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Hello.
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Hello, happy Tuesday.
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Happy Tuesday indeed.
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It's the second Tuesday of September.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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Hooray!
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Hooray!
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We're here this week to talk about.
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The Ritual.
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Yes, nailed it!
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Yeah, I forgot.
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It's not written anywhere on my notes.
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don't have, oh, that's at the top of my notes.
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yeah, mine's still called Untitled Document.
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That's crazy.
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This is episode 137, Katie.
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Well.
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Is it a requirement for me to be a part of a podcast?
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To have the title of the movie be the name of the document that I use to take notes?
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No, the title of my document, I don't change it every time.
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I use the same one, but it's...
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document for every episode you have 135 movies notes on one document.
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No, I just delete it.
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And then I...
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that's crazy.
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I have to keep my notes.
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What if I need them?
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So I have 135 documents in my Google library, just in case.
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What could you possibly need your documents for?
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I don't know, maybe we can like sell them to our Patreon subscribers or something.
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I don't know.
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Well, you're not getting mine, sorry folks.
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I just have to go and make copies of every version history I have of every...
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Anyway.
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We will talk about the ritual today.
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We will.
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That is, it's in our plan.
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But first.
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Yes.
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We have a game.
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Hooray, I know nothing about it.
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I told you what it was.
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Sorta, I didn't understand and I also forgot by now.
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You know what?
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It actually makes sense why you keep all your notes.
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Just in case.
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You keep all of them, you've never referenced them once though.
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You could literally tell me anything that I said and I would believe you because one, I don't think you would ever lie to me.
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And two, I don't fucking remember.
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It'd be so easy to gaslight me.
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That's valid.
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I wouldn't.
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Thank you for knowing I wouldn't.
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Yeah, I feel like I could.
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I could be like, oh, do you remember in episode five when you said you hate me?
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And you'd be like, no, why would I say that?
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That's crazy.
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Things have changed 130 episodes later, I promise.
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I know I did back then.
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Oh shit.
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Alright, we're playing a game.
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We're doing a movie grid.
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Never even heard of it.
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Well, you're about to have your mind blown.
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All right, this is a movie grid.
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this is easy.
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What are those?
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What are those numbers though?
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I tried to do easy ones to start, because this is the first time we've done a movie grid.
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So for the folks who are just listening, it's basically a three by three grid.
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And on the left hand column, there's categories.
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So the first category is Ari Aster as the director.
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The middle column or line.
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Row.
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row, thank you, is a female director.
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So some movie that was directed by a woman.
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And the last line is Jordan Peele movies.
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So the top and bottom kind of easy because they only have like three horror movies each.
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I'm keeping it, I'm keeping it low key for a little bit.
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Next one will be so hard you'll cry.
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And then the columns from left to right are
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It features a final girl.
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I am gonna keep a pretty loose definition of that.
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She does not have to be the only survivor, but it does have to feature a woman at the end who is alive.
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The middle column is, that's just a girl.
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There's a girl who lives.
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Boom, bam, bop.
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Okay, got it, okay.
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I put a cross through final.
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Girl.
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The middle column is Academy Award-winning actor.
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So there has to be someone who has won an Oscar in the cast.
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Yep, got it.
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Easy.
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I never would have guessed that's what AWAS stands for.
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I didn't want to type it all out.
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The last column is it has to have above an 85 % critic score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Yes.
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The numbers are just the points you get.
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So there's 60 total points and there's less points for the easier ones, more points for the hard ones.
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So how this is going to work though, you have to call out the row and the column that you are answering for.
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You can't just say a movie and have me place it.
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You have to say what you're doing it for because there's some of them that could go in multiple.
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There's some that could only go in one.
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And if you answer another one for it, you could lose out on another point.
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You know what I mean?
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You can't use the same movie twice and you can't change your answer.
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Once you've answered, it's locked in.
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Okay, all right.
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Okay, yep, okay, this is, yeah, I got it.
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Okay.
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I have to, so I have to come up with the movies?
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You're not gonna feed me movies?
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No, you have to figure it out.
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That's why the first and the last rows are so e- there's only three movies each.
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So the middle one's the one you're gonna have to reach for, which is why there's the most points.
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If you need hints, I'll give them to you, but...
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Yeah.
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oh
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I'm gonna have a really hard time with the middle row.
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should say these are all movies that we have done episodes on, so if you want to reference our list, that's fine, you can do that.
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Yeah, we have our episode guide.
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Okay.
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All right.
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I'm ready.
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So first, I have to figure out what movies I don't think I'm going to be able to I don't think I know what movies are female directors.
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That one's, yeah, it's gonna be more difficult.
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Yeah.
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Ari Aster.
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I think I know Ari Aster's films.
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Yeah, Beau Is Afraid is one of those.
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And Joaquin Phoenix has won an Academy Award for his portrayal of the man in black himself, Johnny Cash.
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I know that for a fact.
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I'm pretty sure he was nominated for that, he didn't win.
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Okay, well, he's probably won an Academy Award for something.
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It may not have been that.
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That feels like a good.
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of safe bet.
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Okay.
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You tell me when you're ready to go, when you're locked in, okay?
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Okay.
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when I'm locked.
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What other movies is Ari Aster done?
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Barbarian?
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Is that Ari Aster?
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No.
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yeah.
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Hereditary.
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Mm-hmm.
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Hereditary Academy Award winning
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What's your face has had to have won an Academy Award?
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The mom.
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Tony Collette.
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Toni Collette.
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I guess I shouldn't tell you until you've locked in, because then I can just give it away.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Okay, I know, Beau is Afraid is not over 85 % of Rotten Tomatoes.
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People were very split on that film.
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It was a little divisive.
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Yeah, divisive, divisive.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, there's also not a final girl.
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in Beau is Afraid?
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There's a boy, sort of, but he dies too.
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Well, the mom dies too.
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Everybody dies.
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Okay.
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Locking in Ari Aster, Academy Award winning actor, Beau is Afraid.
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Are you going to tell me if I'm right?
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Hooray!
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Wait, so, okay.
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Amazing.
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Wait, how did you do that?
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separate thing where I have all the answers and I just copy paste what I need to put them on there.
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That's why it's not in like presentation mode because I have to be able to edit it.
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Beau is afraid Joaquin Phoenix won Best Actor for Joker.
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yes, yes.
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Batman movie.
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Yeah, Toni Collette was nominated for Sixth Sense.
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She did not win.
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I didn't know she was in the Sixth Sense.
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Yeah, she plays the mom.
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That checks out.
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And also Florence Pugh was ah nominated.
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That's a hint for you.
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But she did not win either.
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Interesting.
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ah Why?
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What?
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What hint is that?
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Well, I think, I think hereditary.
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You're trying to figure out the movies.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, yeah, yes.
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Yes, that is the final girl.
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That's the Ari Aster final girl, Midsummer.
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Ari Aster final girl, Midsummer final, yes.
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Yeah.
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Which leaves Hereditary over 85 % on Rotten Tomatoes Ari Aster.
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Hereditary is the only Ari Aster that is over 85 % critic score.
