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Hello.
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Hi, hi.
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Happy Tuesday!
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Happy Tuesday.
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It is July.
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Crazy.
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Seriously, we're cooking.
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2025 is more - we're closer to 2050 than we are to 2000
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Hey, shut the fuck up.
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Yeah, I told Dylan I was like, well, we're closer to 2030 than we are 2020.
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And he's like, wait.
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And they told me that I was like, fuck.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I hope your millennia is going well.
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Yeah, sure.
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We're the Killer Cuties podcast.
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We should say that.
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Also, we're going to be talking about The Fourth Kind today.
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But first, no news.
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We don't have news today.
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Nothing was sparking joy.
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But I have a game.
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Yeah, so I'm going to give you Letterboxd reviews and you're going to try to guess what movie it is.
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Is it only horror movies?
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No, I decided a hundred some episodes in that we're going to start talking about other movies instead of horror movies.
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know.
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It's a letter.
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Letterboxd is relevant.
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OK, it's all horror movies.
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and it's only ones - we've covered them on the podcast.
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So I know you've seen them.
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Yes.
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Yeah, I wouldn't just throw in something crazy that you haven't seen.
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Excellent.
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I remember at least 10 of them that we've watched.
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Okay.
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Odds are good.
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eight are in your ten that you remember.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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I'm gonna read them out loud so that people who are listening can know too.
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All right, so first up by Kit Lazar, you gotta watch out for those homeschooled kids,
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God.
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reviews for each one and they get easier as they go, so...
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Okay, first inclination is Eden Lake.
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Okay.
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Next review by Lily.
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This and Ready or Not are girlfriends.
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yes.
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No guesses?
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No, I remember we talked about this in the episode.
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Fuck.
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It's not Clown in a Cornfield.
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Mm-mm.
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Okay, give me the last one.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I will never look at a blender the same again.
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From Erin.
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Yeah, I know you know it, you just can't think of the title.
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Yeah.
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Fuck, what's it called?
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You're Next.
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Hell yeah.
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my God, I got there.
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Yeah, you did it.
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That's amazing.
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You gotta watch out for the homeschooled kids.
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All right.
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Yay.
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Okay.
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I'm glad you like it.
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Okay.
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Next up from Meg.
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It took me 20 additional minutes to finish this because about halfway through my television turned itself off and I just thought they'd put the camera in their pocket or
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something.
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Oh my god.
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Blair Witch Project.
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That is correct.
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is Blair Witch Project.
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I'll give you the other ones just for fun.
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Henrique said, wipe your nose, bitch.
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And Hungcat said, no cell phone in sight.
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Literally just film students vibing in the woods.
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Blair Witch Project.
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That one was hard because it's so relevant.
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I was like, she's definitely going to get this.
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Yeah, you should have gone with wipe your nose bitch first.
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I think so.
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that scene is so iconic.
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I wouldn't remember it.
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That's true, and you haven't seen the scary movies, have you?
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Okay, so they parody that scene, so that even more made it relevant, where like in the parody it's just not like flowing.
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Yeah.
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Okay, next.
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From Ceres, me and the guy I pulled by being weird and off-putting.
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Wait, it's coming to me.
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Yeah, you got this, I believe.
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I'm.
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Thinking.
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I don't remember what it's called.
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With Timmy Chalamet?
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Bones and All, perhaps?
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Perhaps not, but that is a really good guess.
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Yeah, it also works for that movie.
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All right, next review by Sophie Holzinger, a leading man with no lines.
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No One Will Save You.
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Just kidding.
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That's a good guess for that one, but that doesn't fit with the first one.
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um Fuck, okay, give me the third one.
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Okay, Vincenzo says, slow motion castration, let's fucking go.
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What?
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I don't remember a castration.
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I feel like I would have.
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more of a hint.
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You see the shadow of the castration happening.
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oh.
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Lisa Frankenstein.
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Hell yeah.
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Love that.
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right.
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Next up by Karsten.
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This is a movie about sideburns.
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Wolf of Snow Hollow.
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Oh, okay, good guess, but no.
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sideburns to me.
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Very fair.
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Eric says, it's so scary and filmed so well, I want James Wan to fuck me with a plastic skeleton.
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Uh-huh.
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Insidious.
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Good guess, no.
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Yep, last clue by Neon.
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Couple goals, driving cross country to vanish demons.
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Yeah, Insidious, but the other one that is not what I mean.
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You know what I mean?
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Do you know what I?
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Insidious, but the other one is absolutely correct.
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Yes.
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It's on the tip of your tongue.
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Sinister.
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Fuck, what's it called?
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With what's his face with from family opera and the metalhead woman.
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Yeah.
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Conjuring.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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I was there.
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you were there.
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We did watch it.
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All right, next up.
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Mike Flanagan probably watches this while excitedly punching the air.
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That's from Lily, by the way.
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it's giving supernatural.
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Okay.
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Because...
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Flanagan.
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Of course.
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The Shining?
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Good guess, but no.
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Colin the Dude says, Swimamarink.
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What?
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Okay, so it's depression, but in the water.
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Yes, sure.
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Well, kind of.
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Evil Dead Rise.
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We didn't watch that on the podcast.
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We did watch it together, but no, sorry.
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Would you like the last clue?
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No.
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Okay, yeah, give me a last.
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Australian accent, when you see it, you'll shit bricks.
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I can't do an Australian accent, so I'm not gonna try.
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Australian, that's a big clue.
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Yeah, it's giving Talk to Me.
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No.
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Where does Swimamarink come in?
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I would say think slow moving, very slow burn.
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And swim has to do with what a central character was doing.
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swimming.
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Yes.
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No?
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Lake Mungo.
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Yeah, it makes sense after.
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Yeah.
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When you see it, you'll shit bricks in an Australian accent.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I get it.
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All right, next up.
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My ass was clenched the whole time.
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Whether that was my nerves or my bisexuality is anyone's guess.
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That's from Madison.
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dear.
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Jennifer's Body?
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Hmm, very good guess, but no.
