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Hello.
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Oh, that was pretty close.
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Yeah.
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Well, hello!
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Welcome back to the Killer Cuties Podcast.
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Yes, happy Tuesday.
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Happy Tuesday.
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I'm Cassidy.
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And we're your hosts.
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Yep, that's us.
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Great.
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We are here to talk about Malignant.
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Special request from listener Mike.
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Thank you, Mike, for the suggestion.
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First, we're going to play a little game.
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It was your idea again, so you talk about it.
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Yeah, okay.
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This game is a guessing game.
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We each have seven movies and we have to guess the movies with 13 or fewer clues.
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So we'll each give each other clues one word at a time.
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And the goal is to get in less than 13 and
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We were just talking about it before we started recording and we think it's gonna be too easy, so.
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Yeah, we'll see how it goes.
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Maybe we're maybe we're giving each other too much credit though.
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We also thought that we were gonna nail the last game we did, and we didn't at all, so...
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Yeah, so this could be a disaster.
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Why seven movies?
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Well, it's supposed to be like seven and twenty five or something.
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Oh, that feels like so many words for so little.
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but also you're not picking your words it's just like random words yeah
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We gotta stay on theme.
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We're here for a reason.
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We're not here to fuck around.
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I mean, we could have put all of the movies in a wheel.
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That's true, and then we had to spin it to see which one we got.
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That probably would have been more fair because I'm not gonna try to make you guess, you The Fall of the House of Usher.
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That's too much.
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Although actually, yeah, you're right, that would have been so easy.
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I was trying to think of one that has the most words in the title that we've talked about, I picked the one that would have been actually violently easy.
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the words in the title isn't what's hard.
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Well, no, but sometimes if you want to get people to say the entire thing.
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You know what I mean?
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Oh, okay.
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Well, to be fair, all but one of no, I'm not going to tell you anything.
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Never mind.
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I'm not going to give you any clues.
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Yeah, I'm going to guess.
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You're going to prompt.
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Yeah, and everybody listening can play along.
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Not seven, thirteen.
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Don't set the bar too high, low, high.
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Well, no, go- yeah, okay, under 13.
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Okay.
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Okay, got it.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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All right.
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I'm locked in.
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yeah, lock in, get on the same wavelength, play along.
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So I need you to pull over our spreadsheet where we have a list of everything we've ever covered.
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No.
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Okay, well, everybody playing at home, we are doing movie titles that we've covered on the podcast.
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So little, little hint for everybody.
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Okay.
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You're not gonna remember any title we've ever done.
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I should have just picked the last seven episodes and done those.
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ah
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horror movies.
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I Googled horror movies to think of seven horror movies.
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Yeah, I know.
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I should have just referenced it.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Tusk.
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You wanna know something so fucking funny?
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That was the first one I did too and walrus was gonna be my word and I was like, this is too easy.
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It's too obvious, I'm taking it off.
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I mean this I know I said easy that's me love easy
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all right.
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decapitated.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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I don't remember names, but I know, I know, I know.
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Hereditary.
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Hell yeah.
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Hell yeah, hell yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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okay.
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Okay.
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Shhhh.
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That's not cheating, that's a word.
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not a word, that's an onomatopoeia.
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Onomatopoeia's can be words.
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Yes.
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I thought that one though, it could have been Silence of the Lambs.
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Shh.
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I would have said Chianti or fava.
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Hannibal.
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No, you can't say character names.
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No character names, no actors, actresses.
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Yes, just words.
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fog.
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Mist, the mist.
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Wait, we should go on password together.
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Honestly, we should go on password together because it would be so easy.
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I feel like.
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had to think of things outside of horror.
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okay.
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All right, yeah, sign me up.
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It is too easy.
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Three more though, we're nailing this.
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Next time, we'll have to do a wheel, because this is way too easy.
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Okay.
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Game.
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Oh, saw?
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Wow!
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one I thought maybe could be tricky because Ready or Not was also kinda, you know.
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You don't even know what that is.
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I know.
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I know that what's your face is in it and she's in another movie right now.
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I know that much.
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Samara weaving Samara weaving Samara Samara weaving.
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She's in a movie right now.
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Yeah, she's in a heist movie comedy.
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Mm hmm.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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All right, two more.
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Okay.
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cave.
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The Descent.
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Hell yeah.
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I almost picked that one.
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did not, but I almost picked that one.
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So far we're, because I changed Tusk, we haven't had any crossover.
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All right, that good that narrows it down for me.
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This is bad though, because I'm you're nailing it and then my brain's not working today.
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So I'm not gonna get any of these.
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fucked.
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You've called yourself stupid multiple times today.
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I, cause I'm, yeah, it's, I'm so tired.
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I did not sleep well last night.
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So I'm, my brain's just not, it's not firing on all cylinders.
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All right, last one to get, to get it in seven.
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Dune.
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Bones and All.
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What?
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you might do that.
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Damn, okay.
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Give me another one.
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worms.
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Oh brother.
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Yes Tremors.
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Yeah, I was thinking more the concept than Timmy Tim, but I did consider the possibility that you would think it was.
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Yeah, all right, we did it in eight.
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That's easy, easy.
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That's incredible actually.
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Too easy again.
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We got to spin the wheel next time.
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Yeah.
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There's one that I have three words prepped for.
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So just in case.
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Yeah, I prepped.
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OK.
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even have it.
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I just said worms as as a bad, didn't have it written down because I had that much faith in you.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, good.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Ready?
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I'm gonna go easy to hard to.
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Okay.
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Shower.
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Yep.
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Easy.
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Easy.
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Okay, next one.
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Also easy.
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Hotel.
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I would also say psycho, but I know it's not psycho.
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So now I'm trying to think of anything else where they were in a hotel.
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The Shining.
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The...
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Yeah.
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I don't know why I blocked that out.
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Literally started the book today.
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Yeah, yeah.
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OK.
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Vampire?
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Nosferatu?
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Okay, I was like this could be this could be two.
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uh
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My second word for that one was going to be bounce.
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Bounce on it crazy style.
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Yeah.
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Okay, next one.
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space.
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Alien?
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Okay.
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Yeah, you just said it so sad.
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thought maybe there was another space movie I was missing.
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No.
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Okay.
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first.
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first.
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She's cheating.
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She's looking through our list.
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I'm not.
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I should.
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There she is.
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No, I first like us first, first like first.
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I'm gonna try to snipe it here.
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I'm gonna say new year, new you.
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Why the fuck would I remember that movie?
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That's actually a really good point, but you said you were trying to do harder ones.
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Not like obscure, like the lowest rated movie.
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That's not true, that would be Terrifier.
