tuesday.
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Yes, it is a Tuesday.
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Oh, not happy for you or?
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great.
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No yeah, I just wanted to make sure, check in on my pal, make sure you're having a happy Tuesday, even though we're not recording this on Tuesday, but still, that's okay.
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Well, welcome back to the Killer Cuties podcast.
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I'm KD and you are.
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I am Cassidy.
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Thank you so much.
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We're here today to talk about Crimson Peak.
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But we're not going to yet.
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yeah but first we have a little game we like playing games because then we don't have to look for news
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Sometimes news is just...
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Nothing sparks joy, you know?
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So, I like to wait until I have multiple news and then to choose from.
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Mm-hmm.
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From which to choose.
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Exactly.
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From whence it came to choose.
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Sure.
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Anyway.
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Yeah, so this game is similar to a game that we've played in the past, except we're doing it with emojis.
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So we have a random, we have a wheel of names.
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We're gonna spin the wheel.
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It's gonna land on one of the 136 to 145, somewhere in there, movies that we have watched for the podcast.
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Mm-hmm.
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and we have to get the other person to guess it in as few emojis as possible.
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Yeah, we'll explain what emojis we're using too for the listeners.
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Yeah.
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So you, yes, you can play along.
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Yes.
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Okay, I'll go first.
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Okay, I'm spinning.
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I almost said it out loud.
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Oh, okay.
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All right.
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Ready?
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Yes.
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First emoji is...
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Okay, it's the alien.
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Emoji, yes.
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The emoji is the alien.
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna go...
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signs.
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Oh, I know what it is though.
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Well, maybe.
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I guess I should gone Alien.
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We've done so many alien movies, I had too many to choose from, you know?
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Yeah, I'm trying to really narrow it down without being super obvious.
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Okay.
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This is a little meta.
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okay, the next emoji is a pink heart.
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You
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I'm trying to like psychically understand what you want me to read that as.
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huh.
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I can only think of two other movies with aliens, so I'm just gonna 50-50 it.
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Okay?
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I don't know if I should go like obvious or not, but it's random.
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I'm going to go no one will save you.
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Oh no...
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Okay, that was too meta.
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It was too meta.
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Okay.
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A flashlight.
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I fear I'm not even thinking of any movie that this is.
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dear.
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I hope I'm, I hope I know what movie I'm talking about.
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That would be crazy.
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really hope you do too.
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Okay.
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If you don't get it after this one, I have a plan, but it's gonna...
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I have like three alien movies in my brain and none of them make sense to me with the clues, which is why I'm struggling.
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Okay.
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I'm just gonna say alien because if I don't say alien I'm gonna be mad that I didn't say alien.
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Okay.
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A pink heart and flashlight resonates with the movie Alien for you.
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Got it.
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Okay, well, it's not Alien, so.
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Okay.
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uh
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I don't know what it is.
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Okay, how about.
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A mountain?
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I have no idea.
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A snowy mountain.
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The fourth kind?
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Yes!
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What is the heart about Katie?
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Kind!
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I said it was meta.
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What's the flashlight?
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The lights!
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Are there no lights in the fourth kind?
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There's like UFO lights, there's a UFO emote, why wouldn't you use that?
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Because I already did alien.
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The alien part was established.
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You just done like a video camera.
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It's found footage.
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oh, yeah, but it's not it's a mockumentary.
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The next one I was going to do was a microphone.
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That would have really thrown.
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was just Milla Jovovich's face.
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Yeah.
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New to Samsung.
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Okay, well you got it in four, fourth kind, four, fourth kind.
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Yeah, I'm sure you did.
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Spin that wheel.
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Spin that wheel, here I go!
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Ooh, okay.
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Thank you for the reminder.
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Got this.
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Ready?
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it.
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Yeah, I got it.
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It's the Mexico flag.
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It is.
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It's the Mexico flag.
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Is it a movie in Espanol or is it a movie set in Mexico?
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I I can't tell you, right?
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That's part of the game.
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Okay, I'm gonna go Ruins.
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I'm obsessed with you, actually.
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Yes!
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yes!
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my god.
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You got it in one!
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It was either gonna be that or I was gonna say rec.
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Mmm.
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That was from Spain though, wasn't it?
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Or was it from Mexico?
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I don't know.
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And it wasn't even wrecked.
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Is that even the movie that I'm thinking of?
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I think maybe I'm thinking of a different-
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Is it?
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Or VHS?
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What's VHS?
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VHS is also found footage, but that's the one that's like anthology.
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Like there's several different segments broken up.
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I almost guessed that for yours because I was like, is each one of these a different segment?
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the couple in the hotel, the like, yeah, it was like, is that what she's going for?
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But then the mountain, I was like, no.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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That was so good.
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That was a good one.
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Okay.
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Next one.
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I already started spinning.
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Okay.
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I fear I don't remember this film.
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You can Google it if you need to.
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I already did.
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yep, I've got it.
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this is good because I already know it's like a deep cut.
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Like, it's not one of the ones you clearly loved because you would have remembered it.
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oh.
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Okay, it's a watch.
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Don't look at me like it's so obvious.
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Well, I mean, it kind of is.
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You can have another emoji.
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They are free.
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I know I'm just, I feel like I'm bad at this game.
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Okay, I'm gonna guess.
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I'm gonna guess stop motion.
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Like stopwatch, no?
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Not good.
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That's not it.
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Thank you, okay.
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I didn't think it was gonna be because I think there is a stopwatch emote, but.
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Yeah.
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Just wanna make sure I'm not getting my wires crossed here.
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Yeah, no.
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Okay, the next emoji is the acting masks.
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It's the happy and sad.
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Oh, that's even more confusing.
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shoot.
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Maybe I'm just bad at emojis.
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It's one of the two, either I'm really bad at this or you can't choose an emo to save your life.
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The only thing that's running through my head is the fall of the house of Usher and I don't think that's right but I'm gonna guess.
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They wear masks.
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I mean reasonable, it's a guess, it's a good guess.
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It's certainly a guess.
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It is a guess.
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Yes.
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I said too obvious.
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Please be obvious.
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What?
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No, I mean like.
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Okay, I'll do that one, but I don't think it's going to help.
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It's the knife emo, which yeah, that's every movie.
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Yeah.
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I mean, think of the poster.
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That could help.
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You're recreating the poster in emojis?
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Oh, okay.
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mean, yeah, but not on purpose.
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It just happens to be what the movie's about.
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Okay.
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Time.
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Acting.
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Knifing.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, actually.
