Kd (
00:25)
Hello! β
Cassidy (
00:27)
Hi.
Kd (
00:29)
Happy Tuesday.
Cassidy (
00:30)
Happy Tuesday, welcome back to the Killer Cuties podcast.
Kd (
00:35)
Yep. We are going to talk about your next.
Cassidy (
00:40)
You are next.
Kd (
00:41)
you apostrophe re we had to clarify that in last week's episode i had to clarify that i mean it could have gone either way
Cassidy (
00:43)
Yeah.
You had to clarify that. Yeah.
True.
Kd (
00:54)
But first we've got some news, as we usually do.
Cassidy (
00:58)
We do, we do. I'll go first.
Kd (
01:01)
That's a good idea because we didn't plan that ahead of time.
Cassidy (
01:04)
Yeah, I real quick in my head realized I needed to go first, so.
Kd (
01:08)
Sure.
Cassidy (
01:10)
Alright, after nearly three decades, Warner Brothers has officially announced that Practical Magic 2 is happening.
Kd (
01:17)
Wow. β
Cassidy (
01:18)
Yes, we've already got a release date as well. September 18th, 2026. So a little over a year. Yeah. Both Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman will be reprising their iconic roles. So that's exciting. And β Akiva Goldsman, did, he co-wrote the original, is also coming back to write the sequel. So it seems like they're trying to get a lot of the original folks on board to keep the β vibe the same.
Kd (
01:25)
Not in that far. Yeah.
you
Cassidy (
01:48)
And producer Denise De Novi has also said that this sequel aims to honor the themes of the original that resonated so much with women, so that's exciting. But yeah, very fun news for anybody who's a fan of the original. β
Kd (
02:01)
That is fun.
I love Sandra Bullock.
Cassidy (
02:06)
Yeah, also bring back Nicole Kidman's fantastic wig that she wears in that movie. Hair goals. β okay, you can Google her hair from that movie. It'll pop up. It's beautiful, stunning.
Kd (
02:11)
Yeah, see, I've never seen the movie. I just know the vibes of the movie.
Okay.
Okay. When I was just a young gay
Cassidy (
02:23)
Mm-hmm.
Kd (
02:24)
I asked an elder gay if I could choose my gay icon. And they were like, yeah. And I was like, I choose Sandra Bullock. Weird choice in hindsight, but.
Cassidy (
02:37)
Yeah,
like an icon who's gay or like a yore? Because she's not. She's not.
Kd (
02:42)
She's not.
But like, is Lady Gaga?
Cassidy (
02:48)
Yes, she's bisexual. Yeah, so.
Kd (
02:49)
okay.
See, that would have made more sense. I was just trying to think of a very fierce ally that is straight and Lady Gaga came to mind.
Cassidy (
02:54)
Yeah, yeah. β
nope, she's part of the community, but close, you know? Yeah.
Kd (
03:10)
Close, yeah.
Anyway, I was like 18, so I just remember that. then in hindsight, realizing that that was a stupid choice. Not to say that Sandra Bullock isn't great. She's great. Gay icon? Probably not.
Cassidy (
03:25)
You're right. Yeah.
Not really.
Kd (
03:33)
Oh, brother. OK, we don't get a lot of unrated films, and when we do, they generally don't do very well at the box office. Last year's Terrifier 3 became the highest grossing unrated film of all time. It made about 50 million at the box office. Now we have a potential contender for that highest grossing spot because the Toxic Avenger 2025 comes out in August and it officially has been rated unrated.
It's not rated. They're not rating it. They're not giving it a rating. It's been it's unrated. Yes. Anyway, I haven't seen the others, but they're supposedly shock or like terrifying. That's the vibe, I guess. β And this one reportedly has excessive gore, nudity and piss play as the reasons why they're leaving it unrated.
Cassidy (
04:04)
Got it. Yeah.
you
Kd (
04:30)
β Anyway, it stars Peter Dinklage, which I have thoughts about, but I'll keep those to myself. β And it comes out in August.
Cassidy (
04:31)
Okay. β
Okay.
sure if that movie is going to be for me.
Kd (
04:46)
So who's to say?
Cassidy (
04:48)
Me. I haven't, no.
Kd (
04:49)
Have you seen the other ones?
See, I thought this was like a Marvel Cinematic Universe entry. So when I learned it was unrated, I was shocked.
Cassidy (
04:58)
No.
Yeah, no, it's like a horror comedy. Yeah.
Kd (
05:07)
Yeah.
Cassidy (
05:09)
We'll find out.
Kd (
05:10)
Maybe, I mean, I bet I'd like it better than Terrifier.
Cassidy (
05:13)
can't imagine you liking anything worse, so.
Kd (
05:17)
Yeah.
What's next from you?
Cassidy (
05:23)
Next for me is we have a new trailer that's out. So the upcoming movie starring Dave Franco and Alison Brie, married couple IRL, playing a couple in I not L. β It's named together, the film.
Kd (
05:38)
Yeah.
Okay.
Cassidy (
05:44)
We have the first trailer we're gonna link it in the description so you can watch it I haven't yet, but it's on my to-do list calm down. It's releasing in theaters this July and the summary is Years into their relationship Tim and Millie find themselves at a crossroads as they move to the country Abandoning all that is familiar in their lives except each other with tensions already flaring a nightmarish encounter with mysterious Unnatural force threatens to corrupt their lives their love and their flesh the poster is like two eyes like
bulging and they're so close to touching and it kind of makes me itchy. So yeah, I kind of want to see it.
Kd (
06:18)
Ew.
I don't like that at all. Dylan would hate that.
Cassidy (
06:22)
Yeah, I didn't either. But like, you know,
yeah, no, that's it's not for him based on the poster alone. But I'm excited to watch the trailer because
Kd (
06:29)
Yeah.
Cassidy (
06:33)
I mean it's like the Franco brother who doesn't suck yet, And Alison Bray. Yeah, TBD, we don't know.
Kd (
06:40)
TBD.
Yeah, I how it's debris.
She's great.
Cassidy (
06:46)
Yeah, I loved community, so.
Kd (
06:49)
Okay, well last one for me. This is sort of a spoiler. Well, actually, I don't think we would know if it was a spoiler until after we've seen the movie. it's a spoiler for purists, but also sort of not. It's to do with Final Destination Bloodlines. So if you don't want to hear it, skip forward a minute or two.
That's crazy. She took her headphones off. I think you can hear it. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Okay. And if it is, I'm sorry. While filming Final Destination's bloodlines, 71 year old stunt performer, Yvette Ferguson, who also worked on Midnight Mass, came out of retirement to work on the Final Destination movie, and she set the world record for the oldest person to ever be set on fire.
Cassidy (
07:09)
Just kidding.
Okay, go for it.
hell yeah. That's pretty cool.
Kd (
07:37)
Yeah, she's the
yeah, she's the oldest person ever on fire on camera according to co-directors Zach Lipovsky and Adam Stein
Cassidy (
07:46)
That's fun. Come out of retirement just to set a record. I like it.
Kd (
07:47)
Isn't that cute?
Yeah, super fun. And what a cool record.
Cassidy (
07:55)
Yeah.
