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https://x.com/TheMaskOfFear/status/1940556279728296297
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https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/neil-druckmann-exits-the-last-of-us-season-3-hbo-1236446316/
👻 Access:Horror Festival Returning This Year: https://www.accesshorror.com/
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Hello, happy Tuesday.
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Welcome back to the Killer Cuties podcast.
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Gotta get it all out of the way.
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Yeah, I like it.
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Should we do our names this time?
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Why not?
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I'm Cassidy.
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I'm kd.
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Yeah, we're the hosts.
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Yeah, but I'm apparently not qualified to be here according to TikTok.
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to be here.
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No, you, that's not fair.
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You can't be mad at people.
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You successfully rage baited people on TikTok.
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And so you can't be mad about it.
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kd made a TikTok.
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Yeah.
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Talking about popular horror movies that she hasn't seen yet, even though she hosts a podcast.
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And then nobody read our bio, which, which says that one of us has seen all of them and one of us hasn't.
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So yeah.
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It's pretty much the whole premise of the podcast is to get you to watch these horror movies, but it worked.
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Engagement, babe.
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Yeah, we're getting there.
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mean, I'm I've watched a lot like what like 140 now probably 150.
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If you count all the.
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me what are five horror movies people are gonna be mad that I haven't seen, I had to look.
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I had to look through and be like, okay, which are ones that people would actually...
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be upset about, you know?
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So.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, sorry to those people.
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I hope you us a chance.
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I'm learning.
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yeah, yeah, this is a learning experience.
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She's becoming a horror aficionado as we speak.
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Yeah, slowly.
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I'm even wearing a Halloween shirt.
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That's true, she loves Halloween.
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I do.
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All right, we have some horror news.
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Shall I kick us off?
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Okay.
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We got first images of Linda Cardinelli as Pamela Voorhees.
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They were posted on social media last week thanks to the Alone in the Dark podcast.
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Shout out to them.
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She's obviously on the set of Peacock and A24's upcoming show, Crystal Lake.
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And the behind the scenes photos showed her front and center and in costume.
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So very fun there.
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There were also some other shots, including exteriors of Crystal Lake, such as the cabin and some vintage cars and the lake itself.
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So yeah, the show started filming on June 20th in New Jersey.
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And the sneak peek has obviously gotten a lot of the very starved Friday the 13th fans excited about it.
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Yeah, I imagine.
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That's fun.
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lot of litigation issues, so people are happy that it's happening.
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Yeah, finally.
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We talked about the litigation issues a few episodes ago.
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Yeah, I feel like we've mentioned them multiple times because of the game and then reboots and all that kind of stuff.
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It just keeps coming.
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Yeah.
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In strange news...
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Specifically for Last of Us fans...
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Neil Druckmann, who co-created and directed the video games for PlayStation and co-created, produced, directed, and wrote the show...
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The first two seasons of the show...
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All with Craig Mazin, obviously...
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Is stepping away from season three of the show to focus on other properties.
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Yeah.
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He specifically highlighted Naughty Dog's next game, Intergalactic the Heretic Prophet, as his new focus.
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But if that's not weird enough, Halle Gross, who co-wrote part two of the game and was an executive producer and writer on the series, is also stepping away.
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Weird.
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She did not announce what project or projects that she was going to be focusing on.
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But they both leave Craig to sort of do it all himself, I guess.
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And I hate to say it, but season three is already going to be lacking what most people, I think it's safe to say, liked about season one and the first half of season two.
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So it feels very much like
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Let's step away while we're ahead, which is so unfair to the remaining story and characters.
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like.
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I don't know, what do I know?
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It's just it's just weird.
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It's a weird departure.
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they've already covered with the games cover, right?
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Not quite.
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okay, I haven't watched season two yet.
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but I know about some of the stuff that happens.
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But I know that the third one's gonna cover like a new main character.
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And I guess, I don't know.
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I don't know how I feel about that.
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Cause part of me is like, if you feel it's run its course, maybe that's when you leave.
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But then part of me is also like, if you can make it good though, stay.
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Yeah, that's I don't know.
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It's just weird.
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But to your point, the game is two stories interconnected and they just took the two stories and disconnected them and that's season two and season three.
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So I hope that does not like spoiling anything, but em yeah, it just.
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It feels very much like, OK, we told the stories that we wanted to tell now have fun with this second rate story.
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Well, I don't know, maybe it is just he had other opportunities and trusted them to do it.
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That is reasonable answer, but I don't like it.
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Could the answer be the reasonable one?
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No, never.
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It's got to be more nefarious than that.
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It has to be.
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Alright, my turn.
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The Access:Horror Film Festival is going to be returning this year.
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It's a hybrid festival and industry summit held to celebrate disability in horror and genre cinema.
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going to be taking place both online and in New York City and it's been named as one of the most accessible film festivals in the nation by Forbes.
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Very cool.
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It's going to kick off events on August 1st this year.
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from
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The films that are gonna be showing, the event is also gonna be hosting panels, discussions, and Q &As from various people from the horror and disability advocacy
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communities, which is really cool.
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The full festival schedule and tickets actually went live on their website yesterday, if you're listening to this upon release, Monday, July 7th.
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So you can get tickets now if you are interested.
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Shudder is also going to be putting the films on their website.
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So that's really cool too, if you have a Shudder subscription.
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which I'm sure a lot of people in the horror community do.
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It's kind of the go-to for that.
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But the festival was founded by acclaimed filmmaker, author, podcaster, and horror activist Ariel Boska.
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And Boska has said that access horror is a celebration of disability that flies in the face of the existential threats posed by RFK Jr., the attacks on Medicaid, and a rising
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tide of eugenics supporters.
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So I felt that that was very apt news.
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and an exciting festival, especially considering.
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what Bill just passed that I don't want to talk about because it's fucked up.
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Yeah.
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But very apt that they are trying to celebrate and advocate for people with disabilities.
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So it's a cool event and I had never heard of it until this year and I'm really excited that it's going to be on Shudder because I want to watch some of them.
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Yeah.
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You don't hear of a lot of festivals, one, supporting like a reasonable cause or any cause at all, and two, available to watch online or with a subscription.
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yeah, and I mean, that's their whole thing is making it accessible.
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So I think their tagline is so accessible, it's scary, which is fun.
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yeah.
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Okay, one more thing for me.
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I thought we would play a little, I mean, not a game, it's more of an activity.
