131. The Orphanage | Horror Movie Releases August 2025

Kd (00:25) Hello? Cassidy (00:27) Hi, happy Tuesday. Kd (00:29) Happy Tuesday! August! Cassidy (00:33) Not yet. This is the last episode of July. Yeah. Kd (00:39) ⁓ that's when we do August movies. Yep. Cassidy (00:43) Yes, it is. Speaking of, I have August movies for us. Kd (00:48) Hooray! Cassidy (00:50) If you clicked on this and you have no idea who we are, we're the Killer Cuties Podcast. Welcome in. Kd (00:54) yeah. Yeah, thank you for being here. Cassidy (00:56) I appreciate you being here. Anyways, I am going to tell you what new horror movies are coming out in August, and then kd's going to tell you news, and then we're going to talk about The Orphanage. Kd (01:05) Yes, please. 2007 version. Don't make the same mistake I did by watching the 2014 version. Cassidy (01:12) Yeah. I didn't know there was one, so I apologize that that happened to you. Kd (01:17) It's on Tubi. Cassidy (01:22) I'm okay. Catch us on episode 1,217 where we talk about The Orphanage 2014. Kd (01:31) Yeah, because we've run out of all other movies. Yeah. Cassidy (01:33) Yeah, we watched everything else. All right, August Horror Movies. Coming out on the 8th. It's a big day. We like five movies coming out. First up, Weapons. We've talked about it before. It's the new Zach Cregger movie. Little summary of that. When all but one child from the same class mysteriously vanish on the same night at exactly the same time, a community is left questioning who or what is behind their disappearance. I was very excited for this. And then they got in a little hot water recently. This isn't my news section, but kind of, because they put out a little teaser trailer that was animated and it was pretty clear that it was AI. They have quietly taken it down after all of the comments were commenting on the fact that it was AI. And they haven't said anything else about that, so unfortunate. Anyways, moving on, also on the 8th, we've got Strange Harvest coming out. Kd (02:16) no. dear. Cassidy (02:35) are thrust into a chilling hunt for Mr. Shiny, sadistic serial killer from the past whose return marks the beginning of a new wave of grotesque otherworldly crimes tied to a dark cosmic force. Kd (02:48) Okay, alien. Cassidy (02:50) Sure, cosmic would make sense. Kd (02:53) Mm-hmm. Cassidy (02:55) Next we have Site: while inspecting an abandoned military site. Site! Neil suffers a mind-altering time distortion. Soon after, hallucinations of strangers and troubling events from the past bleed into Neil's reality. One vision is so traumatic, it leads to an accident that nearly blinds his only son. With his life unraveling and his son's sight hanging in the balance, I don't know why it's hanging in the balance if he's already been blinded, but that's fine, Neil must uncover the secrets of the facility and the soul-shattering truth of his hallucinations. Kd (03:26) Okay, that sounds really stupid, but okay. Cassidy (03:29) ⁓ you heard it here first. It sounds really stupid. Next up we have Birthrite. When a pregnant woman is bequeathed a home from an estranged aunt, she and her girlfriend, Gay, leave the city behind to begin a new chapter. But when a karmic debt threatens the life of their unborn child, they soon discover their place in the cursed history of the town. We're getting a lot of plots that feel very convoluted. Kd (03:52) Okay. Yeah, that was a lot to take in. But hey, LGBT. Cassidy (03:57) Yeah, I'm... Right, if there's girlfriends, I'm in, you know? I'm a simple lad. All right, Shaman is the last one coming out on the 8th. A missionary converting an indigenous community in a remote Ecuadorian volcano must come to terms with her own faith when her son is possessed by dark forces older than her religion. Kd (04:05) Yeah, yeah. Okay. Cassidy (04:25) They live in the volcano apparently. Kd (04:28) Okay, that's a choice. Cassidy (04:31) These movies sound so good. I can't wait to see all of them. On the 15th, we have two movies. One is Witchboard: In New Orleans, Emily and her fiance Christian are opening their new dream cafe, but their dreams are dashed when Emily finds an ancient cursed witch board, an ancient artifact that once served as a gateway to the spirit world. Ouija board, I think. Kd (04:35) Yeah. Cassidy (04:52) As Emily becomes increasingly captivated by the board's ability to summon spirits, they find themselves trapped in a deadly web of witchcraft and dark desires. This one actually does have early good reviews, but we've talked about that before. We don't really know if that holds a lot of weight, but maybe promising. Who knows? Yeah, next we have Jimmy and Stigg's. Kd (05:10) Yeah. Who's to say. Cassidy (05:15) A shitstorm of bad news sends out of work filmmaker Jimmy Lang, spiraling into a bender during which he claims to have been abducted by aliens. Fearing they'll come back, he contacts his old friend Stigg to help him gear up for war. When the sun sets, the duo are thrown into hallucinatory explosion of aliens, drugs, booze, and all out carnage. This feels like horror Bill and Ted. Kd (05:40) Yeah. Which is... All that is is... Cassidy (05:41) I've never actually seen Bill and Ted, so I don't know if that's true, but. Kd (05:46) You know, the chainsaw one. with Alan Tudyk, Tucker and Dale. That's horror Bill and Ted. Cassidy (05:50) Tucker and Dale. Got it, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's actually more fair. Yeah, anyways, that one's presented by Eli Roth. He's producing it. So if you're a fan of him, maybe you'll like it. Kd (05:58) Thank you. He's made movies. Cassidy (06:06) He has made films. Some people have watched them. Anyways, on 8/20, we have Hell House LLC Lineage, the next installment in that franchise. Haunted by visions of recurring nightmares years after a near-death experience, Vanessa finds herself living in the town of Abaddon, unable to break free from its unexplainable hold on her. When people around her suddenly and inexplicably begin to die, she soon uncovers her terrifying connection to the Abaddon Hotel, the Carmichael Manor, and the mysterious murders that have been occurring there for decades. Kd (06:16) yeah? Okay. Cassidy (06:42) I kinda like the Hell House series, so I'm excited for that one. Last, on the 29th, we are finally having the Toxic Avenger. When a downtrodden janitor, Winston Gooze, is exposed to a catastrophic toxic event, he's transformed into a new kind of hero, the Toxic Avenger. Now, Toxie must rise from outcast to savior, taking on ruthless corporate overlords. Geez, I can't talk. Kd (06:45) Yeah. Okay. Cassidy (07:09) and corrupt forces who threaten his