Horror News
👻 Sam Raimi and Danny Elfman reuniting: https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3870324/danny-elfman-to-reunite-with-sam-raimi-for-send-help-soundtrack/
👻 Damien Leone promises Art the Clown’s backstory: https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3870461/terrifier-4-damien-leone-promises-arts-backstory-in-first-15-minutes/
👻 John Cena wants to do a horror movie: https://collider.com/john-cena-horror-movie/
👻 ‘The Home’ starring Pete Davidson trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRWYNpg5YRA
In this episode of the Killer Cuties podcast, hosts Cassidy and Cassidy KD celebrate Cassidy's birthday and dive into exciting movie news, including collaborations between renowned filmmakers and upcoming horror films. They transition into a detailed discussion about the psychological horror film 'It Follows', exploring its unique premise, plot points, and dreamlike qualities. In this conversation, the hosts delve into various themes surrounding horror movies, particularly focusing on the tropes of vampires, clowns, and ghosts. They discuss the significance of informed consent in horror narratives, the importance of friendship and support in the face of supernatural threats, and the contrasting perspectives of critics and audiences regarding film reception. Additionally, they share fun facts about the film's production and explore the nature of the entity in the movie, including its rules and implications. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the themes and mechanics of the horror film 'It Follows', discussing the nature of the entity, the implications of its transmission, and the potential for a sequel. They explore the film's unique take on horror, its emotional depth, and the societal issues it reflects. The hosts also share their ratings and personal impressions of the film, while speculating on future developments in the franchise and sharing creative ideas for new horror films.
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Hello?
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Hi.
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Hi, happy Tuesday.
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Happy Tuesday.
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Welcome back to the Killer Cuties podcast.
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That's us.
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It is us.
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Happy June.
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Ugh, yes, the best-
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If you're listening to this, yes, it is my birthday.
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Today we're recording, it's not my birthday, so you don't have to, you
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But yes, if you're listening to this, tell me happy birthday.
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Yeah, please.
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Well, we're here talk about It Follows.
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But we'll hit you with some news first.
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I have two little ones.
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I'll go first.
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Okay, Sam Raimi and Danny Elfman have partnered on several movie scores from Spider-Man 1 and 2, Doctor Strange, Army of Darkness.
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They've reunited for the upcoming survival thriller horror movie called Send Help.
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Mmm.
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scheduled to hit theaters in January of 2026.
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So about six or seven months from now.
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It's about two colleagues who become stranded on a deserted island after surviving a plane crash.
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It doesn't to me sound like a Danny Elfman score.
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I mean, usually his scores are a little bit more like fantasy and whimsical and a
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be a fanta- fantastical whimsical island.
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Yeah, maybe, or a fantastical whimsical plane crash.
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Or both.
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Yeah, who's to say, but they're partnering again.
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We can we get that.
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Yeah, I'm into it.
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Yeah, I'll watch it twist my arm.
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Yeah, I like him.
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Danny Elfman.
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See, maybe he's fine.
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Also, they're both, yeah, they're both good.
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Yep.
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Great, the KD seal of approval.
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Alright, my first news for people like kd, who are huge fans of the Terrifier franchise, I have some news.
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I read this I purposely didn't mention it because I didn't want to
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Yeah, I figured.
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Damien Leone has recently promised that in the upcoming Terrifier 4, we're finally gonna get Art's origin story.
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There's been three movies.
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We really don't know much about him.
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He also then recently doubled down on that.
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He said that the backstory is going to be within the first 15 minutes of the film, so you're getting it right away.
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Yeah, he said it's going to be epic and it's not going to disappoint fans.
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He also said that the script's coming along very nicely and that it's going to be a satisfying conclusion to the franchise.
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so it's over.
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Yay!
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Well.
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If I had a nickel for every time a franchise said this is the last one and then it wasn't the last one, I would be very rich.
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So I think if it does well financially, which I'm assuming it will.
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I can't imagine there won't be more terrifying films in the future, but...
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so goes life.
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you.
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Yay, fans.
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So happy for you guys.
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Sounds like it.
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Yeah.
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Well, maybe, star of Terrifier 4 will be John Cena because he made an appearance at a fan expo in Philadelphia where he participated in a fan Q &A.
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One fan asked him if he was ever in a horror film, would he want to be the villain or the person being killed?
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And he just said, yes.
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He would love to be in a horror movie and he doesn't care what part he plays.
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Wow.
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uh
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Yeah, he says he's ready and to call him.
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Horror people, you know what to do.
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What a terrifying villain, one they can't see.
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Invisible Man remake coming up soon, starring John Cena.
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The invisible man can see.
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Well yeah, but we can't see him.
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That's his whole thing.
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We can't see John Cena.
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So he's the invisible man.
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do you mean?
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I don't understand.
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Is that a joke?
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Yeah, John Cena's whole thing is, can't see me.
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Uh, that's dumb.
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Why?
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I don't know.
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Did you know that he is the record holder for most make-a-wishes fulfilled?
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That's actually really sweet.
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Yeah, I think he's done more than literally Disneyland.
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Which is crazy.
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And if, if it's not, yeah.
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Yeah, his, his heel origin story or something.
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don't fucking know.
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I don't know, wrestling.
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Yeah, I don't really either, but I know that he does the you can't see me thing.
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And then that's it's a whole joke where fans will take pictures with him and people will be like, why did you take a picture standing in front of nothing?
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You know, because you can't see him.
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It is funny.
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Yeah, I'm glad that you get the joke now.
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Yeah.
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Wow, that would have been real funny if I'd gotten it.
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The invisible man joke.
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if I made that joke right now, it would kill.
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Let's just get that straight.
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Yeah.
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Alright, last news from me.
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The Purge creator and director, James DeMonaco, he has a new movie coming out.
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It's coming out this summer and it's gonna star none other than SNL alum, Pete Davidson.
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Pete Davidson in a horror movie coming soon.
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uh
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horror movies.
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Bodies, Bodies, Bodies.
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Yeah.
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This one does not seem like it's gonna be a comedy.
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It's called The Home.
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Yeah, it seems very straightforward horror.
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Called The Home, coming to theaters July 25th of this year.
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Summer flick.
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people are shaking in their boots.
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Let me tell you what.
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called the home, that's like your least favorite place for a horror movie to take place.
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It's not that type of home though, I'll tell you.
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Yeah, so they released the trailer.
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First trailer out, we'll link it in the description.
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The plot overview is a rebellious 20-something is sentenced to community service at a quiet retirement home.
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Yes.
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Exactly, yeah.
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The residents on the fourth floor are strictly off limits, said to require special care.
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As his suspicions grow and he digs deeper, he uncovers a chilling secret that puts both the residents' lives and his own in grave danger.
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That has to be funny.
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I watched the trailer.
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It does not read comedy at all.
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Not even a little bit.
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Did the trailer look good?
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No.
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But!
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Who knows?
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Maybe it'll surprise me.
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I don't know.
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I thought...
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Yeah, I liked The Purge.