Kd (
07:56)
Yeah, love that for her. Yeah, I don't know who she plays in the movie. Maybe she doesn't play anybody. Maybe she's just like an extra that is lit on fire. I don't know. β But hopefully that's not too big of a spoiler. Well, yeah, she would be like, yeah. I mean, just maybe like the character that she's portraying isn't like huge. It's just like a side character. So it's not like spoiling anything.
Cassidy (
07:57)
Big fan!
Or maybe she's a stand-in for someone who gets lit on fire? Yeah.
Got it.
Just in the background an old woman's on fire.
Kd (
08:19)
I
mean, weirder things have happened in final destination movies, I'm sure.
Cassidy (
08:23)
That's actually, yeah, that's true.
All right, should we get into it? Okay. Today we are talking about your next 2011 slasher film. A little summary. Davisons, an upper class family, are extremely wealthy, but also estranged. In an attempt to mend their broken ties, the parents decide to celebrate their wedding anniversary by inviting their four children and their significant others.
Kd (
08:30)
I think so.
Cassidy (
08:52)
to their weekend estate. The celebration gets off to a rocky start, but when crossbow-wielding assailants and animal masks suddenly attack, the Davisons must pull together or die. Spoiler alert, they do not pull together. Not even a little bit. It is directed by Adam Wingard. It's written by Simon Barrett, and it stars Charney Vinson, Nicholas Tucci, no relation, I know people are gonna ask, Wendy Glenn, and A.J. Bowen.
Kd (
09:07)
Not even close.
Cassidy (
09:20)
It had a budget of about $1 million and made $26.9 million at the box office and that was with like a pretty limited release as well. It currently has a 6.6 out of 10 on IMDb, a 60 % audience score and an 80 % critic score on Rotten Tomatoes.
Kd (
09:37)
Nice. You said 2011. Maybe this is a good place to start with our fun facts.
Cassidy (
09:38)
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe it isn't.
Kd (
09:46)
or not.
you
Cassidy (
09:50)
Maybe it's a terrible place to start.
Kd (
09:52)
And
apparently, oh, OK, here we go. OK. It premiered as part of Midnight Madness at the 2011 Toronto Film Festival, and it was picked up by Lionsgate there. But it was not given a wide release until August 2013. So some outlets reported as being released in 2011, some outlets reported as being released in 2013. The director said give a couple of interviews about like there was some concern with it.
Cassidy (
10:00)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Fair.
Kd (
10:22)
not being released until three, two and a half years after they had filmed because they were worried it wasn't going to feel like fresh and new anymore. But yeah, I did have sort of like a weird, atypical release calendar.
Cassidy (
10:29)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah,
absolutely. And I think because of that, that's why it's more of a cult following for people who like this movie. I feel like at this point, in the horror community, it does have a pretty big following, but you could ask people who aren't into horror movies and they probably haven't heard of it. Yeah.
Kd (
11:04)
Yeah, I hadn't heard of it.
They didn't have a lot of like. You can tell the the movies that are really big or people are really interested in them by how many facts they have about them generally. And this one didn't have a whole lot of like there weren't a lot of interview. They didn't do a lot of interviews. There wasn't a lot of like context posted anywhere. It was just. Whereas, you know.
Cassidy (
11:18)
haha
Kd (
11:30)
Texas Chainsaw Massacre has 900 pages of facts, gazillion articles.
Cassidy (
11:36)
Yeah, for sure. And I think movies that are a bit more culturally significant are definitely going to have so much more. Like historical movies like Psycho or Texas Shains are, Halloween, there's so much about those. Whereas these days, a movie takes two years to get in theaters, it kind of wanes, right? So a lot of those interviews happen two years later and there's not that much to talk about at that point. A lot of those people are already on new projects.
Kd (
11:42)
Of course.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But we've still got some fun facts.
Cassidy (
12:09)
Absolutely. Did you... probably not recognize, but did you see who played Tariq, the sister's boyfriend?
Kd (
12:20)
Yeah,
Thai West!
Cassidy (
12:22)
It is Thai West, a la ex-fame.
Kd (
12:26)
Pearl fame.
Cassidy (
12:28)
We'll exit the franchise, yeah.
Kd (
12:30)
Yeah. Just, well, you know, just to be clear. There's more than one X movie.
Cassidy (
12:33)
Yeah.
Yes, fair. Yes. Ex Pearl Maxine most recently.
Kd (
12:42)
I mean, there's more than one movie called X.
Cassidy (
12:46)
β got it, yeah.
Kd (
12:48)
I actually might be thinking of triple X.
Cassidy (
12:49)
I think you are.
Kd (
12:52)
Well, either way, he also directed Pearl.
Cassidy (
12:56)
Yes, he did.
Thank you for clarifying.
Kd (
13:01)
Ha ha ha!
Cassidy (
13:03)
He also directed a segment in VHS, which we talked about a long time ago. I don't know if you remember that. But so did Adam Wingard and Simon Barrett. They both were on VHS. Yes. So together they did the frame story. If you remember that, probably not, but it's like the robbers who break into the house. They're like there to steal stuff, but then they find the tapes and that's what kind of starts the whole movie.
Kd (
13:07)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Wow.
and they say bad words. They say slurs. I do remember that. Yeah.
Cassidy (
13:32)
They do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're terrible people. Yeah.
And then Joe Swanberg, who actually is in this movie, not he didn't he didn't write a direct, but he acts in it. He plays Drake, like the oldest brother. I want to say he's the one with the arrow in his back the whole time, right? Yes. So he
Kd (
13:52)
Yes. Yes, I think so.
Cassidy (
13:58)
And Simon Barrett did the segment, The Sick Thing That Happened to Emily when she was younger. Which I don't know if you remember that one, but it's about the guy's talking to his girlfriend online and she's seeing ghosts, she thinks, but then you find out it's aliens and the boyfriend's in on it.
Kd (
14:18)
Nope, doesn't ring a bell.
Cassidy (
14:18)
Okay.
Kd (
14:21)
That sounds like it could be fun.
Cassidy (
14:23)
Yeah,
it's in VHS if you ever want to give it a rewatch. We'll have a marathon because Wingard and Barrett also did a segment in VHS too. So I'm wondering if, you know, seems like they're all friends and do projects together.
Kd (
14:27)
I should watch that one again. Sounds great.
I like found footage.
cute.
Cassidy (
14:46)
Mm-hmm.
Kd (
14:47)
Simon Barrett, the...
Cassidy (
14:50)
writer.
Kd (
14:51)
screenplay writer. Yes. Yes. β Was working as a private investigator when he wrote the script for this. And then he's also the Tiger Mask killer.
Cassidy (
14:59)
Yeah.
He is. He's the first one to die.
Kd (
15:07)
Oh yeah, well of the mask. Yeah, I was gonna say yeah.
Cassidy (
15:08)
Well, of the the mask killers. Ty West is the first one to no, no, he's
not because the opening scene, the neighbors, they're the first people to die.
Kd (
15:15)
The first of the family,
okay, so Ty West is the first of the family to die. Simon Barrett is the first of the killers to die, but they're not the first people to die.
Cassidy (
15:23)
But they're
not the first people to die. Yeah, exactly. Keep up. Yeah, the neighbor. She's the first person to die. Yes.
Kd (
15:26)
the woman at the very beginning. Yeah. Which, by the way...
Was it the neighbor and the girl at the beginning of the movie and the guy?