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Yeah, me too.
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I'm gonna share my screen.
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Okay.
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There's a really big group of people.
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cult of people perhaps that collect and review animatronics from Spirit Halloween.
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And every year Spirit leases the lineup around this time leading up to their stores opening in mid August.
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This year's initial lineup of six new products just dropped and I thought maybe we'd...
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look at them together and rate them as we go.
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Yeah, I love that.
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Okay, first up we have a six foot nine inch at its tallest point, silent and deadly clown animation.
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Here we go.
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That is a six foot nine clown.
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It is.
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I feel like the animatronic itself is a little lackluster.
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Yeah, it doesn't feel like it needs to be an animatronic.
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For listeners, it's really just got its...
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it's doing the shushing thing and it's got a knife in its hand and it just kind of turns back and forth.
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It's not lunging, it's not anything scary, but it's a silent clown.
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And it's also not really...
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Like I feel like I could make this animatronic out of things in my home.
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It's not really a testament to the technology.
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Yeah, it's not as strong for showing.
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It's cute and it's fun, but you might as well just get a tall clown statue that costs less.
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You don't need the animatronics portion of this.
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Correct.
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I agree.
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What would you give it out of five?
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Like a two.
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Yeah, I was thinking one and a half.
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Yeah.
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I was gonna say if that.
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I mean, it's really not striking me.
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The, I mean, the face, the texture of the face is kind of interesting.
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The eyes are just not, I mean, they're fine.
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I give it a one and a half.
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Yeah, it just doesn't need to be an animatronic.
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I figured we get the clowns out of the way.
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There's there's one more clown.
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This is yeah.
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Yes, this is a $129 six foot tall, two faced Teddy animatronic.
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Okay, so nine inches less.
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He makes noise.
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We don't need to listen to the noise.
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The only thing animatronic about him for those that are just listening is that his head spins 180 degrees and it's a different face on both sides.
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So he's angry on one side and happy on the other.
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It's very the mayor guy from Nightmare Before Christmas.
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Yeah.
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this video is so short because there's hardly anything to show.
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yeah, again, I'm a little this this is a better animatronic than the first one, because that is a cool effect, right?
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I think having the head spin is fun.
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Sure.
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Other than that, underwhelming.
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I agree.
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So I think you were right, I think the first one is the 1.5 and this is the two.
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Fair, so fair.
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Yeah, I agree.
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OK.
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hat.
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If they had done more with the lower half, I would be into this.
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Yeah, like maybe like, you know, it just like ducks down or something.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, a couple squats.
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Yeah, it doesn't seem like they'd be that hard.
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I've never been an animatronic in my life, so I can't testify for how difficult it would be.
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Okay, next, this one price astronomically increases is a $250 six foot night owl animatronic.
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Okay, with price increase, expecting my expectations are now twofold, double.
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At least.
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Yeah, I better see some some crazy shit right now.
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Yeah, OK, let's see.
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oh, okay.
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Yeah, this one's just like, what is it a bird or a bat?
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It's a bird.
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That's not an owl.
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It looks like a bird.
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It says it's an owl.
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It does not look it.
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looks
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news for you.
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An owl is a bird.
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No, they're different.
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uh Okay, it is, but it looks more generic bird than owl.
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All it is, the wings are flapping.
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That's the animatronic aspect of it.
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Yeah, so what we're looking at is a sort of like gargoyle-y owl head on a sort of lackluster, tattered body with wings that flap, which makes no sense because he's
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standing.
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Yeah, he's not flying.
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Correct.
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I guess this one makes more sense to be moving because of the wings.
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I'm still kind of underwhelmed.
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Am I just not a fan of animatronics?
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that what's happening right now?
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This is a two for me again.
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the concept is good.
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I think the concept of owl...
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yeah.
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look like shit.
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That's not $250 of production design for those wings.
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It's literally like those sheer Halloween clothes just draped over a wire and then tattered at the end.
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And again, the design does not read owl.
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It reads like an owl and a crow had a baby.
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That's what it looks like to me.
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Yeah.
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And on November 1st, this is going to cost $45.
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Yeah, so get it November 1st if you really love it.
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Yeah, that's what I do.
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I get all my Halloween show on November 1st.
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Yeah.
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Okay, where would you give this one a two also?
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I'll give it a 2.5 because it's a bird and I like birds.
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I am a bird girl.
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also looks shorter than six foot.
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It's saying that six foot and the last clown we saw was six foot and this looks four foot.
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Well, you know what, the head, probably is four foot because it's six foot at its tallest point.
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Yeah, but those wings are not two feet over it.
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Maybe a foot.
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I don't know.
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Yeah, I'm just underwhelmed so far.
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it's a two.
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Okay, this is a three foot, six inch tall, electrified corpse animatronic.
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It's only $150, so significantly cheaper than our disenchanting owl friend.
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Yeah.
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What are we looking at here?
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It's a man, a half of a man being electrified in a suit, a worker's, like janitor's shirt.
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Yeah, it definitely looks like a work shirt.
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It's waist up and he's hanging upside down being electrocuted.
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I think with the sound, adds to it.
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I wish you could hear the sound because it does add, he's like screaming and being electrocuted in the sound.
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Okay, that's fair.
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I like the animatronic aspect of this one because it makes sense.
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He's wiggling and it looks like he's being electrocuted.
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Yeah, and there's there's multiple so the head is both shaking left and right and nodding up and down.
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It's like a two fold and the arms.
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So there's more than one.
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Component, yeah.
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I think my complaint with this one is that I wish the wiring that's wrapped around him, that's like electrocuting him, is all gray and so is his shirt.
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So there's not a lot of contrast there.
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It all kind of runs together.
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There is some like red around his waist and his arm where it looks like it's like fake blood.
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I wish that they had almost carried that further or else made the wiring black or something just so that there was more contrast there.
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Or like orange.
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yes, I do like the animatronic aspect of this, though I think that this is fun and this is a step up from what we've seen so far.
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I'm gonna give this a 3.5.
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Yeah, I like this one, I like this.
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I don't like the shirt and the wiring the same color though.
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Yeah, that's so fair.
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I was only going to give it a three.
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I think if you opened the door and this was staring at you, I'd be a little spooked.
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Okay, okay, Our first discourse.
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Yeah, best one so far.
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Which hasn't been hard, but.
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Okay, this one is from a property we know.
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I don't know.