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I like most of them, all of them.
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I like them all.
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They're all fine.
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yeah.
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Yeah, this didn't look like it was for me, but maybe it looks like it's for you.
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You'll have to watch it yourself and find out.
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No, just the generalized you.
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Yeah, anybody who's listening, don't take my opinion from it.
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Some movies are really good and they don't have the best trailers.
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And a lot of the comments on it seemed like people were excited for it, so who am I to say?
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Well, go see it or don't.
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Yeah, maybe watch the trailer and see if it sparks joy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And then in a few months when it comes out or in a month, when does it come out?
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The summer.
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July.
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Two months.
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Now we're going to talk about It Follows.
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I'll give you a little, little, some facts, some statistics.
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Hit me.
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It Follows is a 2014 psychological horror about a teenager played by Maika Monroe who sleeps with her new boyfriend and subsequently receives a fatal curse that is passed from
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victim to victim by sexual intercourse.
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It was written and directed by David Robert Mitchell, had a $1.3 million budget and recouped $23.3 million at the box office.
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It has a 3.4 out of 5 stars on the Letterboxd, a 6.8 out of 10 on IMDb and a pretty large spread
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of 95 % from critics and 66 % from audiences on Rotten Tomatoes.
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But yeah, so we're gonna talk about it.
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We are, yeah.
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Where should we start?
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I have lots of thoughts.
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Okay, do you want to start?
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Yeah, I'll start by first saying that Maika Monroe in this movie looks like Brittany Murphy from Uptown Girls.
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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Not really.
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They're both blonde, is that?
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Not typically.
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Hold on, let me, just, just give me a second.
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Let me,
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It's, I mean, there's a similarity.
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Okay.
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She also, you know who else she kind of looks like?
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One of the girls named Aly and AJ, one of the two of them, either Aly or a, wait, let me look.
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That I see more than the Brittany Murphy.
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I'm not seeing the Brittany Murphy.
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Yeah, I think, yes.
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I'm getting closer.
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I'm articulating.
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Who the fuck is who?
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How do know which one's which?
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They're in different orders on every picture.
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I know which one's which.
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Aly was on Phil of the Future.
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AJ was not.
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Yeah, so she looks more like Aly.
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Yes.
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Monroe looks like Aly from Aly and AJ and a little bit Brittany Murphy from Uptown Girls.
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See, I almost feel like she looks more like Aly and AJ combined than Brittany Murphy.
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I'm not getting the Brittany Murphy, I'm so sorry.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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I kind of see it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Cool.
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Yeah, we figured it out.
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Yeah.
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So that's what you felt so strongly about that you had to say.
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I just was trying to find a way to kick us off and that's where yeah Thank you
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I said last episode that I almost wish I had showed you this movie sooner.
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Do you know now which movie I wanted to show you this before?
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Smile?
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Is that a smile or Halloween?
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Yeah, no, I would not show you the blue, the, well, the copy after the blueprint.
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That wouldn't make sense.
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You got to watch Halloween before you watch the movies that were inspired by it, you know?
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Yeah, no.
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But no, during our episode on Smile, I was like, no, there's another movie that like did this concept kind of already.
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And that was, It Follows.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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different, but.
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The first time I saw a smile, was like, this is just jumpscare, It Follows.
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What does that make It Follows?
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Indie smile.
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Okay.
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Yeah, well I think smile was also kind of indie, wasn't it?
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Yeah.
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2 is definitely a lot more commercialized.
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Yeah.
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can we talk about the like plot points?
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The plot holes, the plot holes.
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There weren't, there wasn't a plot, but the plot holes.
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Well, not really.
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They get a disease and then they have to get rid of it.
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Halloween doesn't have a plot.
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We've had this conversation.
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But you can't say it doesn't have a plot and say the plot.
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That's, you know.
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Okay, well has a very minimal plot then.
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Sure.
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But the plot holes specifically is what I'm...
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In the first 10 minutes of the film, a universe is established that is then immediately...
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destroyed.
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The whole concept.
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Like, oh, it's gonna keep walking straight towards ya.
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And it'll kill ya if it catches ya.
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And neither of those things happen.
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What do mean?
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well, so it stops a lot, very frequently it stops.
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Yes, and also when it gets to you, it can pull your hair, it can what, throw things, it can pick things up and throw them at you, it can stop at the side of the pool and pick up
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something and throw it at you.
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Yeah, well, because I think he does kind of establish when he's walking her through it that it's not stupid.
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So although it does walk towards you, I think the pool scene is the movie showing that it is capable of that.
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It's not stupid.
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It's not just going to walk right in.
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It's assessing what's going on and then fighting back because that's it's not dumb.
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But yeah, it touching her hair was definitely just for the cinema of it all.
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Absolutely.
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But I feel like in some ways I'm a little bit more willing to forgive it for those moments because the inspiration for it was this nightmare that the director had and he wanted the
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whole movie to feel like that.
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And sometimes nightmares don't really make sense.
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That doesn't always follow the premise that it's set forth.
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So I feel like it was successful in fulfilling what it set out to be.
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That also feels like an excuse.
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Like, you didn't get it?
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that's because it's based on a nightmare.
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Nightmares don't always make sense.
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it had plotholes?
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I had a nightmare and those plotholes were part of it, so.
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Yeah, I mean, that's valid.
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I think in a movie that's not really based in reality, I'm more willing to forgive those things than I would be if it was supposed to be like a really grounded, realistic story.
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Not many horror movies are.
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No.
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But I think, you when it comes to like a slasher where it's a real person killing people, I'm going to be more critical because it's not in that, right, it's not in that
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supernatural fantasy setting.
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Whereas when it's this entity that follows you, not really going to be as critical of that kind of stuff.
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But if you are there, I'm not, who am I to judge?
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Yeah.
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I think that the attention to detail for the like dream concept was actually pretty good.
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mean, they clearly did put some thought into that.
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They did not maintain a lot of consistency with like the eras of cars or the like weathering of clothing.
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Like in some scenes they're wearing jackets and some scenes it's like pitch black dark outside and they're wearing basically no clothes and
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Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, the timeframes.
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You mentioned like a lot of the decor is very old fashioned.
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The cars are never set to one decade.
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The TV is very old, but then she's got this clamshell device that's an e-reader that like seems very futuristic.
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So it's, you can't really pinpoint it to one time.
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Yeah.
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Also, the mother never really has a clear shot of her face.
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Like you never see Jay and Kelly's mom in a clear shot.
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Her hair is always covering her face.
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That felt very like dreamy to me.
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a lot of times you can't formulate it.
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You're not just going to come up with it.
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I think that's a thing.
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I think that's actually a thing where you're not, you can't create faces you haven't seen in dreams.
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Yeah, I've heard that.
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I'll be honest and say I've never fact-checked it, but it makes sense, I guess, that you're just pulling from things that you've already seen.
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But I do, to your point, that is very dreamlike of, like, you never see someone's face, but you know who it is.
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You know it's their mom.
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Or, you know, in your dream, you know it's your mom, but you never see her.