Okay. Was it two separate households at the beginning or was that the same household? Okay, because the man that I saw on the bed with the sex was a different man than the man that came out of the shower.
Cassidy (
15:47)
That was the same household.
Yeah. Yeah.
To be clear, it wasn't. You might have thought that, but it is the same man. Just to clear things up for the listeners. It's not a different man. I'm sorry you felt that way. Yeah.
Kd (
16:05)
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, I really did. I was like,
where the fuck did this guy come from?
Cassidy (
16:16)
Yeah. That wasn't even supposed to be the opening scene either. β I'm going to talk about it. The opening scene originally in the script was an old man finding his dog decapitated before he's then killed. And the producers were like, can we rewrite that?
Kd (
16:20)
Yeah, I don't want to talk.
Cassidy (
16:35)
And now kd's happy because it was a woman who died instead of a dog. Would you like to speak on that, kd?
Kd (
16:39)
Yeah. I mean,
the man died too, so. The dog lived, the man died, the woman died. That's two versus one.
Cassidy (
16:43)
He was gonna die either way.
The man's at net zero because he was gonna die either way. So...
Kd (
16:52)
haha
Well, I guess.
Speaking of earlier versions of the script, Erin was supposed to be an American.
Cassidy (
17:05)
Mm-hmm.
Kd (
17:07)
I know why that fact's interesting, but it's a fact. So we'll add it to the list of facts. I'm so glad she wasn't. Who wants to be an American these days? Well, in 2011, it was different.
Cassidy (
17:10)
Great. We're gonna say it. Yeah. So there.
Love you!
Yeah, there was hope back then. I remember I was just graduating. I thought I was going to finish college. What a joke.
Kd (
17:24)
Yeah, literally. That's what all the posters said.
Hahaha
Did you know there was supposed to be a sequel for this movie?
Cassidy (
17:37)
Yeah, I remember hearing that there were talks of it.
Kd (
17:41)
In early interviews about the movie, they said, β yeah, pay attention to the end because we're dropping teasers for the sequel. And it's been 15 years and there's still no sequel, but they did an interview pretty recently, like like this year, I think this year or early last year.
Cassidy (
17:53)
Yeah.
Kd (
18:00)
That said, we're so glad we didn't make that sequel, because it would have been terrible.
Cassidy (
18:03)
Yeah. I mean...
It's just sometimes the universe works in your favor. And they say, no, leave it be.
Kd (
18:13)
Yeah. Should we tell them about it?
Cassidy (
18:15)
β I don't know what it was supposed to be. great. I'd love to hear about it.
Kd (
18:18)
I know all about it. Yeah,
the the director and the screenwriter. Didn't interview and basically spilled the beans on what the entire sequel was supposed to be, so I'll walk you through it. So originally, the lamb mask killer. Got decapitated in the script, also, they wanted to do some decapitation, so I'll tell you what. He was decapitated with his hand pinned to his head. β
Cassidy (
18:38)
Yeah.
Mmm.
Kd (
18:46)
I don't know how this works, but supposedly he was going to live through that. In the sequel, he will he would have lived through that, but his frontal cortex would have been damaged by being stabbed with a nail in the forehead, so he wouldn't have been able to feel pain anymore. So now he'd be like crazier and he'd be like out for revenge for his brother, because remember that's the one with the brother was also there and the brother died. And the guy's like, didn't realize.
Cassidy (
19:14)
Yeah.
Kd (
19:15)
I didn't realize that was your real brother or whatever. β So the he was the killer. But the concept was that Erin would be arrested and because she was Australian, she immediately went to jail. Americans hate Australians in this in this universe. So they're like, she's guilty and sent her to jail. β And she's chained to a bunch of prisoners because she was like she killed a ton of people. So she's like high security risk. She's chained to a bunch of other prisoners.
Cassidy (
19:33)
Got it?
Yeah.
Kd (
19:42)
the bus that she's on transferring her to the prison gets attacked and she's changed to all these other prisoners and they take refuge in a meth lab near where the accident happens naturally. And there's booby traps in a meth lab also naturally. So that was how everybody was gonna start dying.
Cassidy (
19:56)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Kd (
20:06)
And at that point of them telling the story of the sequel, they're like, my point is that it's really good that we didn't make this movie.
Cassidy (
20:13)
Yeah, that sounds awful.
Kd (
20:15)
Yeah. I mean, I was kind of with them with the like, we can't feel pain anymore. That's very Michael Myers of them, I don't know, man.
Cassidy (
20:21)
But he was decapitated. His capo was detated from his body. He survives that,
but the nail in his head makes him go all crazy.
Kd (
20:31)
See, that's what, yeah, that's what I'm confused about is like, was his, like, did they nail his head back to his body through his hand?
Cassidy (
20:39)
β that's so stupid. β
Kd (
20:41)
I don't know.
I don't know. Also, where does he come in with the meth lab?
Cassidy (
20:46)
Yeah, the rest of the plot had nothing to do with him not being able to feel pain.
Kd (
20:52)
I know. I was reading the interview they did. Yeah, seriously.
Cassidy (
20:53)
Well, thank God that didn't work out.
Kd (
20:57)
Yeah.
Cassidy (
20:58)
What if it
had your next franchise hater?
Kd (
21:02)
They did say, and now we can't do that idea. What did they say? They said something specific about like going forward.
Cassidy (
21:08)
no.
Kd (
21:10)
You never know, our careers could take a nosedive and one of these days we might go, hey, we're ready to do Year Next 2. But it'll definitely be a different movie than the one I just described.
Cassidy (
21:20)
Thank God. Yeah.
I wouldn't mind seeing more of Erin. I think she's like a very underrated final girl. I think if you put all the final girls in a matchup, she might come out on top. She's kind of a badass.
Kd (
21:34)
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree. I think there was like... There was either not enough exposition or too much exposition about her and like her past.
Cassidy (
21:45)
Well, it has to be one of the two.
Kd (
21:46)
Yeah, I don't know which one it was. I think they needed to say less or a lot more.
Cassidy (
21:51)
Okay.
Kd (
21:52)
You know what mean?
Cassidy (
21:54)
Are you sure?
Kd (
21:55)
I didn't like, okay. Yeah, I just didn't like the like, you know, β yeah, by the way, I grew up on a compound and.
Cassidy (
21:55)
I felt like it was fine, but...
See, I felt like it was almost realistic to the situation because it might not have come up. Like, I don't think they've been together a super long time. So maybe she hasn't, like, gotten into that. And then during the situation, like the event, you're just going to be like, yeah, this is why. Like, we got to focus on other things. I can't really get into it. You know, like, you're not going to sit there and be like, well, back when I was a kid, go through a whole backstory.
Kd (
22:15)
Yeah.
Sure. Yeah.
Yeah.
Cassidy (
22:30)
One thing, like one of the themes that they wanted to do, shone best through Crispin. And I know one of my favorite letterbox reviews is, I would also try to kill my parents if they named me Crispin. That was pretty funny. But yeah, him and then Felix and Z, all the bad guys. But anyways, the theme was people turning out to be different than what you thought that they were, right?
Kd (
22:37)
What a dumb name.
Yeah.
Cassidy (
22:59)
And even Erin herself, like she's very sweet and you know, kind of this innocent person. And then all of a sudden when she needs to, she just turns it on because she has that background. But they even wanted to do that with the masks that they chose for the killers. So like the tiger immediately out of the three kind of seems like the most badass. He dies first. The lamb who seems, you know.