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The final girls?
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No, same font.
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The next emote is a scientist?
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A woman, a woman scientist specifically.
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You see her?
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I do.
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Why can I not think of any movie we've seen that has a female scientist?
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Yeah.
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I'm going to add that to our repertoire, female scientist movies.
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So I can forget about them.
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Can I give you another one?
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Please, I have nothing.
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A ferris wheel?
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What the fuck is going on, Katie?
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This is a real film!
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It is!
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It's an underappreciated film.
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Where is a Ferris wheel?
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fair.
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Yep.
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What movie have we done about a fair?
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No, give me another.
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I don't know.
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I have no idea what this is.
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Oh, I can't do that.
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Okay, wait.
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m
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It's a camera with a flash.
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Mm-hmm.
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I love how you were like, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait.
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Like it was some big revelation.
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I still don't know what it is.
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It's a fair and they're taking pictures and there's a scientist and there's a knife and masks and time.
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It's on the tip of your tongue.
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It genuinely, from the bottom of my heart, is not.
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It's not at all.
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Okay, one of the two of us is very bad at this.
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What does it do?
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I think I don't know who it is.
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can't.
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I'll know once I know what the movie is if you were bad at this or not.
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I hope that there's a listener just screaming the name of this movie into their headphones.
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I hope, I truly hope everybody has gotten this except me.
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Totally killer.
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Yes!
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Wow.
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Was I wrong?
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There's a mass killer, he's got a knife, it's time travel, the girl's a scientist, they're at the fair, they're in a photo booth.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of like what I would do differently.
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And I don't know.
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So that's good for you for sure.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, I don't, just was not, it was not on my radar, but you're right, it is a very underrated and kind of final girlsie movie, so my bad, totally killer.
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Yeah, I just need a little reminder of which movie at once I saw the movie.
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I was like, yeah, I know that movie.
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Yeah.
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Your turn.
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Okay.
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Got it?
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Sending emote now.
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Okay, the first emoji is...
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There wasn't an emoji for what I wanted to do, so please hold.
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Try a different name for it.
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I tried like four.
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It's fine though.
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I got it.
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Okay.
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Okay, the first emoji is an old woman.
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tears.
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First thing that comes to my mind with Old Woman is a movie we just watched.
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Mm.
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in which there is an old woman.
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The ritual is what I'm thinking of.
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I'm going to go with that.
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incorrect.
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That's okay though.
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I'm going to get you with this one.
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Okay.
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The next emoji is kissing a boy and a girl kissing, straight kissing.
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Okay.
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We're kissing, there's an old lady.
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Why is this so hard?
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Welcome to my world.
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I guess so.
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I am gonna guess...
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Eventually.
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Great, take your time.
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Thank you.
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Sinister.
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Damn it.
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Okay, ready?
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Yeah.
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of film.
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Next is found footage.
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It's found footage.
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Am I allowed to tell you?
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No.
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And they're kissing?
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They're kissing.
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They're kissing and it's found footage and there's an old lady.
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Perhaps.
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Kissing found footage old lady.
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Is it?
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Wreck?
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Fuck.
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Let me, okay.
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Okay, I'm gonna mix it up here a bit.
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Okay.
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oh, I got it.
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There's a farmer, it's Pearl.
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The other one.
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The other one.
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you're right.
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It's the other one.
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X.
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X.
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Okay, good.
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Yes.
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Old lady.
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Pornography.
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I mean...
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was like searching pitchfork farm barn and none of it was coming up.
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So I was like, all right, old woman porn.
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Perfect.
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I love it.
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ah Is there a scarecrow emoji perhaps?
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That would have been a good first choice too.
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you're right.
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Yeah, you're right.
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Okay, one more round.
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Okay, lightning round.
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I'm spinning.
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This is gonna be so easy.
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So easy.
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Okay, easy.
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It's easy.
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No, it's literally so easy.
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Don't piss me off.
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oh, it's a smile face.
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It's smile!
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Okay.
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The first thing I thought of was happy death day, because it's happy, but I'm glad I literally hovered over the emoji to see that it was called smile, so...
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Amazing.
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thank- oh, thank God.
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I was so scared I wasn't gonna get that.
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Alright, speedrun for you, ready?
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Spinning.
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It'll be great.
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It's gonna be fine.
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I got the Mexico flag, I can do anything.
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You're thinking harder now than you were when you had to guess.
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am, but that's because I wanted to like, I was really just searching for the right emote so that I didn't steer you off the wrong course, you know what mean?
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ready?
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Yes, okay, the emoji is.
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a parent and two children.
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You can hover over them to learn the name of it too, just offhandedly.
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It has nothing to do with this, of course.
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I would never try to give you an extra hint, but...
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I don't know that your emojis are called the same thing as my emojis.
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Oh.
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because it's called Family Woman Girl Girl.
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That is exactly what it is called on my end.
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Okay, family woman, girl, girl.
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My new favorite emoji, some might say.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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uh
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Family woman, girl, girl.
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Of course, is the horror movie...mother?
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No.
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That's family woman child.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I wonder if my emoji looks different than yours.
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Cause nothing
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like a nondescript family of three.
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But that's why I focus to choose family woman, girl, girl.
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Okay.
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Okay, the next emoji is...
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Don't see you getting this.
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God.
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But I'm gonna keep trying because who am I if not determined, you know?
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Yeah, a blue dress.
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It's just a dress.
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Family Woman Girl Girl and dress.
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Suspiria?
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No.
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uh Okay, is this a hard one?
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Do I have I seen this movie?
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You have seen this movie?
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Did I hate it?
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Oh.
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but my guess is that you do not remember him.
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Okay, all right, so it's from a while ago is what you're telling me.
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Yeah, would that be?
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I guess.
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I know what it is.
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I know what it is.
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I know what it is
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Do you have to wait until I send another one to guess?
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Okay.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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top sticks?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You have to think.
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Okay, so it's not the movie that I thought it was.
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Oh no.
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Okay.
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I don't think.
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Oh my god, I know what it is.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, I do.
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I do.
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Wait.
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Don't say anything.
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A tale of two sisters.
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Fuck yes.
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What does the dress have to do with it?
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because the wardrobe falls on her.
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Like that's how...
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There isn't one.
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I searched.
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So I just did close.
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Okay, there we go.
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I got it.
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It worked.
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at because I was like, if she's thinking, but I didn't want to do a flag again because that felt, I don't know.
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It feels okay because it's the setting of the ruins, not where it came from, you know what I mean?
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But yeah.