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Damn it.
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Okay?
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Lauren says, everyone walking around barefoot like it's a fucking Quentin Tarantino fantasy.
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oh?
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don't know.
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Give me one more.
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Sorry.
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No, you're fine.
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These are these are not easy.
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We've done a whole - over 100 movies.
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All right, Issy says, why the fuck would you have another baby?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's a big clue.
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We talked about it at length during this episode.
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, A Quiet Place.
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It is A Quiet Place.
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Good job.
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Yep.
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My bisexuality?
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Yeah, I'm guessing just because, why did just, Emily Blunt, I was gonna call her Emma Blunt for some reason.
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Emily Blunt and John Krasinski, that makes sense to me.
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They're an attractive couple.
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thought the monsters were more attractive than...
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whatever.
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Okay, next!
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Moving on quickly from that comment.
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A series of unfortunate misunderstandings.
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That's from Hayley.
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yeah, yeah, I know it, I know it, I've got it, I've got it.
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Tucker and Dale vs Evil.
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Hell yeah.
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right, the other one's just for fun.
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Adam Bolt said the most powerful bromance in all of film.
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And Vicenzo said, I wish character actor Alan Tudyk a very pleasant evening.
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And that is Tucker and Dale vs Evil.
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Hell yeah.
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Have you seen illegal, is it called illegal alien?
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Illegal alien?
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I think it's what the show is called.
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Yeah.
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It's so cute.
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Yeah.
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It's very Alan Tudyk.
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He's the best.
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All right, last one.
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I believe in you.
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Molly says this was just like Among Us.
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Movie like Among Us, where people are going around doing tasks and people get killed.
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Ready or not?
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Good guess?
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Not quite.
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Next clue.
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Bear says, this is my family when the internet shuts off randomly.
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Are you sure it's not Ready or Not?
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I'm sure it's not ready or not.
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Bodies, Bodies, Bodies?
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No, but also a really good guess.
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All right, last one.
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I know you're going to get it this time.
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Karsten says, reminded me of my time on the farm and my piece of shit goat.
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May he rest in peace.
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The Witch, yes.
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good one, good one.
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I didn't even realize that I took reviews from a lot of the same people.
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That's funny.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Anyways, that was good.
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You did really good.
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I wasn't keeping track, but I feel like you got most of those, so.
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Yeah.
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Okay, good.
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I'm glad you liked it.
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Yeah, we definitely can.
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I had a really fun time putting it together.
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Yeah, reading through reviews is always a good time.
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Yeah, it's kind of hard though to find ones that are subtle enough, but also not impossible to get.
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But it was fun.
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Yeah.
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Cute.
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Well, thanks.
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along.
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Tell us how many you got right in the comments.
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Yeah, hopefully I didn't spoil them by guessing them right on the first one.
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Oh.
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They can get over it.
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it'll be fine.
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They'll live, I'm sure.
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Well, shall we get into it?
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Yes, please.
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All right, today we're going to be talking about the 2009 horror sci-fi movie, The Fourth Kind, starring Milla Jovovich as Dr.
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Abigail Tyler, a psychologist in Nome, Alaska.
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The film explores the disproportionate number of the population in and around Nome who have gone missing since the 60s and despite numerous FBI investigations, still remain a
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mystery.
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Dr.
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Tyler may be on the verge of blowing the unsolved cases wide open when during the course of treating her patients, she finds evidence of alien abductions.
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The movie was written and I can't emphasize enough that this movie was written
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and directed by Olatunde Osunsanmi had a $10 million budget and made back just shy of $50 million at the box office.
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It had a 5.9 out of 10 on IMDb, which is its highest rating across platforms by far, a 2.6 out of 5 on Letterboxd and 18 % critics and 41 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Yeah.
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That's The Fourth Kind.
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That is.
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We should give it credit though.
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It does have quite a robust cult following now.
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So maybe we're a part of that.
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Maybe we're not.
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Who's to say?
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Us.
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About 40 minutes from now.
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So.
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Reddit loves this movie.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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It has a huge cult following of people who love it.
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I can see why.
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Sort of.
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mean, yeah, yeah.
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Every movie deserves a cult following.
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Well...
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Sure.
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This one.
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OK, yeah, Terrifier.
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this one, fine, sure.
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I think at its bones, there's some good stuff in here.
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Maybe some of the execution faltered, but it's got some bones.
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Yeah.
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way to do a movie, I will say.
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It's a choice that they made and that some people really love.
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Yeah, I definitely found myself gravitating towards the real quote, quote, real footage.
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So I wonder if it might have been more effective if they had just leaned into that and made it pound footage instead of a weird pseudo documentary with a weird intro thing,
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fourth wall breaking thing.
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Just
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Yeah, I definitely, not to give too much away, but I talk about this in my overall rating, where I feel like if they had stuck to one thing, it would have been almost a good movie.
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No, that's not fair.
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Almost a great movie.
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I think if they had just either done a solid film with Milla Jovovich starring in it and done the story, sure.
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If they had just done a found footage with kind of unknown actors, sure.
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It was the combination of the two that I think is where
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They lost some people.
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Yeah, neither of the two were strong enough to justify needing them both.
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fair.
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Like, you know what mean?
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Like, they needed to put more time and effort into one or the other.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, Also, this is
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random, but the actress who plays the quote unquote real Dr.
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Tyler, um Charlotte Milchard, in her appearance and in her voice, she reminds me so much of Judy Greer.
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Oh, okay, I can see it.
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Yeah, if that was actual real footage and I was casting the reenactment, I would cast Judy Greer.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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But to to just to be contrary.
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Mm-hmm.
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She was like very ill in the quote real footage so she wasn't supposed to look really like.
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Healthy and yeah.
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be that she, you the life was sucked out of her, but.
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Yeah, she reminded me, did you ever watch that documentary, the Cult of Mother God, like love wins or whatever cult of Mother God.
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no, that was on Max, right?
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I think I have it on my watch list on there, but I haven't watched it.
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Yeah, it's good.