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You know.
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It's Valak.
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Is that how you say her name?
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Valak.
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It's an almost six foot tall Valak animatronic from The Nun.
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It is, I think, the most expensive.
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Let me check this one.
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It is the most expensive by about $75.
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It's a $300 animatronic.
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And here you go.
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Here she is.
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Okay, now we're getting somewhere.
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All right, yeah, for our listeners, it is Valak the Nun from the Conjuring universe.
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And she lunges forward.
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She's in a praying position and then lunges forward at you.
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That's the animatronic aspect of it.
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And then she goes back into her praying position.
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Yeah, she, her head goes up, her arms go out, and she thrusts forward.
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Very spooky.
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Yes.
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thrusts.
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Yeah, this one's fine.
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I think it's the fun movement of her thrusting that would get a kid scared.
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It looks...
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Fairly similar?
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Like, it's recognizable that that's supposed to be Valak.
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Does it look exactly like her?
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No.
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I, this one would scare me.
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I don't think animatronics are meant to be in full lighting like these have been.
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If this was in dark, in the dark, yeah.
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out at you on the path up to trick-or-treating house, you'd poop a little.
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Yeah, Yeah, I think this one's a four.
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I agree.
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I think it's a four too.
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Yeah.
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For $300 though, maybe it's a 3.5 because it's really expensive.
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But you have to, like, it has to be.
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Look at the whole contraption behind it that pushes it forward.
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Yeah, that's true.
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Yeah.
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and it's licensed, so they have to give money to the conjuring people.
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James Wan needs the money.
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Oh, James.
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OK, I saved what I think will be your your favorite for last.
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This is a four foot two mutant sewer rat.
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He's already so cute.
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He's two hundred twenty nine dollars, so middle of the road as far as affordability goes.
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And here he is.
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Oh, I like him.
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Yeah, I'm a big fan of this.
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It's just a rat man for anybody who's listening and he, his jaw moves and he kind of swivels back and forth with his head.
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I'm not gonna lie, the animatronic aspect of this, meh, this could just be a statue.
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It doesn't need to move.
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However, design, 10 out of 10.
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Yeah, he's fun.
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He's got whiskers.
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for the VHS fans out there, he kind of reminds me of Rattma from VHS 94, which is one of my favorite segments.
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I think that segment's amazing.
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Because I'm a sucker for a good old sewer rat.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I will say he's got so he's got a tail hands and a head that are made out of what looks like plastic, which is not ideal.
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And then the rest of his body is just cheesecloth dyed in several different suery colors.
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So like production value, not high, but he's just so cute.
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He's fun.
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the, for what we've seen, which is not high production value...
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On par.
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Yeah, I'm doing this on a spirit Halloween scale, not a put it in a movie scale.
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Yeah, fair.
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And also this one is the one that most closely ties to the theme this year at Spirit Halloween, which is Madison Scare Park.
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Like New York, like underground, you know.
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they love rats there.
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Yeah, they do.
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They have a lot of them.
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I'm gonna give this a four out of five.
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Because I think while it is my favorite design by far, the animatronic aspect is a little underwhelming.
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Okay.
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He's not moving much.
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Okay, I agree with you.
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I just thought that you would be giving it a little higher.
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No, I want to.
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I really want to.
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But I think you lose a point.
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the animatronic is not animatronicing, you have to lose a point.
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Yeah.
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And it's a shame.
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Yeah, too bad.
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It's too bad because if there's one thing I want to do, it's give rats five out of five, you know?
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oh
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Well, that was fun.
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Yeah, I liked that.
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That was great.
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Thank you for putting that together.
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Thank you for opening spiritholloween.com and sharing your screen.
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One day though, Spirit Halloween.
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Alright, should we talk about the autopsy of Jane Doe?
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Yeah, that's what we're here for 30 minutes in.
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relax.
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You can fast forward.
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If you haven't already.
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Yeah, we put chapters on our YouTube videos so they can just click there if they don't want to listen to us yapp about Spirit Halloween.
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All right, Autopsy of Jane Doe.
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I'm going to give us a little overview.
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While investigating the murder of a family, police are puzzled with the discovery of a body of a stranger buried in the basement that does not fit the crime scene.
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The coroner, Timmy, and his son Austin worked late to determine the cause of death.
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of the mysterious Jane Doe uncovering bizarre clues, secrets and mysteries along the way.
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That's from me.
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Thank you, me.
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It was directed by Andre Ouvredal.
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It was written by Ian Goldberg and Richard Naing.
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It stars Emile Hirsch, Brian Cox and Olwen Catherine Kelly, who went by Olwen Kelly in the credits for this.
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It had a 4 million estimated budget.
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That's not 100 % verified.
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And it made back a little over 6 million worldwide.
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It has a very respectable 3.2 out of five on Letterboxd, a 6.8 out of 10 on IMDb, and an 86 % certified fresh critics and a 72 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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People get their dicks wet for this movie.
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They do like it.
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It definitely, I don't think it had a wide release, right?
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Did it have a wide theatrical release?
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I don't think so either.
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made like $30 in the US and Canada, so I don't think so.
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Yeah, it couldn't have, right?
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And was released at what, Toronto Film Festival?
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Toronto Film Festival and then I think it released on IFC Midnight so I think it went straight to TV.
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I don't think it went in theaters.
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Which is crazy because it has a box office of six million.
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That's true.
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So maybe it did do a limited and then also on VOD.
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We did research, I promise.
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Yeah, there's just not a whole lot on that aspect of it.
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the budget was also estimated the four million dollar budget is We couldn't find the actual budget like some movies post but
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Right.
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But yeah, it definitely does have a cult following.
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Mm-hmm.
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I feel like I see this movie mentioned a lot when in horror groups where people are trying to find movies that maybe they haven't seen before.
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I see this gets suggested a lot.
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I'm glad we watched it.
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Check it off our list.
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And can I just say, bring back hour and 30 minute movies.
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We've said it before, but holy shit, an hour and half is a perfect length.
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was like, you can say that anytime you want.
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I've been screaming that from the rooftop since the day I was born.
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Hour 30 is the perfect length for a movie.
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I agree.
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If this wouldn't have been any longer, it would have been bad.
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that it ran its course.
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Yeah, I agree.
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It did what it could in the space that it had, and that was all that it needed to do.
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Yeah, well said.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Right off the top of my noggin.
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Mm-hmm.