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Okay.
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camera.
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Blair Witch Project.
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I just thought that wouldn't be like fur.
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I didn't know you would do like fur, like the fur.
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But that was my second guess because I was like, the first one, like our first.
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I was toeing the line.
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Those were the two I was thinking of.
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But OK, OK, no more Snipes.
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She doesn't know obscure movies.
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No, I don't.
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uh OK.
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school.
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In hindsight, that's not a good word.
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But that's the one I'm giving you,
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I'm just thinking because it was so recent I'm thinking of weapons.
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Is that your final guess?
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After you said that, I don't want it to be, but yes!
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No, that's correct.
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That's correct.
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Correct.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Ah, shoot.
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the way you said that, no it's not.
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Okay good, that was a good guess because it was fresh on the mind.
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I closed our list so I'd have to pull it back up to look at other school related ones.
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Yeah, the only other school one that popped into my head was the one with Elijah Wood.
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the faculty.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That would have been a good guess too.
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Okay, this one actually is easy.
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Okay, blueberry.
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Heretic.
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Nice.
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It's a one.
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Wow.
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And eight.
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We did it at eight.
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Just like me.
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There you go.
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Some might say we ate that.
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No.
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Okay, next week we're putting it in a wheel.
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Oh yeah, next week we're doing news.
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yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, tune in next week for horror news.
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Well...
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Nope, tune in next week for new horror movies releasing in September 2025.
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Yeah, I just realized today should have been our new horror movies.
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This is our last episode of August, yeah.
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Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
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Well, that's okay.
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Our next episode comes out on the 2nd, so not a lot of movies before then.
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Yeah, odds are good that there's not any horror movies releasing on the first and second.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Next week we'll do new horror movies for September.
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Perfect.
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I was just so excited to play the game.
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Yeah, you know, it happens.
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Yeah, All right, well, that was that.
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And now we're here to talk about weapons.
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I mean, not weapons, Malignant.
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As much as I'd love to talk about weapons again.
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Yeah, as much as we would love to, we already have an episode on that.
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All right, Malignant.
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I'll give us a little overview.
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Madison is paralyzed by shocking visions of grisly murders and her torment worsens as she discovers that these waking dreams are in fact terrifying realities.
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That's from IMDb.
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This was directed by James Wan, screenplay by Akela Cooper, and the story is by Wan, Cooper and Ingrid Bisu.
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Fun fact, that is James Wan's wife.
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It stars Annabelle Wallace, Maddie Hassan, and George Young.
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It had a budget of 40 million and made about 34.9 million at the box office.
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However, keep in mind that this was not an exclusive theatrical release.
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It was released in the aftermath of
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COVID lockdowns.
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it premiered in theaters and on HBO Max at the same time.
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could have impacted box office numbers.
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There's no way to know.
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Okay, sure, it did.
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It currently has a 6.2 out of 10 on IMDb, a 3.1 out of five on Letterboxd, a 53 % audience and 77 % critic score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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You brought up Ingrid Bisu.
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um She also has a brief role as Detective Winnie.
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she does.
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So that's Yeah.
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fun little cameo.
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Also, this was kind of her idea for the movie.
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That's why she's credited for story.
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She's really into like medical anomalies.
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And so she was basically reading about parasitic twins and talked to her husband, James Wan, about it.
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And he was like, this sounds great.
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Let's make a movie.
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There you go.
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And now we have Malignant.
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No, there is that movie.
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Mm-hmm.
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The premise also has similarities to the Stephen King book, The Dark Half, which is about an author who had a partially absorbed twin in utero that then later manifests itself and
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kills off everybody who was responsible for its murder.
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But there is also a movie for that.
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It was adapted in 1993.
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Maybe that's why Stephen King liked it so much.
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He did like it.
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He did, he said he thought it was brilliant.
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I'm still not convinced that directors or teams don't pay him to say nice things about their movies.
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I feel like that's a strong possibility.
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I also feel like he is pretty involved in the horror world.
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So I feel like when something makes a wave, he usually comments on it, whether or not that could just be marketing for it, but who's to say?
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Not me.
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Steven, if you're listening, stop using the N-word and then tell us if people pay you to give your opinion.
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haven't read anything from him from like this century, so I don't know if that's gotten better, but.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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I mean, it's not fair.
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It's still unfair.
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But we haven't read any like, he's got new stuff.
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Yes, he could have learned by now.
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Who's to say?
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Only him.
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Let us know, Stephen.
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Also, Nicolas Cage, big fan of this movie.
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Yeah, loves it.
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His favorite horror of 2021.
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Which was...
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Which is crazy because he was in horror movies in 2021.
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Which ones?
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I don't know.
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I'm making shit up.
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You can't make stuff up during our fun fact segment.
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Nicholas Cage horror movie 2021.
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Prisoners of the Ghostland.
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Willy's Wonderland.
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oh, what, was that actually 2021?
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Oh wow.
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wait, that's literally just what's it called.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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It has like decent reviews.
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Even on Letterboxd.
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Crazy.
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And then Prisoners of Ghostland.
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That one I've never heard of.
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has better reviews.
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Less people reviewing it though.
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158 critics.
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versus Willy's Wonderland has 92 critics.
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Wow.
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Well, I guess I'll put it on my watch list.
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put him on the list.
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He also did Pig that year.
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list.
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Oh, now that's a fucking movie right there.
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Woo!
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No, it's not.
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But.
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up there.
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in my opinion, for first best Nicolas Cage movie.
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next to Spiderman.
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I forgot he was in that.
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Tied with two other movies for first place Nicholas Cage movie.
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What's the other one?
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National Treasure, obviously.
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Don't...
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there.
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Mandy was good.
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I liked Mandy.
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And I love that for you.
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Mandy is really fun for about 20 minutes.
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And the rest of it is such a slog.
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thought it was a blast.
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Whatever.
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Anyway.
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Gabriel, the scenes in which he is walking or running were not CGI, which is probably the scariest part of this movie.
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um It was a Ukrainian actress, Marina Mazepa.
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She's a professional dancer and a contortionist.
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She's been in a ton of movies.
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None that I've seen, but she's been in a lot.
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fun for her.
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Yeah.
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I read that initially the plan was to shoot those scenes in reverse because obviously running backwards is very difficult and it was Ingrid Bisu's idea to try it.
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She was like, well, what if we just tried it out?
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And I know, rightfully so,
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Marina Mazepa gets a lot of credit for the role, as she should.
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However, there was also a stunt woman named Lauren Shaw who did that as well.
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So, yeah, two of them working in tandem.
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And I guess Lauren Shaw was the first person that was like, I'll try it out, and just started running backwards down a hallway.