Kd (
22:59)
Mm-hmm.
Cassidy (
23:24)
We have this idea that lambs are a little bit more meek and mellow. He turns out to be the most vicious. So they wanted to kind of subvert expectations that way as well.
Kd (
23:34)
Interesting.
Did you hear about how they came up with the masks?
Cassidy (
23:39)
Yes. β
Kd (
23:41)
Tell them about it.
Cassidy (
23:44)
No. No, I'm kidding.
Kd (
23:45)
Hahaha!
Cassidy (
23:48)
Well, Barrett said that picking the masks, initially he didn't put much thought into it, but then they kind of decided they needed to pick things. Well, A, he wanted pagan looking animals from folklore, kind of familiar in that sense, but they also wanted them to look kind of boring, just masks that anybody could find and pick up because that's what they did, right? They didn't want these intricate masks that they had to create.
They wanted them to just be kind of slate, pick them up at a Halloween store and be done with it type of masks.
Kd (
24:16)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Just like in Scream.
Cassidy (
24:27)
Yeah, there I just run to the mill. That's a costume you could just put on.
Kd (
24:31)
Yeah, they mentioned that some of the inspiration was from scream that it needed to feel logical that the killers could acquire these masks and would acquire them because to your point, they're not going to go out and like look for something really intricate. β And speaking of scream, they actually took a lot of inspiration from the Drew Barrymore scene as inspiration for the whole movie, according to Adam Wingard.
Cassidy (
24:43)
Yeah.
Okay, yeah.
Kd (
24:56)
The home invasion piece.
Cassidy (
24:57)
Right. Just an extended opening screen scene. Yeah. I know one of the producers also said that they took a lot of inspiration from movies like Die Hard and Home Alone, where it's much more about what the protagonist does to turn the tables on the situation rather than what the villains are doing, which I think worked that that's what they did, for sure.
Kd (
25:02)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I did see this.
lovingly called horror home alone.
Cassidy (
25:33)
Yeah.
Kd (
25:35)
all the booby trapping and stuff.
Cassidy (
25:37)
Yeah, her setting up, I feel like the worst death she caused.
Kd (
25:42)
β absolutely.
Cassidy (
25:45)
Makes you want a smoothie.
Kd (
25:47)
I did have a smoothie today and I thought about that.
Cassidy (
25:50)
Did you think about it while you were blending it the whole time?
Kd (
25:53)
I didn't have to blend the smoothie, I just got it like blended. I didn't even have to like listen to it being blended, it was like already blended.
Cassidy (
25:57)
Got it, okay.
Good, yeah that would have been traumatic.
Kd (
26:04)
Yeah. I was like, oh, it's kind of looks like that guy's head.
Cassidy (
26:09)
Yeah.
Kd (
26:10)
Yeesh.
Cassidy (
26:12)
Shani Vincent actually said that that was her favorite scene to shoot. Not specifically her killing someone with a blender, but that whole kitchen fight sequence. She said that was really fun because it was kind of a cramped space and she got to work with the stunt coordinator. And I guess she had thought about doing stunts or did a few stunts previously, so that was exciting for her. β And she got to work with Wendy Glenn, who plays Z.
Kd (
26:15)
How cute.
cute.
Cassidy (
26:38)
who they're like really good friends in real life. They were roommates at one point too. she said that was the best scene that she got to shoot. And someone asked her what the worst scene was and she said, I don't know, it was just really fun. I don't think I have one. So that's cute. Yeah.
Kd (
26:43)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that is cute.
She also said that her favorite weapon on set was a fire poker. And she was constantly running around, spinning the fire poker and like pretending to kill people with it. And they didn't even let her get a kill with it. I know.
Cassidy (
27:08)
β
It's sad I didn't know she wanted to kill someone so bad with it.
Kd (
27:14)
She really did.
Cassidy (
27:15)
She also got injured on set. Yeah, it was during the dinner table scene, I think when everything kind of goes to shit and they're all hiding. And at one point she like throws the tablecloth off and dives under the table. But when she dove under, she accidentally basically face planted into Amy Simons, who plays Amy. But she like...
Kd (
27:17)
no.
Yeah.
Yes.
Cassidy (
27:44)
face planted into her heel. So she got a six inch stiletto to her face and so she had a black eye and Amy's like, I'm gonna get fired. I just bruised the main actress. But it was obviously they're all friends so it wasn't a big deal. But yeah, they had to cover that up for the rest of the shoot.
Kd (
27:49)
Ow.
β poor thing.
Cassidy (
28:06)
Yeah.
She seemed to take it in stride.
Kd (
28:09)
Yeah, I guess so. It's dried because it's a foot, because it's a shoe.
Cassidy (
28:14)
Got it. I was like not making the connection at first, but I got there. Yeah, a little bit, yeah.
Kd (
28:17)
Yeah, it was a stretch. Yeah.
Speaking of Amy, the whole film was shot in 26 days. They filmed nights six days a week. They slept from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. film the rest of time. And Amy and her character, Amy, were only there for three days.
Cassidy (
28:37)
Yeah.
Kd (
28:38)
She's in and out pretty quick.
Cassidy (
28:40)
I mean yeah, she just has to watch her boyfriend die and then die herself.
Kd (
28:46)
Easy. Pay me to do that.
Cassidy (
28:48)
One, two, punch.
β yeah.
Kd (
28:51)
in a film.
Cassidy (
28:52)
Thank you for clarifying.
I love that too, that death. Just run full speed outside.
Kd (
29:01)
which was the brother's idea to run outside.
Cassidy (
29:05)
It was Felix's suggestion, yes. So, little early on hint that he had something to do with it.
Kd (
29:14)
Yeah, which by the way, I knew from the beginning that it the call was coming from inside the house. I knew that something was up with that family. I couldn't pinpoint who.
Cassidy (
29:26)
Yeah.
Kd (
29:27)
And I was a little frustrated with how early they gave it away. It was like, it was pretty early. I mean, was maybe like the halfway mark, maybe a little past the halfway mark that we figured out it was the one brother. They sort of made up for it with the end because we didn't know it was the other brother. But anyway, β I thought how fun would it be to have just like a 10 minute prequel where the mom was in on it the whole time because she was pretty sus. The mom was pretty sus at the beginning. I was like, OK, she's fake crying like.
Cassidy (
29:32)
Okay.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Kd (
29:56)
She's just setting them up to like, maybe it was like a whole family thing. I had sort of like the, what's that other movie? The hide and seek movie? Ready or Not, I had those vibes. I even mentioned Ready or Not in the last episode. So it's like, maybe it's like the whole family against her or something. But anyway, β the mom was to us. I still think that maybe she could have been in on it. Like maybe she had like cancer and she knew she was gonna die and found out her husband was cheating on her. It's a lot of pieces they have to fit together.
Cassidy (
30:04)
Ready or not.
Yeah, very much.
Kd (
30:25)
And so she decided to sacrifice herself. And that's why we don't see her death on camera because they were actually pretty like, OK, we're going to kill you like gently. They were like, you know, merciful with her or whatever. And that's why the son was up there laying with her because he felt really guilty about it. Anyway, I just think that'd be a fun little like 10 minute prequel, you know, where you find out the mom was in on it the whole time.