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Got a lot of thoughts up here.
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Sometimes good ones.
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Yeah, it's rare, but it happens.
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always.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You said it, not me.
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Olwen is a Welsh name.
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My aunt's name is Olwen.
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Oh, I believe she's Irish.
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Is that?
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just a Celtic name.
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Okay, that could be it.
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I want to say that the director said that she had gone on to do a lot of stuff in Ireland.
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Or at least become like more well known in Ireland.
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So I think that's where she's from, but maybe she just...
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Nope, she was born in Ireland.
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Hell yeah, Irish for the win.
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Maybe it's just a Celtic name then, maybe I misspeak.
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But my Welsh aunt is named Olwen.
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One time I was at a party and a guy asked me what my name was and I told him and he proceeded to tell me that my last name was Scottish and I said, it's actually Irish and
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Scottish, both, it could be either.
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And he said, no, it's Scottish.
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And I said, I think I know.
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So he tried to mansplain my own name to me until he Googled it in front of me because he did not believe me and then said, oh yeah, it can be both.
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I said, I know, that's what I just said.
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People are dumb.
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Well...
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Men are dumb.
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Thank you.
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It was a wild thing to have someone have the audacity to tell you your own last name.
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Yikes.
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Yeah.
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I'll admit that this scene, and if you can guess it, I'll give you a little smooch.
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had my biggest reaction to a jumpscare.
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no.
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I audibly screamed scared both dogs, one of which was across the house.
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I genuinely can't think of a single jump scare in this movie now.
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And I know there's so many and I can't think of one.
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Yeah.
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Was it when he saw his dad at the end?
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And he fell down the stairs?
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Was it?
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Yes!
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Let's go!
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my god, give me a smooch!
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Um, yeah, yeah, that scared the shit out of me.
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Spooky.
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That was our first kiss.
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haha
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Anyway, yeah, that so yeah, biggest I, I was scared.
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I was scared by that.
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It scared me.
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Yeah, spooky film.
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Yeah.
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I also learned a new word researching this film.
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What word?
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Uh, Desultorily?
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I saw that as well and I thought, there's no need for that.
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Yeah, it, I mean, it did check.
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Okay, so they used it, it means disconnectedly or in a fitful or unmethodical way.
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And it was used to describe how Tommy and Austin listened to the radio.
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So it fits.
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It fit, but they could have just said like halfheartedly.
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Yeah, or disconnectedly, unmathetically.
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Any of the words in the definition.
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it was definitely a word that you don't see a lot.
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And so to have it be used in the IMDb Fun Facts was a wild thing to see, but yeah.
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Desultorily.
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Desultorily.
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It was one I hadn't heard, which is crazy.
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I feel like I know a lot of words.
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Yeah, it's a new one.
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Mm-hmm.
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Do want to speak more about the radio?
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The desultor-ty is just...
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Now I can't say it.
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The half-hearted listening?
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Yeah.
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You can.
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Oh, okay, sure.
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In the full fun fact, they don't just say that they're listening half-heartedly to the radio.
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They talk about what the radio is actually talking about because they're listening to the weather.
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And throughout most of the movie, they're talking about the storm that's happening and, you don't want to be out there right now.
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It's rough.
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It's crazy.
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We've never seen anything like it.
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And throughout the movie, you know, the lights are going off.
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There's a tree that falls in front of the exit, all this stuff that coincides with the storm.
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But at the very end...
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the forecaster is saying, oh, another nice one out there.
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It's our fourth straight day of sunshine.
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So kind of just adds to the fact that Jane Doe is messing with their minds a bit throughout the movie.
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Yeah.
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Wait, I didn't understand why her eyes went back to glassy at the end.
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Cause she like sucked his soul.
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because he stabbed him before the ritual was completed.
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Yes, so Austin stabs his dad.
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His dad is trying to complete the ritual to basically free her of this curse that she's in.
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And so he has to go through all of the pain that she's gone through, which is why his limbs are snapping, sorry about that.
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Yeah, so he's going to cut out his tongue, which is the last step that's needed for him to complete it.
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And Austin, his son, stabs him before he can finish it.
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So it's not completed.
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That's why Austin then is killed by her and the cycle repeats.
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Yeah.
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then how did the sheriff know that she was a problem?
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When did he know that she was a problem?
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at the end when he's like, get her out of my town.
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Oh, I think it was more so just not to imply that he knew that she was doing this, but more just this is now two tragedies that she's been linked with, so he probably just
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doesn't want it there.
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That's what I gathered from that was more of him just being like, bro, we're following this thing.
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Get it out of here.
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Sure, sure.
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So fair.
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I was watching a behind the scenes video and during the burning scene, they had a black mannequin on the autopsy table and they had rigged the autopsy table with gas, tubes of
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gas.
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And then from what I could tell, they were remotely turning the fire on and off.
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okay.
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of a fun little mechanical tidbit.
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Yeah, I know the director had said that that was technically one of the hardest things that they had to shoot because anytime you're dealing with fire, even if it's small, if
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it's an actual fire, that presents a lot of hazards, obviously.
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So when you're around all these famous actors and just human beings that are working on the set, he said you had to be really careful.
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So it was really time consuming for them.
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to set up those shots and get it all correct logistically and safely.
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And also they had Olwen Kelly there who is a live human being playing a corpse for the entire 90 some minute runtime.
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And so he said she was just incredible because she was able to do really shallow breathing and be really still.
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And he said, yeah, back in the seventies you could probably get away with it.
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if there's some breathing happening in the background, but you can't with today's audiences.
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That's gonna be on the Goofs pages and they're gonna notice if the corpse is breathing in the background.
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So he said that they really painstakingly went over all of the shots with her in it to make sure that you couldn't see any of
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Yeah, I guess she had trained in was it yoga.
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And that sort of helped her control her breathing really well.
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Yeah, yeah, but they specifically didn't want to do prosthetics eh and chose to hire.
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She was the first person to audition.
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There were several people that auditioned after her, but he just knew the director just knew that she was going to be who was playing Jane Doe.
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Yeah, eight hours a day for five weeks lying naked on an autopsy table, she said.
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That's a lot.
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I she used to be a model too.
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She said that that helped because she had done nude modeling in the past.
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So having that experience of being in a room full of fully clothed people and being the only naked one was something that wasn't entirely foreign for her.
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But Uverdell said that she had the most difficult role in the film and that he credited her with making everyone else feel comfortable because she was so comfortable with it.