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And it worked, yeah.
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It was kind of creepy.
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Yeah, it, yeah, it led well to the like unnatural movement of him where for the first, know, however long you kind of think this is just some weird creature until you realize
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what's going on.
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Which by the way, the entire movie, give it away with a title sequence.
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You knew right away that it was a parasitic twin on the back of her head?
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Oh great.
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amazing.
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watch, it does give it away.
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It says, born with two heads.
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There's diagrams of the anatomy of the twins.
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There's like, it shows the surgery of them removing him.
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It literally gives away the whole plot.
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Yeah, I think the idea is that when you go back and watch it, you're like, duh.
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Yeah, for sure.
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just so far-fetched you wouldn't believe it even if you were paying attention.
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Yeah, there was an interview with James Wan where they talked about early critics of the movie who said that it took it, the movie took itself too seriously.
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And they asked James Wan what he felt about that.
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And he said, I'm not understanding how anyone could watch this movie and think that it was self-serious in any way, shape or form.
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So.
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Which is fair.
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And by the way, I wasn't too far off with my guess the plot.
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cancer, Malignant.
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Yeah.
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I said possession, which is like sort of the vibe.
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Kind of.
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It wasn't horribly off, no.
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Yeah.
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I don't think this is really a movie you can predict.
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No.
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No, not really.
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Unless you really watch the sequence, the opening sequence.
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Even still, I don't think you would capture the vibe of the ending, you know?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't think I thought this was as funny as other people did.
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Okay, yeah.
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There were some funny parts.
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Like Sydney finding out that the sisters adopted.
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That face was not necessary.
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Yeah.
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And also, Gabriel ragdolling down the stairs was maybe the funniest thing I've ever seen.
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Don't know why.
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movie's funnier maybe like the second or third time you watch it.
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Okay, good to know.
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I feel like the first time you watch it, at least the first time I watched it, and granted this is because James Wan was coming off of like the conjuring and insidious and these
00:23:03
movies that took themselves very seriously.
00:23:06
So like when I first started, right, when I first started watching Malignant I was like, is he joking?
00:23:13
Like what is this?
00:23:14
Like it felt so much like, like those early 2000s.
00:23:19
the kind of stupid horror movies, which to his credit is what he wanted to do.
00:23:24
He said, I want to go back to my roots, like dead silence.
00:23:27
It gives that vibe of like this, like that kind of like guilty pleasure horror movie from the early 2000s.
00:23:35
So yeah, I think when you go back and watch it in that mindset, it's a little bit funnier.
00:23:41
But I still don't think it's like laugh out loud.
00:23:44
I mean the face that she made and him ragdolling down the stairs.
00:23:48
I laughed out loud.
00:23:50
Like what the fuck you making that face for?
00:23:53
And then he just kept falling and he's like sort of hanging on but also not like...
00:24:00
Yeah.
00:24:02
The music in this also really threw me off.
00:24:05
It set the tone for the comedic aspects, but then there weren't enough comedic moments to back it up.
00:24:15
The music felt very out of place.
00:24:17
I know it was sort of reminiscent or based off of that Pixie song.
00:24:23
Yeah, where is my mind?
00:24:25
Yeah.
00:24:26
Which is in Fight Club, who knew?
00:24:28
yeah, kind of another hint as to what's going on, because same twist.
00:24:34
as Fight Club.
00:24:35
I've never seen Fight Club.
00:24:38
Is there a parasitic twin in Fight Club?
00:24:40
What hell?
00:24:44
didn't know it was possible to spoil Fight Club for someone.
00:24:48
I'm actually very sorry because it's a great, unfortunately a great movie.
00:24:56
Okay.
00:24:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:58
You should watch Fight Club.
00:25:00
Fight Club's on my list of like red flags if it's a man's favorite movie, but a green flag if it's a woman's favorite movie, you know?
00:25:08
I just don't like Brad Pitt.
00:25:10
Is he in Fight Club?
00:25:11
Brad Pitt.
00:25:12
He is in Fight Club.
00:25:14
Yeah.
00:25:15
Yeah, I'm not a fan of his.
00:25:16
Yeah.
00:25:22
Anyways, sorry for spoiling a twenty-some year old movie.
00:25:30
That's not true.
00:25:31
You'll watch it in a year and you'll have already forgotten.
00:25:34
I was gonna watch it tonight with Dylan.
00:25:37
Oh.
00:25:38
Well.
00:25:38
I promised somebody I'd watch the monkey.
00:25:41
Oh, the Oz Perkins film?
00:25:44
Stephen...
00:25:45
Is it a Stephen King novella?
00:25:47
Yeah.
00:25:48
I actually just watched that the other day.
00:25:51
I did.
00:25:51
Not very good.
00:25:54
I'm not gonna hold ya.
00:25:56
Not very good.
00:25:57
Somebody told me it was really funny and I needed to watch it.
00:26:00
I went into it thinking, oh, this is going to be like a silly, goofy time.
00:26:06
Not nearly as silly and goofy as I wanted it to be.
00:26:10
Yeah.
00:26:10
Maybe you'll think differently though.
00:26:11
Maybe you'll like it.
00:26:12
I don't know.
00:26:14
I mean, our opinions don't differ that much.
00:26:16
Sometimes they do.
00:26:19
I wasn't a fan of it, I'm so sorry.
00:26:21
Okay, well, no, that's fine.
00:26:22
We're not here to talk about that.
00:26:24
We're not.
00:26:25
In fact, we're not going to talk about that or Fight Club or any of the movies that we just talked about for 20 minutes.
00:26:33
Believe it or not, this is not a Fight Club podcast.
00:26:35
This is a podcast about horror movies.
00:26:39
Specifically, Malignant.
00:26:42
Today, Malignant.
00:26:43
Tomorrow, find out.
00:26:47
In about 30 minutes.
00:26:49
I just, okay.
00:26:52
Yeah, you're right.
00:26:54
Anyway, the the lots of little Easter eggs that are literally telling you exactly what is happening like spoon feeding into you.
00:27:06
But the patient report, like the medical records or whatever for Emily is literally copy and pasted from the Wikipedia article on cranial pegus parasiticus.
00:27:19
Yeah.
00:27:19
which is an extremely rare type of parasitic twinning occurring in about four to six of 10 million births.
00:27:27
Like basically it doesn't ever happen.
00:27:30
Which also...
00:27:32
But that's not even the simplest form of that fraction.
00:27:34
So that was a little confusing to me, but...
00:27:37
Well, they do it in 1 million or 10 million increments.
00:27:42
like 5 million.
00:27:44
Like 2 and 5 million.