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But she takes like silver as a like supplement and turns the exact color of the quote real Dr.
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Tyler.
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Like that like weird like yellow sort of like ochre color.
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That's what color Mother God she's like, it's like, like weird.
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Yeah, she's like, it's like blue.
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but also orange, it's very strange, it's hard to describe, but yes.
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Yeah, well, I'll watch it and get back to you.
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Thank you.
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Also a fun fact about her is that in the end credits she appears not as Dr.
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Abigail Tyler, but as Nome resident.
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So I think just another way that they were really trying to push that this was a real story.
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Yeah, they leaned into that a lot.
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Yeah, and it got them into trouble
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It did.
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Yeah, it did.
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In 2009, after the film came out, the Alaskan Press Club sued Universal for false news reports and for using real missing persons cases to promote the movie.
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So leading up to the release, Universal created this website and it mentioned real people in Nome and had both real and fake articles attributed to real publications.
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So they ripped off stuff from Anchorage Chronicle, The Nome Nugget, Fairbanks Daily News Miner.
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They used
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real reporters as names.
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It was super misleading and disrespectful and sort of like harmed the integrity of journalism in Nome.
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A lot of people were
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like, I don't think you can do that, right?
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You can't just...
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use real things without permission...
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in movies?
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but well, but.
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I mean, maybe in 2009, were like rules were not, I don't know what happened because after all of that, they ended up just settling out of court.
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Universal took down the website and paid a total of $22.
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Like it was nothing.
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There was no, that's pennies.
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No consequences at all.
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So it's weird that, you know, I don't know, it's just weird.
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Yeah, I guess we don't know, right?
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We'll never know what the terms of the settlement were and what they were looking for.
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Maybe they only sought out litigation because they wanted it taken down.
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And that was the bulk of what they wanted.
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So without knowing...
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publication side of it.
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There's no way for us to know if it was, if they could have gotten more or not, and they just didn't want to take it that far.
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, interesting.
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There was actually a lot of controversy surrounding the film.
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Maybe we can get into that a little bit more.
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Mm-hmm.
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The biggest thing for me is that the real Nome is 51 % native Alaskans and there were no indigenous characters in the film.
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There was some...
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like diversity in the film at the very least, but the representation of Nome was so far in both like people diversity and ecological diversity.
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It was just very not Nome, Alaska.
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And so the residents of Nome between that like misleading representation and Universal trying to profit off of real tragedies that happened in Nome.
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People in Alaska hate this movie, which is so fair.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, to be clear, there have been disappearances in Nome.
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The FBI has investigated it.
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And they found that it's basically a mix between the harsh conditions and alcohol usage.
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So people get drunk and then you're out in the harsh conditions, something might happen to you.
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So that's been the basis of what they've found while investigating it.
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But obviously a lot of conspiracy theories kind of surround that.
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And so I think
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residents of the town who have obviously firsthand dealt with those tragedies.
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where like maybe a huge production company shouldn't push a conspiracy.
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Which is fair.
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I can understand being upset at that.
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Yeah, the vice president of COWRAC, which is an organization representing tribal peoples in Alaska, described the movie as insensitive to family members of people who have gone
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missing in Nome over the years.
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And Universal just like refuses to comment on any of that, which is sort of telling.
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Yeah, it definitely tells the line of, should you make movies about real things when people are still impacted by that?
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I don't know.
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I mean, I think it's fine to take inspiration from things, but...
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But yeah.
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I think if they had just...
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done the movie, set in Nome, Alaska, disappearances, and that was just a thing?
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Or even just an Alaskan town without specifically naming Nome?
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Sure.
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I think where they really ran into trouble was making those fake news articles, really pushing that this was a real story and real archive footage, but that's not true.
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There's no record of a Dr.
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Abigail Tyler at all.
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It's not a real story.
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So I think if they hadn't pushed that aspect of it so much, it would have been fine.
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But they really hammered in.
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Which I don't think work.
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I think you need to do more of a Blair Witch or Paranormal Activity style if you're gonna try to do that.
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If you wanna convince people it's real, you have to use unknowns, you have to do found footage, and you have to market it as if, oh, some...
00:22:06
this happened, you know, but not really push it because a lot of that was just talk of the town because these were unknown people.
00:22:14
can't be like, this is Milla Jovovich in a dramatization of real events and expect people to think that that's real.
00:22:22
Well, actually, no, that's not true.
00:22:23
Yeah, people did think it's real, which is crazy.
00:22:26
Yeah, it's like to this day people are still confused by whether or not this is real or not even without the weird website the end credits don't include the like The events and
00:22:37
persons depicted in this film are fictitious thing eh
00:22:41
Yeah.
00:22:43
It doesn't even say based on real events.
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Because it's not.
00:22:46
It's a movie.
00:22:47
They don't say that because it's not.
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And yes, people still it's real.
00:22:54
I don't understand it.
00:22:56
I don't either, but you know, what do they say at the end?
00:23:00
You have to choose what you believe or something.
00:23:03
Yeah.
00:23:04
I think this really hit home.
00:23:07
Psychologist Chris French wrote for The Guardian, "The reason he found this film so 'disturbing' was because experience shows that no matter how obvious a hoax may be to
00:23:09
those capable of critical thinking, there will always be many who will accept at face value the film's claim to be based on true events." So true.
00:23:28
it's people forget that movies lie to you.
00:23:32
That's the whole point is that it's fake.
00:23:36
That actually happened recently too.
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I think last year, Strange Darling came out and it opens with based on a true story.
00:23:42
It's not.
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That's just part of the movie.
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It's fake.
00:23:45
Nothing of it is real.
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It's an entirely made up story that they use based on a true story because it's a movie and you can.
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but people afterwards were like, wait, what's the real story?
00:23:59
There is none.
00:24:00
It's fake.
00:24:01
It's a movie.
00:24:02
It's make believe.
00:24:03
Strange dar- no.
00:24:05
I was thinking don't worry darling.
00:24:07
Oh, yeah, no, not the one with Harry Styles.