son, his friends, and his community in a world where greed runs rampant, justice is best served radioactive. Kd (07:19) I'm Cassidy (07:20) I'm probably gonna see it. It sounds very anti-capitalist, which I like, so... Kd (07:24) Yeah. And it's not rated. Cassidy (07:28) should be interesting. Kd (07:28) That's yeah, there's that. Cassidy (07:31) There is. Kd (07:32) Okay, well, that's what you have to look forward to next month. And I've got some news. I won't talk nearly as long as you just did. Cassidy (07:39) Yeah, sorry, that was kind of a lot. They looked so short when I was putting them up. Kd (07:43) No, no, not at all, not at all. well first, Matthew Lillard, we find a chance to talk about him in every episode. His whiskey brand Macabre Spirits just announced a new whiskey called Hell Is Not Mocked. It is an 80, sorry, it's a 98 proof Texas whiskey in a beautiful matte black bottle. It's actually very beautiful. It's got like a little stage on it with a performer in the middle. It's paired with a short story. Cassidy (07:49) Hell yeah. Mmm. Kd (08:08) Written by Matthew's roommate from his time working at the Renaissance Festival 35 years ago. His name is Christopher Buehlman. Matthew describes Buehlman's writing as gritty and unforgettable, so he mashed it with this run of whiskey that he calls just as bold and haunted. According to Bloody Disgusting, the story that it's paired with is a dark western gothic tale set in a sunscorched land where the dead don't stay buried. Cassidy (08:13) Mmm. Interesting. He did a collaboration with Flanagan once too, didn't he? With a story that Flanagan wrote. I'm almost positive that he did. I feel like we talked about it all the time. But it was a while ago, yeah. But he partnered with him. Flanagan wrote a story and he paired a whiskey with it too. That's fun that he's like continuing to do that. Yeah, I like that a lot. Kd (08:34) zombies. I don't know, did he? That's fun. we probably did. Oh fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cute. I like it. This is only the second whiskey he's run. So if it if that happened, it was their first and only other whiskey. Cassidy (09:03) that's so sexy. I hope I didn't just lie. That'd crazy if I did. Kd (09:06) Yeah, I thought the first one was more D &D vibes. But I could be wrong. Cassidy (09:11) ⁓ Yes, his first one came with an 80 page novella written by Mike Flanagan. Kd (09:19) Cute, 80 pages, that's pretty good. Cassidy (09:22) Yeah! Kd (09:24) So fun. Well, anyway, keep an eye out for that one. Cassidy (09:27) Exciting. Yeah, if you like whiskey and horror. Kd (09:33) zombies. Cassidy (09:34) Zombies. What's next? Kd (09:37) So there weren't a lot of huge news is so I'm just going to rapid fire a bunch of little ones. And then we can talk about The Orphanage. Yeah, yeah. OK, so V/H/S/Halloween will be released on October 3rd on Shudder and Paco Plaza who did REC is doing a segment. Yeah, so fun, so fun. REC fucking slapped. Yeah. Cassidy (09:43) Hell yeah. Love that. my gosh, I like that. Yeah, REC was good. Weirdly, I'm gonna talk about REC later in this episode. Isn't that weird? Kd (10:02) yeah, that is weird. Alien Earth got a four minute long sneak peek. You go watch that now. Roger L. Jackson, the voice of Ghostface, is set to narrate the newly announced Scream franchise's behind the scenes audiobook titled Your Favorite Scary Movie. Yep. Shin Godzilla's 4K remaster got a trailer in preparation for its August 14th re-release in theaters. Cassidy (10:08) Mmm. Have fun! Okay. Kd (10:27) Tickets are now on sale for the unrated Peter Dinklage movie, The Toxic Avenger. Makes sense, seeing as that's coming out in a couple weeks. There are three new official posters for The Strangers Chapter 2. You can go and check those out. And the new Samara Weaving Horror movie, Eenie Meanie just got an R rating for Bloody Violence and Nudity. Cassidy (10:32) There we go. Kd (10:48) except I wrote Bloody Silence and Doodity. So I'm glad I read that correctly the first time. Cassidy (10:55) Yeah, you really nailed it. Kd (10:57) Yeah, thank you. Anyways, yeah, fun little tiny tidbits. also the Buffy reboot got its cast. You can go check that out too if you're interested. I didn't recognize anybody. Cassidy (11:00) Wow, all fun, fun stuff. Yeah. Yeah, they announced some of the new cast it looks like. It looks like kind of the new generation. I don't know as though they've confirmed anybody besides Sarah, right? As returning. Yeah. Kd (11:21) Yeah, I don't think so. Well, as returning, yeah, just her. Which is too bad, because Angel could come back. Cassidy (11:30) Yeah. I feel like the vampires coming back, I mean, they could just make up like some campy excuse as to why they've aged and it would be fine. But if they're still vampires, it doesn't really make a lot of sense. They could have been like cursed or something. ⁓ Kd (11:43) Yeah, and also Angel probably dies. Does he die? Does Angel die? Cassidy (11:49) Why would I ever tell you that? I'm not spoiling the show for you. Kd (11:52) Well, your face said it when I was like, yeah, they could bring Angel back. Cassidy (11:56) No, I meant just cause, you know, vampires age. Also, death is not the end. They could bring back anybody. It's a supernatural show, so even if a character dies, that doesn't necessarily mean that you will never see them again. Kd (11:58) Yeah, that's. Yeah, that's so true. Yeah. Yeah, so true. Maybe he'll come back as his IRL dad. Oh, no, that doesn't make sense either. Okay, well, I don't know. Cassidy (12:16) No, it doesn't. He's not from this century. Kd (12:23) He could come back as one of the new generations dad. And then there could be like just like a little comment from Buffy about, wow, he just looks so familiar. But yeah. Cassidy (12:34) You look like an ex. That would be funny. Yeah, I've already heard theories and stuff about how people want to bring back characters who may have passed, so I think there's a lot of options they could have for that. The world is their oyster. Kd (12:45) Yeah. Yeah, it'll be fun. But yeah, go check out the casting news, the posters, the trailers. ⁓ Cassidy (12:57) Just do it all. Do it, lady. Kd (12:58) Yeah, go check it all out. Cassidy (13:00) All right, should we talk about The Orphanage? Okay, little summary. Kd (13:02) Let's do it. Cassidy (13:06) has happy memories of her childhood in an orphanage. She convinces her husband to buy the place and convert it into a home for sick children. One day her adopted son, Simone, disappears. Simone is critically ill and when he is still missing several months later, he is presumed dead. Grief-stricken, Laura