00:27:45
They don't usually, it's always a one followed by zeros.
00:27:50
Yeah, that'll be like a one in 10 or.
00:27:53
because people can't figure it out or...
00:27:55
Probably.
00:27:57
Oh.
00:27:58
I don't know.
00:27:59
Yeah.
00:28:00
It must be some scale or something.
00:28:03
Maybe I'm wrong.
00:28:04
People who decide those numbers, please let us know in the comments if you know why they couldn't say.
00:28:14
two in five million?
00:28:16
Yeah.
00:28:18
Two to three and five million.
00:28:20
one in 2.5 million.
00:28:23
Well, yeah, but if you're going to say four to six, then you wouldn't reduce three to 1.5.
00:28:31
You would do two to three out of five million.
00:28:34
Yeah.
00:28:35
Well, maybe that's the same reason.
00:28:38
Four to six in 10 million.
00:28:41
Six would be a weird number.
00:28:43
be divided by two, evenly, which is my point.
00:28:50
Fair.
00:28:51
Thank you.
00:28:52
uh
00:28:53
Shortly after that, Dr.
00:28:56
Weaver explains, like literally minutes later, Dr.
00:28:59
Weaver explains that Gabriel is a Teratoma and Gabriel describes himself as a monster and the prefix terat and terado and teros means monster in Greek.
00:29:15
And then obviously Oma means tumor.
00:29:18
So a monster tumor, which accurately describes, honestly, they should have called this movie that.
00:29:25
Monster tumor.
00:29:26
think I would have gone and seen it if it had been called Monster.
00:29:32
It's not.
00:29:34
But that's typically not how you name a movie.
00:29:36
It's just, well, it's not wrong, you know?
00:29:39
You gotta entice people.
00:29:43
There's also a little foreshadowing at the beginning of the movie when the intruder breaks down the door and attacks Madison.
00:29:52
After that happens, the door is shown completely intact and not busted at all, which basically kind of foreshadows that it didn't actually happen.
00:30:01
That's just him metaphorically breaking through.
00:30:05
Yeah.
00:30:06
interesting.
00:30:08
was kind of like, it was kind of like, it was kind of like Inception a little bit.
00:30:15
You know what?
00:30:16
When I think of two movies that are exactly the same, it's this and Inception.
00:30:22
I said kinda, I didn't say exactly.
00:30:25
Fair.
00:30:27
It's dreams.
00:30:30
That's honestly, yeah.
00:30:34
Dreams.
00:30:35
You know what?
00:30:36
Throw in Nightmare on Elm Street.
00:30:38
Dreams.
00:30:39
better because then people are also dying.
00:30:42
Do people die in Inception?
00:30:44
I don't remember.
00:30:45
Probably.
00:30:46
Yeah, Cillian Murphy's dad dies Isn't that why they're breaking into his dream?
00:30:52
Because his dad's dying and they want him to rewrite his will or whatever.
00:30:58
Or not rewrite it, but like...
00:31:02
No, they want him to do something.
00:31:03
They don't want him to invest it in something or other.
00:31:06
They want him to do his own thing.
00:31:09
I don't know.
00:31:09
You want to something really strange about sort of about Inception, but not really.
00:31:14
I do the the New York Times games every night.
00:31:19
When I get in bed, that's the first thing I do is my Duolingo and my my New York Times games, which they added a new one, Pips.
00:31:25
If you haven't tried it, it's very fun.
00:31:29
And every night without fail before at least one game, I get an advertisement for.
00:31:36
Like Infinity or forever tops.
00:31:39
Oh!
00:31:40
Who's buying tops?
00:31:44
No, he has them already.
00:31:46
He doesn't need any more.
00:31:47
That's, he has the one and he's pretty attached to it, so.
00:31:52
but like.
00:31:54
you have to advertise tops.
00:31:55
Like if somebody wants a top, they know to go and buy it.
00:32:00
Like why would you you know what I mean?
00:32:03
And how did I why am I the demographic that was buying tops?
00:32:07
Is because I'm doing wordle?
00:32:09
So many people do wordle.
00:32:11
The, we need to see the Venn diagram of people who buy tops and people who play the wordle every night.
00:32:17
I would be willing to bet every- you do it every night too!
00:32:22
I don't do it every night, but I do it often.
00:32:25
I do it when I think of it, when I'm like, I should do the wordle today.
00:32:30
But it's not in my regular rotation.
00:32:33
I'm not judging at all, to be clear.
00:32:35
It's very fun.
00:32:36
No, I genuinely not.
00:32:39
The wordle's great.
00:32:41
I don't just do the wordle.
00:32:43
I do connections, do the mini, I do pips now.
00:32:47
and you buy your tops.
00:32:50
You're gonna, they're gonna getcha.
00:32:52
weird.
00:32:52
I wonder how much they are.
00:32:55
How much could a top even possibly be that you have to market people?
00:32:59
They got, they see they've got it in your mind now.
00:33:02
They are inceptioning you.
00:33:03
They're top-ceptioning you.
00:33:05
Spin World Famous Metal Spinning Tops.
00:33:08
They're $47 for a top.
00:33:13
The copper one is $55.
00:33:16
Cast iron?
00:33:18
Why I need a cast iron top?
00:33:22
because then you'll never need another one again.
00:33:25
I guess not.
00:33:26
Forever Spin World Famous Metal Spinning Tops.
00:33:28
Yeah, and now I'm really never gonna beat the ads.
00:33:31
I'm gonna get so many ads.
00:33:34
And I hope all of you are too, because you're listening to this.
00:33:38
Forever Spin, sponsor us.
00:33:41
Yeah, I've said tops enough that I'll probably get an ad on my phone later.
00:33:45
I guarantee it.
00:33:46
Just do your New York Times.
00:33:48
They think you're the demographic.
00:33:50
Anyway, we're not here to talk about tops or inception.
00:33:55
Stay on topic, challenge.
00:33:57
Impossible.
00:34:01
poor Mike requests an episode on Malignant and all we do is talk about everything besides Malignant.
00:34:07
every movie ever made except Malignant.
00:34:12
Not even just every movie, it's like film bro movies.
00:34:15
Yeah, all the Nicolas Cage movies and then the film-real movies.
00:34:20
Man, sorry, Mike.
00:34:23
Yeah.
00:34:25
Oh shoot.
00:34:28
Okay, more on Malignant, back on track.
00:34:30
okay, we're here.
00:34:32
Well, I was watching this last night.
00:34:35
Yeah.
00:34:36
The power went out.
00:34:38
It scared the shit out of me.
00:34:41
I got so scared.
00:34:42
I don't know why.