00:24:10
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.
00:24:12
Is it the one with Harry Styles?
00:24:14
Unfortunately not.
00:24:16
Yeah.
00:24:17
I want to talk about the types of encounters.
00:24:23
Okay, so the fourth kind is a reference to scientist J.
00:24:27
Allen Hynek's famous categories involving sightings of UFOs.
00:24:32
It was created by him, but then popularized, obviously, by Hollywood.
00:24:37
Close encounters of a third kind is a very good example of this kind of rising into the stratosphere of being well-known or like a family household name.
00:24:45
So in his original scale, he had six classifications that depended on proximity.
00:24:51
One was nocturnal lights, so seeing lights in the sky.
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The next was daylight disks, so in the daytime, but seeing the actual UFO.
00:24:59
Next was radar visuals, which was supposed to be like the next step in confirming that it was real, but in reality, which I don't know if they knew at the time, but we now know
00:25:08
that atmospheric things can interfere with radar, so not really.
00:25:13
It doesn't add to the credibility really.
00:25:15
We know that now.
00:25:17
And then he only had three types of close encounters.
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So first, second and third.
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First was visual sightings less than 500 feet away.
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The second was a physical effect that happened if you saw the UFO.
00:25:34
So animals reacting or electronics going crazy, uh heat or discomfort, discomfort to the witness.
00:25:42
that type of stuff.
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Third kind.
00:25:45
was UFO encounters, which an animated entity is present.
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So humanoids, robots, or humans that seemingly occupied or piloted the UFO.
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There's also like subtypes of it, by the way.
00:25:59
It gets crazy.
00:26:00
People really went in depth on this for something that like we can't even confirm is actually real.
00:26:07
But it's really interesting if you get into it.
00:26:11
Anyways, after Hynek passed away in 1986,
00:26:15
Jacques Vallee kind of added onto the scale.
00:26:18
And that's where we get the fourth, fifth, and sixth kinds, which obviously this movie is named after the fourth kind.
00:26:26
The fourth kind is abductions.
00:26:28
Yes.
00:26:29
When the UFO actually takes someone.
00:26:31
Fifth kind is when they get some kind of physical effect from the close encounter.
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So injury or healing even.
00:26:40
People have also
00:26:42
kind of changed the meaning of fifth encounter in pop culture.
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So now a lot of people, like the popularized version of a fifth encounter is a human trying to contact an alien.
00:26:53
So yeah, there's a little bit of doubt there.
00:26:55
Anyways, and then the sixth kind is butt stuff.
00:26:58
So yeah, that's a sexual encounter.
00:27:02
That's crazy that that's its own category and not like a sub bullet under five.
00:27:06
Or four even.
00:27:08
six is sex.
00:27:11
I guarantee if there isn't one, there will be soon a pornographic film called The Sixth Kind.
00:27:24
There has to be.
00:27:25
Yeah.
00:27:26
I won't look right now.
00:27:29
You report back.
00:27:30
Next week, you let us know if there's any six kind porn.
00:27:37
I mean there is, but is it called that?
00:27:40
That's yeah.
00:27:41
Yeah, and if not, opportunity.
00:27:44
Yeah.
00:27:45
Yep.
00:27:46
That's crazy.
00:27:48
Yeah, I was really, yeah, really fascinated by like, it's a real like, not scientific necessarily, but it's a scale that people, scientists, yeah, came up with.
00:28:05
decided on to describe these happenings, claims.
00:28:12
Have you ever had an encounter?
00:28:14
No?
00:28:16
That's okay.
00:28:19
you?
00:28:21
You live in Arizona.
00:28:24
So.
00:28:25
We're really big on our lights.
00:28:27
Yeah, you seen those lights yet or what?
00:28:29
I don't I've never seen the lights.
00:28:31
I did see something that I couldn't quite explain.
00:28:34
I think it's I'm pretty sure it's a bird, but there's always that like doubt, you know, so this would be somewhere between one and two because it was at night, but there wasn't
00:28:42
lights.
00:28:44
Yeah, so I went out to see I think it's a the Perseus meteor shower or something.
00:28:49
Some meteor shower was happening.
00:28:51
And so just went to the backyard.
00:28:53
Didn't see any mirrors, but at one point I saw like a big like something.
00:28:58
just go across the sky.
00:29:01
Dark.
00:29:02
Yeah.
00:29:03
Yeah.
00:29:04
Yeah.
00:29:05
It was probably an owl in hindsight, which is funny because the owl's in this movie and we had owls in the backyard.
00:29:12
But like I think about that every once in a while.
00:29:14
I wonder if that wasn't a bird.
00:29:15
Like what if it was something because it freaks me out.
00:29:17
I was probably only like 10 or 12.
00:29:22
Yeah, I think about it all the time.
00:29:24
I guess I did, but I-
00:29:28
I'm a skeptic.
00:29:30
No, I do believe aliens exist.
00:29:32
I think statistically that's true, period.
00:29:36
But whether or not they visited Earth, I'm not convinced.
00:29:43
there was...
00:29:44
Yeah.
00:29:47
True.
00:29:48
But I will say one time way back when I lived closer to downtown LA, there was...
00:29:54
I went out to get in the car with my friend because she was picking me up to go to downtown or something.
00:29:59
I don't know.
00:29:59
We were going somewhere and everybody was out on the street taking pictures because there was a huge flash of light in the sky.
00:30:07
And I still have a picture of it, but yeah, everybody was like, what is that?
00:30:12
And it does look weird.
00:30:14
And then it was trending all over Twitter.
00:30:17
And then LA was like, we were testing something.
00:30:19
And we were like, that?
00:30:20
Okay.
00:30:21
So a lot of people don't buy that.
00:30:23
Yeah.
00:30:25
But I don't know.
00:30:28
So I guess I have a I've had had the nocturnal lights.
00:30:33
Sure, I'll take that because it is unidentified.
00:30:37
Possibly.
00:30:37
Yeah, if you believe the L.A.