Cassidy (
30:25)
Yeah.
Got it.
Yeah.
Read a fanfic. Go for it. I'll read it.
Kd (
30:52)
Yeah, maybe I will. Okay.
Thank you.
Cassidy (
30:57)
Yeah, I do think it was... I don't know, I can't remember my thoughts the first time I saw this. So I don't know if I was suspecting...
the actual people or not.
Kd (
31:12)
Sure.
Cassidy (
31:14)
But I do remember that Crispin was suspect to me. Like he was the one that I suspected the most, only because the number one rule in horror is if you don't see them die, they're not dead. So when he just left and we never heard back from him, I was like, okay, something's going on there.
Kd (
31:33)
which is what
I thought about the mom.
Cassidy (
31:35)
Okay, but then we do see her body dead, so... for like an extended scene where she's trying to get him to have sexual relations on his dead mom.
Kd (
31:46)
we didn't see her die. I'm just saying. It's rule number one. You gotta see him die.
Cassidy (
31:50)
true.
Or see them dead. But like dead dead. Not just a quick flash of the body and then you're gone, you know.
Kd (
32:00)
Yeah.
One thing I didn't, I wasn't clear on, maybe you can help clear it up, the whole like, he's been watching us for days scene with like the pee and the-
Cassidy (
32:02)
Bye.
Kd (
32:09)
Why?
Cassidy (
32:11)
yeah. I'm assuming just to like, scout out the place?
Kd (
32:16)
But it's their place.
Cassidy (
32:19)
Well, I'm assuming it was the other, like the actual Hitman. So that they would know all the ins and outs and have access to the house.
Kd (
32:26)
I guess, I don't know.
Cassidy (
32:28)
Because was them that was supposed to carry out all of the murders. So I'm assuming.
Kd (
32:32)
Yeah, I guess.
Cassidy (
32:34)
that Felix and Z just gave them access to the house.
Kd (
32:37)
Mm-hmm.
Cassidy (
32:39)
Yeah.
One thing about the killers that Barrett had said in an interview, which I thought was interesting because I didn't even catch it. And he was, he kind of talked about who he was very surprised that no one talked about it after the movie. But they said that they focused on not really saying how the family got like super well or like how much money they have. But they did say that the father made his money through working for a defense contractor.
Kd (
33:01)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Cassidy (
33:09)
So like
that's how the family's rich. And then also the hit men were veterans. So like that was supposed to be a connection of like why they're willing to help out.
Kd (
33:21)
β interesting.
Cassidy (
33:23)
Yeah,
and I didn't really like that. I didn't pay too... Yeah, didn't give that any attention whatsoever in my brain, reading that after I was like, wait, that does okay, that makes a little bit of sense. I like that connection, so.
Kd (
33:27)
Yeah.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah.
It is a fun connection.
Cassidy (
33:41)
Yeah.
Kd (
33:42)
Now I hold you. I don't have any more fun facts.
I will say one more thing though. Have you seen the trailer for this movie?
Cassidy (
33:48)
Okay.
Probably in 2013. Did it?
Kd (
33:54)
It sucked.
Yeah, I would not have seen this movie. It was so fucking cheesy. It was like it was literally like a home alone commercial. It was like, what happens when your family like it was just like maybe it's just a product of its time. I don't know, but it was a really stupid trailer and it had like a really dumb song playing at the beginning. I don't think it was the song. The like groovy song in the movie or whatever the subtitles called it.
Cassidy (
34:11)
Yeah.
Interesting.
Kd (
34:24)
Yeah, it was just it was just like a weird. Tell us in the comments what you think about the trailer compared to the movie, because the trailer was not good.
Cassidy (
34:33)
β
I'm gonna have to go back and watch it.
Kd (
34:37)
Yeah, for sure.
Cassidy (
34:38)
I mean, I will say, I think at the beginning of the movie, like, the acting is a little cheesy. But it's also a bunch of directors acting, so... I feel like, yeah, sometimes, especially with, low budgets where it's really just... you're hiring a bunch of people you already know because that's what you can afford to do, I give it some allowances for a little bad acting here and there, you know?
Kd (
34:45)
Yeah. Yeah. Just a bunch of friends.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. And it wasn't terrible.
Cassidy (
35:07)
No, it wasn't like egregious or anything. It was just every once in a while I'd be like, all right, calm down. Yeah.
Kd (
35:10)
No. It was... Yeah. It was passable.
Cassidy (
35:16)
But yeah, they said they liked that a lot of them were already friends because obviously that helped with the whole family dynamic, made it a lot easier for them to feel like they all had history since they pretty much all did. And it also helped that I think the only person Charney Vincent knew was Wendy Glenn. So then it felt even more like everybody was friends and she wasn't a part of that. So it helped with her kind of being that outsider of the group.
Kd (
35:23)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Cute. Yeah, she did tell a story about because they were roommates at the time that they both auditioned and Charney came home from the interview or the audition and was like, I fucked that up. It was so bad. I did terrible. And then they both ended up getting the job.
Cassidy (
35:51)
Mmm.
That's funny.
I'm pretty sure, I can't remember who was Adam Wingard or Simon Barrett, but one of them was talking about the auditions for the part of Erin and how they said like 90 % of the people coming into audition were wearing like short shorts and cut off jeans and crop tops and stuff like that. And like really going for that 2000s final girl type of look.
Kd (
36:28)
Yeah.
Cassidy (
36:29)
And they were like, that's not what we're going for here at all. So they said Charmie Vincent immediately stuck out because she just came in wearing a normal jeans and a t-shirt type of look.
Kd (
36:34)
Ugh.
Cute. I feel like that's generally, mean, unless the casting call specifically outlines an outfit, I feel like jeans and a t-shirt is a safe bet.
Cassidy (
36:55)
Yeah, I know sometimes people will dress of like what the part feels like. And sometimes like I've heard of people going in for auditions and they'll be told, hey, can you come back wearing this? Can you come back like with your hair in a certain way? So I feel like it's not as uncommon, but yeah, you'd think that plain jeans and a plain top would be standard.
Kd (
37:02)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cassidy (
37:20)
I don't know. I'm not an actor. Casting agents, please let us know what you think people should wear to an audition.
Kd (
37:22)
Yeah.
And then also get us auditions for things. That'd be great too.
Cassidy (
37:29)
Yeah, I would love
one.
Kd (
37:32)
Yeah, Cassidy can go first and then if you have any more, then I will also take one. Thank you. Yeah.
Cassidy (
37:37)
Wow, that's very sweet of you. Thank you so
much. Yeah, yeah. If you have a part in a movie of... Bitch, I'm perfect for that role, let me tell you what. Sarcastic. I'm your girl.
Kd (
37:45)
Hahaha!
Yeah.
And I'm just having a good time.
Cassidy (
37:54)
And she's here too. β
Kd (
37:56)
Hahaha! β
Cassidy (
37:58)
Last thing that I have for fun facts is just about the house that they used to film in. It was an actual house. Originally, they were... Their idea was to go for something really minimalist, like great walls and just kind of a boring blank space. But then they changed their minds. They said, we want it to feel like a home and kind of that old money type of home. So they searched for houses like that instead.