believes she hears spirits who may or may not be trying to help her find the boy. That's from IMDb. It was directed by J.A. Boyana. The screenplay was by Sergio G. Sanchez. It stars Belen Rueda and Fernando Cayo. It had a budget of $5.3 million. Don't worry, I did the conversion from euros for everybody. You're welcome. And it made about 76 million at the box office. It currently has a 7.4 out of 10 on IMDb, a 3.6 out of five on Letterboxd, an 86 % audience score and an 87 % critic score on Rotten Tomatoes. Kd (13:42) Thank you. very similar. Cassidy (13:59) very similar. Yeah, that's what we're looking at. Kd (14:05) Cool. This movie's just horror Phantom of the Opera. Cassidy (14:08) Well, no one gets kidnapped. Kd (14:11) in Phantom of the Opera or in The Orphanage. Cassidy (14:14) in the orphanage. Kd (14:15) he goes missing. Cassidy (14:17) Okay, I may. Kd (14:19) The orphanage is the opera house. Benigna is Tomas and Tomas are Madame Girie and the Phantom. Cassidy (14:22) Okay. Kd (14:29) There's a party where everyone's wearing masks. That's Masquerade. There's the weird thing where she has to put the orphanage back to its former glory. That's literally how the movie starts. The play, the movie, all of it. I'm just saying. Cassidy (14:43) I guess I didn't draw those parallels, but thank you. Yeah. Kd (14:48) You're welcome. New ownership. The orphanage is under new ownership. So is the opera house. Cassidy (14:55) Mm-hmm. Yeah. great segue into movies that actually were inspirations for the film. Kd (15:01) Hahaha! Cassidy (15:03) To prepare for the role as Laura, Bayona had Rueda watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind and The Innocents. Kind of makes sense. He said close encounters, but obviously ghosts instead of aliens. And then the Innocents makes sense if you've seen it, but yeah. I know the writer too said that there were a lot of comparisons made to other films and he always found it funny because the films that people would give him didn't have anything in common with each other, but they were all being related to this movie. Kd (15:17) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cassidy (15:37) So he said he got the others a lot, which we've talked about. And then as soon as Del Toro was announced as one of the producers, people said Pan's Labyrinth. And he's like, look at Pan's Labyrinth and you look at the others, they have nothing in common. everybody was saying that this movie was a little bit of both of those. So he thought that that was kind of funny. Kd (15:52) Nothing. Yeah, what? Because it's from Spain because it's Guillermo del Toro. Like what? That is that's out. That's all. Cassidy (16:03) Yeah, I mean, I guess a kid goes missing. We're just seeing it from her perspective in Pan's Labyrinth, so it's... She doesn't feel like she's missing to us, but yeah. I can see pieces of it that are similar, but... it's so good. I haven't either, but it's... ⁓ Yeah, that movie slaps. Mm-hmm. Kd (16:13) Yeah, I guess. Okay, I haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth in a long time. Yeah. I remembered loving it. Yeah, I watched it once and then I just I've listened to the soundtrack all the time. Cassidy (16:30) Yeah, I think the first time I saw it was in Spanish class. They let us watch it. And I was like, hell yeah, I love Spanish class. Kd (16:34) ⁓ fun. Yeah, right. But yeah, no, this was an international co-production film between Spain and Mexico. And in 2008, it was Spain's official submission to the best foreign language film category of the 80th annual Academy Awards. Cassidy (16:46) Mm-hmm. It was. It did not make the nominations, which is a shame. Yeah, well. ⁓ yeah, my feelings on this movie are. Kd (17:01) No, it is a shame. Or is it? We'll tell you later when we rate it. Mum. It's a secret. Cassidy (17:12) you'll never know until 25 minutes from now. Shh. It did, it opened at the Cannes Film Festival in 2007. It got a 10 minute standing ovation. And even though the American Oscars snubbed it, maybe, find out in 25 minutes if we think it was snubbed or not, the Goya Awards, which are kind of the Spanish equivalents, they did not. This was nominated for 14 Goya Awards. It ended up winning seven of them. the most nominations and the most wins of any film that year. It won best original screenplay, new director, art direction, production, supervision, ⁓ sound, special effects, and makeup and hairstyling. And then it was nominated, but it lost in best film, best actress, best supporting actress, new actor, costume design, original score, and editing, which was won by REC. Yeah, there we go. Tying it back. Tying it back to the news. Kd (17:53) Crazy. Yay. Fun, fun. Yeah, it was the second. No, sorry. It scored the biggest box office opening for a film in its name of Spain. Just barely outgrossing Pan's Labyrinth from the year before. Cassidy (18:20) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Kd (18:37) Speaking of, tying it back. Cassidy (18:38) Yeah. We're just connecting dots all over the goddamn place today. Yeah. Kd (18:43) Yeah, it's insane. It's crazy. So unlike us. Cassidy (18:46) Mm-hmm. But it also outgrossed Shrek the Third and Pirates of the Caribbean at World's End, which both came out that year as well. In Spain. But yes, in Spain, to be clear. That's it, did very well. Kd (18:56) in Spain. Yeah. Lots of fun little Easter eggs throughout this one. My favorite. Well, first of all, growing up, did your grandparents have in their bathroom a like wooden plaque with like a printed beach scene and then a poem called The Footprints? Cassidy (19:06) Mm-hmm. of the god and how he's there's in the hardest times in the hardest times there was only one set of footprints and that's when god was carrying you i don't remember them having the plaque but i do remember that story Kd (19:27) He's I carried you Yeah. Yes. Yeah, my grandparents had a bathroom designed to match the plaque that they bought with the footprints around the plaque. Yeah, it was all it was all like beachy. Yep. Yeah, anyway, when Laura and Simone are walking on the beach, Simone's footprints vanish for a few steps before reappearing. So it's like foreshadowing of him. Cassidy (19:50) They designed around the god prince. Interesting. That's really fun. Yeah, it's not, to be clear, in the film, it is not a reference to God carrying you through the hard times. Yeah. Kd (20:12) dying connect. No, no, no, No, no. No. So silly. Cassidy (20:26) Was that the only Easter egg we're gonna talk about? Kd (20:29) No, I have several more. Two more. Cassidy (20:32) Yeah, great. Tell us, tell them to us. Kd (20:35) During the paranormal