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Very, very much a dreamlike type of situation.
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We keep calling it the entity, but a lot of people call it it.
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Which, why are we allowed to do that?
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because it's called It Follows.
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Yeah, but, doesn't Stephen King have anything to say about that?
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No, because he can't copyright it.
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That's a word.
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As the name of an entity he absolutely could.
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So it is not Pennywise's name.
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Pennywise is its name, it's not its name.
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Well, yeah, they can't.
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Well, actually, I'm pretty sure you can write a book with the same name as another book, so.
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as long as it's not easily mistaken.
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Yeah, you can write a book called It about a clown and design it the same way that Stephen King designed it.
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There were lot of between, I mean, people pointed out several similarities between it and It Follows in that there's this shape shifting entity following children around.
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A town.
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Yeah, I feel like they're kind of reaching just because it has it in the name, but sure.
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I tried to find Stephen King's thoughts on this movie.
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It's absolutely fucking impossible.
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Because it's just going to be buried.
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Stephen King It and get anything other than...
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Yeah.
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Speaking of, Maika Monroe did a film with Bill Skarsgard, so yeah, they did a little horror comedy called Villains.
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oh
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out this week, I think I messaged you about it.
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That Bill Skarsgard is reprising his role as Penny in The Derry Show.
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I didn't realize that.
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I feel like we talked about it, but it sounds like something we would have talked about.
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yeah.
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I forgot.
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I still haven't seen either It or It Chapter 2, so...
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Well, you made me take it off the list.
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why.
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Well, I said, I need to remove it because we did Clown in a Cornfield and I was like, we can't have two clowns in a row.
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And then you said, just get rid of it altogether.
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I've already seen the original.
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And I said, oh, but I thought you wanted to watch the remake.
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And you said, no, it's fine.
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Let's watch new stuff.
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I do still want to watch it.
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I mean, we can.
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I'm just clarifying that you asked me to remove it.
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Yeah,
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To be clear,
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and we've done three clown movies.
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Three clown franchises.
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You know, that seems like a lot.
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We've done more than three vampires, there's zombies.
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You feel like it's been too many?
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It's just, yeah, like how many clown movies are there compared to ghost movies?
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Well no, there's an insane amount of ghost movies.
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But compared to like vampire movies, probably similar.
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How many vampire movies have we done?
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Just the two?
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Let me count.
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3 as well.
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Okay.
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So there you go.
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I'm not even afraid of clowns.
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I just think it's a dumb trope.
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Why can't we just let clowns be fun and have fun?
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Yeah.
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There's a negative stigma.
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Well, let's get back to this movie that talks about the one thing with no stigma behind it, sex.
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Ha ha!
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Yeah, it's a very straightforward allegory for STDs.
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Very straightforward.
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No, there's no tiptoeing around it.
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I...
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No, I agree.
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However, personally, at its base, I think that this movie is more about informed consent and sexual assault.
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OK.
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I don't think a man had those intentions creating this movie.
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I don't think his intentions went past, had this dream, yeah, I had this dream where something followed me, what's a way that people could transfer it, sex.
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That's what I think he was thinking when he made it.
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However, when I watch it, that's what I think of because there's that whole scene where she's talking to the police and he asked her if it was consensual and she's crying and
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saying, yes.
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Yeah.
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But the whole thing is that she wouldn't have said yes had she known.
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And that's why informed consent is so important.
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And that's why it is sexual assault if you do not inform, like have fully informed consent.
00:21:25
So that's what I kind of see it as.
00:21:26
I know some people have watched it and taken it as more of like a slut-shaming type of thing where it's like.
00:21:32
cue the gym teacher from Mean Girls, if you have sex you will get pregnant and die, like that's, which I can, I see that too.
00:21:40
Like I see why people would watch it and think that.
00:21:43
But for me, don't, her friends never shame her for hooking up with this guy.
00:21:48
There's more of this stigma of her not being believed about what happened and what's happening to her.
00:21:55
And there's that kind of like public shame that's being put on her about it.
00:21:59
Yeah.
00:21:59
So I think that's why my mind goes more towards sexual assault.
00:22:03
um But I guess I get both sides of the coin.
00:22:07
Yeah, I think that's a very reasonable takeaway for any woman to have.
00:22:14
Yeah.
00:22:15
But I do, one thing I do love about this movie, when it comes to supernatural movies and someone, like something's happening to someone that no one else can see, that trope is
00:22:26
used a lot.
00:22:27
And I think the go-to is just nobody believes them.
00:22:31
And what I love that this movie does is that her friends don't really believe her, but they still are with her and support her every step of the way.
00:22:39
And I love that because I think that's more realistic of what would actually happen.
00:22:43
Like if my friend came to me and was like, something's chasing me that only I can see, I don't really think I believe them, but I believe that they believe it, you know?
00:22:53
And that's what's more important.
00:22:54
Like I'm still going to help them, even if I maybe don't fully believe that what they think is happening is real,
00:23:02
Good to know, good to know next time I'm in psychosis.
00:23:06
I will get you the help that you need.
00:23:08
Thank you.
00:23:09
So you think this movie has redeeming qualities?
00:23:12
You don't?
00:23:14
I didn't say that.
00:23:15
Yes, I do.
00:23:17
Okay.
00:23:18
Good to know.
00:23:20
Because you were very blase about it last week.
00:23:24
You were like, we're going to find out if I like this movie like everybody else does or if I don't.
00:23:29
yeah, I gotta keep you on your toes.
00:23:31
I can't just pick a movie and then have you be like, she likes it and go into it thinking that I like it.
00:23:38
Cause then that might influence you a little bit.
00:23:41
And I don't, I want you to go in uninfluenced.
00:23:44
Yeah.
00:23:45
Which way would that influence me perhaps?
00:23:47
Would I like it more because you like it or would I like it less to spite you?
00:23:51
I think you would like it more.
00:23:54
because I think that you're a good friend and I think that you have at least some level of respect for my opinions.
00:24:04
Okay.
00:24:05
that you would carry into it with you.
00:24:07
You'd be like, I want to see what she sees, you know what I mean?
00:24:11
Even if you didn't.
00:24:13
Yeah.
00:24:13
Yeah.
00:24:15
Okay.
00:24:16
Right?
00:24:16
No?
00:24:18
Okay.
00:24:19
Yes until no, you know what I mean?
00:24:23
We haven't found that yet, but yes until no.
00:24:26
Yeah, I don't think we found a movie that I love that you well, The Menu was the closest we got.
00:24:32
Where you really did not see any redeeming qualities, but you've since rewatched and
00:24:37
point, I rewatched it because you're like, yeah, don't rewatch it.
00:24:41
and you realized I was right.
00:24:43
Yeah, well, you're welcome.
00:24:46
Thank you.
00:24:47
Yeah, that movie's fine.
00:24:48
Good.
00:24:49
It's good.
00:24:51
I will be right even if it takes me years!
00:24:56
It did, yeah.