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okay, Jordan Peele, Final Girl I forget what it's called.
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I know what it's about.
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is about racism.
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think all of them are kind of about racism for him.
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Yeah.
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Okay, Academy Award winning actor Jordan Peele is us.
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Locking in.
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Locked in.
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Oh, sorry, here.
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Yes.
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It's because it could have gone either way.
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Okay, okay.
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Technically, Us is his only movie that would have worked in every category.
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people like that one too.
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It is over 85%.
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It does have a final girl in which I would count because she does live to the end.
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And Lupita Nyong'o has won Best Supporting Actress.
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Yeah.
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So now he's got two other movies and you've got to figure out which one goes where because they can't go both.
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Yeah, I gotta figure out.
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I mean, I know.
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I just gotta remember what the fuck they're called.
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Okay, nope.
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Nope is over 85%.
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Rotten Tomatoes Jordan Peele.
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Locking in.
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Incorrect.
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It is at 84%.
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That's fucking crazy.
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There's a final girl in it?
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Kiki Palmer.
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you're so right.
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I mean, there's a girl, she's a girl.
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She lives.
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She's not final.
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Other people live.
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literally specified at the beginning of the round.
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I know, but it's not final girl, it's just girl.
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It's just Girl Who Lives.
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Okay, so do I get the five points for putting nope on final girl Jordan Peele?
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Yeah, I'll give it to you.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Hooray, okay.
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All right, female director, final girl.
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Oh, I know, I know, female director, final girl, Jennifer's body.
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Are you locking that in?
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Wait.
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Okay?
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Female Director, Final Girl.
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Lisa Frankenstein locked in.
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We'll give it to you, even though technically she dies, but she's resurrected.
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So I think we can count it.
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I will count Lisa Frankenstein for final girl.
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Girl, there's a girl.
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Girl.
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Girl who lives, that's the category.
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Female director, Academy Award winning actor, Jennifer's body.
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Who's the Academy Award winning actor in that?
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Hmm, no.
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No?
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She does not win an Oscar.
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Do you want to lock that in though?
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Are you good with that?
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No, because that's who I thought would have won.
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okay.
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You don't have to know who won, you just have to lock it in.
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But I don't think anybody else in that movie has won an Academy Award.
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Unless what his face has?
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Chris.
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Crisp rat?
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No.
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Rat.
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Shoot.
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Well, let's do it.
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Let's do Jennifer's Body Academy Award-winning actor, female director.
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Locked in.
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Hell yeah.
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Oh my God, he is.
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J.K.
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Simmons has won Best Supporting, I believe, and he plays their teacher.
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That's why I was like, so to be clear, I am pretty sure Jennifer's Body is the only movie we have talked about that is directed by a woman and features an Oscar winner.
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So that's I kind of was like, are you sure?
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Like, that's why I wanted you to think about it, because I was like, if you put Jennifer's Body anywhere else, it would not.
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Yeah.
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I just knew from I knew Lisa Frankenstein did not have anybody in it that was Academy Award winning.
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Just my heart told me that.
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Jennifer's body was made in a time in which they required.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, which is fair because Lisa's Frankenstein is still new, so I feel like it's a fresher-faced cast.
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Whereas people who are in Jennifer's body have had time to do that.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Fair.
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So fair.
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Okay.
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m
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sure you have three movies that are options for the last one.
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Okay, I don't remember.
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Oh, oh, but this critic score.
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critics score.
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And I'll give you three guesses to get it.
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Okay, that's amazing.
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Thank you.
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okay, I feel like Night Bitch was directed by a woman.
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but does not have over 85 % on Rotten Tomatoes.
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So we'll throw that out.
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Okay.
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Shoot, I genuinely cannot think of another film that was directed by a woman and that would be what
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Name a woman.
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I'm just thinking of that, Name a woman.
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For a dollar, name a woman.
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My thing with this is that I feel like if I tell you the movies, you're gonna immediately know which ones could even possibly be versus not.
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yeah.
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Don't.
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Oh, wait.
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she's got it.
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Could it be the Babadook?
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Would you like to lock that in as a guess?
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oh
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I get three?
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three guesses.
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Okay, yes, the Babadook.
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I would like to lock that in.
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The Babadook was directed by a woman.
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huh.
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The critics hated it.
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No, I'm kidding.
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Of course it's the bubba-doo!
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Yay!
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Wow, that wasn't as hard as I thought it was gonna be.
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No, it wasn't.
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See, you nailed it.
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I think your three options for that were the Babadook, Bodies, Bodies, Bodies, and Raw, the cannibal one from France.
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See, I would have thought...
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I would have thought bodies, bodies, bodies had.
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wait, so all three of those would have worked.
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All three of those would have, yes, they are all over 85.
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The other ones that wouldn't have worked would be Night Bitch, Fresh, New Year in New You, Five Nights at Freddy's, The Watchers.
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Mm-hmm.
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Twas.
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Yeah, Fresh is, I think the other, was it Fresh?
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There was another one that was at 85 % too.
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And I was like, my gosh.
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If she guesses, I'll feel bad.
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Yeah, that would have been brutal.
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Wow, amazing.
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Well, sorry.
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Sorry, Jordan.
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I thought I thought people like nope as much as I do.
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Yeah, it's Get Out.
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That's the only...
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Well, no, actually Us is the one that would have worked for all three.
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Any of them would have worked for Academy Award-winning actor because Daniel Kalu...
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Yeah, Daniel Kaluha has won Best Actor or Best Supporting?
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One of the two.
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And then...
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Nope, only would have worked for Final Girl and Academy Award.
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Get Out only would have worked for Academy Award in over 85.
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You got 55 points out of 60 though.
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That's pretty good.
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That's pretty good.
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I agree.
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Wow, thank you.
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I want to make one for you and it's gonna be really fucking hard.
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I don't like this game anymore.
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good.
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Okay.
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Yeah, I've seen people do movie grids on the TikTok before and it looks fun.
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So I was like, I want to try it.
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It actually took kind of a long time to like find categories that would we had movies for for everything.
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So
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We only have so many movies.
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So.
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That's true.
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Yeah.
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One of my, one of my categories is going to be Justin Long.
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Tusk.
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Weapons.
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Barbarian.
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Now I can't use that anymore.
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Alright, well, that was so fun.
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Thank you for setting that up for us.
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That was so fun.
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I like knowing things about movies.
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Makes me feel like I'm here for the right reasons.
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Yeah.
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All right, should we talk about the ritual?
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I think so.
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Okay, to be clear, we are talking about the 2017 one, not the one that came out this year, which has a 9 % on Rotten Tomatoes.
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It did really bad.
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Yeah, me too.
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It was, I don't think it is anymore.
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Yeah.
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Anyways, we're not talking about that clunker.
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We're talking about the Netflix one.
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Yeah.
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Is it a clunker though?
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You're you'll find out right now.
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Yeah.
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35 minutes.
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Exactly.
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you'll know.
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Okay, I'll give us a little summary, a little debrief of the ritual.
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Reuniting after the tragic death of their friend, four college pals set out to hike through the Scandinavian wilderness.