investigation conference thing, the paranormal investigator guy explains that the Herald of Death appears as oneself. So like your doppelganger. And then at the end, Cassidy (20:40) Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Kd (20:52) the climax, if you will, when Laura commits suicide after finding Simone's body, she sees a vision of herself as a child. That's her doppelganger, her herald of death. And then she dies. Cassidy (21:04) Yeah. Kd (21:07) Good one. Good little tie. Cassidy (21:08) Yeah, that is... Yeah? What was your other one? Kd (21:13) Oh, yeah, this Peter Pan thing. The Peter Pan thing was all foreshadowing to during the scene when Simone and Laura are talking about Peter Pan, a lot of their dialogue foreshadows the end of the Simone asks Laura if Peter Pan comes to get him, was she going to go too? That is a little foreshadowing. And then Peter Pan has also always been sort of like theorized to be like an angel that takes kids to heaven. So, yeah. Cassidy (21:16) Yeah. Yeah. Nice. I have more to add. Kd (21:43) Cute. Okay, I think I know what you're going to add and that was in my section of Guillermo del Toro fun facts, not Easter egg fun facts. But the please. Cassidy (21:58) That's crazy because they don't have anything to with Guillermo del Toro. But yeah, I think I know what you're talking about and that's also in my Del Toro facts. We're aligned. I was going to say when Laura is changing the house to make it look like it was in the past, she sets up one room as the bedroom and she has eight beds. Kd (22:02) Okay, well you do yours and then we'll go back to my gdt step. good, good, good, good, good. Okay. ⁓ Cassidy (22:26) there were only six orphans, including Tomás. So that could be seen as a foreshadowing that both her and Simone were both going to be joining as the seventh and eighth orphans. And then the other little Easter egg was Laura's necklace is a St. Anthony medallion and St. Anthony was the patron saint of lost items. Yeah. Kd (22:37) Yeah. Hmm. Wow. Who would your patron saint be? Cassidy (22:55) Can I tell you, I once received a coin, kind of medallion type thing, of a patron saint that was gifted to me. And it was, I can't remember who did their name, but it was the patron saint of anxiety and mental illness. So... Kd (23:12) ⁓ dear. Well... Cassidy (23:15) So someone thought that that was representative of me and they were right. Kd (23:22) Yeah, cute, cute, cute, cute. I asked my ex-nun great aunt who smuggled me off a cruise ship into Mexico for my first beer when I was 18 years old, who she thinks my patron saint should be. And she said, St. Francis of Assisi, the patron saint of animals. Cassidy (23:31) Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. Yeah. that's very nice, that's very on brand. Kd (23:50) Yes, I thought so too. Cassidy (23:52) I don't really know all of the patron saints. Kd (23:56) Me neither, that's the only one I know. Cassidy (23:58) Yeah, I think I'd be the patron saint of hanging out, chilling. Kd (24:04) Yeah, relaxing. ⁓ Cassidy (24:07) Having a nap, that feels like me. Kd (24:11) cozy. Cassidy (24:12) Mm-hmm. Kd (24:13) Now we can talk about our GDT fun facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, thanks. uncredited, but plays a part in the movie. He plays the emergency room doctor who fixes Laura's leg after she hurts her leg. Cassidy (24:16) Great, kick us off. Yep, he's in it. Kd (24:32) I don't know that I, even after having just watched this film, I don't know that I can tell you what he looks like. Cassidy (24:39) Oh. Okay. Kd (24:41) I would not recognize him in a lineup. Cassidy (24:44) think I would. Kd (24:46) any director. I don't think I can't think of a single director that'd be like, yeah, that's what's his face. Cassidy (24:52) I think I could identify Del Toro. Taika Waititi, James Wan, Leigh Whannell, Kd (24:55) I could identify James Wan. yeah, Taika Waititi. No, I couldn't do anyone else. Cassidy (25:02) I could, that's my boy right there. ⁓ I could probably identify Ari Aster, Jordan Peele. Obviously, that'd be crazy. Mike Flanagan, absolutely. Kd (25:04) Yeah. yeah, Jordan Peele, obviously. Mike Flanagan just looks like a finance bro, so. And there are not enough women directors. Cassidy (25:20) Grata Gerwig, I could probably peg her. Well, I wouldn't say no. ⁓ Kd (25:22) yeah. Yeah. That too. Yeah. Cassidy (25:31) Yeah. But then you get into the big names and it's like, that's just a man. You know what I mean? Like James Cameron, I know what he looks like. But if I saw him walking on the street, I probably wouldn't look twice. If I saw Jordan Peele on the street, Kd (25:38) Yeah. Well... yeah, I know what he looks like. Yeah. Cassidy (25:50) I would respectfully stay calm, but be very excited. You know? Kd (25:50) Selfie. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, I do know what James Cameron looks like. Christopher Nolan. I know what he looks like. Cassidy (26:00) Yeah. I know what he looks like, but again, that's just a guy. That's just a man on the street. Kd (26:06) That's just a white dude. Yeah. Cassidy (26:11) I could prob- I maybe have walked past Christopher Nolan and did not look- You know what I mean? Kd (26:16) Yeah, it's possible. Cassidy (26:19) It is possible. Kd (26:20) That's one of the things like when I die, I want to know all the people that I like talk to or engage with that like, or like even saw walk past just barely missed. Cassidy (26:23) Mm-hmm. Yeah. I once shared an elevator with Trisha Paytas, but I did not know who she was at the time, because I didn't grow up, I didn't do the whole like YouTuber thing. I wasn't a fan of them. So I didn't know who she was. And there was a talent agency in the office building that I worked at. And so I was going to the floor above her and she got off. And then in the ride up to the next floor. Kd (26:40) Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah. Cassidy (26:58) The other girl in the elevator was like, my God, that was Trisha Paytas. And I was like, my God, I don't know who that is. And now I think back on that a Kd (27:03) Yeah. Yeah. She, she only got really big in the last couple of years. She was like fine. Cassidy (27:11) No, she was really big, but in the YouTube world. I feel like she's kind of broken containment recently because of TikTok, but she's been big in that world for a long time. Kd (27:16) Yeah. Yes, yes. Cassidy (27:26) Anyways, we got off topic. Kd (27:29) Yeah. The other Guillermo del Toro fact that I have is that one of the orphan children in the photo that Laura is picking through has that name. Just a little, a little fun nod. And