00:24:58
But that was the time that you needed to see it with fresh eyes.
00:25:02
I was new to horror.
00:25:04
Very new.
00:25:06
Very new, that was really early on.
00:25:07
I still had to hold Dylan's hand while I watched the movies.
00:25:11
That's cute, actually.
00:25:12
Mm-hmm.
00:25:14
Yeah, I think just you know, I think if you don't think about this movie, it's fine.
00:25:20
But the more you think about it.
00:25:22
it's not...
00:25:23
it's not fine.
00:25:25
Okay.
00:25:26
The plot holes are really, they're bothering you a lot, huh?
00:25:29
Yeah.
00:25:30
I don't stand about I I forgot a I forgot a syllable.
00:25:33
That's why I don't understand about the audience versus critics Rating is that critics are supposed to think about movies.
00:25:41
That's literally their fucking job And they gave this a 95 in the audiences only gave it a 66 and their audiences aren't supposed to think about movies They're just supposed to go
00:25:48
and have a fun time.
00:25:49
Good.
00:25:49
Good fun time.
00:25:50
Happy fun time, you know
00:25:53
Yeah.
00:25:54
So that was weird for me.
00:25:55
don't know that I'm right, but for me, the more I think about it, the more I'm like...
00:26:02
Bye.
00:26:04
I can't speak for other critics.
00:26:06
I can only speak for myself.
00:26:08
Yeah, and we feel like we do a good job of like toeing the line between critic and audience.
00:26:13
We try not to be too presumptuous, pretentious.
00:26:17
Yeah, but I think that that's how it's always gonna be.
00:26:20
There's gonna be movies where I agree with the critics and I'm a little bit more pompous about it and there's gonna be movies where I'm agreeing more with the audience.
00:26:30
I think for this one, for me, I mean, not to give too much away, but I think when I look at all the other good things that the movie does, I'm a little bit more forgiving.
00:26:44
Also, I think it was years ago, but Quentin Tarantino did an interview where he talked about this movie and he was mad about the plot holes in it.
00:26:56
And I think that made me not care about them even more because I don't like Quentin Tarantino.
00:27:01
So when he pointed it out, I was like, fuck you.
00:27:04
I don't give a fuck about the plot holes.
00:27:10
Out of spite, I don't care about them anymore.
00:27:12
I just don't, I don't even know that I would call them plot holes even.
00:27:15
It's just inconsistencies, like continuity.
00:27:18
Like you're, you're.
00:27:21
he said something about it not committing to the premise that it sets for.
00:27:28
Which is my, that's my exact, that's my exact complaint is that the, the premise of something that will not stop just walking towards you, that's freaky.
00:27:42
And the, they've had 11, I'm gonna try to weave in fun facts because all we've talked about is our own shit, but they had 11 different actors portraying the entity.
00:27:53
All did a really good job at making it spooky.
00:27:57
Especially the tall one.
00:27:58
The tall...
00:28:00
So that was so like right when it comes up behind Yara.
00:28:05
Right, Yara?
00:28:06
Mm-hmm.
00:28:08
really freaked me out.
00:28:10
Had they stuck with that bit where...
00:28:16
You know, at the beginning when when Hugh is explaining like all of the rules or whatever and he's like don't ever go anywhere with just one exit.
00:28:24
Had they used that they didn't even use that?
00:28:27
Why wouldn't you have a shot of somebody going down an alleyway that ends up being a dead end and you just have to sit there and wait for them to die while this thing comes slowly
00:28:38
bumbling toward them?
00:28:39
You know what I mean?
00:28:40
What that I was looking so forward to that scene specifically.
00:28:44
I just felt like it could have been so much scarier.
00:28:47
We're giving away lot of our ratings already.
00:28:49
Sorry, we haven't even talked about fun facts.
00:28:50
But, they would have been so much scarier had they really leaned into this, like, world.
00:28:57
Yeah, so I hate to say I agree with Quentin Tarantino, but that's exactly my complaint about it.
00:29:02
Was that, it was so cool.
00:29:04
The first 10 minutes of this movie fucking slapped.
00:29:06
Yeah.
00:29:07
And I liked that you didn't see what happened to this girl.
00:29:12
just, you know what I mean?
00:29:14
She just is there and she's mutilated, absolutely fucking destroyed.
00:29:20
And that mystery of that, like, what the fuck?
00:29:22
Like, yeah, you don't want that to get anywhere near you.
00:29:24
And then all it does is pull your ponytail, like, ugh, ugh, ugh.
00:29:28
I mean, I think had her friends not stepped in, more would have happened to her, obviously, as we saw with Greg, but yeah.
00:29:37
I think the problem too, though, with like, no one's gonna go down an alleyway is that it's following Jay for the majority of this movie.
00:29:46
So they're not gonna kill her off.
00:29:48
Sure, but I mean she did give it to Greg and Greg died immediately.
00:29:54
The second the mom was in the bedroom, he was dead and she was just.
00:29:59
incest stuff.
00:30:01
I don't know that that was necessary.
00:30:03
It was creepy.
00:30:04
Yeah.
00:30:06
But you know what I mean?
00:30:07
So like, I don't know.
00:30:10
I don't know.
00:30:12
I hate myself for agreeing with him.
00:30:15
Yeah, it's not the best look I've ever seen you in, but that's okay.
00:30:20
Sorry.
00:30:21
I would have changed my opinion had I known that sooner, but I already wrote out all my thoughts.
00:30:25
I'm just regurgitating them too.
00:30:29
Hey, that's, that's what this is for.
00:30:31
Anyways, let's get more into fun facts.
00:30:36
Mike Lanier, he's the one that plays the very, very tall entity.
00:30:41
He's seven, seven, and he is a Detroit resident.
00:30:45
They filmed almost this entire movie in Michigan because of the tax breaks.
00:30:49
But he's just a resident there who designs engines for General Motors and he's one half of the world's tallest twins.
00:30:57
Yeah.
00:30:58
General Motors were bankrupt.
00:30:59
Well, this came out in 2014, so...
00:31:03
Well, that's cool.
00:31:04
Yeah, he was by far the best of, he was my favorite of them.
00:31:07
He creeped me out the most.
00:31:08
Him and the kid that comes through the door.
00:31:12
when it's there in the shed thing?
00:31:14
Yeah.
00:31:15
That freaked me out too.
00:31:17
Yeah, the tall guy coming behind her in the hallway is probably one of the most iconic scenes from this entire movie.
00:31:23
People talk about it a lot.
00:31:24
Yeah, that one really got me.
00:31:26
Yeah, that's a good one.
00:31:28
Mm-hmm.
00:31:29
this movie is nothing if not scary.
00:31:32
It was a little, it was pretty scary.
00:31:33
I'm just gonna give you all my ratings right now.
00:31:36
Fuck the fun facts.
00:31:40
But no, I mean, people do, there was an overwhelmingly positive first weekend for this movie, and they were gonna originally release it in VOD and theatrical release, but they
00:31:51
cancelled the VOD and had a theater only and it really paid off.