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So testament to her.
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for being able to do that when she's in the most uncomfortable position.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Martin Sheen was originally cast as Tommy, but he had to drop out due to scheduling conflicts.
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And then obviously Brian Cox replaced him.
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Yeah, I could see him in this role.
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That checks out.
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he doesn't seem quite old enough, I don't think.
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especially ten years ago.
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Yeah, I guess I don't know how old he is.
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Let me see.
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How old is he?
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Oh, he's older than Brian Cox.
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Yeah, he would have been in his 70s at the time of filming.
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Yeah.
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Have ever seen Grace and Frankie?
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Oh, okay.
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It's very, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's got like, two women who are very known for their activism.
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And it's comedy, girl power.
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That's true, it does sound like something I would like.
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Yeah, it's very good.
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It's fun.
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It's about two old women who get together to make a sex toy company.
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Yeah, Martin Sheen's in it.
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Okay, I was wondering how we got there, but we did it.
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We connected it.
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Love that.
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Yeah.
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Martin Sheen was not in this, though.
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He had scheduling.
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Scheduling conflicts.
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Yes, of course.
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The director, he's Norwegian, this is his first English language film.
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Yeah, he did another horror comedy, Trollhunter, it's on our list, we'll get there eventually.
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But yeah, very different vibe than this one.
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But he was inspired to do a straight horror movie after attending a screening of The Conjuring.
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He immediately called his agent.
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said, me a good horror script.
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This is what they showed him.
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And he was lucky enough that they did eventually choose him to do the script after he said he wanted to.
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Nice.
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feel like that checks out.
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I talk about it more in my rating, but there is a common thread that I found between this movie and The Conjuring.
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The ghosts.
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Well, no, because the Contrary is a ghost story.
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This is a witch story.
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That's different.
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very true, very true, very true.
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No, I was going to say that I personally feel that the first half is stronger than the second half.
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So fair.
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the movies.
00:36:12
Okay.
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I was like, I don't want to like give too much away because I still like this movie.
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But I do think the first half where it's like this mystery and they're uncovering all these clues is really interesting.
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And then the second half is more just straight horror movie.
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Well, and in the second half, I feel like they leaned on exposition from the dad a lot without having first established him as like someone who would know any of this.
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You know what I mean?
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Like it just
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connected the dots very quickly in the end.
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Yeah.
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it just didn't make a whole lot of sense to me that he had they sort of like nurtured that character at the beginning a bit more, it would have made the witch thing less effective.
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And then because they didn't, it just didn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Yeah, yeah, but the reveal was fun.
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Yeah.
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That's a very fair point, though, that if he had shown knowledge of the occult and stuff like that, it would have made more sense that he knew this at the end.
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But then the reveal that she's a witch is kind of gone.
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Yeah.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, he just he just knew a bit too much to be.
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believable, I guess.
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Yeah.
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He connected to lot of dots very quickly at the end.
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I I I sat here, I pointed at her and I said, which which.
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It was a good reveal.
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It was fun.
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Yeah, who doesn't love a good witch?
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Yeah.
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I also learned speaking of things I learned all of the different does.
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I mean, obviously, you know, John Doe, Jane Doe, but there's also John Rowe and Jane Rowe.
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I guess if there's more than one at a time, I don't know how that works.
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And then Johnny Doe and Janey Doe for children.
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Or you can just use Doe non gender specific.
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Yeah, I didn't know about the rose or the kids names.
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only did because I used to consume a lot of true crime.
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Yeah, I went through an era.
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Am I proud of it?
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Not really, but I'm just a girl.
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Yeah.
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The director said that his favorite scene to film was the scene in the elevator when Tommy and Austin are sort of having their heart to heart about Tommy's wife, Austin's mother's
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suicide.
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The director said, only placed the camera and we watched a fantastic performance by Brian Cox and Emile Hirsch, which is always fun as a director.
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I can imagine that that would feel very validating that you have picked the correct actors.
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Yeah.
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And then he said the scene that he was most proud of as a director was the buildup of the reveal of the symbols beneath Jane Doe's skin.
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Which was
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Yeah, it was.
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I'm so I you alluded to this earlier.
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My one like really big trigger is in this movie and I had to watch it it was terrible and I threw up and it was terrible.
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But I mean, my eye, it is not your fault at all because I checked the it's a movie called about an autopsy.
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So like there's going to be body were but I went to the does the dog die and it was very misleading how many knows there were.
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So was like, maybe it's not like his body horror.
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Maybe they do it a little bit more.
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So I felt safe.
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was lured into a false sense of security.
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I should have, I usually control F bones and I just, I didn't, I don't know why I didn't.
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Yeah.
00:39:54
To be fair, I don't think it's a super body-heavy or body horror heavy movie, but that part is very much...
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If you have a bone cracking trigger, that is an extreme example of it.
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Yeah.
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It's just funny how like...
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That scene didn't stick with me because it's been so long since I've seen it and it's not a trigger for me.
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So it's so easy for my brain to just not even remember it.
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But I guess that's why it's a trigger for you and not for me.
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Yeah, I will remember it personally.
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Yeah, well, and you would, but for me, I was like, yeah, that was a fun movie about a witch.
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That's what I remembered from it.
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Because it's been probably over five years since I've seen this movie.
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Yeah.
00:40:41
Yeah, for me, that was a fun movie about a witch that I will listen to on mute next time I watch.
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that you threw up during.
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Yeah.
00:40:53
That's okay.
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Not your fault.
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What is this if not extreme exposure therapy?
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Honestly, it might be working.
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It's not.
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Maybe one day.
00:41:05
Yeah, we'll get there.
00:41:07
Kind of touching back though, you talked about the elevator scene and Øvredal said that when they were doing the set dressings, they added a lot of really homey touches to it and
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that's because they wanted to have that family dynamic aspect of it even though it is a morgue.
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So the wallpaper inside the elevator has this like floral pattern on it, which is obviously not something you really see, especially in a morgue elevator.
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But he wanted it there because he knew that that's where the conversation about the mom was going to take place.
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So he wanted it to feel almost like there was this feminine touch to it, as if she had been there and had some sort of say in how it looked and how it felt.
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Cute, I like that.
00:41:50
Yeah.
00:41:52
Ugh, RIP the mom.
00:41:54
true.
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And I'm glad he said Ray of Sunshine was a stupid nickname because it is.