then of course, the dolls, one of them is also named that because one of the orphans was named that. Yeah. So one of the six orphans that are at the end, the ghosts is named Guillermo too. Cassidy (27:34) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Right. one of them's little Guillermo. Yeah, that's fun. Because of this movie's popularity in Spain, in 2007, Same year it came out, New Line Cinema bought the rights to produce an English language we make with Del Toro still producing. They cycled through, there were a few directors who were attached at some points. I think even in 2011, they announced that Amy Adams was going to be starring in it. And then kaput, nothing after that. Kd (28:14) Yeah. Cassidy (28:31) No news. So clearly it didn't happen because that was over 10 years ago. Almost 15 years ago now. And yeah, no news since then. I can't find anything about it past 2011. So it doesn't seem to be on the radar anymore. Probably not going to happen. Kd (28:31) Weird. Yeah. Weird. Cassidy (28:51) But that's okay, do we really need a remake? You can just watch the original. Kd (28:54) Yeah, just I just dub it if like and don't even do that honestly, but you could. Cassidy (28:58) Yeah. Yeah, I'm fine with dubs. I don't personally like dubs, but they are more accessible, so that's fair. Amy Adams, though, she would have killed it, but... Kd (29:06) Yeah. Yeah. I. Yeah, she would have been good. I was I once again had to watch this movie twice. I've been doing that a lot. And the second time I watched it, I was also running around making dinner and doing my own voiceovers. I was reading in her voice. I was home alone. Reading in her voice. Cassidy (29:18) Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ performing your own dubs. Kd (29:35) Yeah, performing my own job. ⁓ I think I did a good job. ⁓ yeah, I could have. should have. Cassidy (29:38) Nice, I wish you would have recorded it and sent it to me. Yeah, I guess you're gonna have to watch it a third time. Kd (29:45) Okay. So a little backstory on how this ended up being made. Sergio G. Sanchez wrote the screenplay in 1996. It finally got to Bayona in 2004. And then Bayona and Guillermo del Toro are friends. So he went to del Toro and said, hey, help me produce this. But you double the budget and double the shooting schedule. And he did. Cassidy (29:50) Mm-hmm. Yeah, that'd be so much fun to have a friend and you could just be like, hey, I would like double the budget and double the time, please. And they're like, OK. And they do it. Kd (30:23) Yep. Sure. Sure. Fine. Yeah. Cassidy (30:27) Very fun. They also apparently- Killing off Benigna midway through was not in the original script. That was added in by ⁓ the director, Boyana. He said that basically they didn't really want there to be an obvious villain and they thought that that would kind of throw audiences off because at first, you know, this kid goes missing and they suspect her. And so he was like, no, let's just kill her off midway through because then it's even more of a mystery, you know? Kd (30:57) Well... Cassidy (30:59) No? Kd (30:59) She- just because she's dead doesn't mean she didn't do it. You just couldn't find answers as easily. Yeah. Cassidy (31:03) Very true. Yeah, I guess it just keeps the mystery going. And also I feel like when there is an obvious villain like that, a lot of the times audiences want that closure of like the face off. So I think just telling audiences straight away like that's not where this is going to go. Interesting. Kd (31:09) Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, it was frustrating for me because I was like, well, now what? Like, how is she going to prove it? Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (31:27) Yeah. Yeah. Is that what you you thought that she had taken in? Kd (31:37) No, not necessarily. just it was just frustrating that now we weren't going to find out for sure. Like we couldn't use her to get more information on what did happen. Yeah, I didn't know what happened. Cassidy (31:43) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Kd (31:49) I try not to draw conclusions because I'm usually wrong. Cassidy (31:52) yeah, that's fair. the reveal in this movie. I guess it's a twist, but more of a reveal than a twist. Kd (32:01) Yeah. Cassidy (32:03) I don't want to say she was responsible for his death, yeah, incidentally kind of she was. And when they were making the movie, they talked a lot about it because obviously it was, you know, after Sixth Sense came out where everybody was trying to do their version of that. And it just kind of ended up being really cheap, bad. Kd (32:07) Kinda. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Cassidy (32:30) twists that didn't make sense when you went back and rewatched it Kd (32:31) Yeah. Cassidy (32:34) So the writer Sanchez and Boyana like talked about that extensively where they were like, we want this to just kind of be another layer to the plot, not necessarily play it as this cheap twist. I think it worked well. Kd (32:47) Yeah. Yeah, there wasn't a lot of cheap anything in this. No cheap scares. Plot was solid. Cassidy (32:53) No. Yeah. Which the few jumpscares, I think there's like two jumpscares-ish that happen. Huh? Are there? I feel like there's two like major ones. But they weren't even in the script either. They pushed Sanchez to put those in as well. Because he was like, I don't really like those types of scares. And so he was like, as long as they're done well, I'm fine with it. But yeah. Kd (33:00) that there's more than that yeah Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of scares. Cassidy (33:22) Mm-hmm. Kd (33:24) Geraldine Chaplin who plays Aurora. J.A. Bayona was just like awestruck getting her to be a part of his film. So they broke the ice on her first day by Bayona head hid under a bed and grabbed her leg when she knelt down in the dark. And then Chaplin scream is actually one that's in the movie. It made it into the film. Cassidy (33:34) Yeah. You Such a wild way to break the ice. Yeah. Apparently he did that. Yeah. That you like respect as an actor. like, you know, you know how I'm gonna say hi. Kd (33:54) Yeah, right. For someone that you're like excited about. Yeah. I'm gonna hide under this bed. Care to share with you? Cassidy (34:07) Yeah, apparently he did that a lot though. He would do little things to kind of surprise the actors, like run in the background or hide to startle them to kind of get honest reactions. So he sounds like a little mischief maker. ⁓ Kd (34:21) Yeah. Little bit about the set. So the cave that Simone disappears in is actually they use three separate