00:31:58
Like what they made like, what'd we say, like 23 times their budget or more like 20 times their budget.
00:32:03
Yeah.
00:32:04
Rotten Tomatoes ranked it as the sixth most praised film of 2015 because technically it's a 2014 movie because it screened at festivals and then it was released theatrically in
00:32:18
2015 to clarify.
00:32:22
Very true, very true.
00:32:23
think it originally premiered at Cannes.
00:32:26
We talked a little bit about the inspiration behind the film.
00:32:30
Halloween was obviously one of them.
00:32:33
Jay is short for Jamie, which is obviously a tribute to Jamie Lee Curtis, who has a sister named Kelly Curtis.
00:32:42
And in It Follows, Jamie's sister's name is Kelly.
00:32:46
That's cute.
00:32:48
Yes, also the girl in the opening scene is named Annie, which is one of Lori's friends in Halloween.
00:32:55
Her name's Annie.
00:32:56
So, little nods to John Carpenter's Halloween.
00:33:02
Which makes sense.
00:33:04
I think that was like one of the first, you know, villains walking, persons running, and they always catch up.
00:33:12
That type of villain trope, which I think this, I could see you having a nightmare about that after watching a movie like Halloween.
00:33:21
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
00:33:23
Or he also, think, George A.
00:33:25
Romero was also another one, which makes sense.
00:33:28
Zombies walk slowly, but they'll catch to you eventually, so.
00:33:33
Zombies have evolved though.
00:33:35
They be runnin' in modern, contemporary horror.
00:33:42
Yeah.
00:33:43
But then again, goes back to the age-old zombie versus infection.
00:33:49
Yeah.
00:33:51
Yeah, you're so right.
00:33:53
Yeah, it's a very touchy subject.
00:33:56
Yeah, how many tropes can we talk about that aren't actually in this movie?
00:34:00
running and walking is in this movie.
00:34:03
So...
00:34:07
True.
00:34:08
It's all...
00:34:10
It's all related somehow.
00:34:12
We'll do it.
00:34:13
We'll figure it out.
00:34:15
Yeah.
00:34:16
the entity will manifest itself sometimes as people that the characters know.
00:34:21
So the first time Jay sees it, it's as this woman who's walking towards her.
00:34:27
We find out later that that's actually Hugh, her date, or Jeff, as we find out his name actually is.
00:34:33
It's his mom.
00:34:35
So we find that out when she goes to his house.
00:34:37
So that's why it was manifesting as her because he could still see it too, because it's still kind of.
00:34:41
I think there's like a gray zone where it'll still show up to the person who previously had it.
00:34:49
And then at the beginning, when she's looking in the mirror, Jay has two photos on her mirror and one of them is with her father.
00:34:58
And when they're at the swimming pool, that's who the entity looks like is her dad.
00:35:02
And so when Kelly asks her what it looks like, she says, I don't want to tell you.
00:35:08
And that's why, because it's taking the form of their deceased father.
00:35:11
Sad.
00:35:13
Yeah, it'll getcha.
00:35:16
Mentally or physically.
00:35:18
We can talk about the score.
00:35:20
Go for it.
00:35:22
The entire score, which is written by DisasterPeace, was completed in less than three weeks.
00:35:29
Damn.
00:35:31
which shows.
00:35:34
you didn't like it?
00:35:36
I think it worked.
00:35:38
I think it worked for the film.
00:35:39
Yeah, I don't I don't know that I like like it as a standalone like I would never like listen to it.
00:35:45
I don't think it was anything like groundbreaking or interesting.
00:35:49
But it worked for the film.
00:35:51
I thought it was interesting.
00:35:53
Yeah.
00:35:55
but I wouldn't like pop it on.
00:35:57
Granted, I'm not you.
00:35:58
I don't, let's just listen to scores, so.
00:36:01
I wouldn't do that to a normal film, but.
00:36:05
which is a real shame you're really missing out.
00:36:08
I listen to soundtracks sometimes.
00:36:11
close.
00:36:12
Thank you, I'm getting there.
00:36:13
I've had the Sinners one on repeat since I saw it.
00:36:17
You won't go see it for some reason, so...
00:36:19
I will, I will eventually.
00:36:21
When have I had time?
00:36:23
I don't know your life.
00:36:25
Guess you do!
00:36:27
Yes I do.
00:36:32
Anyway.
00:36:32
I do know your life, but I need you to find some time.
00:36:36
I need you to.
00:36:38
Okay.
00:36:39
Anyway, the other thing about Disaster Peace, who I had actually not heard of, I didn't, yeah.
00:36:47
They are also the, they play the announcer in the high school.
00:36:52
Mm.
00:36:54
fun fun little cameo.
00:36:56
Danny Elfman did cameos for Sam Raimi too.
00:36:58
Tie that back to the news I gave you.
00:37:00
Wow, full circle!
00:37:02
Yeah, I forget what movie.
00:37:04
But yeah, he has done cameos.
00:37:07
The director, David Robert Mitchell, he's clarified a couple of things that people have asked questions about regarding how the entity works.
00:37:16
One, he said that it could board a plane and follow you if that was your way out.
00:37:21
So for everybody who said I'm just flying to a different country, it'll get there eventually.
00:37:27
It'll just take a while.
00:37:31
He also stated that condoms wouldn't work, condom resistant.
00:37:37
and also same gender sex.
00:37:39
So the entity's not a homophobe.
00:37:43
So, okay, good for him, it, good for it.
00:37:48
But like what, so what you're telling me is that it's not the intercourse necessarily.
00:37:55
It's the like emotional connection.
00:37:59
is how I'm interpreting that.
00:38:01
because of the condom thing?
00:38:03
Well, I don't know.
00:38:06
I think, I think there has to be some sort of like physical, tangible something happening.
00:38:12
So I guess I envisioned this as a like semen thing.
00:38:17
So lesbians would be safe.
00:38:21
Correct.
00:38:23
It's not a fluid.
00:38:26
Yeah.
00:38:27
think it's more
00:38:29
It's like an emotional thing.
00:38:30
It's an entity that's passed through sex, the physical act of sex, regardless of if it's with a condom or with the same gender.
00:38:41
very confusing.
00:38:43
It's...
00:38:43
said it and it makes perfect sense, but...
00:38:46
Because it's a movie about a sex demon following you.
00:38:50
So I don't think it has to work like semen does.
00:38:54
But it's not about a sex demon, it's about a regular demon.
00:38:57
It's about a demon.
00:39:00
And you get the demon by having sex.
00:39:03
Yeah, that's how it passes.
00:39:07
So would oral work too?
00:39:08
Oral sex?
00:39:10
Non-penetrative sex?
00:39:12
What kinds of sex?
00:39:15
That's why I'm saying.
00:39:16
It's, it's, it's, that's why I'm saying.
00:39:20
It's probably the relationship.
00:39:23
It's, I don't know what I'm trying to say.
00:39:25
Yeah.
00:39:27
It's just a lot.
00:39:28
It's a lot to- there's a lot of thinking to do.
