In this episode of the Killer Cuties Podcast, hosts Cassidy and Kd discuss the latest horror movie releases for April, including 'Screamboat' and 'Hell of a Summer'. They delve into the themes of upcoming films and transition into a detailed discussion about 'The Wolf of Snow Hollow', exploring its narrative, character dynamics, and production challenges. The conversation highlights the unique storytelling approach of Jim Cummings, the film's director, and actor, as well as the emotional depth and humor embedded in the film. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the film 'Wolf of Snow Hollow,' discussing its humor, themes of alcoholism, character development, and the representation of women in the police force. They explore the practical effects used in the film, the subversion of horror tropes, and share behind-the-scenes insights. The discussion culminates in their final thoughts and ratings of the film, highlighting its impact and the challenges faced by indie films. In this episode, Kd and Cassidy review the film 'Wolf of Snow Hollow,' discussing its themes of anxiety, relationships, and the balance of horror and comedy. They explore the film's emotional impact, the characters' dynamics, and their personal ratings. The conversation also touches on survival scenarios and predictions for their next film review, 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre.'
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Hello?
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Hi.
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Welcome back to the Killer Q's podcast.
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Happy Tuesday.
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The happiest of Tuesdays.
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You're right, though the year is still early.
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It is.
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I hope this Tuesday is happy, but I hope that your happiest Tuesday this year is yet to come.
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Right?
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Like that's like a fun, fun thing.
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Look forward to your happiest Tuesday.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I hope they're all happy.
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Yeah, I hope you never have a bad Tuesday.
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Yes.
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And how could you when Killer Ques podcast releases?
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That's true, I can't imagine having a bad day when the best podcast ever is released.
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So at some point between the hours of like 630 and two o'clock in the afternoon.
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Yeah.
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Well, it's our last episode of March.
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It is.
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Tell him what it means.
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It means that we are...
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quarter of the way done with the year.
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Also, we're gonna tell you all the horror movies that are coming out in April.
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Well, no, we're gonna tell you all the horror movies that are coming out in April that we were able to find.
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Yeah, pretty sure it's most of them.
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Yeah, there's quite a few.
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Be as a lot.
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Would you like to kick us off?
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yeah, I can start.
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Great!
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Okay, on April 2nd, we get Screamboat finally.
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That's the opportunistic Steamboat Willie finally hit the public domain slasher starring David Howard Thornton of Terrifier fame.
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Tyler Posey, is that his name?
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So yeah, you said that last episode and I just took your word for it.
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Tyler Posey's not in that movie.
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Jesse Posey, his little brother, is in that movie.
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I did not see him on the cast list.
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He's in the trailer?
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Are you sure it wasn't his brother?
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I don't think so.
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Unless they look identical.
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Well then maybe he does have a cameo.
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I don't know.
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I saw Jesse Posey.
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I did not see Tyler Posey.
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Okay, we'll be right back in two minutes after we watch this trailer again.
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Let me look through IMDb too, because...
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No, he is!
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He is!
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Never mind, you're right!
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Thank you.
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Yeah, he wasn't on the cast list on like Google.
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Yeah, that's so weird.
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Yeah, maybe it's just like a like an opening kill or something.
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That'd be fun.
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that would be fun.
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Hey, big brother, come get killed by David Howard Thornton in this movie.
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Anyway, in Screamboat, a late night boat ride in New York City becomes a struggle for survival when a seemingly harmless mouse transforms into a dangerous monster.
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And that comes out on April 2nd.
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Am I going to keep going?
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Do I just go through all of these that I've got so many?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, you do the first half, I'll do the second.
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Okay, sounds good.
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So then on April 4th, we have four movies.
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First, Hell of a Summer follows 24 year old camp counselor Jason who arrives at Camp Pine Way to discover that a mass killer is lurking on the campgrounds brutally picking
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counselors off one by one.
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This one is produced by and starring Billy Brick and Finn Wolfhard and apparently premiered the Toronto International Film Festival nearly two years ago and it just got
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picked up by neon.
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Wake Up is about a group of young activists who set out to make an environmental statement by vandalizing a home superstore as it closes.
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Their plan goes terribly wrong when they become trapped inside and must face a deranged security guard with a gruesome passion for primitive hunting.
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This is another one that premiered nearly two years ago and is just now getting its US release.
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The Grove also comes out April 4th.
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When Terrence, a Black Ops soldier, goes under an experiment to create a better life for him and his fiance Alice, his homecoming turns tragic when he stops taking medication,
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descending into feral madness.
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And finally, Parvulus, Children of the Apocalypse releases April 4th as well.
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In a dystopian future ravaged by a viral apocalypse, three young brothers find themselves isolated in a remote cabin deep within the woods, harboring a dark and disturbing secret
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in their basement.
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This one already has really good reviews.
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on Rotten Tomatoes at least and has been described by critics as a coming of age horror fantasy.