00:30:40
Yikes.
00:30:43
Yeah, I mean with all the there's so many like SpaceX launches and stuff nowadays that like I feel like people are getting immune to all the lights happening.
00:30:56
They need to really up the ante.
00:30:58
Yeah.
00:30:59
Plus wasn't it during COVID where everything was on fire and the world was burning so nobody was really paying attention and the government was like, yeah, there are UFOs.
00:31:09
This is a UFO, but we don't know what it is.
00:31:13
Is it aliens?
00:31:13
We don't know.
00:31:14
But there was something in the sky that we didn't know what it was.
00:31:17
And everybody kind of glossed over it because everything else was on fire.
00:31:21
Yeah, I mean, I think even now, if someone were to say, yep, alien race, I'd be like, add it to the list.
00:31:30
And also I think a UFO doesn't have to be extraterrestrial.
00:31:36
If it's unidentified, yeah, that's definitely happened where we just don't know what it is, but...
00:31:42
I also think there's a more like colloquially accepted term now than UFO.
00:31:51
I don't remember what it is.
00:31:52
Let me look, let me look, let me UAP, unidentified aerial phenomena.
00:31:59
Why are they trying to change UFO?
00:32:01
Just because it has the context of aliens now?
00:32:06
Fair.
00:32:07
I'm still gonna call it a UFO.
00:32:09
that's fair.
00:32:09
It's still correct.
00:32:11
Thank you.
00:32:13
Okay, can I touch back on the owls real quick?
00:32:17
Okay, so the owls in the movie are basically stand-ins for the greys.
00:32:21
You never actually see aliens in this movie, even though that's basically the central theme.
00:32:26
But people who are abducted or visited see owls.
00:32:31
What I found out is that that actually translates to real life claims of encounters.
00:32:40
People have said that they've seen owls around the same time as unexplained events.
00:32:46
kd.
00:32:47
So there's a book by Mike Clelland called The Messengers: Owls Synchronicity and the UFO Abductee, where he collected quite a few firsthand accounts of
00:32:58
people saying that owls manifested in moments that surrounded alien contact.
00:33:02
Interestingly though, the book came out in 2015, which is over five years after this movie came out, and I can't find anything connecting aliens and owls from before then.
00:33:15
I'm not saying that this movie influenced those accounts because I don't think this movie even was seen by enough people to...
00:33:24
to influence it, but I do find that very interesting, that there's nothing, at least that I could find, from before this movie came out.
00:33:33
It's a book?
00:33:35
What's it called?
00:33:36
The Messenger's Owls Synchronicity and the UFO Abductee by Mike Cleland.
00:33:41
adding it to my TBR.
00:33:43
great.
00:33:44
Yeah.
00:33:45
Let me know if it's good.
00:33:47
But yeah, I just thought that was really interesting.
00:33:49
I'm not saying that that there's no evidence.
00:33:54
Well, I'm saying I couldn't find any evidence of it being before this movie came out.
00:33:59
But it also would make sense to me.
00:34:02
Owls, night creatures, big eyes, round faces, people seeing that thinking it's an alien or connecting that with their supposed alien encounter.
00:34:14
I mean, I did without even knowing that.
00:34:16
I just thought it was a coincidence.
00:34:19
That's true, but you're saying it was either an alien or an owl, not that they were at the same time, right?
00:34:28
Or that the owl was there at a time of alien contact, which is what a lot of these people are saying.
00:34:36
Maybe it was.
00:34:38
Maybe you had a sixth encounter that night and you didn't even know.
00:34:41
No, that's not, I'm sorry.
00:34:43
A sixth encounter?
00:34:46
That's not appropriate.
00:34:48
I'm so sorry.
00:34:51
Ehh...
00:34:53
I do like aliens.
00:34:55
Yeah, I know.
00:34:57
I think to go back to your point that they don't even show the aliens, I think that that was effective.
00:35:04
That the sound it so.
00:35:07
Complaint and then I'll praise.
00:35:10
The color grading or the color editing of this movie was weird as hell.
00:35:14
It bothered me.
00:35:14
Like just pick a style and stick to it.
00:35:16
It was just like there were like four or five different palettes that we're working from.
00:35:21
But on the other hand, the sound engineering was really what did it for me.
00:35:26
The sounds of this movie really got to me.
00:35:29
The screaming, the like distorted ancient language.
00:35:35
So good.
00:35:36
And I think had they done anything else visually than what they had already done poorly, it would have taken away from that, like ambiance, you the sound maybe, you know what
00:35:50
mean?
00:35:50
Yeah.
00:35:51
So I'm glad they didn't give the aliens a shape.
00:35:56
feel like that would have...
00:35:58
If you're gonna try to push the whole, it's real, it's real, this is archive footage thing, you can't show the alien.
00:36:05
You know what I mean?
00:36:07
Yeah, was an excellent choice.
00:36:09
One of few, but...
00:36:10
Right, it's the same as Blair Witch in Paranormal.
00:36:13
You don't ever see it.
00:36:14
That's the whole point.
00:36:16
Because once you do, it's kind of like, OK, that's just hokey CGI or...
00:36:21
a person in a costume, you know what I mean?
00:36:23
Yeah, for sure.
00:36:25
Did the end credits too is just audio tracks of people calling like a UFO reporting center and explaining their sightings.
00:36:35
It's all fake, but I thought that that was kind of fun.
00:36:40
Yeah.
00:36:41
I agree.
00:36:42
Just adds to the vibes, to the ambiance.
00:36:46
Yeah.
00:36:48
Also, this is something I noticed only on this watch through, because the first time I watched it, I watched it on a TV, so I didn't notice.
00:36:55
But in the editing, they use a lot of split screens.
00:36:58
So half of the scene is the real quote unquote footage, and half of it is Milla Jovovich reenacting it.
00:37:07
And I listened to it with headphones, and I realized they're playing different audios in each ear.
00:37:13
So like the real would be happening.
00:37:15
in the left and then the reenactment would be happening in the right.