00:39:31
There's a lot of- there's a lot of unanswered questions.
00:39:34
feel like there's not that much thinking to do.
00:39:37
You're doing too much of it.
00:39:39
And that's why you're in the position that you're in right now.
00:39:42
you're doing too much thinking.
00:39:44
You gotta chill out with the thinking and then it's fine.
00:39:49
That's, that's okay.
00:39:51
Yep.
00:39:52
This is Maika Monroe's first horror movie.
00:39:54
Yeah.
00:39:56
We've done, we've done Long Legs.
00:39:59
That's her most recent one too, because that was just last year.
00:40:03
Mm-hmm.
00:40:04
and she said she would love to do a sequel.
00:40:07
which they are doing.
00:40:09
I didn't know that.
00:40:10
I want to say we talked about it at one point, but it was probably before you knew what It Follows was.
00:40:15
So, but yes, they follow is in the works.
00:40:19
I believe they're starting filming this year.
00:40:21
So, and she's already signed on and David Robert Mitchell is coming back as the writer and director as well.
00:40:26
So I think they took some time because they didn't want to do it unless they had a good idea for it is what I remember them saying at some point.
00:40:34
So.
00:40:35
Sounds like they've got an idea and they want to explore it.
00:40:38
Good.
00:40:40
Maybe they'll explore the condom issue.
00:40:43
I doubt it.
00:40:44
I don't think they see that as an issue.
00:40:47
See, I just feel like if you have to ask those questions, if he was asked, somebody asked him, if I wear a condom in my safe, and he had to then say, no.
00:41:02
That's, I'm not the only one doing the thinking, clearly.
00:41:07
No, I think it probably stemmed from the same conversation as the plane thing where people are like, I'd be safe because I'd wear a condom or I'd be safe because I'm a lesbian or
00:41:18
I'd be safe because I'd fly to Germany.
00:41:20
You know what I mean?
00:41:21
And he was probably like, that wouldn't work.
00:41:23
Like it would get there eventually or condoms don't matter because it's an entity or it doesn't matter.
00:41:29
It's the act of sex, not who it's with, you know.
00:41:32
Yeah.
00:41:33
Maybe it's the orgasm.
00:41:35
Maybe that's what it's from.
00:41:36
maybe that's the...
00:41:39
There's no way it would pass that often.
00:41:42
With men involved?
00:41:43
Come on.
00:41:45
That would be an entity that only affects women.
00:41:49
It would be a lesbian only entity.
00:41:52
No, but no, the men are doing the orgasming.
00:41:56
They're orgasming.
00:41:58
So they're passing it off.
00:42:00
a gay sex.
00:42:01
Oh, so the person who has it has to orgasm to give it to the other person?
00:42:06
Oh, then women are fucked.
00:42:08
Yeah.
00:42:08
How did they get rid of it?
00:42:09
What if you just, man, uh, masturbation, we got to bring that into the conversation.
00:42:13
Okay.
00:42:14
David Robert Mitchell, if you're listening to this, please respond.
00:42:17
Could I masturbate the demon out of me?
00:42:20
I don't think so because we see in Hugh's house that he has dirty magazines so I think he has been doing that.
00:42:27
He's been trying to exorcise that d**k but it's not working.
00:42:33
Got that bicep action going.
00:42:34
Yup.
00:42:37
One other thing that he's addressed, people have brought up the pool scene and said it seems very like a silly climax for that.
00:42:45
But he said that's kind of the point, like they're kids, like of course they're gonna come up with a stupid plan that's not gonna work.
00:42:52
So he said he kind of wanted it to feel a little bit Scooby-Doo gang, like, oh, how can we solve this demon issue?
00:43:00
So that was his response to people being like, that's not a very sophisticated plan.
00:43:05
He's like, well, they're kids, so.
00:43:07
Yeah.
00:43:09
Yeah, that did that part didn't bother me the like idea of them throwing stuff.
00:43:12
What bothered me was that the acting was so flat in that scene.
00:43:16
Okay
00:43:17
It just felt very like monotone and not emotional, not as charged as it needed to be because electricity.
00:43:29
But also, like, actually, it just didn't.
00:43:33
I was bothered by it.
00:43:34
A lot of things bothered me about this movie, if you couldn't tell, but.
00:43:37
I can.
00:43:39
Do you have any other fun facts?
00:43:41
No.
00:43:43
Should we rate it?
00:43:44
Okay.
00:43:47
I don't like where this is going.
00:43:50
How scary did you think it was?
00:43:52
I gave it a 1.5.
00:43:56
Okay.
00:43:57
because I do remember the first time I watched this.
00:43:59
And it was a little freaky.
00:44:01
The guy coming through the hallway, there was a few little jump scare moments and creepy suspenseful moments that I remember.
00:44:09
putting me on edge.
00:44:12
What about you?
00:44:13
I also gave it a 1.5.
00:44:15
It had a lot of potential to be scary and it started off really strong and then it just got like less and less scary.
00:44:22
It could have easily been as like freaky and uncanny as us is what I was thinking of during the first like 15 minutes of the movie.
00:44:29
I was thinking of us.
00:44:30
ah But just didn't like quite get there.
00:44:34
So I gave it a 1.5 for the effort and then that that one scene of coming through behind Yara was
00:44:40
really freaky.
00:44:42
for sure.
00:44:43
How sexy did you think it was?
00:44:46
I mean, there's nothing less sexy than an STD, I think.
00:44:52
So I gave it a 0.5.
00:44:53
Yeah.
00:44:55
How about you?
00:44:56
Yeah, I also gave it a .5.
00:44:57
I think it's some of the least sexy sex scenes and nudity I've ever seen in a movie.
00:45:06
Yeah.
00:45:08
Which, yeah, and every scene in which there is intercourse, there's no nudity.
00:45:17
Which is interesting.
00:45:18
There's a fun fact.
00:45:21
Yeah.
00:45:22
Which I like, but like it's not the point, you know?
00:45:25
Yeah, no, not at all.
00:45:27
Because again, the sex?
00:45:28
Not sexy.
00:45:29
No, None of it was.
00:45:31
Nothing, nothing about it.
00:45:33
It just wasn't sexy.
00:45:35
Yeah.
00:45:37
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:45:39
I give it a one and that entire half a point is just for Greg's death.
00:45:44
That was a little much.
00:45:48
That was fucked up.
00:45:50
Yeah, what did you give it?
00:45:52
I gave it a 1.5.
00:45:55
The first 10 minutes, crazy.
00:45:57
We were cooking.
00:45:59
The way that the entity leaves that body, crazy.
00:46:02
And then it just gets less fun and less fucked until the scene with Greg.
00:46:07
And it's like, pooh.
00:46:08
And then it's over again.
00:46:10
So 1.5.
00:46:11
All right.
00:46:13
Overall.
00:46:14
What did you think of It Follows?
00:46:17
Yeah, this had a lot of potential.
00:46:20
I think the concept that was laid out in the first 10 or 15 minutes was so fucking good.