00:34:44
It wasn't even during a scary part.
00:34:47
I think it was the wife.
00:34:48
I think it was James Wan's wife, her scene.
00:34:52
That's fair, sometimes weird stuff happens and it's maybe not during a scary movie but it adds to the vibe, you know?
00:35:01
Yeah.
00:35:02
Yeah, I literally sat in here and cried and I sent you a Snapchat but I didn't actually send it you.
00:35:07
accidentally sent it to Dylan and then I had to wait in here until Dylan came and rescued me.
00:35:12
And then we went outside and my neighbor ran his truck into my other neighbor's house.
00:35:16
So was a weird day.
00:35:18
All around.
00:35:20
Yeah, that's a lot.
00:35:21
That's a lot that happened.
00:35:23
Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:35:25
You should clarify everybody's okay.
00:35:27
Yeah, everybody's fine.
00:35:28
Yeah.
00:35:29
And it wasn't even like really the house.
00:35:30
was like the, it like the wall connecting to the house.
00:35:34
Okay, yeah.
00:35:36
So some people have praised this movie for being kind of feminist horror.
00:35:43
And I would kind of agree.
00:35:47
One has credited both Cooper and Bisu for their influence on the movie as to why it is, you know, kind of a feminist take.
00:35:57
But basically they wanted to really kind of hone in on the idea of
00:36:05
this woman losing control of her body.
00:36:07
And they actually had a scene that they cut because they felt like it was too on the nose where at the end Madison was like fighting to get her body back in control.
00:36:17
And she's saying like over and over, like, it's my body, it's my body, it's my body.
00:36:20
And they were like, maybe that's a little too much, but they did still want to kind of hit on that topic of women not being able to be in control of their bodies.
00:36:30
Yeah.
00:36:32
But also, that would make me feel like it's impossible to get a diagnosis for anything as a woman.
00:36:41
Nobody ever believes us when we say we're in fucking pain.
00:36:45
That's true.
00:36:45
Also, um not only because like obviously now people have talked about it more because Roe V Wade was overturned, but also the aspect, not only just that type of control of her
00:36:57
body, but the medical aspect and how it is a lot harder for women to get proper diagnoses.
00:37:04
That's true.
00:37:04
That is a good point.
00:37:07
I actually just saw a TikTok where people, they were making fun of
00:37:11
like men graduating medical school, they give out like a list of symptoms.
00:37:16
And they're like, what is it?
00:37:17
They're trying to figure it out, like house style.
00:37:20
They're like, it's gotta be MS, it covers all of the symptoms.
00:37:24
And she's like, you're missing one important factor.
00:37:27
And they're like, it's a woman.
00:37:30
Oh, it's anxiety.
00:37:31
She's like, correct, you pass.
00:37:36
Yeah.
00:37:37
speaking of at the end of the film, Gabriel does call Madison Madison at the end instead of Emily.
00:37:44
So that gives us a little hint that Madison has taken back control of her body.
00:37:51
And like why we had this complaint about another like unrelated piece of media that we don't need to talk about because we've talked about too many pieces of media already.
00:37:59
em But like
00:38:03
I didn't need the like supernatural power weirdness at the end where she suddenly has like superhuman strength that she didn't have the whole time and
00:38:15
she did, because Gabriel had it.
00:38:18
Right, but then Gabriel was gone, so...
00:38:23
Well, I think the point was that he wasn't really gone.
00:38:25
She just took back control.
00:38:27
Because that's what she says to her sister when her sister's like, you can't move this thing off of me.
00:38:31
And she's like, it was my body the whole time.
00:38:32
Like, I was doing it.
00:38:35
I just didn't think it was necessary for her to be like, he did it.
00:38:39
Now I can.
00:38:41
Oh, you don't want women to take back control of their bodies?
00:38:45
That's not what I said.
00:38:53
Oh, shoot.
00:38:55
Yeah, I mean, I think one's entire point of this, because again, this is not only coming off of the Conjuring and Insidious, but also coming off of Aquaman, where he's taking on
00:39:05
these huge IPs, these very like, big things that I think Insidious was, but at that point, like it was a franchise.
00:39:15
So it wasn't the original idea that like he had started with.
00:39:17
And he wanted to do something that was like, not only a callback to his roots, but also a callback to like 80s movies that he really loved.
00:39:25
And he also said, he's like, I don't know if I will ever get a chance to do a movie like this again.
00:39:30
So while I'm in good graces and while I can get the funding and while I can do this, I'm just going to go balls to the wall.
00:39:37
And that's what he did.
00:39:38
He was like, I'm just going to mash together everything that's ever been an influence on me and put it in one thing.
00:39:43
And that's what this is.
00:39:45
That's something.
00:39:46
It is.
00:39:49
He made the movie he wanted to.
00:39:51
He did.
00:39:54
It was also nominated for awards.
00:39:57
The Dead Meat Horror Awards.
00:39:58
Not, yeah, like, can you imagine?
00:40:03
This won Best Picture.
00:40:06
No, it won, uh it was nominated for five awards at the Dead Meat Horror Awards.
00:40:10
It was nominated for Best Stunts or Choreography, Best Digital Effects, Best Practical Effects, Best Supporting Performer, and Best Original Film, and it won all five.
00:40:23
Yeah, sweeped, some might say.
00:40:26
swept.
00:40:27
Nope.
00:40:29
Sweep it in.
00:40:30
Sweeped, sweep-bye.
00:40:35
Sorry I'm rage baiting you.
00:40:37
Yeah, it's working.
00:40:38
I know.
00:40:40
Another Easter egg?
00:40:41
Mm-hmm.
00:40:43
literally first scene of the movie, like 30 seconds into the movie, you can see the the trophy that Gabriel turns into a weapon in Dr.
00:40:53
Weaver's office.
00:40:54
Yep.
00:40:56
She's filming her little video diary or whatever and it's right behind her.
00:41:00
What?
00:41:00
Why did you say that so condescendingly?
00:41:03
She's filming her little video diary.
00:41:06
Damn, people can't have hobbies anymore.
00:41:09
Well, also super fucking weird to like turn.
00:41:13
I don't know to go from that.
00:41:15
I don't know.
00:41:17
I didn't mean to say condescendingly, but maybe I was.
00:41:20
Projecting how I actually feel.
00:41:22
About the film.
00:41:24
Yeah, we can all tell how you feel about the film.
00:41:27
I didn't hate it.
00:41:29
I didn't hate it.
00:41:31
Thank you.
00:41:32
She's yelling.
00:41:34
Any other fun facts?
00:41:36
Just one more little kind of foreshadowing moment.