caves because the caves were so cramped they couldn't get the lighting in. So they had to use three separate caves. And then the orphanage itself was an old colonial house that didn't have a lot of opportunity for the shots that Bayona was going for. Cassidy (34:24) Mm-hmm. Mm. Mmm. Yeah. Kd (34:53) So a lot of the house had to be recreated on a soundstage and over 80 % of the film was actually shot in the studio. Cassidy (35:00) That makes sense. Most of it takes place indoors. Kd (35:01) Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cassidy (35:06) One of my favorite fun facts is that the writer Sanchez, he was talking to the little girl who plays the blind orphan that she had pretty eyes. And she said, oh, you like them? I picked them out myself. And he didn't know that she was actually blind and she was diagnosed at a very, very young age. So she knew she was going to go blind. She wasn't born blind. Kd (35:17) Thank Cassidy (35:34) And so one of the things that her parents let her do was pick out what eyes she wanted once that was going to happen. So she quite literally picked out her eyes herself. Yeah, I think that's kind of funny and cute. Kd (35:44) Wow, I love that. Yeah, it's adorable. Well, any other fun facts? Cassidy (35:53) Only one. Kd (35:55) Okay, hit me. Cassidy (35:56) Just when writing, think Sanchez was very into the idea of having it open for interpretation. So he didn't want it, he wanted it to be a very grounded story. So a lot of people watch this and think it's a ghost story. A lot of people watch this and think it was all in her head. And that's on purpose. That's what he wanted. He wanted there to kind of be two options that people could decide for themselves if it was really happening or not. Yeah. Which I think is funny because I watched this movie for the first time probably, I would say roughly 10 years ago. And I have not seen it since. So I remember probably about five years after watching it, someone was asking me for recommendations and I was like, oh, you should watch The Orphanage because they wanted something that was like, you think it's supernatural but then it's not. And I was like, yeah, the orphanage. Because in my mind, I think I had just decided that it was all in her mind. And so in my brain, it was so clearly not paranormal that when I rewatched it now today, I was like, this could definitely be paranormal. Why did I decide so definitively back in the day? Probably because I don't believe in that stuff. But it is definitely more open for interpretation. Kd (37:11) Yeah. Cassidy (37:20) I can't remember who I recommended that to, but to that person I apologize because it could definitely be paranormal if you choose to take it that way. Kd (37:28) Wait, so what's the other option, paranormal or? Cassidy (37:31) Basically that she was just losing her mind in grief and right, yes. That she was kind of imagining these things and... Kd (37:34) psychological. Cassidy (37:40) led to the discoveries on her own. Yeah. Kd (37:45) Just because things are all in your head doesn't mean they're not paranormal. Yeah, I think when the window fell and the paranormal investigators were there, that was really what tipped me off that it was a paranormal movie. But that's just me. Cassidy (37:58) Yeah, rewatching it, it did feel more like a normal movie. I don't know why I was so dead set on that. Yeah, although I think you could still interpret it as not. Because like her husband doesn't believe them. He's just kind of like, girl, we got to get out of this place, you know? Which in real life, that would probably be me, so. Kd (38:02) Yeah. crazy recommendation. That's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (38:27) I don't know. Kd (38:28) Just because you don't believe in the paranormal doesn't mean that it's not paranormal. Cassidy (38:32) Just because you believe in paranormal doesn't mean it is paranormal. Kd (38:35) There you go. Cassidy (38:36) Yeah, what can I say? I'm just no fun. Yeah. Kd (38:41) Yeah, I guess not. Cassidy (38:44) Did you have any other fun facts? Was that it? Kd (38:46) No, that's it. I'm ready to rate it. Cassidy (38:49) Alright, let's do it! Kd (38:50) Okay, how scary did you think it was? Cassidy (38:53) I gave it a 1.5 out of 5 only because the window jump scare did get me on rewatch. So I'll give it that. And then I do remember at least the first time watching it. Now I know what happened, but the first time I watched it, I feel like there were a lot of moments of tension and it is kind of that slow burn dread feeling. So I gave it a little bump. What about you? Kd (39:01) Yeah. Yeah. I gave it a three. It got me pretty good. Yeah, it is a little spooky. The scene where she's playing one, two, three knock on the wall with the kids, that one, I was just waiting for the ball to drop on that one and it was so long. Like not not too long, but it was like such a long scene. And the scene where Aurora is on camera and her face sort of distorts in like the Cassidy (39:18) Yeah. It's a little spooky. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Kd (39:43) the like infrared light. And then like the children are in the background screaming through like a spirit box. Spirit box really freaks me out. The sound of spirit box makes freaks me the fuck out. I don't know what it is, but I don't like that at all. So yeah. Cassidy (39:45) Yeah. Okay, yeah Okay. How sexy did you think it was? Kd (40:03) Not at all. I give it a .5 out of 5. This is a dusty crusty movie. Cassidy (40:09) Jesus. Kd (40:11) Yeah, not sexy, not fun, not sexy. Cassidy (40:14) Yeah. Kd (40:15) Would you give it? Cassidy (40:16) I also gave it a .5. I agree, I wasn't expecting to hear the word crusty, but sure, yeah, is dusty for sure. And it's just, it's, this movie is fucking sad. It's not, yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't have a lot of sexy vibes. Kd (40:28) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. How fucked up did you think it was? Cassidy (40:36) Yeah. I give it a 1.5. There's a lot of children that don't make it. In fact, almost all of the children don't make it. And in pretty terrible ways. Kd (40:40) Okay. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cassidy (40:53) And then also, little bonus bump for Benigna's death. Her jaw just gaping open. That was fun. Yeah, what about you? Kd (41:00) Yeah, the jaw. Yeah. Yeah, I gave it a 2.5 for the same reasons. Lots of children in peril, some good, unique gore. The scene with the children screaming and the spirit box thing didn't like that. Cassidy (41:08) Yeah. Yeah. How are you with the beach scene? I forgot about that. ⁓ hell yeah. Okay, good, good. Kd (41:21) I missed it. I missed it both fucking times. Yeah, all I saw was her limping and bleeding. Cassidy (41:28) Yeah, that happened and I immediately was like, oh, oh, cause I knew you'd already watched it. So I was like, fuck. But at this point, I feel like you're pretty good about checking for your trigger. So, oh, you didn't. Oh my gosh. Kd (41:33) Yeah. I didn't. It was just a coincidence both times that I missed it. I slept through it the first time and then the second time I was making dinner so I was looking away and I came back and she had blood all over her leg and I was like, good thing I didn't see that happen. Cassidy (41:50) Yeah, it does. There's no sound. It's just visual, but still. okay. Kd (41:54) good. Yeah. Well, that's the problem. I mean, well, it's both. But the sound is what I remember from me breaking my own. But doing that, that happened to me. The sound is what I remember. So then like having a visual associated with it makes it so much worse. That's like when you screamed at that thing. Now I have your scream associated with like any nightmare I have. Cassidy (42:06) Yeah. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I apologize for that. I thought I was just having a silly, goofy time at an escape room with my friends, you know? I didn't know my screaming was gonna upset you so. Kd (42:23) Thank Nope, ruined my whole night. Cassidy (42:35) Alright, overall, what did you think of The Orphanage? No. my gosh, you're so fine. Kd (42:38) This movie was... Thank you. Sorry, I didn't let you finish your... Yeah. This movie was not for me. I see the appeal. It was effective, emotional in a way that not a lot of horror movies are. Cassidy (42:48) okay. Yeah. Kd (42:57) acting good, design good. I thought just a little tidbit, the shot of her coming down the basement stairs, like into the black and it's like lit. I just thought that was very well composed. I liked that scene a lot anyway. And I was like, wow, this could be like a background of somebody's computer or something. Anyway, my heart tells me to give it a two. Cassidy (43:10) Yeah. Yeah? Mm-hmm. Kd (43:21) but I know it deserves better than that, so I bumped it up all the way to a three. Cassidy (43:21) my god. What? You just didn't like the story or you just said I didn't like it but then listed every good quality about it so. Kd (43:31) I just did, it wasn't for me. It just is not a movie that I'm going to seek out again. It doesn't have rewatchability for me. I mean, I know I watched it twice, but I half watched it the first time. I slept mostly. I just I would never seek this movie out again. I don't want to think about it ever again. Cassidy (43:40) Okay. Yeah. It's just vibes only. Oh, is it because it's sad or? Okay, no, it's not a fun film. Kd (43:57) Yeah, it's just like it was not fun. I'm glad I watched it. It was good. But like, personally, not, nope. Cassidy (44:04) But you didn't like it. Yeah. So personally you would give it a 2. Critically you would give it... Kd (44:15) more than a three probably, but I split the difference to a three. Yeah. Cassidy (44:18) Okay, and then average it out, two or three. Damn, okay. So you don't think it was snubbed? Kd (44:24) Yeah. Well, no, I do. do. think it should have gotten much more acclaim than it did. But again, I'm not watching it. Yeah. Yeah, it's a good movie. Yeah. If I have any other friends besides you that enjoy children in peril in a horror film, I'll perhaps recommend this one to them. Cassidy (44:33) Yeah, you know what, that's fair though. Being able to separate your personal enjoyment versus knowing it's a good film, but you didn't enjoy it. Valid. I don't enjoy children in peril. Kd (44:54) fans of Pan's Labyrinth, fans of the others, watch it. You'll love it. Cassidy (44:57) Yeah. Yeah. Kd (45:01) That's probably why I have never seen Pan's Labyrinth again because it's literally entirely a child in peril. But the soundtrack slaps, so... And I know a masterpiece when I see it. Cassidy (45:07) It is. Valid. Kd (45:13) Thank you. What did you give it? Cassidy (45:16) I give it a four out of five, which is what it deserves because it is a very good film. it's a great story. It's well acted. It's well shot. It deserved the awards that it got. It should have been nominated for best foreign film at the Oscars. I think it was snubbed. And personally, I do enjoy this. I mean, I don't like, it's not a fun movie. It's very sad. It's very heavy. Kd (45:18) Sure. Mm-hmm. Cassidy (45:45) But some of my favorite movies are really sad, maybe that says something about me. I don't know. I just remember, yeah, the first time I watched this and finding out that that's how he died. I couldn't stop thinking about it for weeks. Kd (46:02) Yeah, and that's exactly why I won't rate it higher because I will not stop thinking about it. Cassidy (46:08) Yeah, is truly a horrific way to find out your child died. Kd (46:15) Which leads us to our next question. Would you survive? Absolutely the fuck not. Cassidy (46:18) Mm-hmm. Okay, yeah. You're taking Laura's out? Yeah. Kd (46:23) I find out that happens. yeah, I'm toast. I don't even think I would have lasted as long as she did. Cassidy (46:30) okay. Kd (46:32) Like I didn't. Cassidy (46:33) the second it happens. Kd (46:35) No, no, no. I mean, like, I don't think I would have lasted until finding him. Cassidy (46:40) Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like the second your kid goes missing. But I think that's the problem though with people going missing is like not having that answer. Because she in her heart believes that he is still alive. Kd (46:41) That's. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Cassidy (46:56) That would be... I can't even fucking imagine. Kd (46:58) Yeah, I mean, either way, I'm toast. It's just not happening. Cassidy (47:00) Yeah. Kd (47:02) How about you? Cassidy (47:04) I don't know. I think this is one of the harder ones for me to put myself in the situation because I do not have a child. I don't plan on having a child. So I can't and will never understand truly what it means to be a parent. I think I would be more like the dad. I think I would assume, especially after six months, that he is dead. I don't think I would handle that well. But I don't think I would find him because I don't think I would stay in the house. Well, maybe I would though, because I don't believe in spirits though, so I'm not like seeking that out. So for saying the spirits are real and they helped her. Kd (47:24) Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Cassidy (47:47) I think either way I'm probably not finding out what happened. Kd (47:50) Mm-hmm. Cassidy (47:52) I'd probably check myself into a care facility. I don't think I would mentally handle that very well. Kd (47:59) Yeah. But you live. Cassidy (48:02) I think so. Not a great life. I'd probably not want to be living. Yeah. Kd (48:07) Yeah. Yeesh. Cassidy (48:11) Yeah, terrible situation. Kd (48:13) Mm-hmm. Cassidy (48:15) I'm so glad this is a movie and kids don't actually come missing. Yeah, that doesn't happen in real life. God. ⁓ It's because God carries us. Sorry. I'm just kidding. All right. Well, heavy movie. I'm sad that you didn't enjoy it, but I'm Kd (48:18) Yeah, or die. No, no. God. Did you think I would? Did you think that I would watch this movie and be like, hell yeah, let's do it again, brother. Cassidy (48:45) I didn't think you'd be having like a romp of a time, ⁓ but I thought you would. I guess you do appreciate it, but I thought you like it because you appreciated it, but I guess that's not how that worked out, so. You know what? You can't win them all. What are you gonna do? Kd (48:53) absolutely appreciate it. Yeah, no. Cassidy (49:05) Alright, do you want to predict next week's movie? Kd (49:08) I do, but I do know a little bit about this movie. Cassidy (49:11) okay. You actually, it was on our list, but you requested it be put on the calendar because you like, Barry Keoghan after, Keoghan? After salt burn. Keoghan. Kd (49:17) Yes. Keoghan Keoghan. Yeah, I like him in Sallaburn a lot. Cassidy (49:26) Yeah, so you were like, hey, more of that, please. And I put it on. Kd (49:29) Yes. Yeah. Thank you for that. I know that Barry plays a little freak that eats spaghetti with his hands. And he tries to, I don't know why. And the vibes are like, Beau is Afraid vibes. It's what's that called? Like Eraserhead? absurdist absurdist. Cassidy (49:37) As he does. Hmm surrealist absurdist, okay Kd (49:56) Which is probably why he's eating spaghetti with his hands and then he tries to infiltrate a family and become their son and Then when they don't let him become their son I don't actually know what happens after that but I'm assuming he I think that the family worships a golden deer and Because they don't let him be a part of the family. He breaks into their mansion and destroys their Cassidy (50:03) Mmm. Hope you day. Mm. Kd (50:26) False god. Dear. Cassidy (50:29) He kills the sacred deer. Yeah. Kd (50:30) He kills the sacred deer. Yeah, and I know that it's a love-hate movie. People either love it or they hate it. Cassidy (50:37) Mm. All right. Kd (50:40) Mm-hmm. That's what happens. Cassidy (50:41) ⁓ It's not a bad guess. You hit some points. Yeah. It is absurdist. Kd (50:44) Thank you. Thank you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I knew that. Cassidy (50:53) Barry Keoghan, little freak. Kd (50:55) Yep, implied. ⁓ Cassidy (50:58) Yeah, if he's in a movie, he's a little freak. Kd (51:00) He's a little freak. Does he eat spaghetti with his hands? Cassidy (51:03) Great. I don't remember that part, but like it sounds like it could happen in the movie. You saying that, I was like, does he do that? And then I was like, probably. That feels right. Kd (51:13) I think. I think there's like a poster or something of him just like eating spaghetti. I'm pretty sure and he's and there's no fork involved. Yeah. In a surrealist absurdist. Yeah, okay, good. Cassidy (51:24) No, why would there be? Yeah, it sounds right. I don't remember that specific part. That's not what stood out to me in this film, but sure, yeah, I would guess. Sure. Kd (51:35) okay. Okay. Okay. Good. Excellent. This is what is his name? Yorgos Lanthimos How do you say his name? Wow. Amazing. Cassidy (51:42) Yeah. Just like you did. Nailed it. First try. It is your ghost. Kd (51:52) Yeah, thank you. I liked poor, what's it called? Poor creatures? Poor things. I actually did like it and that's him. Oh, okay. You should, it's absurdist, but fun. And it's got a great cast. Emma Stone's growing on me. Cassidy (51:59) Poor things. I still haven't seen that. Yeah. Nice. Kd (52:18) Yeah, she's in that new movie, Begonia, which I think is also him. Cassidy (52:21) It is. It's on my list. I will definitely watch it at one point. Kd (52:26) yeah, Bagonia and also we got to see Bagonia when it comes out. I don't think it's horror so we can't do like a podcast of it necessarily but Cassidy (52:33) a pod. We'll discuss that in our free time. Kd (52:38) Yeah. Cassidy (52:39) Cool. Sounds fun. Kd (52:41) Yeah, great, great. Well, thanks for making me watch that. Cassidy (52:44) Alright. Sorry. Kd (52:48) Whatever. It had to be done. It had to be seen. I'm glad I watched it just the once. Cassidy (52:54) Yeah. Sorry. Kd (52:57) That's okay. Cassidy (52:59) Next foreign film. No kids in peril. Great. Okay. Kd (53:05) Just like any any film. Any, no, no film foreign or stateside. Cassidy (53:13) No more. Enough. Enough with the children. Kd (53:17) Though I will say... A foreign film, the last foreign film that we watched with Children in Peril was like one of my favorite movies ever. Cassidy (53:27) Eden Lake? Kd (53:28) No, was that foreign? is it? Cassidy (53:30) yeah, it was British. It's not foreign language, I guess. Kd (53:34) foreign language film? It might not have been the last one, What's it called? It's also in Espanol. Cassidy (53:45) When Evil Lurks. You thought that was our last foreign film? That was like two years ago. Kd (53:46) Yes. No, no, no, no. Our last foreign film with a child in peril specifically, but it may not have been the last one. Cassidy (53:55) Got it, okay. I thought you just meant our last foreign film. was like, no. Kd (54:02) Yeah, no, that has probably the most graphic example of a child in peril. And I love that movie, it fucking slaps. Cassidy (54:07) Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, so how am I to know, kd? How am I to know the limits? Kd (54:13) Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a there's a double standard, I guess. shoot. Cassidy (54:17) You just keep me on my toes. There's no predicting you. Alright, well, I'm sorry I made you sit through that, my bad. It's a great film, though. If anybody's listening, she does agree that it is technically a good movie, so you should watch it. And... Kd (54:26) Thank you! Yeah. Yeah. Cassidy (54:36) Let us know in the comments your favorite movie about kids in peril. please feel free to like and subscribe and we will see you next week for the killing of a sacred deer. Kd (54:40) Hahaha! And then August and then I'll say happy August and it'll actually be true. Yeah. Okay. See you then. Thanks. Bye. Cassidy (54:51) Exactly. Bye!