Kd (
38:14)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Cassidy (
38:26)
They ended up finding an antique home that had been empty for 12 years. The owners had been trying to sell it, but they hadn't been keeping up with it at all. So they basically came to them and offered a deal of like, hey, we'll clean it up. We'll kind of like renovate it a bit if you let us film in here. And they did. So that was kind of the trade off for getting to film in it. They had to clean up like a bunch of broken glass. They had to fix some windows. And then they had to just be careful.
when they were shooting the arrows and stuff to make sure that there were pads so that it didn't actually puncture the walls, but... Yeah. And it... Yeah. And then apparently it was on a golf course, like right behind a golf course, and like two houses right next door, on both sides. So they had to be so careful about how they shot the house, because they said even if we moved like a centimeter over, it would have given away the whole illusion, so...
Kd (
38:59)
Yeah.
Cute.
Mm-hmm.
Oops.
Yeah.
Yeah, they did a really good job of the like lost in the woods kind of vibe.
Cassidy (
39:25)
Yeah, it definitely felt remote.
Kd (
39:27)
Mm-hmm.
Which was the point.
Cassidy (
39:30)
Toise.
Kd (
39:32)
Very good. Good job, guys.
Cassidy (
39:34)
Hey guys, great job. Adam and Simon, Simon.
Kd (
39:35)
Adam and Spencer Simon.
Sorry Simon. Yeah, good job. Yeah, way to go. High fives all around.
Cassidy (
39:44)
Great job, great work, team.
It's all around.
Kd (
39:52)
Well, should we rate it?
Cassidy (
39:53)
Sure, let's do it!
Kd (
39:55)
Alright, how scary did you think it was?
Cassidy (
39:59)
Surprisingly, I only gave it a one. I know, you thought that the... I don't know why this movie doesn't scare me as much as like the Strangers did. Like the Strangers ruined my life when I was 16. But this, this was a fun time. So I don't know. I gave it a one, just half a point because I really don't want my home invaded, but this doesn't seem like a situation I'd be in to be honest. My parents are not wealthy.
Kd (
40:02)
okay.
Ha!
Yeah.
Cassidy (
40:28)
And I'm one of two children. And I really don't think she would contract a hitman for me. Thank you. No. I don't think a hitman would be involved in our lives, period.
Kd (
40:34)
Yeah, I don't think so either. Or help the hitman.
Hahaha
Cassidy (
40:43)
What about you?
Kd (
40:45)
Yeah, the home invasion doesn't scare me, but I will admit that I Did lock the door to my garage for the first time ever the night. I watch this movie So it has to count for something
Cassidy (
40:57)
It'll get in your mind.
Kd (
40:59)
Yeah, yeah. I was in the... Transparently, I was in the garage. Smoking, as one does in the garage. And as I came inside and off the light, I like thought I saw somebody sitting in my car in like the corner of my eye. So I just closed the door real fast, locked it, turned off the light and went upstairs. Didn't look back. Didn't make sure there wasn't anybody in my car. Just like, no, I'm not dealing with this tonight.
Cassidy (
41:28)
So the guy that lives in your car was counting his blessings last night.
Kd (
41:28)
Anyway, I... Yeah, seriously.
Anyway, I ended up giving it a two. Yeah.
Cassidy (
41:36)
my gosh!
Someone in your house who's not supposed to be there is scary!
Kd (
41:42)
It's not ideal, but it's not like the worst thing ever. Supernatural is far scarier to me.
Cassidy (
41:47)
No, because that can't happen, kd. Someone can come into my house. That's scary.
Kd (
41:49)
Exactly!
Yeah, whatever.
Cassidy (
41:55)
How sexy did you think it was?
Kd (
41:58)
I mean, it's a final girl movie. That's sexy. That's what I'm looking for in sex appeal of horror movies It did have a lot of off-putting gore, however But I mean it also had some fun sexy gore. It was just like a lot I I split it right down the middle out of two and a half Is your true that Wow Yeah
Cassidy (
42:02)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm.
Yeah.
I did too! Yeah! Cause kinda
same thing, slasher vibes, Aaron's a great final g-
Kd (
42:25)
finer gorl, final, gorl. Okay, despicable me over here. Grew.
Cassidy (
42:35)
She's a great final goil.
Yeah, and I'm grew.
Yeah, mainly just for her vibes, to be honest. Yeah, yeah.
Kd (
42:45)
totes.
How fucked up did you think it was?
Cassidy (
42:50)
I gave it a 1.5 because there were like the blender scene and then the Garrett scene where that was like a bit much.
Kd (
42:59)
Yeah, I mean it has some pretty gnarly kills.
Cassidy (
43:01)
Yeah, for sure.
Kd (
43:03)
β it kept me on my toes. But I, I don't know that anything other than the blender was like new or different. The blender scene... I haven't seen that anywhere else. Like, break off the top of a blender and use the blades to kill somebody through their head, the top of their head. There was also a lot of top of the head kills. And I don't know if you've ever seen a baby, but...
Cassidy (
43:06)
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Kd (
43:29)
What?
Cassidy (
43:30)
Finish your sentence? Where is this going?
Kd (
43:32)
But
they don't have, their skull is not together.
Cassidy (
43:37)
Yeah?
Kd (
43:38)
So, and you can see their little heartbeat in their brain when they're babies. And that's the only thing I think of when I think of top of the head kill. Like that's disgusting. Have you ever seen a baby?
Cassidy (
43:58)
Yeah, I've seen a baby.
Alright, well I'm sorry that happened to you. I don't know how to respond to that if I'm being honest.
Kd (
44:04)
Thanks. β I don't, that's okay. That's
okay. But anyway, I gave it a two. Yeah. Yeah, the top of the head kills. I don't like that at all.
Cassidy (
44:09)
Great, okay.
Kd (
44:15)
Cause that's one of the things when you're a new mom and you're like, what if something goes in my baby's brain through the top of their head? That's one of the things that was like a thought that you think.
Cassidy (
44:15)
It's not ideal.
My mom, her mantra when we were children was watch your head. And my aunt, her sister, made fun of her for it all the time. Watch your head. That's all Jackie can say is watch your head. Do you know how many head injuries me and my sister had? Zero. Do you know how many her son had? Nine and a half. Every day that kid was hitting his head on something. So my mom got the last laugh, clearly.
Kd (
44:45)
Yeah
Yeah, I mean, to be fair, your skull does close at like two years old or something. Less. Yeah.
Cassidy (
44:59)
Yeah, but it's still, you should watch your head as a general
note and your children's heads. Tell your children to watch their heads.
Kd (
45:05)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. I'll go tell mine right now.
Cassidy (
45:10)
Keep this safe. The noggin.
Kd (
45:13)
That's what I say, watch your nog.
Cassidy (
45:15)
Yeah, the nog is important.
Kd (
45:19)
You're just like constantly covering corners. Like, okay. Why are going directly for the fucking corner?
Cassidy (
45:22)
Yeah.
They can't see this up here. Yeah. All right, overall, what did you think of You Are Next?
Kd (
45:27)
Yeah, they're too small.
This was fun. A really great final girl with the fun little twist at the end with her getting shot. That was the twist. Not the brother thing. was like whatever. Yeah, I personally think she would have lived and been able to self-defense contrary to what the directors think. β So that's good for her. I love that for her. The acting was fine. Like whatever. The pace was great. I don't generally have a real comment on the pace of the movie unless it's like a real slog.