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The setting of the ruins was quintessential Mexico.
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Yeah.
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Like historically quintessential.
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All right, cool.
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We got there.
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Wow amazing and it only took us half an hour.
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That's okay, a lot of that was me just thinking, so I'll cut all that dead air off.
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Fun.
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Okay, well now we're here to talk about Crimson Peak.
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We sure are!
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Give us an overview, Katie!
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I will Crimson Peak is a 2015 horror romance starring Mia Wasikowska, Tom Hiddleston, Jessica Chastain and Charlie Hunnam.
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From Google, a little synopsis, after marrying the charming and seductive Sir Thomas Sharp, young Edith finds herself swept away to his remote Gothic mansion in the English
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Hills.
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Also living here is Lady Lucille, Thomas' alluring sister and protector of her family's dark secrets.
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Able to communicate with the dead, Edith tries to decipher the mystery behind the ghostly visions that haunt her new home.
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my God, this is the longest summary ever.
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As she comes closer to the truth, Edith may learn that true monsters are made of flesh and blood.
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That was a very long summary, but thanks Google, I guess.
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Guillermo del Toro directed this one and wrote it with Matthew Robbins and Lucinda Coxon.
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It had a $55 million budget and made a total of almost $75 million at the global box office.
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It has a 3.4 out of 5, like literally every other movie on Letterboxd, and 6.5 out of 10 on IMDB.
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Also has a 72 % critics and 56 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Am I wrong?
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Like literally every Letterboxd movie has a 3.3 to 3.6.
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Yeah, that checks out.
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That's so strange.
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feel like that kind of makes sense to me.
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Like if everybody and their mother rated the same movie, it would probably be between a 3.4 and a 3.6 like statistically.
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That's not fun.
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Oh, okay.
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What are the highest rated movies on Letterboxd?
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I'm looking.
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The top 250 movies by unweighted rating.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's like Grave of the Fireflies, Dark Knight, Interstellar, Schindler's List, Lord of the Rings, Godfather.
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Yeah, Parasite.
00:21:49
hmm.
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Yeah, Godfather has a 4.5.
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Number one is a movie called Central Station.
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it has a 4.3.
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See, there's some of these that are like, like limited series or stuff like Band of Brothers is one of the highest showing 4.71.
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Like obviously that's like a series, not a film.
00:22:16
Anyway, I digress.
00:22:19
Anyways, this isn't on there.
00:22:21
This is not one of the highest rated on Letterboxd.
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But should it be?
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That's only for us to decide.
00:22:29
m Only us.
00:22:32
only us.
00:22:35
Charlie Hunnam was incredibly out of place in this movie.
00:22:39
Yeah?
00:22:40
Yeah, he's he is like a grown-up iPad kid
00:22:46
What?
00:22:48
You know an iPad kid is?
00:22:49
Well it's like that, but he's like grown up.
00:22:55
You know?
00:22:57
him as a person?
00:22:59
Yeah.
00:23:00
I guess I don't get that vibe from him, but okay.
00:23:04
I just get the vibe that he would not- his face is not a face from those times.
00:23:15
Tom Hiddleston's face absolutely could be from that century.
00:23:22
Yeah, and Mia, her face, that's a period piece face.
00:23:27
I guess if I had to rank the four main people in terms of whose face belongs there and whose doesn't, his probably would be last.
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But I didn't find him too out of place.
00:23:41
okay.
00:23:43
It didn't take me out of it.
00:23:45
I just see him and all I see is sons of anarchy, I guess.
00:23:49
Which I've never seen.
00:23:50
Oh, interesting.
00:23:52
And you still think of it.
00:23:53
Yeah.
00:23:54
I've never seen it so I don't think of that at all.
00:23:57
Yeah, just like a lot of people around me have seen it.
00:24:02
So it's like, you know, yeah.
00:24:05
Yeah, that's fair.
00:24:07
One of my favorite fun facts about this movie is that when Del Toro pitched the film to Charlie Hunnam, he told him that he would be playing the damsel in distress.
00:24:16
And Hunnam was immediately in.
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Cute.
00:24:20
And I think that's adorable.
00:24:22
Does he play the damsel in distress?
00:24:25
Kind of.
00:24:27
He got stabbed, he has to get saved.
00:24:30
Oh, he does get stabbed and I did not like the way in which he was stabbed.
00:24:35
Yeah, I think a blunt cylindrical object being stabbed into someone is incredibly inappropriate.
00:24:43
Yeah, it is, as you told me, you DM'd me immediately and said that that's worse than a knife.
00:24:49
And I never really thought about it, but you're correct, I think.
00:24:51
Thank you.
00:24:52
I would rather a knife go into my armpit than a screwdriver, for example.
00:24:56
Yeah.
00:24:58
Well, ripped to him, I guess.
00:25:01
Well, no, he lives.
00:25:04
That's right.
00:25:05
Yeah, he does.
00:25:07
You who doesn't live?
00:25:09
Tom Hiddleston's character.
00:25:12
And he decayed instantly, like you just become a ghost and-
00:25:18
You're decayed.
00:25:20
Yeah, the rules of Crimson Peak are...
00:25:24
few and far between.
00:25:27
Yeah.
00:25:28
It's just kind of the vibe of it all.
00:25:31
I actually kind of appreciate that about Del Toro as a filmmaker.
00:25:36
He doesn't really care about realism.
00:25:39
He wants things to look cool and he wants to tell an interesting story.
00:25:43
And what more should movies be, really?
00:25:49
ah Yes, I don't think this movie looked very cool when the bar is Pan's labyrinth from Guillermo del Toro.
00:26:01
Yeah, you're never gonna meet that though.
00:26:03
Yeah, that's what I wanted.
00:26:05
I wanted gothic pans labyrinth and what I got was gothic paw patrol maybe at best.
00:26:17
Harpatrol?
00:26:19
in terms of
00:26:21
CGI and
00:26:23
yeah, I find it interesting too because a lot of it is practical with just CGI on top.
00:26:28
Like that's Doug Jones playing the ghost.
00:26:32
And Doug Jones, don't get me started on Doug Jones.
00:26:36
But yeah, it is interesting how not great the CGI is on top of it.
00:26:45
Yeah, because Doug Jones was in Pan's Labyrinth and did a very like it looked I mean, again, this is not Doug Jones's fault.
00:26:55
But they didn't just trust that what they could do to him and what he could portray in the character would work and be scary.
00:27:04
Well, I think they wanted it more of like just a different vibe.
00:27:08
Well, I didn't, so maybe they should have thought of that.