00:42:00
It is.
00:42:02
I noticed...
00:42:04
It seems like a lot of people notice this.
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I don't think it's ever been confirmed that this is true.
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But when the, like, sheriff and everybody is going through all the damage and...
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em sort of looking through the morgue, the camera pans from the shower stall immediately to the hole that was axed through the door.
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So it's very, like, psycho The Shining.
00:42:31
Yeah, it feels very much like a subtle little callback to some of the greats in the horror world.
00:42:41
yeah, I just got back from a trip to see the Stanley.
00:42:45
Yeah, you did.
00:42:47
Without me.
00:42:49
I didn't go there for that.
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I didn't even know it was there until we were in the city that it was in.
00:42:54
I was like, is that the Shining Hotel?
00:42:58
Why don't you go hang out with your husband,
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Yeah, I mean, you know where I'd rather be.
00:43:05
No, stop.
00:43:06
I'm glad you got to go there though.
00:43:08
You got lots of pics and stuff.
00:43:10
Yeah, it was great.
00:43:11
Learned a lot.
00:43:13
My favorite fact that I learned in the book, The Shining, which by the way, the mini series is like a one to one of the book, I'm told.
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So yeah, so I will be
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watching it.
00:43:28
Yes, thank you.
00:43:29
That's not the word I was going to use.
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I was going to use consuming.
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I will be consuming the mini series also because Stephen King wrote the mini series.
00:43:39
Anyway, ah he didn't like the movie.
00:43:42
We talked about this in our episode on The Shining.
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Did we do an episode on The Shining?
00:43:47
Yeah, we did.
00:43:47
And we talked about it.
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a duo of The Shining
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And Dr.
00:43:51
Sleep.
00:43:51
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:43:52
I remember that now.
00:43:54
Anyway, in the book, The Shining, he writes about a herd of caribou at the hotel where there aren't caribou in Denver.
00:44:02
Those are reindeer.
00:44:03
They don't have caribou there.
00:44:04
They have elk.
00:44:06
So what the Stanley Hotel did was to give Stephen King his caribou and they put a statue of a caribou on the property and all the elk.
00:44:20
got fucking pissed and destroyed it.
00:44:23
that's incredible.
00:44:25
Yeah, during mating season they were like, fuck you, caribou.
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And then they built the maze.
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People are like, where the fuck's the maze?
00:44:34
Because people don't understand they didn't actually film at that hotel.
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doesn't look like the movie.
00:44:40
It doesn't look like the hotel in the film.
00:44:43
They are vastly different.
00:44:45
It was just inspired by it.
00:44:48
Yes.
00:44:49
Yeah, it's all inspirational.
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But anyway, people are pissed that they don't have the maze like in the movie.
00:44:54
So they made one and they planted a plant that elk eat.
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So it like never grew because the elk would just come and eat it.
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And then when they finally were like, OK, we got a two different, we got to use a different plant, they use a different plant and it grew.
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And now the elk don't come back there.
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They don't see the caribou anymore.
00:45:12
So the caribou is now safe.
00:45:14
okay.
00:45:16
That is great facts.
00:45:18
Love that.
00:45:21
Thank you for sharing.
00:45:22
You're welcome.
00:45:23
That's all I have about Autopsy of Jane Doe.
00:45:26
okay.
00:45:29
I have one more fun fact.
00:45:32
It's just kind of about the details in the movie that also hint towards her causing these hallucinations and stuff.
00:45:40
Okay.
00:45:40
so you think they're hallucinations not really not what happened in real life.
00:45:45
Well, she's clearly causing hallucinations.
00:45:48
You think it's hallucinations and not actually happening.
00:45:52
What do you mean?
00:45:54
Is that not up for debate?
00:45:56
I guess, but I feel like it pretty clearly implicates it as being hallucinations.
00:46:02
He's seeing a zombie come towards the elevator and then it's his girlfriend.
00:46:06
Okay.
00:46:06
think that that was up for debate, that it could have just been a monster and not her?
00:46:11
Maybe she animated.
00:46:12
Yeah, maybe she animated a monster.
00:46:16
I don't believe that, but okay.
00:46:19
not saying whether I do or don't, I'm just confirming your belief.
00:46:23
I believe what I feel the movie told me, which was that she was causing them to see things that were not there.
00:46:30
ah The time on the clock doesn't change as the movie goes on.
00:46:36
It stays the same.
00:46:38
So kind of a little hint there.
00:46:40
Austin's face doesn't have blood on it after he falls from the stairs.
00:46:44
When the police are investigating the morgue at the end, the lights aren't broken.
00:46:49
So.
00:46:50
Just a few of those little touches throughout the kind of hint that she's messing with them.
00:46:57
Yeah.
00:46:58
Okay, cute.
00:47:01
I didn't notice the clock thing or the lights or I didn't notice any of those.
00:47:07
Good to know though, my opinion on the hallucinations would have been solidified much quicker had I known those things or noticed those things.
00:47:16
Yeah.
00:47:18
Did you not think they were hallucinations?
00:47:21
okay.
00:47:21
had I noticed those things, I would have come to that conclusion much faster.
00:47:24
Like had I noticed?
00:47:27
Yeah, I had to think a little.
00:47:30
The weather didn't...
00:47:32
Didn't catch that either.
00:47:33
okay.
00:47:34
Never mind.
00:47:36
Yeah.
00:47:37
You are also.
00:47:39
Dissult-s-s-s-s- desultorily listening to the movie.
00:47:44
I don't know I can never remember how to say it.
00:47:52
Desultorily.
00:47:52
Yeah you were desultorily listening to the film.
00:47:58
I believe you.
00:48:00
Alright should we rate it?
00:48:03
Let's do it.
00:48:06
How scary did you think it was?
00:48:08
I gave it a 1.5 out of five.
00:48:12
Because I do think there's some tension at the beginning.
00:48:15
Some moments where you're like, oh, what's happening here, you know?
00:48:18
And then there's some good jump scares.
00:48:22
Yeah, what about you?
00:48:23
I give it a 2.5.
00:48:24
I split it down the middle because it did have my biggest reaction to a jump scare to date.
00:48:31
Yeah.
00:48:32
And then paranormal in general just kind of freaks me out.
00:48:34
I mean, I know it technically was a witch, but it was pretty paranormal.
00:48:39
So 2.5.
00:48:41
Very fair.