00:37:20
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
00:37:21
It was kind of a fun way to watch it if you haven't done that.
00:37:25
Was it when the screens were split and it was on the appropriate side?
00:37:30
cool, I do like that.
00:37:32
Yeah, I'd never noticed that before, and I liked it.
00:37:34
I was like, wait, this movie's more fun with headphones.
00:37:37
Yeah, that sounds fun.
00:37:39
I watched it over the course of three nights.
00:37:43
oh.
00:37:44
on a TV, a big TV.
00:37:46
It took you three nights?
00:37:48
Yeah, I fell asleep.
00:37:51
Yeah, classic kd.
00:37:52
Not because of the movie, I was just tired.
00:37:55
Yeah, you do that a lot.
00:37:56
I
00:37:57
Yeah, doesn't take away from the experience at all.
00:38:00
Just have to watch it again.
00:38:01
That's all.
00:38:03
This doesn't have anything to do with like fun facts or anything.
00:38:06
I just thought it was funny while I was rewatching it.
00:38:09
I just think it's really funny to be accused of kidnapping your own kid.
00:38:12
Not, I know that that happens.
00:38:15
Actually more often when a kid gets taken it's by the other parent.
00:38:18
But again, that's usually one parent kidnapping it from the other parent who typically has like soul or most custody.
00:38:27
Not the only parent kidnapping her own kid.
00:38:31
And taking them where?
00:38:32
Like what?
00:38:34
How did they think there was a guy sitting outside?
00:38:37
Yeah.
00:38:38
Which that infuriated me that that guy sitting outside was literally in the video saying, they're taking them from the house, they're taking from the house.
00:38:46
And then what?
00:38:47
Like they just didn't get that guy's testimony?
00:38:49
Like what?
00:38:50
Yeah, well, and that, guess, I don't know, they kind of tried to write it off when she was like, what did he say happened?
00:38:57
And they're like, he's not gonna talk, like he's not talking about it.
00:38:59
So I feel like they were trying to go for like, he was so traumatized by what happened.
00:39:04
He just couldn't, or maybe he like convinced himself it wasn't happening.
00:39:09
But yeah, you would think that that would help her case.
00:39:13
Although the charges were dropped, so maybe it did.
00:39:16
The charges, quote unquote, the charges.
00:39:20
in this very real story.
00:39:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in real life, Milla Jovovich was cleared of all charges.
00:39:26
Hahaha.
00:39:27
Wow, crazy that both Milla Jovovich and this lady, Dr.
00:39:30
Tyler, were both accused of the exact same thing.
00:39:35
So crazy.
00:39:36
I'm not gonna hold you, I don't have a lot more fun facts.
00:39:39
Do you have any more that you want to say?
00:39:42
OK.
00:39:42
You said I don't have a lot more, so I thought maybe you had.
00:39:45
I think I thought I said it anymore.
00:39:47
I don't have any more.
00:39:48
I don't have a lot of fun facts total.
00:39:51
Anymore.
00:39:52
No, really.
00:39:53
of interviews because it got so much backlash that I think they just...
00:39:56
They tried to pretend that nothing ever happened.
00:40:00
Where did you go?
00:40:02
kd, I don't know.
00:40:04
That was so weird!
00:40:06
I hope it recorded exactly-
00:40:07
What's happening?
00:40:08
Device struggling to record.
00:40:10
That was so apt for what's happening right
00:40:15
Alright, for everybody who's listening who was very confused by what just happened, my camera started glitching as we were talking about, obviously, this movie.
00:40:25
So we basically had a close encounter of, the second kind while talking about the fourth?
00:40:30
So that's kind of funny.
00:40:31
But that's why kd lost her mind and I was laughing so hard.
00:40:35
It was a camera glitch.
00:40:38
I've since, yeah, I have now restarted my camera.
00:40:41
We are good to go.
00:40:42
Yes, we had to restart whole computers, but we're good.
00:40:45
We're good.
00:40:45
We're good.
00:40:46
That's so funny.
00:40:47
Anyway, should we rate it?
00:40:49
Sure.
00:40:50
Are we ready?
00:40:51
That's what we were arguing when you had your alien encounter.
00:40:55
Well, no, I thought it was funny that you said, I don't have a lot of fun facts left and then you didn't have any.
00:41:00
But I do have one last fun fact.
00:41:04
The director actually plays himself as the person interviewing the real Dr.
00:41:10
Tyler in the movie, which I thought was fun.
00:41:13
Yeah.
00:41:14
I'm telling you the con you said it too.
00:41:17
The concept of the movie is not bad.
00:41:21
Yeah, it's the execution.
00:41:23
Yeah.
00:41:25
It's frustrating, but it happens.
00:41:28
All right, now let's rate it.
00:41:31
We're gonna rate it.
00:41:31
How scared do you think it was?
00:41:33
I gave it a one out of five, because I do remember the first time I watched this.
00:41:37
And there's a couple of moments of tension that I feel like worked well.
00:41:41
I think specifically when the cop is sitting outside of the house and it like zooms in on the roof.
00:41:48
I was so expecting a signs-esque type of jump scare there.
00:41:53
It didn't happen, but I feel like that tension added to me being nervous the first time I watched it.
00:41:59
What about you?
00:42:01
Okay.
00:42:02
the sound editing.
00:42:04
The distorted Samarian, the screaming on the tape, it just added some like atmospheric unsettle.
00:42:12
That's what I'm calling it.
00:42:14
And I do think withholding the actual aliens was a good choice to build and maintain tension.
00:42:18
Agree.
00:42:19
Yeah, that definitely worked.
00:42:22
How sexy did you think it was?
00:42:24
I mean aliens always have something about them even if you don't see them like there's always something you know.
00:42:31
Yeah, it's the vibe.
00:42:32
It's just the vibes, but this was also all very like family crisis oriented.
00:42:39
So and which is not sexy.
00:42:40
So I only gave it a 1.5.
00:42:43
Is that what you gave it?
00:42:46
Yeah.