00:27:11
You know, I'm sure next time Guillermo del Toro will think about you and make something that you want.
00:27:19
Thank you.
00:27:21
I'm sorry he didn't.
00:27:23
No, I'm sure there are people who did not like those special effects.
00:27:30
They're not my favorite part of this movie, but I do think they kind of fit the vibe of the movie.
00:27:39
yeah, there's certainly a vibe about it all.
00:27:41
Yeah, I think it...
00:27:43
I don't hate it as much because he's not trying to make it, like, really grounded.
00:27:49
Like, it is this kind of, like, fantastical, whimsical setting.
00:27:55
So it doesn't bother me as much as it would if it was in a movie like The Conjuring.
00:28:00
You know what I mean?
00:28:01
Where it's, like, more grounded and trying for that realism.
00:28:06
But I do...
00:28:07
yeah, they're not the best.
00:28:08
I'll agree with that, for sure.
00:28:11
Yeah, they really took me out of the film.
00:28:13
Unfortunately.
00:28:15
I do love the house, though.
00:28:17
The house was very cool.
00:28:18
Yeah, and the house was built in the studio in its entirety and then was torn down after shooting.
00:28:29
And then everything in the house was built for the movie.
00:28:33
Also, nothing was reused from salvage parts or it was all
00:28:38
hand-built for the house.
00:28:41
Like 50 million of that 55 million budget.
00:28:45
Seriously, I loved the house and I'll talk more about it when we talk about would we survive
00:28:51
okay.
00:28:52
Yeah, I love the set.
00:28:53
And I know Del Toro tries to create as much of the set as he possibly can.
00:28:59
Like, he always wants the actors to be able to be immersed in the vibe of it.
00:29:04
And that's also why he has, like, Doug Jones or Tom Hiddleston play their ghost versions, because he wants something that the actors can interact with.
00:29:14
And I think that's great.
00:29:17
But yeah, the house is beautiful.
00:29:19
I agree.
00:29:21
They built a lot of the furniture for the house in two different sizes too.
00:29:26
And they would switch it out based on what the characters' emotions were.
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So if they were feeling really weak and small and like powerless, they would put in the bigger furniture that they would sit on to make them like feel smaller.
00:29:37
And then if they kind of had strength and determination, then they would make them the smaller versions of it.
00:29:45
Interesting.
00:29:48
Like Lord of the Rings.
00:29:50
exactly like Lord of the Rings.
00:29:53
Cause the hobbits.
00:29:55
and the wizard, you know?
00:29:58
In order to have the hobbits, they had to be on bigger furniture.
00:30:05
Yeah, you knew that.
00:30:08
I don't know why I'm mansplaining Lord of the Rings to you.
00:30:11
Yeah.
00:30:12
I know everything about it.
00:30:14
Mm-hmm.
00:30:16
Speaking of Lord of the Rings, TIL, that Del Toro was supposed to direct the Hobbit movies?
00:30:23
Yeah, apparently.
00:30:25
I didn't know that until literally today when somebody was like talking about it was like in a fun fact on IMDB or something somebody just casually mentioned when he directed the
00:30:36
Hobbit movies and I'm like, but he didn't.
00:30:40
Yeah, apparently he was attached to direct at one point and then didn't happen.
00:30:46
Those would have been very different movies.
00:30:50
I've never seen The Hobbit, so I can't, I don't know.
00:30:53
But yeah, I'm sure.
00:30:54
the Hobbits are extremely similar vibes to the Lord of the Rings films.
00:30:58
Yeah, which is not really his vibe.
00:31:00
No.
00:31:01
That's what I'm saying.
00:31:02
It would have been very different from what we'd come to expect from the Lord of the Rings movies.
00:31:07
Yeah.
00:31:09
But hey, maybe in 20 years when they decide they need to remake the Lord of the Rings movies for some fucking stupid reason, money will be the reason.
00:31:17
He'll get the chance again.
00:31:19
And then we'll get creepy Lord of the Rings.
00:31:24
Everything I've ever dreamed of.
00:31:26
Can you talk about the cast a bit more?
00:31:30
Sure.
00:31:31
Jessica Castain was given Jessica Chastain.
00:31:38
You
00:31:40
What did say?
00:31:40
Casting?
00:31:42
like, don't tell me I've been saying that around my whole life.
00:31:45
Chastain.
00:31:47
She's in The Martian.
00:31:49
She's very good in that movie.
00:31:54
Anyway, Jessica Chastain was given the script after working with Del Toro on Mama a couple years prior.
00:32:04
And originally, she had thought that she was going to play Edith.
00:32:08
That's kind of who Del Toro had her pegged as.
00:32:11
And then Jessica was like, I would rather play Lucille.
00:32:13
I think that would be...
00:32:15
more challenging and more interesting for me and don't worry like, yeah, sure, you got it.
00:32:19
How can I love it when actors have relationships like that with the director?
00:32:23
Yeah, and the director like actually trusts the people that they're hiring to do their job.
00:32:28
Yeah, where he's like, yeah, I want you on this movie.
00:32:31
And she's like, oh, I'll just pick my part.
00:32:33
And he says, yeah, that's fine.
00:32:34
Whatever.
00:32:36
You can do it.
00:32:37
Tom Hiddleston and Mia Wazikowska were not the original Edith and-
00:32:45
Thomas?
00:32:46
Thank you.
00:32:47
I like, I don't remember his name.
00:32:50
Oh, Tom Hiddleston plays Thomas.
00:32:51
That's crazy.
00:32:53
Anyways, wasn't supposed to be them.
00:32:55
Originally Benedict Cumberbatch was cast as Tommy Thomas.
00:33:02
I don't know why I can't get this correct.
00:33:05
Why?
00:33:06
Why?
00:33:06
Where did Tommy come from?
00:33:07
Who's Tommy?
00:33:08
Just me and Thomas were real close.
00:33:11
yeah, we're on nickname basis now.
00:33:13
Anyways, he was originally cast as Thomas, but he left the project due to undisclosed reasons.
00:33:21
Some say that there were like creative differences, but he has said that there was no bad blood between him and Del Toro.
00:33:27
uh He also, there was like one report that he left because Jessica Chastain's part changed.
00:33:36
Like she wasn't going to play.
00:33:38
his love interest anymore and was gonna play the sister and that was why he left, but he...
00:33:42
I don't know if he said that that's correct.
00:33:45
I don't know.
00:33:45
There's a lot of, like, rumors, it seems.