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A wrong turn leads them into the mysterious forest of Norse legend where an ancient evil exists and stalks them at every turn.
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This is a 2017 film directed by David Bruckner and written by Joe Barton.
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It stars Rafe Spall, Arshir Ali, Robert James Collier, and Sam Troughton.
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It had about a $1 million budget from what we could find, not for sure though, and made around $1.5 million at the box office and $4.75 million from a sale to Netflix.
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It has a 6.4 out of 10 on IMDB and a 3.2 out of 5 on Letterboxd and a 74 % critics and 63 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Thanks.
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Yeah, people enjoy it.
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Did you, by chance, read the IMDB, like, little plot summary for this movie?
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No, I did not.
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I got that from Google.
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Thank you, Google.
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Yeah, I knew you did because when I thought I was doing it, I also wrote that same one from Google.
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the one on IMDB, says, group of old college friends reunite for a trip to the most dangerous country in Europe, Sweden.
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Hahaha
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Which is not true.
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Sweden is not even top ten most dangerous countries in Europe.
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I don't know why that's what's there, but I thought that that was very funny, so...
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Was this a comedy film?
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dangerous for them.
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Did you find it funny?
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Oh great, no, you weren't supposed to.
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No, think it, well, so IMDB is basically like Wikipedia where people edit it.
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So I think, I don't know, someone must've just edited it and no one cared to change it, I guess, I don't know.
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I just the other day used IMDB for the first time as a contributor to add our Killer Cuties exclusive fact about the weapons with the whale thing.
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very exciting.
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Yeah, go listen to the episode on weapons for that exclusive killer cuties fact.
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You won't find it anywhere else except right now in IMDB because she added it.
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Yeah.
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And then go to IMDB and write it helpful.
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uh
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Yeah, I don't know if you can do that with goofs.
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It's a goo.
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It's under goofs.
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It's not under fun facts.
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It's under goofs.
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Well, no you can't, but that's okay.
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Anyway.
00:21:32
Well, okay, we're not talking about that movie, though.
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We're talking about The Ritual, 2017.
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We are.
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I didn't know this was based on a book.
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did I?
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I added it to my TBR, though.
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it to my TBR as well.
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Okay, and hold to answer.
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Is there any other way?
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Can't imagine.
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Great.
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The novel though is written by Adam Neville.
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from 2011.
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and
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The production company for this movie is called The Imaginarium.
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They bought the rights to the book, and that company is owned by Andy Serkis.
00:22:11
ah I just love him
00:22:15
Yeah, Gollum himself.
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fun.
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Very cool.
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Yeah.
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There were some differences between the book and the film.
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For one, the little old lady witch in the book has hooves instead of feet.
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And so she has really loud footsteps.
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Hooves.
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Which I think you can still hear the hooves.
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Now I can't say it right.
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The hooves in the film adaptation, it just doesn't like show it.
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You just hear like clomping.
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Yeah.
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Weirdly.
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kind of like a fun touch, I guess.
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They're like, we're not going to do it, for those who read it, that one's for you.
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Yeah.
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Also in the novel and probably the screenplay because a lot of the like fun facts refer to this.
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The creature's name is Moder, which is
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which is Norse for mother.
00:23:15
Mm-hmm.
00:23:17
In the movie, it said that the creature is son of Loki.
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But in the novel, it's female.
00:23:26
Yeah.
00:23:27
I will be calling it Moder.
00:23:29
Yeah, that's fair.
00:23:31
That's her name.
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Her name.
00:23:37
While we're talking about her, let's talk about her.
00:23:41
There were a lot of scenes that I missed, apparently, where you can see her eyes.
00:23:47
Mm.
00:23:48
I kind of want to go back.
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I did see the hand around the tree.
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A lot of people missed that one, but I missed, I guess, according to the internet.
00:24:00
Right?
00:24:01
It zooms in on it.
00:24:03
Did it?
00:24:05
Oh.
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he's staring at it, it like zooms in and gets closer so you can see it.
00:24:09
And then it gets taken away, which also.
00:24:13
Oh, sorry.
00:24:15
OK.
00:24:16
You should be.
00:24:18
That part is very creepy, but I'm also like it's Moder's quite the size Lee Queen.
00:24:27
How did all he see was the hand?
00:24:31
I feel like you would have seen more.
00:24:33
It does show it like yeah, it shows it like moving away after that, but you'd think you'd see more of it because it wasn't a super dense forest.
00:24:44
No, and I think they were aspens if I remember correctly.
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And you can tell it's an aspen because of the way it is.
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If I had to put money on you knowing what type of tree it was, I would.
00:24:57
Well, I know what Aspens look like.
00:24:59
I just don't remember if that's what it was in the movie.
00:25:02
Yeah, I am not a tree identifier, so I wouldn't.
00:25:07
Yeah.
00:25:08
I mean, I'm not either.
00:25:10
I do know what an aspen looks like.
00:25:13
Anyway.
00:25:14
so many fun facts about Moder.
00:25:16
Yeah, keep him coming.
00:25:19
Oh, I don't know you s- Okay.
00:25:23
Okay.
00:25:24
Well, Keith Thompson was the creature designer on this film.
00:25:28
He works regularly with Guillermo del Toro, most notably on Don't Be Afraid of the Dark and the upcoming Frankenstein, which comes out this year.
00:25:37
That's the one that's Jacob Elordi, Mia Goth and Oscar Isaac.
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He was also the
00:25:45
Concept designer and artist on Slenderman, The Rings of Powers, speaking of Lord of the Rings, VHS 85, The First Omen, and yeah, the Frankenstein movie that's coming up.
00:25:59
He's been on a lot of stuff.
00:26:01
I wonder if no VHS 85 was after.
00:26:07
Yeah, because...
00:26:10
David Bruckner directed and produced.
00:26:15
Yeah, well, and he did a segment for VHS 85 too.
00:26:18
He did one in the original and then I think he produced two others, but then he did another segment, directed one for VHS 85.
00:26:27
So I wonder if he helped.
00:26:29
He did total copy.
00:26:31
I think the one that...
00:26:32
I think the one that Keith Thompson did was like amateur or something something about amateur.
00:26:40
Oh, no, you're thinking of Amateur Night from the original, which is David Bruckner again.
00:26:47
Yeah, David Bruckner did Amateur Night in the original VHS and then wrote and helped produce Siren, which is a spinoff on that segment.
00:26:56
And then, yeah, he did the total copy in VHS 85.
00:27:04
Yeah.
00:27:05
They all sort of like know each other.
00:27:07
I wondered my first thought was whether the Rings of Power had anything to do with Imaginarium.
00:27:15
Oh.
00:27:15
because Andy Serkis, Lord of the Rings, you know.
00:27:21
Right?
00:27:22
Yeah.
00:27:23
Who's to say?
00:27:23
Tell us in the comments if you know.
00:27:25
Please.
00:27:27
Throughout the film, Moder is one of two things.
00:27:33
Either you just see the head and the head is interacting with people or the whole body.
00:27:39
The whole body is done digitally.