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Those last four were coming out on April 4th then we've got one more from me.
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April 11th Marshmallow is releasing.
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When a once fabled campfire tale becomes real a group of campers uncover a profound secret that questions their very existence.
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Alright.
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The poster is really cool.
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The poster is very like 70s, 80s slasher film, kind of like Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th vibes, like poster vibes.
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The poster looks cool.
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I like that, I like that.
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I feel like there...
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No, you only said two that made me feel like summer camp vibes, but still, I feel like that era of movies coming out now because it's close to summer, so I'm so excited.
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Yeah.
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It looks fun.
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Everything looks fun.
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They all look great.
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I'll take the last half of April.
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We have four releases on the 18th.
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First we have the ugly stepsister.
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Obviously this is another horror take on a classic tale Cinderella.
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This follows Elvira.
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She battles to compete with her insanely beautiful stepsister in a fairy tale kingdom where beauty is a brutal business.
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Elvira will go to any lengths to catch the princess eye.
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It feels like a little body horror, like she's gonna get surgical stuff to make her pretty.
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Is it actually alvira?
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No, Elvira does not play Elvira.
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Sorry.
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Yeah.
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And then we have It Feeds.
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young girl insists that a malevolent entity is feeding on her and her anguished father desperately struggles to protect her to save the girl before she is completely consumed.
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A clairvoyant therapist must confront her own personal demons.
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This one's going to start Ashley Green and Sean Ashmore.
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Fun.
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of Twilight fame.
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of Twilight fame, exactly.
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And then we also have Sinners coming out, probably one of the more well-known ones coming out.
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Yeah.
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Trying to leave their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown to start again, only to discover that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back.
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This one is directed by Ryan Coogler and it stars Michael B.
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Jordan and Hailey Steinfeld.
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And then finally on the 18th, we have yet another classic tale horror movie, The Death of Snow White.
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Really going all out with the Brothers Grimm this year.
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Hunted by her evil stepmother, Snow White must overcome the horrors of the Dark Forest and make unlikely friends with seven murderous dwarfs.
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It can't be worse than the Disney Snow White live action.
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Gal Gadot is not in it, so it sounds good to me.
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I'm struggling.
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I love Rachel Ziegler, hate Gal Gadot.
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So what am I supposed to do?
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Yeah.
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Rachel's egg were really guru on me over the last probably six to 12 months.
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Oh, I just, she's so talented.
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I love her.
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Big fan.
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I didn't like the way she was handling the Snow White stuff, but in hindsight, she handled it really well.
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Yeah, I feel like people blew that way out of proportion.
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And I also feel like the same people who hated on her for that love Robert Pattinson for how much he hates Twilight.
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So get over yourselves.
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That's what I think.
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Also, you can't fucking tell me that that was not Disney's own talking points that she was given.
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It was a red carpet interview.
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They say what they're supposed to be saying.
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So blame Disney, don't blame her.
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Also, I really don't think Robert Pattinson hates Twilight.
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I think he does, and I think it's really funny that he does.
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I don't think he really does.
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I mean, there's behind the scenes videos of them having like an actually good time.
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I don't think he hated like filming it.
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I think he just thinks the source material is really dumb, which is fair.
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That's fair.
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Have you seen Mickey 17 yet?
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Me too, me too.
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Anyways, two more movies.
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Coming out on April 25th, we have The Kilgrin.
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After a personal tragedy, Miranda explores unconventional self-help methods only to learn that a spiritual hero, or from a spiritual healer, that she has an infection of her aura
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called a Kilgrin, which thrives off of her misery.
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She soon unravels a terrifying truth when people close to her suffer a gruesome fate.
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Sounds kind of interesting.
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Not gonna hold you when you said Kilgrin, I thought for sure it was like a play on the word children and it was a bunch of like murderous children.
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Yeah.
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No.
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And then finally on the 25th we have the movie that was supposed to be based off of the video game of the same name until they decided, nah, we're not going to do that until
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dawn.
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What?
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Wait, I thought they were going pretty close to the source material there.
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No, not at all.
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That's why everybody's mad.
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Yeah.
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We did.
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We did.
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One day your goldfish brain will remember something.
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Yeah.
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Anyways, the movie is about, uh, oh, here's a summary.
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One year after her sister mysteriously disappeared, Clover and her friends head to the remote valley where she vanished in search of answers.
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They find themselves horrifically murdered one by one, only to wake up and find themselves back at the beginning of the same evening.
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Trapped in the valley, they're forced to relive the night again and again, facing multiple different monsters, and the only way to escape is to survive until dawn.
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Wow, I mean they got the name right.
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They sure did.
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And I feel like of all the monsters they fight, probably one of them is Wendigos.
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But who's to say?
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Not me.
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Hmm.
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We'll see.
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Yo, they-
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Don't piss off video game fans.
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I just think they could have just called it a dark pictures game and then made it into that instead of calling it Until Dawn and then not picking a path of Until Dawn and
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sticking with it.