00:41:40
When Madison is talking to Gabriel on the phone in the bathroom, the camera's angled so that we can see the back of her head in the mirror and like the front of her.
00:41:53
So it's kind of like, can tell that she's like talking to Gabriel when you rewatch it, obviously.
00:41:59
In that moment, I don't think you really, it triggers, but yeah.
00:42:04
to be a rewatch thing.
00:42:04
Definitely.
00:42:06
Maybe this does.
00:42:07
I mean, I personally cannot watch this ever again.
00:42:11
Oh, okay.
00:42:12
but.
00:42:13
maybe there is rewatchability because it'd be more fun to watch it more than once and like get it, you know?
00:42:22
See, pick up all the pieces.
00:42:24
the third time I've seen it.
00:42:27
I'm, we played it in, I played it in Discord once.
00:42:30
I wasn't there.
00:42:32
You were not.
00:42:33
But it is kind of a fun movie to like see people's reactions to the ending when it goes crazy.
00:42:41
Yeah.
00:42:42
One of my favorite tweets that I saw about this movie was from at Batman Can See You.
00:42:50
Very straightforward, but so true.
00:42:52
Malignant has the best chair throw in movie history.
00:42:55
Yeah, that's valid.
00:42:58
Yeah.
00:42:59
It's a good one.
00:43:00
Yeah.
00:43:02
Well, do you have any other fun facts?
00:43:05
No, I have a complaint.
00:43:07
great, let's hear it.
00:43:08
Okay, what was with the electricity?
00:43:10
Why did we need that?
00:43:12
Again, he's just going balls to the wall, you It's a supernatural horror.
00:43:18
I don't think that this movie intended to be grounded in any way, shape, form.
00:43:23
Yeah.
00:43:23
like, you know, fill its plot holes.
00:43:27
What's a plot hole?
00:43:29
The electricity never explained.
00:43:32
Yeah, why can he get why?
00:43:34
he's like a super powered person.
00:43:38
Okay, fair enough.
00:43:40
Yeah, no, you're right.
00:43:43
Yeah.
00:43:43
that he can do that.
00:43:45
Right, but why?
00:43:47
Why?
00:43:48
you're a person.
00:43:48
Okay, you need everything just like handed to you on a plat- You're like the person asking for Gladys' backstory.
00:43:54
You need to know everything about her.
00:43:56
She can't just be a witch.
00:43:57
which is so funny that you fucking say that because I'm gonna talk weapons when I rate this movie.
00:44:02
okay.
00:44:03
Well, I'm just saying, I think, I don't think you need that information.
00:44:06
It's just he's, he has supernatural powers.
00:44:09
That's just established.
00:44:11
I don't think it's, it's definitely not a plot hole to say that we don't know why he acquired that.
00:44:18
Okay, fine.
00:44:20
Fine.
00:44:22
Good.
00:44:23
Should we rate it?
00:44:25
Okay.
00:44:27
How scary do you think it was?
00:44:29
I give it a .5 out of 5.
00:44:31
It's pretty hard to take this movie seriously, as Wan himself has said, so...
00:44:35
Yeah.
00:44:37
What about you?
00:44:39
I know this movie wasn't supposed to be scary.
00:44:41
I know it wasn't supposed to be taken seriously.
00:44:44
It still freaked me out.
00:44:46
Yeah, I was scared that my power turning off halfway through it probably had something to do with it.
00:44:52
Gabriel was on the ceiling no less than three times.
00:44:55
I don't like things coming from the ceiling.
00:44:57
That bothers me.
00:44:58
em So I gave it a three.
00:45:00
It was pretty scary.
00:45:02
I know it's not supposed to be and I know that's crazy.
00:45:04
no, that's okay.
00:45:05
I just don't understand the tone of this movie.
00:45:07
I just didn't get it.
00:45:09
Yeah, that's fair.
00:45:11
I need to watch it again, but I can't.
00:45:13
Yeah, I'll be honest, the first time I watched this, I really didn't understand the tone either.
00:45:17
It threw me off.
00:45:19
Big time.
00:45:20
I would watch it again just because I could see how it would be better the second time, but I can't.
00:45:26
There's too much sound, bone stuff.
00:45:32
It's just too much.
00:45:34
How sexy did you think it was?
00:45:36
Oh, okay.
00:45:40
didn't feel like a 0.5, but I genuinely have no other explanation for that rating.
00:45:48
You know what's funny?
00:45:50
Exactly the same.
00:45:52
I gave it a one and I couldn't, I couldn't tell you why.
00:45:55
There was just like something about it.
00:45:58
I think it was just like.
00:46:00
the sheer audacity of it, you know?
00:46:03
I can respect it.
00:46:05
Yeah.
00:46:07
Yeah, for sure.
00:46:10
Yeah.
00:46:11
Yeah.
00:46:13
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:46:15
I know this has triggers for you.
00:46:19
It does not have triggers for me.
00:46:20
And again, because like the tone of it, I'm not really taking it seriously.
00:46:25
I gave it a 0.5 out of five, but I could see how it would be higher than that.
00:46:30
Cause there's a lot going on.
00:46:34
For me, it's just a tone thing, but I could see how that could not impact someone.
00:46:39
What did you give it?
00:46:41
Yeah, I mean, this movie fucked me up.
00:46:43
Yeah, that has to count for something.
00:46:46
But yeah, there's gore.
00:46:49
Definitely there's what I would describe as body horror, whether I know what that means or not.
00:46:54
Personally, I would give it a four.
00:46:57
But putting those personal triggers aside, I think it's closer to a two.
00:47:02
So I'll give it a two.
00:47:03
No, it deserves a two.
00:47:06
Yeah, maybe even a 2.5.
00:47:09
Okay.
00:47:10
But like personally, I can't watch this again.
00:47:14
Yeah, I can't do it.
00:47:15
Yeah.
00:47:16
Well, overall, what did you think of Malignant?
00:47:20
I mean, I...
00:47:23
I don't know.
00:47:23
I can't watch it again, so it loses points for that.
00:47:25
That's not its fault necessarily, but the acting was terrible.
00:47:30
The effects were kind of kooky, which maybe there's some charm in that somewhere, but surface level, not really.
00:47:39
The premise could probably be described as offensive, maybe.
00:47:45
But I...
00:47:46
and I also didn't find it as funny as some people did.
00:47:48
Some people found it really funny.
00:47:50
There were a couple of funny parts.
00:47:52
I just, I personally think we did ourselves a disservice watching this immediately after weapons, which does this, the tone that I think this was going for so much better.
00:48:07
Maybe, I don't know.
00:48:09
I don't think they were going for the same tone, but I understand what you're saying.