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That's for like complex scenes or far away shots.
00:27:46
And then there was a full-size practical head also with a performer inside.
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and the performer maneuvered the face arms, you know, the ones, yeah.
00:27:59
That was obviously close-up scenes where Moder is interacting with another actor.
00:28:07
And the director said that the vibes on set just completely changed whenever the practical was rolled out on set because it gave everybody something to be up against, essentially.
00:28:20
Yeah, I imagine it's much easier to give a believable performance when you have something to act with.
00:28:31
Yeah, as opposed to just the concept art.
00:28:36
right, or just like a tennis ball that you have to track with, you know?
00:28:41
That's the one thing about like Avatar.
00:28:44
Like how are any of those people acting when everybody's wearing those goofy suits and they have like light bulbs all over their bodies?
00:28:51
Or like when you see the behind the scenes of like Marvel movies and it's just them in costume around green.
00:28:57
It's like, how is that fun or dynamic or interesting?
00:29:02
Exactly.
00:29:03
Yeah.
00:29:06
feel like acting's gotten probably less fun over the years.
00:29:09
Yeah, the more digital we get, the less.
00:29:12
Poor Marvel actors, man, they just can't catch a break.
00:29:15
Seriously, their jobs must be so hard.
00:29:20
I'm so glad they get paid millions upon millions of dollars to do their hard jobs.
00:29:26
Yeah, if any of them want to take a break, you know, I'll tap in.
00:29:28
I'll tap in for a couple mil.
00:29:30
You just let me know.
00:29:32
Yeah, you and James Wan selling out for superhero movies.
00:29:37
And I do it with him too.
00:29:39
Me and James Wan hanging out together.
00:29:43
I would give anything to hang out with James Wan.
00:29:50
Anyway, that's about Moder.
00:29:52
Yeah, I heard too that Bruckner said the beast design that they finally settled on was the one that, because I guess they had a bunch of different designs that they were thinking of
00:30:02
and the one they ended up going with was just the one that he just couldn't stop staring at.
00:30:07
He's like, I just couldn't take my eyes off it.
00:30:09
We knew that it was, there was something special there.
00:30:11
So
00:30:12
She's very uncanny.
00:30:14
Yeah, I think it's a really cool monster design.
00:30:17
It's not really something you see that often.
00:30:20
Although people have said that it looks...
00:30:23
great!
00:30:24
Yeah.
00:30:25
When I did my Hear Me Out presentation, Moder was on there.
00:30:29
I'm just gonna say that.
00:30:31
Yeah, she definitely was.
00:30:33
I just get it.
00:30:34
There's something there.
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there is something there.
00:30:38
I think it's the face arms.
00:30:41
It might be the face arms, yeah.
00:30:44
And just the regal stature, I think.
00:30:48
And wood, you know, nature.
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nature camp.
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Like in the, in the, yeah, in a sense.
00:30:57
Yeah.
00:30:58
People have pointed out that Moder's design is kind of similar to Leshy's, which is a Slavic mythology creature.
00:31:06
It's like a forest spirit.
00:31:10
I looked it up.
00:31:11
I can see what they're talking about.
00:31:13
I don't think it's super similar besides the fact that it has antlers and wood.
00:31:19
But I guess, you know, when you're trying to...
00:31:23
whole similar things.
00:31:24
I could see why people thought of that.
00:31:26
Have you seen Princess Mononoke?
00:31:29
Have I?
00:31:30
Yeah, the deer.
00:31:32
Yeah.
00:31:34
Great film.
00:31:35
they're yeah, of course the music for that movie fucking slaps.
00:31:39
I mean, yeah, the whole thing.
00:31:40
But the music.
00:31:42
That's one of those ones where if it ever came to town and they were playing the soundtrack live like a live orchestra playing to I would go I would just cry and embarrass
00:31:50
everybody around me.
00:31:51
Okay.
00:31:53
Anyway, yeah, that was that's also very like uncanny.
00:31:57
Like, why do you have that face in that place?
00:32:03
Yeah.
00:32:05
Yeah.
00:32:06
I used to have nightmares about glowing eyes places.
00:32:11
So like the glowing eyes thing.
00:32:13
Did that bother you a little?
00:32:14
A little it was a little bothersome.
00:32:16
Yes
00:32:17
yeah, that's fair.
00:32:19
Yeah, just kind of spooky vibes, you know, just kind of spooky.
00:32:23
Yeah, that's very atmospheric.
00:32:27
Mm-hmm.
00:32:28
not related to Moder, but related to music, which you were just talking about.
00:32:33
Ben Lovett did the music for this movie.
00:32:37
And he said that on the plane ride to London to work on it, he watched The Witch.
00:32:43
It kind of helped him get into that mindset.
00:32:46
He was like, yeah, yeah, just very kind of like folky and the general aesthetic of the movie, he said, was kind of, you know.
00:32:54
remote.
00:32:55
Yeah.
00:32:56
vibes.
00:32:58
Yeah.
00:33:00
camping.
00:33:00
Camping.
00:33:01
Yeah, you have to say the whole thing.
00:33:03
Yeah, this is our third movie in pretty recent history with a scary tent scene.
00:33:09
Well, it's our second, but we talked about a third one, but we haven't done an episode on oddity.
00:33:17
Yeah, we watched that together because I watched it and liked it and wanted everybody to watch it, but we've never done an episode on it.
00:33:25
That director has another movie coming out soon.
00:33:28
really?
00:33:29
I think so.
00:33:30
I could be making it up.
00:33:32
It didn't sound confident when you said I think so, so.
00:33:35
Let me know.
00:33:36
It's called Hocum.
00:33:39
It's a supernatural horror film written and directed by Damian McCarthy and starring Adam Scott.
00:33:44
It's set in Ireland and it's m
00:33:47
out?
00:33:48
Neon acquired it in August.
00:33:51
The company will handle international sales at the 2025 international.
00:33:55
Oh, it'll release theatrically in the United States sometime in 2026.
00:33:59
How fun!
00:34:00
Yeah, supernatural horror filmed in Ireland and set in Ireland.
00:34:05
That feels like his vibe.
00:34:07
Yeah, I'm super excited about it.
00:34:09
Yeah, I liked Oddity a lot.
00:34:11
But yeah, we talked about that in our episode of Weapons.
00:34:14
Between Oddity and Weapons, I'm never going camping.
00:34:17
Add this one in, Trifecta.
00:34:19
It's just not happening.
00:34:22
Tents are scary, man.
00:34:24
Yeah, I'm just surprised that like that's a recurring theme in horror.
00:34:31
I mean, three out of 135 movies is like not nothing.
00:34:37
Well, okay.
00:34:37
Yeah.
00:34:38
Three out of 136 movies.
00:34:41
What if this is when I just confess that I've just been slipping in scary tent movie scenes so that you never ask me to go camping?
00:34:50
I'm propagandizing you.
00:34:52
Yeah, if you could have known that about weapons, I might even believe that you were doing it.
00:34:59
Yeah, there's no way I could have known.
00:35:01
Yeah.
00:35:02
No, nothing will ever be as scary as the tent scene in oddity.