00:42:47
Yeah, because like Milla Jovovich, Aliens, there's something there, but it's not a lot.
00:42:53
It's not as much as you would think for an Alien movie.
00:42:55
Yeah, and had they shown the aliens it would have Greatly increased the sexy factor, but then you know the scary everything else would have gone down.
00:43:04
Yeah.
00:43:04
Yeah, it's a fine line to toe Yeah, how fucked up did you think it was?
00:43:11
I give it a .5.
00:43:12
I mean, it's PG-13, right?
00:43:15
It's not too crazy.
00:43:19
What about you?
00:43:20
I gave it a one.
00:43:22
I think what's fucked up about this movie is them taking advantage of real missing persons cases and real tragedies and trying to profit off them, but...
00:43:30
and also the gross misrepresentation of both the cultural and biological and ecological diversity of central Alaska.
00:43:37
For that, it deserves much higher, but within the confines of the story, I just gave it a one.
00:43:45
Because of her kid going missing forever or what?
00:43:49
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:51
Fair.
00:43:52
Overall, what'd you think?
00:43:55
I wanted to love it.
00:43:56
I did.
00:43:57
I really tried.
00:43:59
The concept is so good.
00:44:00
The execution was just off.
00:44:01
The acting was a little like, eh.
00:44:04
The editing was, eh.
00:44:07
I don't think there was quite enough like discourse during the film either to really get me thinking like they tell you to do in the first two minutes of the film.
00:44:16
So it just felt kind of like almost kind of like pompous weirdly.
00:44:21
And
00:44:22
Ultimately, I do think it's fine to take inspiration from things that happen in real life.
00:44:26
We do that all the time, but to like directly rip off and then capitalize on people's losses and largely indigenous people's losses is like kind of not appropriate.
00:44:36
So all to say, I still gave it a three.
00:44:39
Okay!
00:44:41
The bones!
00:44:43
The bones saved it!
00:44:44
How about you?
00:44:48
Yeah, I think there are some really good aspects to this.
00:44:51
We've said it the whole time.
00:44:53
At its base, I think there's an interesting story here.
00:44:56
Mm-hmm.
00:44:57
Then they added in the like hokey, real footage, dramatization stuff, and it just didn't, it doesn't land.
00:45:04
So again, I think they should have either stuck to found footage or stuck with just a movie starring Mila Jovovich.
00:45:11
Either one of those, if they had committed, I think it would have been fine.
00:45:15
But the way they ended up doing it, it just kind of felt cheesy.
00:45:18
Like it felt a little lifetime movie-y.
00:45:22
And I forgot, because I haven't seen this movie in years.
00:45:27
And I forgot that it started with Milla Jovovich introducing herself and like the concept of the movie and it fried me.
00:45:35
What?
00:45:36
Why would they ever do that or think that that was good?
00:45:39
And the ending is awful.
00:45:41
Choose what you believe.
00:45:43
Even like this.
00:45:44
It was so, those two parts, even if you just cut those off, it would be better.
00:45:51
But all in all, I gave it, I split it right down the middle, 2.5.
00:45:56
Yeah.
00:45:57
It had the opportunity.
00:45:58
That's almost what hurts the most, is that it could have been good.
00:46:03
And they chose to make it not.
00:46:06
Yeah, they just needed to stick with pseudo documentary.
00:46:12
That's really what it boils down to.
00:46:14
It needed to be Lake Mungo aliens.
00:46:18
Shoulda been, coulda been.
00:46:19
I, this movie made me really respect Lake Mungo a little bit more, really appreciate Lake Mungo more because it did a good job.
00:46:29
This is the moment I've been waiting for, is you liking like manga.
00:46:33
Well, no, you still don't like it, but respecting it.
00:46:35
Yeah, I respect it.
00:46:36
Absolutely.
00:46:37
Because it executed.
00:46:41
Yeah.
00:46:42
Yeah.
00:46:43
If this had the direction, like kept the story and put it in the vibes and the direction of Mungo, it would have been good.
00:46:53
So good.
00:46:55
I hope they remake it sometime.
00:46:57
It's prime and ready for a remake.
00:47:00
Yeah, 20 years?
00:47:01
15 years, I mean.
00:47:03
The sixth kind?
00:47:04
We're ready.
00:47:05
No, I'm just kidding.
00:47:06
yeah.
00:47:07
ah
00:47:11
Alright, would you survive?
00:47:14
I think there's two scenarios.
00:47:16
Okay.
00:47:17
both in which I die.
00:47:20
The first scenario is I don't remember the nightly abductions as the aliens intend and I go crazy and die like several other people in the film.
00:47:30
Okay.
00:47:31
I definitely don't have the mental fortitude to withstand any of that.
00:47:35
I'm dead.
00:47:35
And then the second scenario is I do remember the alien abductions and I am ready and waiting every night for my alien daddies to take me and then I die.
00:47:45
Okay, but we don't know if they die when they're taken.
00:47:48
You could argue that they're living in the spaceship with the aliens.
00:47:55
Yeah, that's the dream.
00:47:58
That's what we can only hope.
00:48:00
But you know what?
00:48:01
I decide Milla Jovovich told me so.
00:48:05
So...
00:48:07
And I think they die.
00:48:08
I think the aliens take them and they die.
00:48:11
Yeah.
00:48:12
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:13
How about you?
00:48:14
I think I live.
00:48:17
Yeah, because technically in my eyes, only the guy who family annihilates, like they're the people who die, right?
00:48:26
Well, then the one, no, he just broke his back, right?
00:48:28
He's in the hospital.
00:48:28
He's fine.
00:48:29
He lived.
00:48:31
So in my mind, that's the only people who die.
00:48:33
And if I start getting visited by aliens, I'm just checking myself in because I, I know, right?
00:48:39
Like I'm
00:48:40
Yeah.
00:48:41
I'm just gonna take care of that, because I'm gonna assume it's a mental health problem, knowing who I am as a person.
00:48:46
So I think I'm okay.
00:48:48
And in my mind, even if I did get abducted, I think they're fine.