00:33:47
I don't know, and I don't think that it did, if I'm being honest, that that doesn't seem correct to me, but I guess when Cumberbatch was asked why he left, he said, ask Guillermo,
00:33:58
he'll know.
00:33:59
m Guillermo doesn't know, so I don't know.
00:34:02
Or at least he hasn't spoken on it, so...
00:34:05
Who knows?
00:34:06
Yeah.
00:34:06
I don't know, but he was fine with Tom Hiddleston taking over their friends.
00:34:10
Tom Hiddleston asked for his blessing and he gave it and it doesn't seem as though anybody's mad at anybody, so.
00:34:19
Also, Tom Hylson signed on within 72 hours of Benedict Cumberbatch dropping out of the film.
00:34:24
And honestly, they're written in the same font.
00:34:29
Tom Hylson and Benedict Cumberbatch, they're just like, they're the same vibe, you know?
00:34:37
One, because they have sort of dorky names and two, because they just sort of have like, they just look that way.
00:34:44
You know what I mean?
00:34:44
You know what I mean?
00:34:45
They look like they've got a dorky name.
00:34:48
You know?
00:34:50
Yeah.
00:34:52
What's Dorky Tiddleston, guess, is kind of stupid.
00:34:55
Not sorry, that's not.
00:34:58
It's just like a silly little name.
00:35:00
Our one viewer named John Hiddleston is like, hey!
00:35:03
m
00:35:06
But yeah, no, Tom and Benedict are good friends and Tom got Benedict's blessing to take the role and then within 72 hours he had taken it.
00:35:17
Yep.
00:35:18
And then Emma Stone, she was originally supposed to play Edith and she was forced to drop out.
00:35:24
She had scheduling conflicts.
00:35:25
So nothing gray about that area.
00:35:29
We know why she left, but she was replaced by Mia Wazikaska and her and Tom Hiddleston were actually gamma del torus second choice anyway.
00:35:38
So it was kind of like, it was fine.
00:35:42
But I know he did do.
00:35:43
Yeah, he did a few rewrites, I think, just to make the characters fit them a little bit better, but...
00:35:50
cute.
00:35:51
Yeah.
00:35:52
Going back to Jessica Chastain, she learned how to play the piano for this movie and performed all the songs in the movie by herself.
00:36:02
And in the last project prior to this that she worked with Del Toro on, Mama, she had learned the bass guitar also.
00:36:11
She'll, she's just learning instruments left and right for her roles.
00:36:14
Yeah, very method of her.
00:36:16
Mm-hmm.
00:36:18
Supposedly, Del Toro had an actual supernatural event happen to him, he claims at least.
00:36:28
And this is where I found out about the trilogy, the Hobbit trilogy that he was supposed to direct, the Hobbit trilogy.
00:36:34
This is where I found out about it.
00:36:35
Because while he was scouting locations for the Hobbit trilogy, he and some members of the production stayed the night at a haunted hotel in New Zealand.
00:36:45
And then one night he...
00:36:47
swears he could hear the sounds of a murder coming from a vent in an empty bathroom.
00:36:55
Spooky.
00:36:56
Yeah, and that's what led to the scene in this film where Eda sees the ghost in the bathtub.
00:37:04
Nice.
00:37:09
You think if you were hearing a murder happening where you're staying you'd call the authorities?
00:37:17
but was coming from an empty bathroom.
00:37:19
I guess.
00:37:20
Yeah.
00:37:22
What are you gonna do?
00:37:24
Yeah, what are the authorities gonna do?
00:37:27
Nothing either way.
00:37:28
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:37:31
Anyway, he was also inspired by films such as The Innocence, The Haunting, The Exorcist, The Omen, and The Shining.
00:37:41
Lots of the movies.
00:37:45
All of the movies.
00:37:47
All of the The movies.
00:37:49
I feel like you can see that in the movie though.
00:37:52
Those influences.
00:37:54
Yeah, all of them.
00:37:55
I get it.
00:37:57
Yeah.
00:37:58
Mm-hmm.
00:38:00
Him and Matthew Robbins actually wrote the script in 2006.
00:38:04
right after Pan's Labyrinth was released.
00:38:07
But it was delayed so that he could work on Hellboy 2 and the Hobbit trilogy that never happened.
00:38:13
Well, it happened, but not with him, obviously.
00:38:16
And apparently he wrote like 11 or 12 different versions of the script and then was still making edits as they were filming.
00:38:23
So it was like, he was just always, always going on it.
00:38:28
Yeah.
00:38:29
Well, and then they finally finished the movie in December of 2014 or January of 2015, somewhere around that time.
00:38:35
And Universal said that the movie needed to be released with Halloween.
00:38:39
So it had to just sit there and wait for like 10 months until October 2015 to be released.
00:38:46
So they really played the long con on this one.
00:38:50
They did.
00:38:51
And for what?
00:38:52
$25 million?
00:38:54
I mean, that's kind of a lot,
00:38:58
I would murder for $25 million.
00:39:05
Yeah, reasonable in today's economy.
00:39:09
Yeah.
00:39:10
Do you know how many eggs that could buy me?
00:39:12
Like eight.
00:39:14
I'm kidding.
00:39:16
At least.
00:39:18
Not a very extensive fun fact, but another one that I really liked was that Guillermo del Toro and Tom Hiddleston both have said that this is the best set they've ever worked on,
00:39:27
which I think that's really wholesome.
00:39:29
yeah, that is very wholesome.
00:39:31
I mean everybody on the cast seems fun down to earth.
00:39:35
Yeah, probably good vibes and also just like the set itself was probably really cool to get to film in every day.
00:39:41
Yeah, so true.
00:39:44
Tom Hylson said that there was no stunt woman for the scene where Edith falls from the balcony.
00:39:51
Well, she doesn't fall.
00:39:52
She's pushed from the balcony.
00:39:55
Yeah.
00:39:57
She just, Mia Wasikowska did an acrobatic flip on wires and landed on a mattress.
00:40:04
And that's what's in the movie.
00:40:05
Yeah, doing your own stunts.
00:40:08
I always think I would and then I learn about the stunts that went wrong and I'm like, oh, I don't actually think I want to do that.
00:40:18
I'd still do it.
00:40:20
For 25 million dollars?
00:40:22
Well, all of that didn't go to me.
00:40:26
I'm sure she made enough.
00:40:29
Yeah, it's not about the money because I do think it would be fun to do them and like what other chance are you going to get to do them?
00:40:36
But then you think about, you know, Dylan O'Brien getting drug under a car and having to have like facial reconstructive surgery and it's like, is that something I want to have
00:40:45
happen to me?