00:35:06
That was so fucking scary.
00:35:08
It was a very good jumpscare.
00:35:10
Yeah.
00:35:11
Anyway, back to this movie.
00:35:13
Yeah.
00:35:15
More about Ben Lovett, the composer.
00:35:18
I've got some fun facts about him and his composition.
00:35:22
I would love to hear it.
00:35:24
he preparing to write for this movie, he listened to old Nordic folk tunes and different types of calling, which is an ancient Swedish herding call that women would do to call
00:35:38
cows in from pasture as like inspiration.
00:35:42
And then he also used a 100 year old reed organ in a few scenes, which he said really added to the distance of the score because
00:35:51
100 years ago, we didn't have a like standardized international tuning.
00:35:58
So it was like slightly was tuned slightly differently than all of the instruments that the orchestra were.
00:36:04
So it's just sort of like added to the creepiness, you know.
00:36:07
Weird.
00:36:08
oh
00:36:08
Super fun and interesting little tidbit.
00:36:11
Yeah, I have another Ben Lovett thing.
00:36:16
I thought, you know, we'd probably talk about it because of who you are as a person.
00:36:21
So I decided to prepare myself this time.
00:36:25
Love that for me.
00:36:27
Yeah, I love it for both of us.
00:36:28
I feel included this time, you know.
00:36:30
Yeah, of course.
00:36:32
Anyways, he said that when he arrived in London, he discovered that there were more pieces of writing or music that needed to be written than there were calendar days.
00:36:43
So yeah, and he had to write, record, mix and edit.
00:36:49
He had to do the music editing as well, which typically is not his job.
00:36:54
So yeah, basically he had to do two people's jobs in about half the time.
00:37:00
So he said it was a very crazy experience, but he did like doing it.
00:37:05
I forget what other movie he scored.
00:37:07
It was some like very sciencey movie, like space travel-y movie.
00:37:12
I don't remember.
00:37:13
ah But it was like basically 100 % synth.
00:37:17
And he said that this was a good change of pace, complete opposite, mostly orchestral.
00:37:22
Mmm.
00:37:23
But I like him.
00:37:23
liked the soundtrack and this was great.
00:37:25
I think he did a great job.
00:37:26
It captured the atmosphere very well.
00:37:29
Yeah, was it perhaps the signal?
00:37:32
No, did I think it started with this?
00:37:36
Synchronicity, that's the one time travel maybe.
00:37:40
I'm just going through his thing.
00:37:44
science fiction.
00:37:45
Yeah, I've never seen it.
00:37:48
A physicist who invents a time machine.
00:37:51
There you go.
00:37:51
Yeah.
00:37:52
Perfect.
00:37:55
But, fun fact, he has done another movie that we have watched.
00:38:00
Let me guess.
00:38:02
Okay.
00:38:03
I don't know.
00:38:05
I didn't think you were gonna get it, if I'm being honest.
00:38:07
It's a very different vibe.
00:38:09
He did the Wolf of Snow Hollow.
00:38:11
Mm-hmm.
00:38:14
That's also camp.
00:38:16
Forest.
00:38:18
camping.
00:38:18
Not everything that has to do with the woods is camp, Katie.
00:38:23
No one goes camping.
00:38:25
to camp, know, like forest.
00:38:27
I would say more remote wilderness is the vibe.
00:38:31
of both.
00:38:33
Yeah, he he's done a couple other horror movies as well.
00:38:37
With Bruckner.
00:38:39
Have fun.
00:38:40
Yeah, so there's a movie called The Night House which Bruckner directed that he also did and...
00:38:47
Is the night house in a forest?
00:38:49
No, well, it's like a like a house by a lake.
00:38:54
I think there's forest around there.
00:38:56
It is kind of remote vibes.
00:38:58
It's on our list.
00:38:59
We will watch it eventually.
00:39:00
And then he did the reboot of Hellraiser as well that was also directed by David Bruckner.
00:39:08
Yeah.
00:39:10
It's fun.
00:39:11
I feel like Bruckner feels like the type of person who works with similar people throughout projects.
00:39:17
So that's kind of nice.
00:39:19
Wow, so fun.
00:39:20
Very.
00:39:22
The original tagline for this film was they should have gone to Vegas, which sounds sort of innocuous until you realize that this movie came out in 2017, which is when the mass
00:39:37
shooting at a country music festival happened in Vegas.
00:39:41
Yeah.
00:39:43
So they changed it to they should have gone to Ibiza, which makes me wonder if.
00:39:49
Please don't do that.
00:39:51
That's how you say it!
00:39:53
It's a pizza!
00:39:54
like the person who's like, oh, I just went to Spain, just got back from Barcelona.
00:39:59
I'm like, shut the fuck up.
00:40:02
Ibiza is how you say it.
00:40:04
That's
00:40:07
They shot this film in the Carpathian Mountains in Romania, not in Sweden at all.
00:40:14
And that's mainly due to Romania offering tax credits and they have softer labor laws, so they decided to go there instead.
00:40:24
Yeah, a little bit, but it is pretty common practice to go to the place with like the best tax credits.
00:40:31
There's a movie called Cedar Rapids that is about
00:40:35
the city Cedar Rapids in Iowa.
00:40:38
And it was not filmed in Iowa because Iowa does not offer tax credits.
00:40:43
So yeah.
00:40:45
Georgia?
00:40:46
People love making movies in Georgia.
00:40:49
No, I want to say it was filmed in just another Midwest, I want to say like Wisconsin or Michigan or something like that.
00:40:55
They didn't go too crazy with it.
00:40:57
They kept it local, but yeah.
00:41:01
And I feel like they did the same thing with the remake of The Crazies.
00:41:06
I think they filmed some of that in Iowa, but not all of it.
00:41:10
Cute.
00:41:11
Good to know.
00:41:12
those are Iowa fun facts for you guys.
00:41:15
Killer Cutie is exclusive.
00:41:16
Ex- what?
00:41:23
Anyway, yeah, Killer Cutie is exclusive.
00:41:28
Yeah.
00:41:29
Yeah, it really said it.
00:41:31
Yeah.
00:41:32
They also, I guess, a lot of the...
00:41:34
actors that are in it are not Swedish because they weren't in Sweden, right?
00:41:38
So like the people that play the locals were just people who were like Romanian or Danish or English even.
00:41:44
So not a lot of actual Sweden in this movie.
00:41:48
The well and also the actual King's Path in Sweden does not have trees.
00:41:55
It's like hills.
00:41:56
It's rolling grassy hills like Scotland and Austria.
00:42:00
Yeah.
00:42:01
They probably couldn't film in Sweden because it's the most dangerous country in Europe.
00:42:07
It's so...
00:42:09
Don't go to Sweden, you guys.
00:42:10
crazy.
00:42:11
um The cast, speaking of the cast, the little old lady, do you know who like she looks like aged?
00:42:25
Who?
00:42:26
The woman who plays Debbie Downer on SNL.
00:42:30
Rachel Dratch?
00:42:32
I think so.
00:42:34
Am I right?