Cassidy (
45:38)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Kd (
46:04)
But this one was like super great. It was a perfect pace, perfect length. It wasn't too long at all. β I do think that the sort of like cause coming from inside the house trope is a little overdone. And I guessed that really early on, but they sort of solved that introducing the brother as an accomplice. I didn't see that one coming. So that was kind of fun. Anyway, β not a lot of complaints here. So I gave it a four.
Cassidy (
46:24)
Mm-hmm.
Let's go!
Kd (
46:29)
Yeah,
this is a one, a fun one.
Cassidy (
46:31)
Yeah, this is definitely one those movies that for people who are getting into horror don't know a lot of horror movies, I always recommend it if they like slashers because it's one that a lot of people haven't heard of and it's great. It's so much fun. I also gave it a four. So we're very in sync today. I'm loving that. Yeah, I think this movie is great. It's definitely
Kd (
46:40)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Thank
Cassidy (
46:55)
I know, I just really love low budget movies where a bunch of friends come together to make a movie. I love that vibe and I think that it was done really well. Some of it, yeah, kind of gives that vibe. think the handheld cam, I know they were doing it for tension, but sometimes it was like a little, hold it steady, know? Some of the acting a little bit cheesy, but overall I think it was really well done. I think it was a fun concept. The kills were really interesting and new. β And yeah, Aaron is...
Kd (
47:12)
Yeah.
Cassidy (
47:24)
Top five final girls of all time, I think. In terms of skill, nobody's touching that bitch. Yeah, and I think you're right. I do think that she would have gotten away with it because, hello, the only person who just witnessed her murder someone just got killed by a booby trap. So I think she's good. And she tried to say it, she'd be like, hey, whoa, whoa, you know, you didn't see nothing.
Kd (
47:31)
Yeah, definitely in terms of skill.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, well,
I mean, the only thing going against her is that she does have the police officer's bullet in her shoulder. That's the only thing like why would the police officer shoot her unless she was doing something wrong?
Cassidy (
47:56)
That's true. But she could claim
that he was aiming at Crispin and she was able to take Crispin down. You know, she accidentally moved in front. That's what I would say. Yeah.
Kd (
48:08)
Yeah, true, true, true,
true, Yeah. And I don't think, I don't think, I mean, again, this is going against the directors. I don't think Americans hate Australians. I think we like Australians fine.
Cassidy (
48:20)
Did they actually say that in the interview?
Kd (
48:23)
She, they said, well I deleted it, hold on.
Cassidy (
48:26)
Okay, I thought you were just making a joke about that. That's what they said!
Kd (
48:30)
No!
They said, they said, due to her jarring Australian accent, jury would railroad her. Wait, let me start over. Due to her jarring Australian accent, a jury would railroad, I can't say railroad. Anyway, she'd be instantly sent to prison by the corrupt American judicial system.
Cassidy (
48:43)
That's true.
Yeah, we're getting there though.
I want to be very clear, the corrupt American judicial system does not punish white Australians harsher at all. They're actually more likely to get off, so I think she'd be just fine.
Kd (
49:07)
No, no way.
I would,
yeah, I think so too. Especially being like a woman, she does have that going for her. That's like the one.
Cassidy (
49:18)
Yeah, and Americans
love foreign accents as long as they're, you the white ones. Americans love that shit. Yeah. I think she'd be fine.
Kd (
49:23)
Yeah.
They do.
Yeah, I don't discriminate against accents. I like them all.
Cassidy (
49:32)
Thank you for clarifying.
Kd (
49:34)
You're
welcome. β
Cassidy (
49:38)
Alright, would you survive?
Kd (
49:41)
β I mean if I grew up on a compound I feel like I Can apply the skills that I have practically in my life? So if I were to have grown up on a compound I would have acquired the skills that she uses and I would have been able to apply them Practically in that situation, so I think I live
Cassidy (
49:51)
Okay.
Okay, I mean, if we're saying we have her background, then yeah. I think that's a given though. I we're saying like you right now, if you're in this situation, would you survive?
Kd (
50:06)
Yeah.
What?
Cassidy (
50:17)
you as you, you know? Yeah.
Kd (
50:19)
Yeah, like without
the without the background of having been trained.
Cassidy (
50:25)
raised in a
combat compound I guess. Yeah. Okay.
Kd (
50:28)
Yeah, whatever kind of, yeah, weird. Yeah, no, get, no.
I was only I put myself in the entire situation. Like my my personality, my vibes. In the entire situation, the entire situation includes she had the skills, yeah.
Cassidy (
50:40)
Okay.
Got it.
you have in the background.
So I think if we did that though we could say that we live in any movie that anybody lives in because we have their skills, you know what I mean?
Kd (
51:01)
Well, no, because it's not always skill that makes them. It was definitely her skill that got her through.
Cassidy (
51:09)
Yeah.
Kd (
51:10)
It's not always that. Sometimes they don't have any skill and they still make it out.
You know?
Cassidy (
51:17)
So that's where you'd say, no, because I don't have their skills? Well, you don't have anything? Okay.
Kd (
51:21)
No, it would still depend. It would still depend.
Like, like in I keep bringing up Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's the only movie I remember right now. β the final girl in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. She didn't have any special skills. She wasn't doing anything interesting to get away. She just sort of got away. I would not have fought as hard as her personally. So I would have died.
Cassidy (
51:29)
Great.
But maybe you have her skill of fighting hard.
Kd (
51:46)
That's not a skill. That's like a trait.
Cassidy (
51:49)
But you know, how far is it if it's what's cheating? Giving ourselves skills that we don't have? I think we're saying like, would we as us survive?
Kd (
51:55)
I guess.
Yeah, like right now, current state, I go over to my, like in-laws house or whatever and people start shooting.
Cassidy (
52:08)
Yeah, and they
start shooting.
Kd (
52:11)
I don't live. Well, but also, okay, wait, wait, I'm not supposed to die in this movie. I'm not supposed to die. And I wouldn't have gone around. He said, he said, if you hadn't gone around starting to kill people, you would have lived.
Cassidy (
52:13)
Okay.
So that
is only if you believe Kristen. You do, because they tried to shoot her multiple times. So they weren't listening if that was the case.
Kd (
52:32)
I do. He has a kind face.
Cassidy (
52:44)
I don't think he was telling the truth. I think he was lying to try to save his own ass in that moment.
Kd (
52:51)
annoying.
Cassidy (
52:52)
I'm sorry that you believed him. That was crazy work.
Kd (
52:54)
It's okay.
He has a kind face. What can I say? He does. He absolutely fucking does have a kind face.
Cassidy (
52:59)
He doesn't.
Okay.
I don't know, it's up to you. Personally, I'm saying I don't live because A, I don't have her background and B, I do not believe Crispin. They try to kill her multiple times throughout the thing before she starts killing them. So I think he was lying to save his own ass. I think she was supposed to die. I think Z was there to be the witness and I think I would have died.
Kd (
53:32)
Okay. Well, I probably would have died too. Odds are near my favor.
Cassidy (
53:37)
It's
your life. You can say whatever you want.
Kd (
53:42)
I'm not allowed to believe Crispin now, so...