00:48:12
Yeah, they're like comedy, also horror, but also.
00:48:18
I don't know.
00:48:19
Weapons was more so trying to be a horror movie with elements of comedy because Cregger's background is in comedy, whereas I think Malignant was supposed to be kind of an homage to
00:48:32
like 80s horror.
00:48:33
It was supposed to be a little bit more campy than it was funny, like outright comedy.
00:48:38
Which it was, definitely, that campy.
00:48:44
Yeah, there was no camp that they were at.
00:48:48
You're right.
00:48:49
We finally got you to the point where you understand what camp is.
00:48:54
Over the top.
00:48:55
Ridiculous.
00:48:56
yeah, crazy, yeah.
00:48:58
Anyway, overall I gave it a 2.
00:49:00
I'm sorry, Mike.
00:49:02
You did hate it.
00:49:03
You said you didn't hate it.
00:49:04
I didn't hate it.
00:49:06
Hate it would be like a 1.5 and I'm never gonna shut up about it like, terrifying.
00:49:10
A 1, a 0.5, a 1, a 1.5.
00:49:13
Right, I forget your ratings are different than my ratings.
00:49:15
Because when I rate something at two, I hate it.
00:49:17
40 % is...
00:49:20
at three, you say, hate it.
00:49:22
Yeah, I judge us on different.
00:49:25
Yeah, because...
00:49:27
I'm not supposed to like horror movies.
00:49:29
So a two is like.
00:49:32
You weren't supposed to like horror movies a hundred movies ago.
00:49:37
I'm still learning.
00:49:40
Anyway, I gave it a two.
00:49:42
Sorry, Mike.
00:49:44
Yeah, he's never going to listen to another episode.
00:49:48
I have to speak my truth.
00:49:49
OK, all right.
00:49:50
Here you go.
00:49:51
Yeah.
00:49:52
No, I do like this movie more than you, obviously.
00:49:56
I can't explain how much I want to like it more than I do.
00:50:03
I still gave it a 3.5 out of 5, because I do think the ending is so much fun.
00:50:08
And it's just, I love how bonkers it is.
00:50:11
And especially because Wan was doing a lot of things.
00:50:15
Listen, is one of my favorite horror movies ever.
00:50:18
I love Saw, I'm a Saw defender, right?
00:50:21
And then Wan went and like did The Conjuring and Insidious and like all these movies that I didn't really like.
00:50:27
And I understand they're big movies.
00:50:29
A lot of people love them and I understand that.
00:50:31
They just weren't for me.
00:50:33
And so to see him kind of like go back to this was really refreshing.
00:50:37
And so I really loved that.
00:50:39
I felt like it was kind of like a middle ground that we could find, me and Wan, James.
00:50:46
Jim.
00:50:50
but yeah, I, so I, I wish I liked it more.
00:50:53
Like I almost wish I could give it like a full point more just because it's like what I wanted from him.
00:51:00
But for me, there's just kind of a disconnect between the first part and the last half.
00:51:06
Like I, I almost wish that the last, last half, which obviously you have to build up to something.
00:51:11
You can't go bat balls to the wall the whole time.
00:51:13
oh
00:51:14
But I wish it had matched the tone a little bit more.
00:51:17
Because again, the first time I watched it, I was like, what is happening right now?
00:51:22
Like, I knew it wasn't supposed to be taken seriously, but it still was like, I need you to lean a little bit more into that before I can get fully on board.
00:51:30
And he does at the end, magnificently.
00:51:32
I love the ending of this movie.
00:51:34
It's so stupid.
00:51:35
Positive in a good way.
00:51:37
Yeah.
00:51:38
But yeah, so I still gave it a 3.5 because I do like this movie and I do like making people watch this movie.
00:51:43
So I understand why Mike recommended it because it's a fun one to make people watch.
00:51:48
yeah, all in all, I do like this movie.
00:51:53
I want to like it so much more though.
00:51:55
Yeah, so fair.
00:51:58
mean, yeah, I want to like it.
00:51:59
I want to like all the movies.
00:52:01
Yeah, sure.
00:52:03
Debbie Downer over here.
00:52:05
It just scared me.
00:52:07
Oh, that's actually, I'm so sorry.
00:52:10
That's fun though.
00:52:11
We haven't had a movie that like really got you in a while.
00:52:14
Weapons scared me, I think I gave it a 3, too.
00:52:18
Did you?
00:52:18
Oh.
00:52:22
Maybe just because I started watching movies in the dark.
00:52:25
I have told you repeatedly that you need to do that and you keep saying, it doesn't impact my rating.
00:52:30
And every time you watch a movie in the dark, it's higher.
00:52:32
Yeah, well, then this movie I watched and then yeah.
00:52:39
That didn't help.
00:52:40
I think that should be a goal for you to start watching more of these movies in the dark and just see how it goes.
00:52:48
Yeah, remember when I watched us in the dark and I almost peed myself?
00:52:52
That's the scariest I've been watching.
00:52:53
No, Annihilation.
00:52:55
And I watched that in the light.
00:52:57
If I had watched Annihilation in the dark, I don't think I ever would have recovered.
00:53:02
Remember when you said, is an Annihilation on our list?
00:53:04
And I said, it's not a horror movie so confidently.
00:53:07
And then it's the most scared you've ever been.
00:53:10
Yeah.
00:53:12
That movie did not scare me at all, I don't know why.
00:53:15
Well, I don't know that it's supposed to be.
00:53:17
Well, people say that the bear scene is the scariest scene that they've ever seen.
00:53:21
That's not even the scene that scared me.
00:53:23
See, I've heard both.
00:53:25
I've heard, I feel like most people say the bear scene, but I have seen quite a lot of people say the lighthouse scene, like just unnerved them in a way that they haven't felt
00:53:36
before.
00:53:37
So I don't think you're alone in that, but it just didn't hit for me, I'm sorry.
00:53:41
And it's just the music.
00:53:43
Like, 100 % the music is what makes that movie so fucking scary.
00:53:47
The music was my favorite part of the lighthouse scene.
00:53:51
Yeah, it should be.
00:53:53
The rest of it's kind of weird.
00:53:56
Yeah, it just wasn't for me.
00:53:58
Anyways, the real question here is would you survive your parasitic twin, Gabriel?
00:54:04
Thank you.
00:54:04
Well, so that's the thing is I was trying to do math here and I also wasn't necessarily putting myself in the shoes of
00:54:14
Okay.
00:54:14
The main girl, Emily, but what's her other name?
00:54:19
Madison?
00:54:20
Madison.
00:54:22
So was trying to do math.
00:54:23
was like, OK, if I'm Madison, there's a 50-50 % chance that I win, right?