00:48:52
Maybe not fine.
00:48:54
They're probably not fine.
00:48:56
But I think they're alive.
00:48:58
Okay.
00:49:00
Okay.
00:49:01
Well, some discourse to round us out.
00:49:05
Yeah, what would this podcast be without us fighting?
00:49:12
That's true.
00:49:14
Let's revisit.
00:49:16
Never mind.
00:49:17
Never mind.
00:49:18
no, let's do it.
00:49:20
I was going bring up The Menu, but I like that movie now, so.
00:49:22
Yeah, that's true.
00:49:23
We can't even use that as a reference anymore.
00:49:26
We have to pick, like, It Follows, because that was still crazy.
00:49:29
I still think about that at night.
00:49:30
I go to bed thinking...
00:49:33
That was...
00:49:34
I don't even think about that, because in my mind, that didn't happen.
00:49:38
That was crazy.
00:49:40
In my mind, I go to bed and I'm like, I can't believe kd didn't like It Follows.
00:49:45
It haunts me.
00:49:47
Yeah.
00:49:48
You can watch it again, maybe.
00:49:50
Give it at six months.
00:49:53
Yeah.
00:49:54
Yeah, that works.
00:49:55
That's worked every time.
00:49:56
100 % of the time.
00:49:57
100 % of all one times.
00:49:58
225th episode where we talk about It Follows again.
00:50:02
By that time, I'll forget we even talked about it in the first place.
00:50:04
That's true.
00:50:04
By then the sequel will have come out.
00:50:07
We can do a double feature.
00:50:08
double feature.
00:50:11
All right.
00:50:13
I know you're ready to predict next week's movie.
00:50:17
Alright, next week we are talking about the autopsy of Jane Doe.
00:50:20
Tell me what it's about.
00:50:22
Okay, it's in the title.
00:50:25
It's, it's, really is.
00:50:27
It's a medical horror thriller in which an unnamed woman, henceforth referred to as Jane Doe, is found dead floating in a river.
00:50:38
And the movie takes 100 % place inside the morgue outside of that first scene.
00:50:43
We find her in the river and then it's 100 % in the morgue from then on.
00:50:46
Okay.
00:50:48
and we get to follow along the autopsy and a series of like phone calls and people visiting the morgue.
00:50:56
And the doctor is performing the autopsy and sort of piecing together what happened to her.
00:51:02
And then the last scene of the film is the day the autopsy is finished.
00:51:06
And the report is about to be published.
00:51:08
You see like an over the shoulder of the doctor writing his report.
00:51:12
He's about to hit submit on the report.
00:51:14
And then someone comes up behind him and kills him.
00:51:16
ah No!
00:51:18
it's one of the people that was visiting the morgue throughout the movie.
00:51:23
And then he bends over the keyboard and you see him hitting backspace on the line where the doctor had just filled out cause of death and deletes his own name.
00:51:35
The guy that killed the doctor deletes his own name off the autopsy report and then publishes the autopsy report.
00:51:40
And then it's just like quick little flashes of all the doctor, all the things that the doctor saw throughout the
00:51:46
the time throughout the autopsy that the audience didn't.
00:51:50
Wow!
00:51:54
Rest in peace, Jane Doe.
00:51:57
Doesn't that sound fun?
00:51:58
Isn't that a fun movie, The Autopsy of Jane Doe?
00:52:00
Thank you.
00:52:02
Yeah, spoiler.
00:52:04
No, but...
00:52:06
But I wish.
00:52:08
That sounds great.
00:52:10
It sounds really good.
00:52:11
And I'll be honest with you, you were cooking in the first half of that.
00:52:17
Which I mean, it's in the name, but still very, very strong showing for you.
00:52:24
Let me tell you what.
00:52:25
Yeah.
00:52:26
Not quite.
00:52:27
It's not quite how it goes near the end, but I would love to see your version.
00:52:32
Yeah.
00:52:32
Yeah.
00:52:33
An alternate ending perhaps on the end of the DVD.
00:52:37
I don't think it would really fit with the movie, but sure.
00:52:43
Yeah, yeah, it is about a Jane Doe who has an autopsy though.
00:52:47
Nailed that part.
00:52:49
Yeah.
00:52:50
Whole movie taking place in the morgue?
00:52:52
Pretty much.
00:52:54
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:58
Well, maybe I'll like it.
00:53:00
Who's to say?
00:53:01
Only us next week.
00:53:03
I would like what I wrote.
00:53:05
So if it was closest sort of.
00:53:09
Just the autopsy part.
00:53:10
The ending is not really what happens.
00:53:13
But it is kind of a fun little mystery thriller that I think that you'll like, maybe.
00:53:19
Who knows?
00:53:20
Do I even know what you like these days?
00:53:22
No.
00:53:22
But we'll see.
00:53:25
It's all over the place.
00:53:26
true.
00:53:26
Alright, well, tell us about your alien encounters in the comments.
00:53:36
Which kind they were.
00:53:38
one through six, especially tell us about the sixth kind.
00:53:41
If it was a sixth, reach out through email because I was like, I'm going to have follow up questions.
00:53:50
I will.
00:53:51
Yeah.
00:53:52
Interviewing you on what happened specifically in detail.
00:53:56
It won't air.
00:53:57
It'll be on our Patreon.
00:53:59
no, we don't have a Patreon.
00:54:04
go looking for it and when you don't find it complain so that then we'll make one
00:54:07
Yeah, if you want a Patreon, eight people who listen, please let us know in the comments.
00:54:15
And other than that, I'm excited to watch Autopsy of Jane Doe next week.
00:54:22
And I hope you guys have a fantastic July.
00:54:27
And that's all.
00:54:28
Yeah.
00:54:29
We're that's it.
00:54:31
Yep.
00:54:31
That's it, that's it.
00:54:33
One day we'll get better at these, but not today.
00:54:36
So there you go.
00:54:37
See you next Tuesday.
00:54:40
Fantastic.
00:54:41
Bye.
00:54:42
Bye.