00:48:43
How sexy did you think it was?
00:48:46
Yeah, no.
00:48:49
No, I gave it a .5.
00:48:50
There was just way too much happening for this to be a sexy horror movie despite, you know...
00:48:57
dead woman laying on a table the whole time.
00:49:01
Despite that?
00:49:03
well, it means naked.
00:49:04
Naked was the key word.
00:49:05
Sorry.
00:49:06
clarify, because you didn't say naked, you said dead, so that was alarming.
00:49:11
Right, yeah, it was too late at that point, the damage was done.
00:49:14
Yeah.
00:49:16
just didn't do it for me.
00:49:17
Point five.
00:49:19
I give it a 2 out of 5.
00:49:21
I think witches are inherently sexy.
00:49:25
Okay.
00:49:26
And, you know, it's not really a good for her because she's still suffering the curse.
00:49:33
But witches!
00:49:35
Witches are great.
00:49:36
witches are like a baseline too, you know?
00:49:39
Sure.
00:49:41
Okay, I mean, I wasn't really getting which I know she was a witch.
00:49:47
I know.
00:49:49
But it wasn't giving what witches give, you know?
00:49:53
Sure, yeah, that's fair.
00:49:54
Thank you.
00:49:56
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:49:58
I gave it a one out of five.
00:50:00
I think it's, it's again, not my triggers.
00:50:03
It's not something that's, I don't really have triggers, but yeah.
00:50:09
So I gave it half a point because it does have a few moments of, you know, the autopsy and the crackings and the cat, but nothing that really was so crazy.
00:50:20
What about you?
00:50:21
Yeah, I think the level of body horror makes it a little fucked up, but I don't know that it's really anything that we haven't seen before.
00:50:30
So between like that and the cat, I only gave it a 1.5.
00:50:35
even though the scene made you throw up?
00:50:38
But that's just me though.
00:50:40
Well the whole rating is you.
00:50:42
I know, but it feels...
00:50:45
It feels wrong to rated to rate it based on me alone.
00:50:51
You know what I mean?
00:50:53
Okay, you can rate it however you'd like.
00:50:56
I feel like it makes sense for you to rate it based on your feelings, because that's...
00:51:03
what we're doing.
00:51:06
I guess.
00:51:07
I don't know.
00:51:08
It's still just a 1.5.
00:51:10
Okay.
00:51:12
and blocking those scenes out.
00:51:14
It's interesting though that you rate fucked up like that but not sexy.
00:51:18
It's not, it's not, those things aren't fucked up.
00:51:22
But you'll see a tentacle and give it a 5 out of 5, even though that's not everybody's idea of sexy.
00:51:29
That's a you thing.
00:51:30
be.
00:51:31
I'm not saying everybody's trigger should be what my trigger is.
00:51:35
Everybody's kink should be what mine is.
00:51:39
Yeah.
00:51:40
It's like the opposite of kink shaming.
00:51:42
Not, I was saying, yeah, as if, as in I understand your point, not that I agree, to be clear.
00:51:48
Yeah, okay.
00:51:50
Anyway, yeah, no, just, I don't just because my trigger is not something that is fucked up.
00:51:56
You know what I mean?
00:51:58
Like people break bones all the time.
00:52:00
I break bones all the time.
00:52:02
Yeah, that's fair.
00:52:04
So it's not it's like, you know, whatever.
00:52:07
Is it do am I going to throw up?
00:52:08
Absolutely.
00:52:10
That's, you know, valid.
00:52:12
I respect it.
00:52:13
I'm like salivating right now just thinking about it as much as I am.
00:52:16
Yeah, thank you.
00:52:18
That's OK.
00:52:19
right, overall, what did you think of the autopsy of Jane Doe?
00:52:23
Yeah, I mean, I think there were a couple like, plotty holes with like the dad and the exposition was a little much ah that sort of like devalued the film for me a bit.
00:52:35
And I hope I'm not saying I disagree with them, but I was genuinely surprised that the reviews were as good as they are, because the movie was just kind of like all over the
00:52:45
place.
00:52:46
It was like kind of like what you said, it was one movie at the beginning and then a totally different movie.
00:52:52
halfway through.
00:52:53
um But I did, I had fun watching it, especially the first half, so I gave it a 3.5.
00:53:02
That's correct.
00:53:03
oh
00:53:05
No, I fully agree.
00:53:07
I also gave it a 3.5.
00:53:08
I think the first half is really strong.
00:53:10
Again, like The Conjuring.
00:53:12
The first time I watched The Conjuring, the first half, I was like, oh yeah, we are here.
00:53:16
We are gonna fuck.
00:53:17
This is so good.
00:53:18
The little clap clap game I was in lost me.
00:53:22
They lost me so hard in the last half.
00:53:23
And this movie didn't lose me as hard, but it still lost me a little bit.
00:53:28
Cause it got very, kind of generic horror.
00:53:33
And I liked,
00:53:34
I think what made the first part so compelling was them finding these little clues and all these things that you're like, what is this?
00:53:42
Like what happened here?
00:53:44
And solving that mystery.
00:53:46
And I think, again, to your point of the dad kind of just having this epiphany at the end, if there was more lead up to that, more mystery, more them solving it, more them figuring
00:53:57
out what happened to her, I think it would have been a little bit better for me.
00:54:03
And they still could have left in some of the jump-scary stuff, but if they had just focused a little bit more on that, I know they wanted to touch on the family aspect and
00:54:10
get that speech about the mom in, and I get that.
00:54:13
But I was more interested in the mystery of it all.
00:54:16
That was kind of where they had me.
00:54:18
Yeah, I think I think same sort of like setting father son duo doing an autopsy like crime drama crime thriller.
00:54:31
So fun.
00:54:32
That would be so fun.
00:54:33
Not that this wasn't fun, but that that would be good to
00:54:36
Yeah.
00:54:37
I would watch that.
00:54:38
And I don't mind that this had, like, that it turns out to be a witch, but I just wish there had been more lead up to that.
00:54:45
Yeah.
00:54:46
Fair.
00:54:48
Yeah.
00:54:49
Wow.
00:54:50
Ask me would we survive?
00:54:53
Would you survive?
00:54:54
No.
00:54:56
Odds are really not in our favor, are they?
00:54:59
I don't think I'm smart enough.
00:55:01
I don't think I have the mental fortitude enough.
00:55:05
So I'm dead.