00:54:29
I mean, live.
00:54:31
guess, I think it's more so like, do you think, are you confident in your ability to take that control?
00:54:37
I think you have to assess your willpower if you're putting yourself in Madison's position.
00:54:43
I don't have willpower, so I'm dead.
00:54:46
But also you have to, like, he's holding people hostage.
00:54:51
think I live because if I'm putting myself in a situation where I have a parasitic twin and I have to take back control and they have a gun to my sister's head, like I'm taking
00:55:00
back control.
00:55:02
I don't have willpower for myself.
00:55:05
But if it came down to like my sister, yeah, a family member that you love, like yeah, I'm pulling through, I think.
00:55:16
Okay, fair.
00:55:17
I think I agree with that.
00:55:19
Yeah.
00:55:19
And also, I think there's even an argument to be made that if she didn't take back control, she might still have lived because he needed her body.
00:55:28
It probably wouldn't have been the best time, but.
00:55:34
Yeah.
00:55:35
Okay, that argument alone.
00:55:38
I didn't even get into the other half of the math that I was doing, but that's
00:55:42
considering if you were someone else in this story, do you think you would live?
00:55:46
Well, I think I think I was more doing the like, what are the statistics like who lives and who dies?
00:55:55
And if I put myself in the twins, there's a 50/50 chance that I live through it.
00:56:00
If I put myself in everybody else, there's like a 40/60 % chance I live with it just based on how many people die in the prison alone.
00:56:08
Not that I would be any of them.
00:56:09
Right, like, would you be-
00:56:11
Yeah.
00:56:13
If I'm anybody besides Madison in this situation, I think I'd be like the sister or a friend or something.
00:56:18
I'm not a cop.
00:56:19
I'm not a prisoner.
00:56:20
You'd be in jail.
00:56:21
You love jail.
00:56:22
And then I'm also not a doctor making medical revelations about parasitic twins.
00:56:28
So I'm not on Gabriel's list.
00:56:32
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have me.
00:56:37
I'm the main character.
00:56:39
I think so.
00:56:40
Okay, and then I live because of the argument that you made for me.
00:56:44
Thank you.
00:56:46
Keeping us both alive.
00:56:47
m
00:56:50
Okay.
00:56:51
Alright, would you like to predict next week's movie?
00:56:55
Movies, if you will.
00:56:56
You only have to predict one of them.
00:56:57
But we are going to be watching the original House of Wax as well as the remake that came out in 2005.
00:57:05
Do you want the years?
00:57:06
The original came out in 1953 and the remake came out in 2005.
00:57:12
Yes.
00:57:13
Yes.
00:57:14
I know some things about these movies.
00:57:17
I know that Paris Hilton is in the remake, so it can't be great.
00:57:22
That's where you'd be wrong.
00:57:26
Just kidding.
00:57:27
Well, we'll find out.
00:57:28
Okay, yeah.
00:57:31
And there's a couple recognizable faces in the new one.
00:57:34
Yeah, for sure.
00:57:36
I mean, I think it's in the title.
00:57:37
I think they're at a wax museum.
00:57:40
And it's a bunch of high schoolers.
00:57:42
Well, in the remake, I don't know about the original.
00:57:43
Let's just focus on the remake because that's more.
00:57:45
Yeah, it's a bunch of high schoolers.
00:57:48
They go to a wax museum and.
00:57:52
They, the Wax, one of the Wax museum characters isn't actually a Wax museum character.
00:57:58
It's a person covered in wax that's going around and killing them.
00:58:02
And then when they kill them, when the Wax man kills the people, he turns them into wax people too.
00:58:10
And then they're on display in the Wax museum.
00:58:13
Got it, okay.
00:58:15
House of wax, it's right there.
00:58:17
What did call it earlier?
00:58:18
Hall of Wax?
00:58:19
There'll be a hall in the movie too, guaranteed.
00:58:23
There's a house, there's typically a hall.
00:58:26
Yeah.
00:58:27
And I think Paris Hilton dies because that makes sense.
00:58:31
Great.
00:58:32
Yeah, and I think it's a quite the departure from the original.
00:58:37
okay, you think the original is like, way different?
00:58:41
Yeah, I don't think it's high school.
00:58:43
I think it's older people, not older, but like a family maybe.
00:58:48
Yeah.
00:58:48
visiting a wax museum or like a circusy kind of thing and they get added to the museum.
00:58:56
So I guess it's like similar.
00:58:58
Similar, like antiquated.
00:59:02
right.
00:59:03
They gotta make the remakes younger and sexier for sure.
00:59:09
Yeah.
00:59:11
Great.
00:59:12
Cool.
00:59:14
Hooray.
00:59:16
Not bad.
00:59:17
Yeah, I think that it's in the title.
00:59:22
Yeah, and the poster.
00:59:23
I know the poster is like somebody's face.
00:59:28
I didn't get like, yeah, I didn't get like, yeah, but I didn't get like, she's melting.
00:59:35
I got like something's melting on her, you know?
00:59:41
the wax melting Yeah, yeah, yeah Got it She's not of course got it.
00:59:48
Okay All right.
00:59:50
Nice
00:59:52
Great.
00:59:54
I'm excited.
00:59:55
Me too.
00:59:56
I didn't realize that there was an old one of this.
01:00:02
Yeah, there is.
01:00:04
fun so we get to watch that.
01:00:07
Mm-hmm.
01:00:08
Well, tell us in the comments your favorite movie of all 9 we talked about in this episode.
01:00:16
Yeah, let us know in the comments what your favorite film bro movie is.
01:00:21
Yeah.
01:00:22
And if it's not too much to ask, maybe if you're a boy or a girl so we can judge you accordingly.
01:00:30
I'm just kidding, you don't have to do that.
01:00:32
Yeah, tell us your favorite red flag for a guy, white flag for a girl movie.
01:00:38
Which is also your favorite film bro movie.
01:00:41
It's a Venn diagram that's a circle.
01:00:44
Great, cool.
01:00:46
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01:00:49
If you want to suggest a movie that kd's gonna hate, just like Mike did, let us know in the comments.
01:00:57
Sorry, Mike.
01:00:57
again to Mike for the suggestion.
01:00:59
It was on our list eventually.
01:01:00
You were gonna watch it eventually.
01:01:02
Better now than later, you know?
01:01:04
now we just made a poor fan suggested first, which is a shame.
01:01:10
Sorry, Mike.
01:01:12
It's fine.
01:01:13
We'll get them next time.
01:01:13
All right, we will see you next Tuesday.
01:01:17
Thank you so much for listening.
01:01:19
Bye.