00:40:46
No, I do not.
00:40:49
Daniel Radcliffe's body double literally being paralyzed.
00:40:54
Terrible.
00:40:55
Awful.
00:40:57
But then it's also like, damn, I say I'm not doing my stunts and somebody else has got to do it.
00:41:03
That's not cool either.
00:41:04
But they're also, that's what they do.
00:41:06
That's their job.
00:41:07
They train for that.
00:41:10
They're probably less likely to get hurt than I am, you know?
00:41:12
Yeah, they know what to expect.
00:41:15
How to counteract.
00:41:19
Yeah, it's like the one thing that I like about Tom Cruise is that he really commits to the fucking bit.
00:41:27
He does all his own shit.
00:41:29
He's like driving motorcycles off ramps off the side of a mountain and
00:41:33
Yeah.
00:41:34
parachuting off of the wing of a biplane.
00:41:39
Big Tom Cruise girl over here.
00:41:41
I just think it's cool that he's doing his own shit, you know?
00:41:45
And you just...
00:41:47
Tom Cruise's number one fan, kd.
00:41:49
No, no, don't put words in my mouth.
00:41:52
She loves him, she loves his acting, and she loves everything that he does in his personal life, and she approves of it too.
00:41:58
Literally the only movie I've ever enjoyed him in is that one.
00:42:02
What?
00:42:03
No, I don't.
00:42:05
That took you so long.
00:42:08
I don't even like him.
00:42:10
That was that that one movie I watched.
00:42:12
was that Edge of Tomorrow?
00:42:15
If he hadn't been in it, it would have been a perfect film.
00:42:18
Him and Emily Blunt.
00:42:19
If it was a different cast, perfect film.
00:42:23
They ruined it for me.
00:42:24
It was still good, though.
00:42:27
Yeah, she's fine, but.
00:42:29
Tom Cruise.
00:42:31
But see, every stunt that was in that movie, I was like, that's actually Tom Cruise.
00:42:38
Like he rolled under that car.
00:42:40
He got ran over by that car.
00:42:43
Yeah.
00:42:44
You guys should see her room.
00:42:46
She's got posters of him all over her wall.
00:42:48
She loves Tom Cruise.
00:42:49
you know, in hindsight, I have a poster of Chris Pratt.
00:42:52
I fucking hate him, too.
00:42:53
Yeah.
00:42:55
I need to get a different poster.
00:42:57
all the times where you say you don't.
00:43:00
So that everybody thinks that you're a big Tom Cruise girl.
00:43:04
yeah, I don't love Tom Cruise.
00:43:07
oh
00:43:12
Alright, back to this movie though.
00:43:15
not really stunts, but doing their own thing in the movie.
00:43:19
Tom Hiddleston had said that him and Mia did the dance with the candle and that they were able to do the whole dance without the candle going out, which was kind of the whole
00:43:28
thing.
00:43:29
And then later he admitted they used a double wick, which is easier for it to not go out.
00:43:34
So they cheated a little bit.
00:43:36
But I mean, it still works.
00:43:38
Still impressive.
00:43:39
Yeah.
00:43:41
What is a double-wicked candle?
00:43:43
I thought that they were like...
00:43:45
When I think of a double-wicked candle, I think of like the big round candles, you know?
00:43:49
And there's like two wicks spread out.
00:43:52
bath and body three-way candles.
00:43:57
No.
00:43:58
cherry blossom or some shit.
00:43:59
Yeah, Mahogany Teakwood, that's my favorite.
00:44:06
I think a double wick, I mean, I should look this up before I just speak on it like I know, but I'm pretty sure it's just two wicks that are like together, but then it's just
00:44:13
like double the force basically that's keeping it going.
00:44:17
Yeah, look it up.
00:44:19
See, everything that I'm seeing is just two separate wicks.
00:44:24
You know?
00:44:26
Yeah, and I knew what to search for, so now I'm on double wick movie candles for film and TV.
00:44:32
There's a whole website for it, Wicks and Wax.
00:44:35
Shout out to Wicks and Wax.
00:44:37
Look at that, movie candles.
00:44:40
Okay yeah, double wick candles are specifically designed to burn bright with a large flame.
00:44:44
They show better on camera than a single wick candle.
00:44:47
So yeah, think it's just, there's just two right next to each other.
00:44:52
That makes sense.
00:44:52
It would double the...
00:44:54
Yeah, it's like after I poop and I light two matches at the same time, it's a bigger flame.
00:44:58
It's more fun.
00:44:59
It makes more smell.
00:45:02
It's almost exactly like that.
00:45:05
you
00:45:07
Thank you.
00:45:08
Yeah, that was great.
00:45:11
You ever do that to your light too at the same time?
00:45:13
You ever have that bad of a poop?
00:45:15
It's a two match poop.
00:45:17
so if my house, like if it smells like poop, I'll just spray some Febreze, you know?
00:45:23
You don't like Febreze, but I live alone, so I don't have to worry about other people.
00:45:27
And also, sometimes I'll just close the door and go to another room for a while, you know?
00:45:32
Mm hmm.
00:45:33
Yeah, that's also the word wicked, like double wicked candle is also the word wicked.
00:45:43
And so everything that came up when I searched double wicked candle is wicked partnership with various candle brands.
00:45:55
Mm hmm.
00:45:57
That's a little fun fact, Killer Cuties exclusive.
00:45:59
Wicked and wicked are the same word.
00:46:02
Nice.
00:46:06
Anyway, remember when we were complaining about Charlie Hunnam's character getting stabbed in the armpit?
00:46:11
I remember you complaining about that, yes.
00:46:15
Yeah.
00:46:16
And it's not even the first time that Del Toro has done that.
00:46:20
He did that to a character called Jacinto in the 2001 film The Devil's Backbone.
00:46:29
Mm-hmm.
00:46:30
Yeah.
00:46:32
Ouch.
00:46:33
No thanks.
00:46:34
Unless it's a knife.
00:46:35
If it's a knife, then that's acceptable.
00:46:39
Yeah, that wouldn't be as hard to watch.
00:46:41
Top three places you don't want to get stabbed.
00:46:45
Non-fatal, by the way.
00:46:47
Like, it won't kill you.
00:46:48
my my like knee area.
00:46:52
Actually, I changed my mind.
00:46:54
My like, like, from the side.
00:47:00
from the side on my ankle, like between things, you know?
00:47:06
Yeah, like between the Achilles and the bone.