00:46:27
I would have totally forgiven the fact that it's a direct allegory for, you know, STDs or informed consent.
00:46:34
would have totally like whatever.
00:46:36
I would have thought far less about that.
00:46:40
Had we stuck to the same universe throughout the movie that we established in those first few minutes.
00:46:45
But we lost that.
00:46:47
We gave the entity too much power.
00:46:48
Like, why is it like, why did it have to throw things?
00:46:50
Why did it pull her hair?
00:46:53
Why did it start standing still?
00:46:54
It just didn't follow any of the rules.
00:46:57
And I really wanted that scene of like, oh my God, I don't have an exit and I just have to sit here and be killed.
00:47:04
And then we get another one of those cuts where it's like black screen and you and then it's like the next morning and the person's like in a weird position.
00:47:10
That would have been so fucking cool.
00:47:12
I was waiting for it.
00:47:13
So anyway, it just like, lost its spark.
00:47:15
I ended up only giving it a two.
00:47:18
Damn.
00:47:19
Yeah.
00:47:20
And I think I gave it a two because one, I do think there was a lot of attention to detail to the nightmare aspect of it.
00:47:31
That was interesting to me.
00:47:33
And then two, I would see a sequel.
00:47:36
I do want to see the sequel because the concept is good.
00:47:39
They just didn't stick to the concept that I was so interested in.
00:47:43
All right.
00:47:44
What did you give it?
00:47:46
I give it a four out of five.
00:47:48
This is one of my favorite horror movies.
00:47:50
I love this movie so much.
00:47:52
I think it's so beautifully done.
00:47:55
The cinematography is perfectly framed.
00:47:58
It's so like unnerving the way that he shoots the movie.
00:48:03
I think it really adds to the atmosphere.
00:48:05
I think at the time that it came out, it was a very original idea.
00:48:09
I love the fact that it feels like you're in a nightmare.
00:48:14
And to that effect, I don't really care at all about the minor little plot things that don't add up.
00:48:20
I think, like, when it fucks with our hair, I'm like, yeah, because it's a cool shot.
00:48:24
So it doesn't bother me at all.
00:48:25
I love this movie.
00:48:26
I think it's fantastic.
00:48:28
And I love the meaning I've put behind it because I don't necessarily think Mitchell had that same idea when he made it, but I do think if you look at it through that lens of
00:48:39
sexual assault and informed consent, it is a very interesting film.
00:48:44
And yeah, I love it.
00:48:47
Four out of five.
00:48:48
Okay, crazy to give a four out of five.
00:48:53
You said four out of five and it's also one of your favorite movies.
00:48:56
Yeah.
00:48:58
I think anything four and above is like my favorites.
00:49:02
Okay.
00:49:03
Like, this is a movie I recommend to people all the time.
00:49:06
Okay.
00:49:08
You like this over smile and smile too?
00:49:10
Okay.
00:49:12
I think this is a better film.
00:49:14
Interesting.
00:49:16
Yeah, I said that during our episode.
00:49:19
I didn't say it at the beginning when I referenced that, but when I said, oh, this concept's been done before, but better.
00:49:26
That's what I said in our episode.
00:49:29
Yeah.
00:49:31
Well, damn.
00:49:33
Damn.
00:49:35
No, of course not.
00:49:38
well, I feel badly that I don't like it, but it just...
00:49:41
I latched so hard onto that first concept that I just...
00:49:46
it made me mad.
00:49:47
that...
00:49:48
kept going throughout the whole movie.
00:49:52
Anyways, give me two years, I'll make you rewatch it and you'll like it.
00:49:56
it again and then I'll change my tune.
00:49:59
Alright, would you survive?
00:50:02
I think I think I'm doing whatever I can to consensually sort of give this away.
00:50:07
And then I'm just kind of washing my hands of it.
00:50:10
I'm putting more emphasis on, hey, I'm going to give this to you.
00:50:13
And it's really important that you also give it to the next person.
00:50:17
You know what I mean?
00:50:18
Putting more emphasis on that.
00:50:20
there could probably be some like really mean comments to be made about whether or not I could give it away.
00:50:25
But assuming that I can, I'm just getting rid of it somewhere very far away from me.
00:50:30
And then
00:50:31
You're a girl.
00:50:32
Yeah, I don't think it would be that hard.
00:50:34
There's.
00:50:36
Yeah.
00:50:37
It won't be hard for you, you're a girl.
00:50:39
Yeah.
00:50:39
Yeah, anyway, and then there's just so many like plot holes, not plot holes necessarily, like inconsistencies in how it acts.
00:50:49
I don't know if I could formulate a solid answer for like, what if you can't give it away?
00:50:54
So I'm just sticking with I can.
00:50:55
fair to say that you can give it away.
00:50:58
The problem then becomes if it kills the person you give it to, it comes back for you.
00:51:02
It comes back down the line.
00:51:04
So you have to make sure it continues for enough to make you safe.
00:51:08
Yeah, which is again why the emphasis is you have to give this to somebody else.
00:51:15
Yeah, but do they believe you?
00:51:16
Does the person they give it to believe them?
00:51:19
Do they give it away?
00:51:20
True.
00:51:21
uh It's a hard road to follow.
00:51:23
Yeah.
00:51:25
Okay, how about you?
00:51:27
Probably, but do I want to?
00:51:29
I feel like the anxiety that I would feel for the rest of my life, I'd always...
00:51:35
you'd be so paranoid.
00:51:37
So I think I live, probably through the events of this movie I live, and then like a year later I end it.
00:51:44
Because I don't think I could go much more than that with the constant fear and paranoia hanging over me.
00:51:50
Yeah, fair.
00:51:51
I was kind of hoping I was
00:51:54
not disappointed, but I was kind of hoping that they did more of a smile thing where they in the sequel, it's just different people dealing with the same curse.
00:52:04
as opposed to Maika Monroe comes back and she's somehow still, you know what mean?
00:52:10
like you want it to follow multiple people throughout the film.
00:52:14
Sure.
00:52:15
Well, no, I mean, in the sequel that they're making, I wouldn't think that Maika Monroe would come back.
00:52:21
I would think that they would move on to like another era, another generation.
00:52:27
You know what mean?
00:52:28
Got it.
00:52:28
I wanna say, I don't know if this is a fan theory or if something has been said about it.
00:52:36
I wanna say it's a fan theory, but I think the consensus is they think that it's gonna be her trying to track down the origins of it.
00:52:43
Like figure out how it started.
00:52:45
Sure.
00:52:47
Which would be...
00:52:48
interesting.
00:52:50
Yeah.
00:52:50
but I think that's a fan theory.
00:52:52
I don't think that that's been confirmed that that's what's gonna happen.
00:52:55
But it would make sense if she's passed it on and he's passed it on.
00:52:59
Although I think the ending shot kind of makes you wonder if it worked, because there's like someone following behind them.
00:53:06
But is that just a person or is that the entity?
00:53:08
We don't know.
00:53:09
Yeah.