00:42:36
I don't remember what she looks like anymore.
00:42:40
No, I know what she looks like, the woman in the movie.
00:42:43
pull them up next to each other.
00:42:45
You see?
00:42:46
Yeah, I guess.
00:42:48
Thank you.
00:42:49
Like just add 20, 25 years and then this.
00:42:54
It's definitely the haircut too, that helps.
00:42:59
Yeah, like Rachel Dretch by herself, not really.
00:43:02
With the Debbie Downer haircut?
00:43:04
Yeah, I see it.
00:43:07
Did you know that that's the origin of Debbie Downer?
00:43:12
Isn't that crazy?
00:43:14
The Ritual?
00:43:15
No!
00:43:17
SNL sketch featuring Rachel Dratch.
00:43:21
The expression Debbie Downer derives from the SNL sketch?
00:43:26
You're joking.
00:43:27
That's crazy.
00:43:29
but like there's no, like you can't find evidence of it being used before that.
00:43:35
It's kind of like a Mandela effect.
00:43:37
Like people will swear that they remember it being used, but if you use like internet archive or anything, nothing before 2004 when it premiered.
00:43:47
I know.
00:43:48
Wow, that's crazy.
00:43:49
That's that reminds me of your fun fact about David Barnes and Buster Noble.
00:43:55
Yeah, a lot of people don't know that the people who own Dave and Buster's are the same people who own Barnes and Noble, Dave Barnes and Buster Noble.
00:44:06
Killer Q News exclusive.
00:44:08
Yeah, and you don't have to Google that one.
00:44:11
it.
00:44:12
Take our word for it.
00:44:13
Yeah, on the last...
00:44:14
Okay, but I wasn't lying about the Debbie Donner.
00:44:17
The second one, that is part of our fake facts segment, but the first part, Debbie Donner, that's real.
00:44:25
That's crazy.
00:44:26
Yeah, it doesn't have anything to do with this movie, but I thought it was fun, so.
00:44:30
it does actually have something to do with this movie because I think that she looks like Debbie Downer.
00:44:35
Rachel Dratch herself, please.
00:44:39
No.
00:44:42
I get it, though.
00:44:43
I see where I'm picking up what you're putting down.
00:44:46
Yeah.
00:44:47
you.
00:44:48
Do you have any other fun facts about the ritual?
00:44:52
Yeah, there's a Wilhelm scream.
00:44:54
Did you catch it?
00:44:56
There is yet the end, right?
00:44:58
yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:59
When Luke is fleeing the Jotun.
00:45:03
The very end, yeah.
00:45:05
Which was kind of sad.
00:45:08
I felt really bad for Moder not being able to eat him or sacrifice him.
00:45:14
yeah, well, you can't have them all.
00:45:16
Yeah, he was like really sad.
00:45:18
I felt for him.
00:45:20
Her.
00:45:21
She's a girl now.
00:45:23
Mm-hmm.
00:45:26
Another fun fact is that...
00:45:28
When they're first waking up in their tents, when they're out camping, Hutch, Phil, and Dom all exit their tents in the order that they end up dying in.
00:45:41
So that's kind of fun.
00:45:44
It could, but quite the coincidence.
00:45:47
It's a one in six chance.
00:45:49
It could be 123132213231312321.
00:45:57
six.
00:45:59
good math.
00:46:01
You just pulled that out.
00:46:02
Yeah, I did.
00:46:04
Are you looking it up?
00:46:05
Are you making sure?
00:46:07
Oh.
00:46:07
And you literally just gave me the option, so I'm...
00:46:10
I know you're right.
00:46:14
Yeah.
00:46:14
I mean, odds aren't huge.
00:46:18
Yeah.
00:46:19
Fun, fun little cutesy little fact.
00:46:22
I've got one more.
00:46:24
Okay, the congregation that gets set on fire, most of them were dummies.
00:46:34
Good.
00:46:34
of those dummies had puppeteering components, which is fun.
00:46:41
They were little puppets.
00:46:43
And then there were eight extras also in the congregation, just in full makeup.
00:46:49
Nice.
00:46:50
Mm-hmm.
00:46:51
Yeah, Practical in digital.
00:46:54
Well, that's all practical, I guess, but...
00:46:57
that it's all practical.
00:46:58
But it does feel like they had a nice balance.
00:47:01
Which I appreciate.
00:47:02
I just love practical effects.
00:47:05
And if you have to enhance them with digital, great.
00:47:08
That's fine.
00:47:10
Yeah.
00:47:11
Yeah, it's like putting butter on toast.
00:47:13
It was good to start.
00:47:15
Yeah.
00:47:16
It'll be a little better, but if you put too much, it's ruined again.
00:47:20
gross.
00:47:20
Yeah, exactly.
00:47:22
I have one last fun fact that will tie in to our Would You Survive segment, which is after ratings.
00:47:30
But yeah, we all hey, listen, listen, we all know.
00:47:38
Less.
00:47:40
Are you Liz?
00:47:41
Great.
00:47:43
Rafe Spall and James, or Robert James Collier, did an interview where they basically did a would you survive this movie?
00:47:51
And I thought that that was kind of fun.
00:47:53
Both of them said that they would survive because as soon as they saw the oak strung out, they would leave.
00:47:58
So yeah, it was kind of funny.
00:48:02
They were laughing about it.
00:48:03
They're like, no, as soon as I saw that shit in the movie, we're like, it's probably hot.
00:48:10
Right?
00:48:12
So dumb.
00:48:13
Yeah, I thought that was funny.
00:48:16
Yeah.
00:48:18
Alright, well do you want to rate it?
00:48:20
Yeah, let's rate it.
00:48:23
How scary did you think it was?
00:48:25
I gave it a one.
00:48:27
There is some atmospheric tension.
00:48:30
I will say I remember the first time I watched it and when the hand first shows around the tree, I was like, oh, what the fuck?
00:48:37
Like, what are we doing here?
00:48:39
So I remember that one kind of gave me a little dread for a moment.
00:48:42
But then I kind of eased into it.
00:48:45
What about you?
00:48:46
Sure.
00:48:47
I mean, it was sorta scary.
00:48:49
Yeah, it's got some tension for sure.
00:48:52
Yeah, it wasn't like anything earth shattering, but the creature design alone was very unsettling.
00:48:58
For sure.
00:48:59
So I gave it a two.
00:49:01
Okay, yeah.
00:49:02
Yeah, the eyes, the glowing eyes.
00:49:04
The hand, the face hands, face arms.
00:49:09
Yeah.
00:49:10
the face arms are something.
00:49:12
Yeah, I think I keep thinking about it.
00:49:15
Oh, good.
00:49:17
How sexy did you think it was?
00:49:19
It was.
00:49:20
Yeah, the ritualism, the Nordic folklore, the like tongue-in-cheek toxic masculinity.
00:49:31
was all a vibe for sure.
00:49:33
And then, you know, Moder, a three out of five.
00:49:37
Yeah.
00:49:37
Okay.
00:49:39
Yeah.
00:49:40
How about you?
00:49:41
I give it a 2.5, so pretty similar.