00:47:09
Yeah.
00:47:10
um, and followed closely by, armpit.
00:47:16
Great.
00:47:17
Yeah, and...
00:47:21
Honestly, anywhere else is fair game.
00:47:23
Just the two.
00:47:24
Great.
00:47:24
Yeah.
00:47:25
You?
00:47:27
Bottom of the foot.
00:47:29
Like the soft middle part.
00:47:31
yeah, that wouldn't be nice.
00:47:34
yet.
00:47:34
I never thought about the whole ankle thing that you just explained, but now that I'm thinking about it, sure, add that to the list.
00:47:41
That sounds awful.
00:47:42
uh
00:47:45
I don't know if armpit bothers me that much.
00:47:47
Well, are we, what, so are we talking knives or are we talking like blunt cylindrical instruments?
00:47:56
Like a pen or a screwdriver?
00:47:58
Does that change your answer?
00:48:00
Yes.
00:48:01
Both.
00:48:03
Okay, well, if it was blunt cylindrical, those are my answers.
00:48:07
Arm pit.
00:48:09
And honestly, face.
00:48:13
Face.
00:48:14
Yeah, but you can stab, you can stab me with a knife in the face.
00:48:17
Like, that's okay.
00:48:19
I really don't think I would like a knife to my kneecap or anything to my kneecap.
00:48:25
Yeah, that's fair.
00:48:26
Yeah.
00:48:28
I think I'm done thinking about it.
00:48:30
Yeah, great.
00:48:30
I'm glad we got it off our chests.
00:48:34
I did want to know.
00:48:36
No, I was curious.
00:48:38
Thank you.
00:48:39
Just in case, like, so you can make it as comfortable for me as possible.
00:48:43
Inevitably when you murder me.
00:48:47
Why would I murder you, Katie?
00:48:49
So I could have no friends?
00:48:51
Yeah, fierce.
00:48:52
Honestly.
00:48:53
What a crazy thing you think I would do.
00:48:56
Ah, shoot.
00:48:59
Alright, do you have any other fun facts?
00:49:00
No, I think we should rate it.
00:49:03
I think we should too.
00:49:04
We've babbled enough.
00:49:05
Yeah.
00:49:08
Babylonia, the Tower of Babel, religion.
00:49:14
How scary did you think it was?
00:49:16
give it a .5, but just cause the supernatural stuff not really scary to me and honestly the first time I watched this was already when I was kind of passed, I was kind of already
00:49:28
desensitized, but I do see how some of the jump scares could be scary.
00:49:34
What about you?
00:49:35
I gave it a two.
00:49:38
Right out the gate, the scene with Edith as a kid and the mom's hand drapes over her.
00:49:44
Like, it wasn't even the jumpy that got me.
00:49:46
It was just like, that's really fucking creepy.
00:49:47
I don't like that at all.
00:49:50
And it's just like, you know, the vibes were just a little spooky.
00:49:54
Yeah.
00:49:56
How sexy did you think it was?
00:49:58
I gave it a four.
00:50:00
That is very unsurprising.
00:50:03
Yeah, it's just got, it's all vibes, you know?
00:50:08
It's got a little of everything.
00:50:10
It hit the gothic nail on the head.
00:50:13
uh Incest?
00:50:17
Not ideal.
00:50:19
Cast?
00:50:20
Immaculate.
00:50:23
Had there not been incest?
00:50:24
Had the incest not been a part of it?
00:50:26
Could have been a vibe.
00:50:28
Yeah.
00:50:29
And the cold.
00:50:30
If it had been a little less cold.
00:50:33
See, think cold is kind of sexy.
00:50:34
Because you have to like cuddle up, you know?
00:50:38
freezing torrential snow.
00:50:41
Yeah, that's fair.
00:50:43
Like, you know, like Pacific Northwest cold, cozy vibes.
00:50:48
Yeah.
00:50:49
What'd you give it?
00:50:51
I only give it a two.
00:50:53
But this is because it makes sense for you.
00:50:57
There aren't even any monsters, not a single monster in this movie.
00:51:01
That's not the only thing you find sexy, Katie.
00:51:04
Fine.
00:51:06
Period pieces are not sexy to me, they're sexy to you.
00:51:09
I do like a period piece.
00:51:11
It's just not the vibe for me.
00:51:12
But the like colors and set vibes, sure.
00:51:17
And the cast.
00:51:18
So I gave it like a couple points for that.
00:51:21
Yeah.
00:51:22
if you gave it a couple points it would be a 2.5.
00:51:25
So you gave it a point and a half.
00:51:27
couple half points for that.
00:51:31
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:51:33
I give it a 1.5.
00:51:36
I gave it a little bump here and there for the incest that she mentioned.
00:51:43
And also, the stabbing in the armpit didn't even bother me.
00:51:47
The part that I was like, oh no, was when she's slicing at her hand in the elevator and she just keeps going at it.
00:51:56
I was like, okay, we've had enough, calm down.
00:51:59
But, but would you agree with me that had she been doing that with a pen it would have been even worse?
00:52:07
Well, maybe on the hand actually a knife is kind of worse.
00:52:10
Yeah, on the hand when she's like slicing it like that, definitely the knife.
00:52:14
Yeah, I didn't actually watch that part, so.
00:52:17
Great.
00:52:18
Yeah.
00:52:20
Anyway, I gave it a two.
00:52:22
It wasn't like the most groundbreakingly fucked up thing we've seen.
00:52:26
But there were some parts that made me uncomfortable.
00:52:28
The armpit, I was live tweeting you.
00:52:31
I live tweeted you the word armpit, followed very closely by the word cheek.
00:52:37
Yeah, there's a lot of stopping happening all at once for you.
00:52:42
There was a very comfortable amount of stabbing until that part.
00:52:47
None until then.
00:52:48
Right.
00:52:49
None and then all.
00:52:51
All right, overall, what did you think of Crimson Peak?
00:52:55
Well, thank you for asking.
00:52:56
I do think that there's some merit to this film.
00:53:01
Could it have been better?
00:53:03
Yes.
00:53:04
Some of the acting was a little clunky.
00:53:07
The digital effects were terrible.
00:53:11
I found myself longing for the practical effects of Pan's Labyrinth.
00:53:16
That's kind of what I was expecting.
00:53:19
But was it fun to watch?
00:53:19
Also, yes.
00:53:21
I loved the cast, the concept was fine, if a little overdone.
00:53:25
I gave it a 3 out of 5.
00:53:28
Valid.
00:53:29
Thank you.
00:53:29
Number two.