00:55:05
And I use my weak mental fortitude as an excuse for my own death very often.
00:55:10
But it's my truth.
00:55:11
Hey, and we all have to live our truth.
00:55:15
What about you?
00:55:16
I think it depends.
00:55:18
It depends on who I'm with, right?
00:55:22
So my mom is pretty smart.
00:55:25
And I think if, heavy if, the person I'm with figures out how to do this, how to do the ritual, how to complete it to end this cycle, and they are halfway through by the time I
00:55:40
get to them, I'm gonna let them finish.
00:55:43
because I'm not just gonna stab them and let their death be for nothing.
00:55:47
Yeah.
00:55:48
So I think in that case...
00:55:50
Do I live?
00:55:51
Do you live?
00:55:53
I don't know, it's a tricky one, this one's a hard one.
00:55:56
Because I don't know if I can depend it on someone else figuring this out, you know?
00:56:01
If it's up to me to figure it out, hell no.
00:56:05
I'm never gonna think which.
00:56:08
Yeah.
00:56:09
So I think it's only fair to say that I die as well.
00:56:12
But if we get to the point where that person has sacrificed themselves for me and all they have left is cutting out their tongue, why stop them then?
00:56:19
Emil Hirsch?
00:56:23
God, he looks like his name would be Austin.
00:56:26
I don't even know what that means.
00:56:28
I knew an Austin once.
00:56:30
Yeah, a little.
00:56:32
When I think of Austin, I think of Austin names from Cinderella's story.
00:56:38
Waiting for you is like waiting for rain in this drought.
00:56:43
Useless and disappointing.
00:56:47
Yeah, so I just think of Chad Michael Murray and how he couldn't figure out that a girl he went to school with for the past like 15 years was wearing something that only covered her
00:56:57
eyes.
00:56:59
So in my mind, Austens ain't shit.
00:57:01
Yeah.
00:57:03
That checks out.
00:57:04
Thank you.
00:57:06
Alright, you kind of already know the concept of what we're gonna talk about next week.
00:57:10
We're talking about the movie Teeth.
00:57:13
Kind of another cult classic.
00:57:14
This is just the month of cult classics, I guess.
00:57:17
But...
00:57:17
Yeah.
00:57:20
Is there anything you want to add to that movie, or are you good with just moving on?
00:57:25
No, I mean that the movie was a hot topic of conversation when I lived in the dorms at college.
00:57:34
Yeah, there was a movie night to watch teeth, all of us together to watch teeth, during which I was in my bed watching Free Willy.
00:57:43
They all watched it without you.
00:57:45
Without me, I didn't want to participate.
00:57:49
Yes.
00:57:49
Yes.
00:57:50
But I know that there are teeth in a vagina.
00:57:54
And I know a doctor is torn apart.
00:57:59
I think I'm pretty sure.
00:58:01
At the very least, bitten.
00:58:03
Yes.
00:58:04
Yeah.
00:58:06
And then the movie is centered around the woman who has grown the teeth.
00:58:11
or been given them and blessed with them.
00:58:13
Been blessed with the teeth.
00:58:15
Yeah.
00:58:17
Great.
00:58:18
Yeah, I can't wait for you to watch it.
00:58:20
Thank you.
00:58:20
Yeah, I'm I'm pumped.
00:58:23
The concept is original.
00:58:26
How could you hear that concept and not immediately be thrilled to be watching it?
00:58:30
You're a man.
00:58:32
Get over it.
00:58:32
Is what I say.
00:58:35
This movie feels like a for the girls movie.
00:58:38
Yes,
00:58:39
This and Jennifer's body, they kiss.
00:58:42
Although it's not as like, can't be funny.
00:58:47
It's more of a dark comedy.
00:58:50
I just want to get you in the, yeah, yeah, yeah, in the right mindset.
00:58:52
a woman has teeth in her vagina is not campy?
00:58:56
Well, it's a little campy, but it's not like as outwardly comedic as Jennifer's body is.
00:59:03
If that makes sense.
00:59:05
More of a dark comedy.
00:59:08
Yeah.
00:59:09
Cool, well that's fun.
00:59:11
Yeah.
00:59:13
And then before we go, I think you had a corrections corner that you wanted to do.
00:59:19
Yes, yes.
00:59:21
In last week's episode, I incorrectly called a TV show starring Alan Tudyk.
00:59:32
Mm-hmm.
00:59:33
illegal alien is in fact not called that.
00:59:38
It's called a resident alien, quite the opposite in fact.
00:59:42
Yeah.
00:59:44
So that was my bad.
00:59:46
In this political climate, kd, you can't do that.
00:59:50
I really can't.
00:59:51
I think I found out what was that this morning that I texted you about it or last night.
00:59:56
I think it was yesterday, yeah.
00:59:57
You messaged me.
00:59:59
whenever I messaged you about it, I was laying in bed, I fucking shot up.
01:00:05
I was like, my God, I said illegal.
01:00:09
Terrible, terrible, I can't believe I did that.
01:00:12
Yeah.
01:00:13
I apologize.
01:00:14
Correction.
01:00:14
Corrected.
01:00:16
I'm in the corner and I'm correcting.
01:00:18
She's corrected, she's apologized, and to be clear.
01:00:22
Fuck ice.
01:00:25
To be very clear where we stand on that.
01:00:28
Yeah, Resident Alien is the show.
01:00:32
Thank you, thank you, and I'm sorry.
01:00:35
Yeah.
01:00:37
I didn't notice.
01:00:39
I've never seen the show, but still I was like, yeah, well, no, hey, absolutely not.
01:00:47
I shan't be taking blame for that, but.
01:00:50
I've never seen the show, so I was just like, yeah, sure, I know that he's in an alien show.
01:00:54
Yeah.
01:00:57
Anyways, that's that.
01:00:59
Apologies.
01:01:01
Next week, teeth, please join us.
01:01:05
Let us know in the comments your favorite witch movie and your favorite movie about teeth in a vagina.
01:01:12
then, if there's more than just teeth, please let me know because I would like to see the others.
01:01:18
I mean it's about time.
01:01:19
It's been 20 years.
01:01:21
That's true.
01:01:22
Don't say that.
01:01:23
oh Anyways, I hope you have a good rest of your week.
01:01:27
Thank you so much for listening.
01:01:29
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01:01:31
We'll see you next week for Teeth.
01:01:33
Bye.