00:49:44
It's just, yeah, the folk vibes, the mythology, modare, fire, you know?
00:49:52
It's just arson, who doesn't, you know?
00:49:55
It's crazy.
00:49:56
Yeah, there's a little something there.
00:50:00
But only half, because the other half is like...
00:50:03
Man being man.
00:50:05
men camping.
00:50:07
Gross.
00:50:08
You know?
00:50:10
So I had to split it down the middle.
00:50:11
Yeah.
00:50:13
But how fucked up did you think it was?
00:50:16
I gave it a one.
00:50:17
And because most of it wasn't stuff that really bothers me.
00:50:22
um But I will say the opening scene is that's a bit much.
00:50:28
Like his friend getting killed.
00:50:31
I don't know why that's like it's very jarring to me.
00:50:33
So that's like the part that I think is the most fucked up to me.
00:50:38
But I also think that's part of me being like, real stuff scares me because that could happen to you.
00:50:43
You know what I mean?
00:50:44
Like
00:50:44
Yeah.
00:50:47
It could, it could happen to you.
00:50:50
I hope it doesn't because it would be me.
00:50:53
Or, or.
00:50:57
It wouldn't happen to us because we were to help each other.
00:51:00
If you were about to get killed, I would stand in front of you.
00:51:05
So I would get killed first anyway.
00:51:09
yeah, you're welcome.
00:51:10
swing the bottle.
00:51:12
At the very least.
00:51:15
Yeah.
00:51:15
chucking bottles at the...
00:51:18
Yeah, for sure.
00:51:20
Did you answer how fucked up you thought it was?
00:51:23
Please do.
00:51:24
Thank you.
00:51:25
I didn't think that there was really anything out of the ordinary em outside of I didn't like him breaking his thumb or dislocating his thumb.
00:51:34
That was terrible.
00:51:36
Even with like the insane lead up.
00:51:39
So I gave it a two overall.
00:51:42
People's bodies being in trees is not fun.
00:51:45
Yeah.
00:51:47
Yeah.
00:51:47
So two.
00:51:49
Yeah, I tried to be a good friend and I was like, I'm on top of this one.
00:51:54
I remember that the reason they have to take the shortcut is because someone hurts their leg.
00:51:58
That's a Katie thing.
00:51:59
I was like, let me get the timestamp and everything, sent it over.
00:52:03
That part didn't even bother her.
00:52:05
I forgot about the thumb.
00:52:06
Didn't, did not stay with me at all.
00:52:09
So didn't remember that happened.
00:52:11
that was terrible.
00:52:12
I'm drooling thinking about it right now and not in a good way.
00:52:15
I will say as I was watching it when I told you this, but I was kind of like doing two things at once and I heard it and I was like, oh, that's what bothered her because you had
00:52:26
said there was something else that was worse.
00:52:28
And as soon as I heard it, I knew.
00:52:31
Yeah.
00:52:32
Heesh.
00:52:34
Big yikes.
00:52:36
right, overall, what did you think of 2017?
00:52:40
ritual.
00:52:42
What?
00:52:43
Now don't get ahead of yourself.
00:52:46
I never would.
00:52:47
Okay, I didn't enjoy this movie as I was watching it as much as I did after having watched it.
00:52:55
Like watching it, was like, okay.
00:52:59
And then after I watched it, I was like, okay.
00:53:03
You know, it definitely feels like something I would like more than I did maybe.
00:53:12
And again, I'm not saying I didn't like it.
00:53:13
uh I definitely didn't hate it.
00:53:17
It just felt a little sort of like disjointed almost.
00:53:21
Like I almost wish that they didn't have the like cult people at all and just left it creature feature through and through.
00:53:32
I think I would have enjoyed that a little bit more, but the creature design was wonderful.
00:53:38
I really love the elk dog elephant man very much.
00:53:43
uh So all said, I gave it a 3.5.
00:53:47
Is that what you gave it?
00:53:49
Yeah, I gave it a 3.5 too.
00:53:52
But yeah, I agree.
00:53:54
I think you're right in that when I was doing my rating, I kept thinking, why isn't it higher?
00:54:01
And I couldn't really figure out, like I can't pinpoint why.
00:54:06
There's just something that's not all the way for me.
00:54:10
But I do think it has a great atmosphere.
00:54:12
It's well acted.
00:54:14
The monster design is amazing.
00:54:16
Love Moder.
00:54:18
I think there is a little bit of like the Blair Witch effect with this where like rewatching it isn't as much fun because you know what's coming, you know, Lost in the
00:54:27
Woods.
00:54:29
Something's gonna happen.
00:54:32
But they do show more of this, I guess.
00:54:34
You don't ever see the witch in Blair Witch, but still kind of that vibe.
00:54:39
But I did think overall it's a good movie.
00:54:42
It's not my favorite movie ever.
00:54:43
But it's decent movie.
00:54:45
I'll recommend it to people if they're like, hey, what's a horror movie on Netflix I should watch?
00:54:49
Be like, oh, have you seen The Ritual?
00:54:51
Pretty good.
00:54:52
Yeah, I agree.
00:54:55
And if if you're going to show the monster.
00:54:59
It should be like this.
00:55:00
Yeah, it should be like this.
00:55:02
It should be like the guy from smile to know smile one.
00:55:07
Is in smile one.
00:55:08
It's chosen though.
00:55:10
Where's the scene with all the fire?
00:55:12
That's in Smile 1.
00:55:14
Yeah.
00:55:14
in the first one.
00:55:16
That's how you do monsters.
00:55:17
Yeah, just make a cool, unique design.
00:55:20
or alternately?
00:55:22
Yeah?
00:55:23
That one zombie movie where it's just a kid.
00:55:26
with the brains?
00:55:28
Oh, you know that's a possession movie, right?
00:55:31
You're right.
00:55:31
Possession movie.
00:55:32
Yes.
00:55:33
I guess the possession kind of works like zombies, so that's fair.
00:55:36
When evil lurks is what she's talking about for the kids at home.
00:55:40
Yeah.
00:55:41
Yeah, where it's just a kid.
00:55:42
It's just a person.
00:55:44
like, yeah, that's fair.
00:55:47
Anyway.
00:55:48
Alright, well, are you like the actors?
00:55:51
Would you turn around and leave?
00:55:52
Would you survive?
00:55:54
I mean, the lesson here is about toxic masculinity, right?
00:55:58
We've established that.
00:56:01
I don't have that.
00:56:03
I'm not toxically masculine.
00:56:05
In fact, I have the exact opposite of that.
00:56:07
I'm not even a feminist.
00:56:09
I think women are better than men.
00:56:12
I don't wish for...
00:56:14
Yes, that's the word.
00:56:16
If I were a character in this film, I would be Moder.
00:56:19
So I live.
00:56:21
You're killing people.
00:56:24
Cool.
00:56:25
toxically masculine men.
00:56:27
Yeah.
00:56:29
Also, though, like like the actor said, I'm not sticking around.
00:56:34
Yeah.
00:56:35
How about you?