00:53:32
Yeah, the special effects are not great, but like I said, it kind of fits the vibe of it for me, so it doesn't take me out too much.
00:53:42
This is in the category of movies that I really, really, with all my heart, want to like more than I do.
00:53:51
I still like it.
00:53:53
It's still fun.
00:53:53
I gave it a 3.5, but like, I wanna love it.
00:53:59
You know, like there's just so many aspects of this that I'm like, I could love it.
00:54:04
But at the end of the day, there's just something missing for me.
00:54:08
And I think it's like a little bit of a lot of things, you know what I mean?
00:54:12
It's just not all coming together for me.
00:54:14
But I do still think it's a fun movie.
00:54:17
If you want a gothic supernatural horror movie, go for it, right?
00:54:23
You're going to get exactly what you want from it.
00:54:25
Maybe not exactly, but you're going to get what you want.
00:54:28
and a little incest.
00:54:30
and a little stuff that you don't want, but what are you gonna do, you know?
00:54:34
And I just, love Del Toro, and he can make any movie and I'll watch it, so.
00:54:40
We need to watch more of his, because this is only our second film of his, or third technically.
00:54:45
If you can't wreck, right?
00:54:47
He worked on wreck.
00:54:48
I don't think so.
00:54:50
no, well, somebody named Guillermo.
00:54:57
There was a guy named Guillermo at some point.
00:55:00
I think it's the, okay, I think this movie is the first movie in a long time where Del Toro didn't work with the cinematographer, Guillermo something.
00:55:11
yeah, he works.
00:55:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:55:13
And that guy did wreck.
00:55:17
Maybe.
00:55:18
I don't know.
00:55:18
I'm just making shit up.
00:55:20
Don't quote me on any of that.
00:55:22
Yeah, none of that.
00:55:23
That was part of our maybe fake facts section.
00:55:26
Yeah
00:55:28
He has, he was a producer on The Orphanage, which we watched.
00:55:34
So yeah, would be Wiz in Spanish.
00:55:38
It was,
00:55:40
I think this is the first
00:55:43
movie you directed that we've watched though, right?
00:55:46
Yes.
00:55:49
Yeah, I don't know.
00:55:49
He has some that...
00:55:51
He has more that we can definitely watch.
00:55:53
um But some of his movies are not...
00:55:56
Like, he'll deal with monsters, but like, Shape of Water is not a horror movie, you know what mean?
00:55:59
There's a monster in it, but it's not a horror movie.
00:56:05
It's a Merman movie, first of all.
00:56:09
I love that for me.
00:56:11
Yeah, you, yeah, it's right up your alley.
00:56:14
You would love that.
00:56:15
I think Pan's Labyrinth is classified as horror in some places, but it doesn't feel horror to me.
00:56:21
Yeah.
00:56:23
I guess there's horror element.
00:56:25
The Pale Man is the scariest thing in that movie.
00:56:29
Yeah, Doug Jones, my love.
00:56:32
But we've also both seen that and I've been trying to pick movies that one or both of us have not seen, so.
00:56:39
But yeah, we'll get more del Toro in the future for sure.
00:56:42
Hooray.
00:56:43
Alright, would you survive?
00:56:45
Yeah, I loved the house.
00:56:49
The house was amazing, but the second I realized that there wasn't a roof, I'm out.
00:56:57
Yeah, especially in such a cold climate.
00:56:59
Like I have to be warm at night.
00:57:01
I usually like scald myself in the shower so that my body is overheating by the time I get into into bed so that I'm so fucking warm.
00:57:10
I'll never be cold again.
00:57:12
So
00:57:14
Any chance that I'm cold at night?
00:57:17
It's just that I'm taking two steps inside that house and then turning right back around.
00:57:21
And so I live.
00:57:23
Yeah, I mean, she lives anyway.
00:57:25
The main character does.
00:57:28
I don't think I would survive that fall from the balcony.
00:57:31
I wouldn't want to live after that.
00:57:33
It's embarrassing.
00:57:36
I'm embarrassed,
00:57:37
Yeah, imagine you have to flip over a banister.
00:57:42
Yeah, that would be rough.
00:57:45
Yeah, how about you?
00:57:47
I think so, but I think it's because I'm not marrying a man I met like a week ago.
00:57:51
That's crazy.
00:57:53
And yeah, I'm also not moving to a place that's cold.
00:57:57
That's not for me.
00:57:59
With or without a roof, to be honest.
00:58:02
So yeah, I think I'm good.
00:58:05
All right, cool, well, that's Crimson Peak.
00:58:08
I hope it at least scratched the gothic itch for you, even though it wasn't your favorite movie ever.
00:58:13
no, it absolutely did.
00:58:14
Thank you.
00:58:14
It absolutely scratched the itch.
00:58:17
It hit the nail on the proverbial head.
00:58:19
Yeah, the proverbial armpit.
00:58:22
All right, cool.
00:58:24
Well, kind of change in plans if you are an avid listener.
00:58:28
I know at the beginning of the month we did say that our new movie this month was going to be him.
00:58:33
Recent reviews have swayed us, so we are going to switch gears.
00:58:38
And next week we're going to talk about The Long Walk instead.
00:58:42
So I don't think we need to predict the plot, right?
00:58:45
Like we both kind of know the premise and what it's about.
00:58:48
Yeah.
00:58:48
but walking.
00:58:51
And Luke Skywalker's in it.
00:58:53
Mark Hamill is in it, yes.
00:58:55
Yeah, I'm excited.
00:58:57
Great, yeah, villain.
00:58:59
Love that for him.
00:59:02
Yeah, it's gonna be amazing.
00:59:03
I'm excited.
00:59:05
It's in our best interest to not watch him.
00:59:09
Yeah, look, who knows?
00:59:10
Maybe we would have watched it and loved it, and I'm still gonna go see it, but we've watched enough clunkers in theaters.
00:59:18
We don't need to do that to ourselves anymore.
00:59:20
yeah, I'm not paying for a clunk.
00:59:22
Exactly.
00:59:23
Alright, so next week, The Long Walk.
00:59:27
You've had plenty of time to see it.
00:59:28
If you haven't seen it, go see it now so you can listen along next week.
00:59:33
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00:59:34
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00:59:36
Tell us in the comments what places you don't want to be stabbed in.
00:59:42
And by blunt or knife uh instrument.
00:59:46
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00:59:49
Great, wow, thank you.
00:59:51
Thank you!
00:59:52
Wow, okay, bye, you then.
00:59:56
Bye.