00:53:10
Well, it would still be following them unless he had given it away, right?
00:53:15
Oh.
00:53:16
Paul goes, he's like perusing a prostitute district when he's in the car after they have sex.
00:53:24
Oh, that wasn't clear that he actually stopped and gave it to a prostitute.
00:53:28
I thought he was just passing by them.
00:53:31
No, that was supposed to imply that he was gonna give it to a prostitute.
00:53:35
Yeah.
00:53:36
Yikes.
00:53:37
Yeah.
00:53:39
I see I was under the impression that he would be like, okay, well, I can't just there's the informed consent debacle again.
00:53:47
Yeah, true.
00:53:48
I guess it's implied but not confirmed.
00:53:51
Maybe he didn't.
00:53:53
Maybe he couldn't go through with it.
00:53:56
But I think he did.
00:53:59
And that day that they're walking on the street holding hands is the day the prostitute died.
00:54:03
Maybe if she didn't...
00:54:06
I think the idea was that if you give it to a prostitute, she's more than likely gonna pass it on before it gets to her.
00:54:12
That's true, yeah.
00:54:15
You would hope.
00:54:16
Yeah, you would hope, but who's to say?
00:54:21
Not me.
00:54:22
Only David Robert Mitchell.
00:54:24
Mm-hmm.
00:54:25
Sounds like he's willing to answer too if you ever have the chance to ask.
00:54:28
Yeah.
00:54:28
That's true.
00:54:30
Hit him up.
00:54:32
Okay, well, yeah, I've been waiting for this moment because I came up with the best idea for a movie called Totally Killer.
00:54:39
Great, tell me what Totally Killer is about.
00:54:41
Okay, I know now that this is not right because Totally Killer is definitely a shark movie.
00:54:48
And we're doing a shark movie later, like literally in two weeks.
00:54:52
Yeah, it's not a shark movie, but give me your shark movie idea, please.
00:54:57
Killer is a 90s horror movie featuring sharks.
00:55:01
It's about an up and coming female surfer.
00:55:04
She's like taking over the the women's surf circuit.
00:55:08
And while in the middle of a competition, she rams into a boat.
00:55:13
Like where the fuck did that boat come from?
00:55:15
The boat sinks because her surfboard makes a hole in it.
00:55:19
It's like a smaller boat.
00:55:20
The boat sinks.
00:55:21
And her surfboard gets stuck in the boat.
00:55:25
So it drags her down with it because surfers are attached to their surfboards.
00:55:30
And the impact in which she hits the boat knocks her out.
00:55:35
So she gets taken all the way down to the ocean floor with the boat before she finally wakes up.
00:55:41
And then she's like, fuck, I can't get to the surface.
00:55:44
Maybe I can go inside the boat.
00:55:47
So she quickly takes off her little ankle thing.
00:55:50
Mm-hmm.
00:55:51
into the boat where her surfboard has made a hole and while she does that she bleeds.
00:55:57
And the blood sharks.
00:55:59
So she's like in this air bubble and it's a small air bubble because it's a small boat in the cabin of the boat.
00:56:06
So she has to get out of there as soon as she can but there's shark infestation.
00:56:10
So she has to figure out a way to kill the shark and make it to the surface or beat the shark to the surface before she runs out of oxygen in the boat.
00:56:18
And then when she gets to the surface, she tells her friends what happened and they say, that's totally killer.
00:56:25
Wow.
00:56:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:29
Incredible.
00:56:30
What a fun film.
00:56:31
Thank you.
00:56:32
It's like one of those single single location because it's in the boat.
00:56:38
Right, yeah.
00:56:39
That's fun.
00:56:41
Yeah, I'm sad that it's not that, I'm sorry.
00:56:44
Yeah.
00:56:45
It's gotta be 90s though.
00:56:48
set in the 90s perhaps?
00:56:50
No?
00:56:52
Is it a comedy?
00:56:52
Okay, that makes me feel better.
00:56:56
a comedy.
00:56:58
Cool, well, I think that's good idea for a movie.
00:57:02
I think, yeah, it's great.
00:57:03
I'd watch it for sure.
00:57:05
Well.
00:57:06
I don't really like movies where the shark's the bad guy.
00:57:10
The shark's not the bad guy.
00:57:12
The bad guy is she's gonna run out of oxygen.
00:57:14
drums up fear around sharks makes me a little hesitant because they've been through enough.
00:57:19
They don't need anymore.
00:57:21
But we'll get to that when we talk about Jaws.
00:57:24
Yeah, that'll be a whole thing.
00:57:27
Yeah, I'll go on a rant, I promise.
00:57:29
That's like the one time I've ever gotten to a fight with somebody on TikTok is I...
00:57:34
She posted a picture of her petting a shark in like, like, you know, an aquarium where they let you like a touch tank or whatever with the Jaws soundtrack and she's like all
00:57:45
freaked out.
00:57:47
I let her fucking have it.
00:57:48
in a controlled environment?
00:57:51
with a baby like zebra shark?
00:57:55
Oh.
00:57:56
Yeah, the shark fear has to stop.
00:57:59
Enough.
00:58:00
it's it's killing sharks.
00:58:03
There aren't gonna be any left.
00:58:05
Yeah.
00:58:07
After Totally Killer, we got we're going to talk about Totally Killer and then we'll talk about Jaws.
00:58:13
Yeah, stick with us for at least two more episodes.
00:58:16
Do more of those or skip next week.
00:58:18
Who am I to judge?
00:58:19
Well, ideally, you would watch both.
00:58:22
Yeah, please listen to both.
00:58:27
We'd appreciate it.
00:58:28
you know.
00:58:31
All right, cool.
00:58:32
that's It Follows.
00:58:35
Mm-hmm.
00:58:36
That's our biggest disparity.
00:58:38
Happy birthday, Cassidy.
00:58:39
Sorry your birthday party sucks.
00:58:41
Like, I'm sorry you hated it, but anyways.
00:58:47
I'm sorry I hated it.
00:58:48
I didn't hate it.
00:58:50
I didn't get a one.
00:58:52
well.
00:58:53
And I said I would watch a sequel.
00:58:55
Anyways, everybody in the comments after you say happy birthday, tell me why I'm right and kd's wrong and tell me your favorite thing about the movie It Follows and let me know your
00:59:12
favorite shark fact.
00:59:14
Yeah, and we'll read your favorite shark facts out loud in our episode on Jaws, celebrating the 50th anniversary.
00:59:22
Don't say that.
00:59:22
Nobody ever comments what we tell them to comment.
00:59:25
We're not going to have any comments to read,
00:59:27
I'm just, well, if there are any, we're gonna read them, okay?
00:59:31
That's true.
00:59:32
If you want your comment to be read, be the first ever person to comment on the words.
00:59:38
the first ever.
00:59:40
That's true, that's true.
00:59:42
All right, thank you for listening.
00:59:45
Please feel free to like and subscribe.
00:59:47
We'll see you next week for Totally Killer.
00:59:49
Bye!
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Bye!
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