00:56:37
This is gonna sound terrible, but if I had a friend group and one person was like, let's go camping out in the wilderness, and then that person passed away tragically, and
00:56:46
everybody was like, oh, we gotta go camping in a remote location.
00:56:50
I'd be like, no, we don't.
00:56:53
Because they're dead and they don't know.
00:56:55
You know?
00:56:56
So.
00:56:58
You guys can go.
00:56:59
I don't, I'm not going.
00:57:01
But if that's a cop out, sure.
00:57:03
I go camping and they're like, oh, we have to take this shortcut through the woods with the elk that's strung up and dead.
00:57:10
No, I'm going the route that I know.
00:57:13
I'm never going off path if there's one thing about me and any type of outdoor activity.
00:57:20
I am staying where I know.
00:57:24
So yeah, I think I'm good.
00:57:26
Excellent.
00:57:27
Two very different answers.
00:57:29
Yeah, we never even crossed paths.
00:57:33
You're Moder and I'm passing by the woods.
00:57:39
Now we're...
00:57:41
Yep, I went to Ibiza.
00:57:43
Hahaha!
00:57:47
You would too.
00:57:49
well yeah, that sounds great.
00:57:51
I would go to Sweden too.
00:57:53
I'm just not hiking in the wilderness.
00:57:56
That's weird.
00:57:57
Well, I would, but not that far.
00:58:00
I'm not hiking far enough into the wilderness where I have to stay the night in the wilderness.
00:58:05
I'm going on a quick, you know, max four hour hike that way I can be back by sundown.
00:58:13
Yeah.
00:58:15
All right, do want to predict next week's movie then?
00:58:18
Yeah, yeah, yeah, next week, next week, we're watching It's What's Inside.
00:58:26
Yeah, I unfortunately spoiled it a little bit for myself.
00:58:31
I know, shame on me.
00:58:32
I know for a fact it's about a group of friends that get together at a hotel for a little sleepover party.
00:58:39
And then a pizza man or somebody comes and drops off a box, like a dick in a box sort of thing, but like a suitcase, a suitcase.
00:58:50
And he's like, don't open this.
00:58:52
And then the alpha male of the group, like the alpha male.
00:58:59
does open the suitcase, he's like, you can't fucking tell me what to do.
00:59:03
And then he gets possessed and dies.
00:59:06
And so then everybody starts fighting over what to do with the suitcase.
00:59:09
Do we keep it?
00:59:09
Like maybe even in fact, he's sucked into the suitcase.
00:59:13
I don't know this part for sure.
00:59:15
He's like sucked into the suitcase.
00:59:17
my gosh.
00:59:19
Then they're like, do we open it and let him out?
00:59:21
Do we leave him in there?
00:59:23
What do we do?
00:59:24
Also, it's a comedy.
00:59:26
great, okay.
00:59:29
What do they end up doing?
00:59:31
I don't know.
00:59:32
That's...
00:59:33
so that's basically the whole point of this segment is that you just decide.
00:59:37
Yeah, you tell me, even if it's right or wrong.
00:59:42
I think that they find a way to just defeat the suitcase.
00:59:46
Do they get their friend back?
00:59:49
He's dead.
00:59:50
died.
00:59:50
right, he died.
00:59:51
Yeah, but he might have gotten sucked in, but we're not sure.
00:59:54
Got it.
00:59:55
it was like, do we open it again to see if we can get him out or are we going to get sucked in?
01:00:00
Right, they defeat it.
01:00:01
Does anybody else die or do all everybody else lives because they defeat the suitcase?
01:00:05
ah No, I think it takes a little bit of trial and error.
01:00:08
A couple more people die.
01:00:10
Okay, yeah, yeah, classic.
01:00:12
But to the suitcase, it's definitely the suitcase.
01:00:15
Yeah, the suitcase is the one killing people.
01:00:17
Yeah, obviously.
01:00:21
Great.
01:00:23
I don't think you smiled at yourself.
01:00:25
Not even a little bit?
01:00:27
It's a horror comedy!
01:00:30
The sum, but a pizza man drops off a box.
01:00:33
A pizza boy drops off, there's a suitcase.
01:00:36
There is a suitcase.
01:00:38
There is no pizza guy who drops it off.
01:00:41
Who drops off the suitcase?
01:00:44
It's, nobody drops it off.
01:00:46
One of the friends just has a suitcase.
01:00:49
and it's a point of contention, the suitcase?
01:00:53
Yeah, I would say that.
01:00:56
You're like, you're in the ballpark, but I promise you don't know enough that you spoiled anything for yourself.
01:01:04
You're good.
01:01:05
Yeah.
01:01:06
Okay.
01:01:06
Is there an alpha male?
01:01:10
Yeah, I guess.
01:01:11
Sure.
01:01:12
like there's an album mail.
01:01:14
He looks like a great value Franco brother.
01:01:17
Oh!
01:01:20
Yeah, I'll let you go in blind since you already like kind of almost spoiled it for yourself, I'll say.
01:01:27
Yeah, the only thing I'll tell you is that Lexa from the 100 is in it.
01:01:31
Wow, I like Lexa.
01:01:33
That is so fun.
01:01:36
I just read those books.
01:01:38
You did, I don't think Lexa's in the books, but yeah.
01:01:44
Nobody that I like is actually in the books.
01:01:48
That's actually so real.
01:01:51
Octavia's in the books.
01:01:52
I like Octavia, but she's very different in the book.
01:01:55
So it's kind of...
01:01:57
I like her in the show a lot better than I like her in the book.
01:02:01
Yeah.
01:02:02
not a whole lot that's the same in the books.
01:02:05
they definitely took some huge creative liberties.
01:02:09
Yeah.
01:02:11
For the better and for the worse.
01:02:14
Yeah, for sure.
01:02:14
Anyways, this isn't a podcast about...
01:02:23
We're going episode by episode.
01:02:26
And when we're done, we'll get back on track with this one.
01:02:30
No, I'm kidding.
01:02:31
us in 300 weeks.
01:02:33
We're talking about it's what's inside the suitcase movie.
01:02:37
That's a wild concept for a podcast.
01:02:41
Just take breaks to talk about.
01:02:44
Well, they go episode by episode, but they talk about the office.
01:02:47
I'm saying it's a wild idea to have a horror movie podcast where you just take breaks and watch entire TV shows and it just changes.
01:02:54
And then you go back to the regularly scheduled program.
01:02:59
And we're back.
01:03:02
Yeah.
01:03:03
All right.
01:03:03
Well, I'm glad you enjoyed the ritual.
01:03:07
Next week we're talking about it's what's inside.
01:03:09
Yeah.
01:03:09
And...
01:03:12
Let us know in the comments.
01:03:15
what you let Moder do to you.
01:03:17
Please.
01:03:19
Yeah, don't be weird.
01:03:21
Well, you can be weird, but just, you know.
01:03:24
keep it appropriate.
01:03:26
Yeah, yeah.
01:03:27
That's all we ask.
01:03:29
That's it.
01:03:29
That's our only hope.
01:03:31
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01:03:34
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01:03:38
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01:03:40
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01:03:42
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01:03:43
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