Cassidy (
53:45)
You can believe Crispin only once. Do I think the evidence points otherwise? Yes. But it's up to you.
Kd (
53:54)
I die.
Cassidy (
53:55)
Okay.
Kd (
53:56)
Jot that one down, I'm dead. We're both dead.
Cassidy (
53:59)
We're both dead. Rip us.
Kd (
54:01)
It would have been a really good
opportunity for me to try to get ahead though.
Cassidy (
54:04)
I feel like I took it from you a little bit and I can't what I feel bad now. now I feel less bad.
Kd (
54:07)
Yeah. You should, but that's OK. β
Somebody told me today, I don't remember what the conversation was, but I was like, not to brag. And they were like, no, it was really good. And I was like, yeah, I was bragging. He's like, yeah, I obviously was. β
Cassidy (
54:25)
No, yeah, I was bragging.
Love it. Alright, would you like to predict next week's movie? Okay, we are going to see a new movie.
Kd (
54:35)
Yes.
Clown in a cornfield. Clown in a cornfield.
Cassidy (
54:42)
Yeah, if you're listening to this, it's out in theaters now.
Kd (
54:48)
as of last Friday.
Cassidy (
54:50)
Yes, the ninth.
Kd (
54:52)
of May, 2025.
Cassidy (
54:54)
Thank you so much. Yes. All right, tell me what clown in a cornfield is about. I don't know if you're right. So we'll this is fun. Go for it. No, I haven't. I have seen the author because it's based on a book. I've seen him on the TikTok promoting it. But I limited knowledge.
Kd (
55:02)
Yeah, and I haven't seen the trailer. Have you seen the trailer? OK.
Yes. Okay.
Okay, I think it's pretty basic. think it literally gives the plot away in the title. There's a clown in a cornfield chasing people around. It's probably a bunch of college kids out partying and they go past a farm and the farmer yells after them, don't you go playing in their cornfields. And they're probably like post gaming the local fair because they got bored at the fair. So they're like, yeah, let's go drinking the cornfields.
Cassidy (
55:19)
You
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Kd (
55:39)
And while they were at the fair, they probably made fun of a clown and that was the wrong clown to make fun of. And then they don't listen to the farmer. And so they go to the corn fields and the clown they made fun of, started slowly picking them off from the shadows one by one. And they try to escape, but it's a corn field and you can't see your way out of those. That's why they make mazes out of them. And then they all just die. And then the clown goes back to the fair and just continues playing with kids like a real clown, not a killer clown.
Cassidy (
55:53)
Yeah.
Mmm.
Yeah.
Got it, okay.
Kd (
56:11)
Basic.
Cassidy (
56:11)
Yeah,
I feel like that would be my guess too. I know we read the summary when we did new movies coming out in May.
Kd (
56:14)
Thank you.
β I.
Cassidy (
56:21)
From that, all I remember is someone's moving into the town and the town is in financial ruin because the factory just got shut down or something. That's all I remember. No, I think it was like a syrup factory. Yeah, which doesn't make sense because it's corn field. Anyways, corn syrup. my God, kd, it's a corn syrup factory. Probably. Anyways, I don't know what that has to do with the clown.
Kd (
56:31)
The corn factory?
syrup.
Corn syrup, corn syrup's a thing. Yeah, maybe it's a corn syrup factory.
Cassidy (
56:49)
But then I think the clown starts killing people. And I think from there on, it's probably, I think you're right. I think it's just kind of a run of the mill slasher about a clown.
Kd (
56:57)
Yeah. But
it's got good early reviews.
Cassidy (
57:01)
It does.
Kd (
57:03)
I know that much.
Cassidy (
57:04)
Yeah, so, you know, we'll have to wait and see.
Kd (
57:08)
Yeah, but obviously we take that with a grain of salt because the people who want to have seen it early have seen it. They're going to be rating it higher.
Cassidy (
57:15)
Yeah, usually reviews...
Yeah. At this point in time, the reviews are from people who sought out that movie. So they're gonna be a little bit biased, I think. But... Who's to say?
Kd (
57:24)
Yeah.
Should we take bets on what the the audience and critics score will be by the time we record the episode?
Cassidy (
57:34)
β absolutely we should. Okay. Okay. Well, should we say them on here?
Kd (
57:36)
Okay, I'm going to write mine down. I'll send you a message with them. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, but I'm going to write it down and send it to you so I can't change my answer be influenced by what you say.
Cassidy (
57:44)
Okay,
I'm gonna say...
Kd (
57:48)
So critics.
Cassidy (
57:50)
By the time we review it, we're filming so it's opening weekend. The reviews come in. Okay, I have mine.
Kd (
57:53)
So it'll have Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, five days. Opening weekend only.
Okay, wait.
Cassidy (
58:04)
Do you
me send them to you or do you want me to just...
Kd (
58:06)
I mean, I'm sending him in a message just for posterity, you know, but I'm not done yet.
Cassidy (
58:11)
Okay. β
Kd (
58:13)
I've got a theme.
Cassidy (
58:15)
Okay. Yep.
Kd (
58:16)
Okay, ready?
Okay, I said that critics would, oh, we were pretty close. We were pretty close. I said critics would give it a 59, and audience would give it a 69. Nice.
Cassidy (
58:21)
We were pretty close.
Okay, I said critics would give it a 52 and audiences would give it a 59. So I do think audiences are gonna like it better. Yeah.
Kd (
58:30)
Okay. Okay.
we do. Yeah,
definitely.
Cassidy (
58:40)
Alright, this is fun.
Kd (
58:41)
Yeah, because critics don't like to have fun. Yeah.
Cassidy (
58:43)
Critics hate fun. If there's one
thing fun hates to see coming, it's a critic. Yeah.
Kd (
58:47)
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, cool. That'll be a fun little experiment for us on Tuesday. I can't wait to be watching that all weekend and or that too.
Cassidy (
58:55)
Completely wrong.
We get back, like, it's a 99 % critic score. 24 % audience score.
Kd (
59:01)
Hahaha!
my
God. I mean, it's like a 98 right now. Audience or critic score.
Cassidy (
59:09)
Critics.
Kd (
59:11)
Which is, or like in 93 or something, I don't remember.
Cassidy (
59:13)
Maybe we undershot, but you know what? I like going into a movie with low expectations. Cause then, there's nowhere to go but up.
Kd (
59:17)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Cassidy (
59:22)
Well, I'm glad that you enjoyed your next fun little slasher.
Kd (
59:26)
Yeah, so fun. Highly recommend.
Cassidy (
59:28)
Definitely. I'm excited to see Clown in the cornfield.
Kd (
59:32)
Me too.
I forget what we asked you guys to do in the comments, but do that please.
Cassidy (
59:37)
That's what I was just trying to remember. I was like, I know we said something.
Kd (
59:41)
The trailer! Go watch the trailer for year next and tell me if it was crazy.
Cassidy (
59:45)
I'm actually gonna do that. I'm gonna watch it after this and then I'll message you. Okay. Perfect, yeah. Please like and subscribe, follow for more content. It's gonna be here whether you like it or not.
Kd (
59:47)
Yeah, we can watch it together. Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Cassidy (
1:00:02)
and we'll see you next week for our May movie Climbing the Cornfield.
Kd (
1:00:08)
Hooray! See you then. Bye!
Cassidy (
1:00:11)
Bye.