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That seems silly to me.
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Sounds reasonable.
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Thank you.
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I think so.
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Well, exciting.
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There's some good ones, some clunkers, I'm sure, but some good ones it sounds like.
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Yeah, there's definitely some I'm excited for.
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Yeah.
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All right, well, should we get to it?
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Let's do it.
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All right.
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We're here to talk about the movie The Wolf of Snow Hollow.
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It's a 2020 American horror mystery recommended to us by our dear friend, Anitra.
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Thank you, Anitra.
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It's written, directed by and starring Jim Cummings.
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No, not that Jim Cummings, the most beloved voice actor of our generation, the other Jim Cummings.
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You know who Jim Cummings is?
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my god, he's fucking Winnie the Pooh.
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He's the Firefly in Princess and the Frog.
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He's literally everybody.
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He sings Scar.
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He's the singer.
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He sings Be Prepared.
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So I do know him, guess I didn't know his name.
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you absolutely know him.
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He's in every animated movie ever.
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Wow, every one.
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That's crazy.
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Well, he's not in this.
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No, it's the other Jim Cummings.
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It also stars Chloe East, Robert Forster, Ricky Lindholm and Will Madden.
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It's about a stressed police officer who struggles not to give in to the paranoia that grips his small mountain town as bodies turn up after each full moon.
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But it's deeper than that.
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It also explores father-son and daughter-father relationships, alcoholism, divorce, burnout.
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It had a $2 million budget and made just $267 at the box office through its limited theatrical and VOD releases.
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It tells a 6.2 out of 10 on IMDb, a 90 % critics and 65 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, and a 3.3 out of 5 stars on Letterboxd.
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But we don't care about any of that because we're here to talk about what we thought of the Wolf of Snow Hollow.
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Exactly.
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We're here to tell you what to think about it.
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Not anybody else, just us.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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Well, we can do that now.
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You wanna just rate it right now?
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no, know.
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No, we can talk about it.
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OK.
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I'll start.
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Thank you.
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They shot in Utah during the snow, obviously.
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Snow hollow.
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Can you imagine?
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There's no snow.
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Anyways, the reason they chose Utah was so that they could get tax credits.
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It was budgetary, really.
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But yeah, they said if even though was the most money they've ever had to work with, they still, it was like not a very big budget, which $2 million like Hollywood standards is
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pretty small budget.
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So Cummings had said that he had to ask like a thousand favors just to make it happen.
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And on top of that, they ran into a lot of problems filming in Utah because of the snow.
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Like obviously you can't set up a dolly track and do a dolly shot.
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So they had to do everything kind of.
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by hand or still cam and then it was also like 14 degrees outside.
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So very cold, very difficult shoot, not very fun, but the producers had a joke that they said their next movie is going to be called Werewolf Beach and they're shooting in Hawaii.
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So I think that's funny.
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That is funny.
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Yeah, I cannot imagine being outside for 12 to 15 hours at a time in 14 degree weather having to act like everything is just fine.
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Yeah, that's my nightmare.
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Yeah.
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No thanks.
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It dips below 70 and I can't act like it's not the biggest inconvenience of my entire life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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This movie started as a podcast sort of he like recorded it in podcast version the script at least and He did it in what looked like a motel.
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There's a there's a YouTube video Called the wolf of snow hollow behind the scenes chapter one there on his YouTube.
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There are no follow-up Videos, there's no chapter two chapter three.
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Nothing.
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It's just this one
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Just chapter one, that's all we get.
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Yeah, it's 45 seconds long and it's him saying I'm about to start recording the podcast, the Wolf of Snow Hollow.
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And here's the equipment that you need to make big budget movies like Avatar.
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And he pulls out a tiny video cam microphone combo that he props up in a rolled up yoga mat.
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And then he sits down and starts recording.
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And that's the end of the video.
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Yeah, I read an article where he talked about like recording it all as a podcast so that producers would have a better idea of the tone and kind of what it was going to be.
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He also said that that's kind of how he writes is he'll act everything out and he'll just like have his laptop up with the script that he's written and basically just talk it out
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and do the scenes as every character and then he'll just make notes as he goes.
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Which is interesting.
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Yeah, I love it.
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Yeah, that's one way to do it, I suppose.
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And he had no formal acting training before he decided to act in his own movie.
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And I think he did a really good job.
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His deadpan is very, very good.
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Yeah, I think he did very well in this role.
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Personally, I hated his character, but he did a good job because I think, you know, that was kind of the point.
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Yeah, I don't think you're supposed to like him, but now I.
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Well.
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I suppose.
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But yeah, I mean, it was very much at its core a story about alcoholism and anger.
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Mm-hmm.
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But no, I think he did the dead pan really well.
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Like, like it was very funny to remind me of Napoleon Dynamite.
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Just very flat.
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Funny.
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was funny.
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It was funny.
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Okay, yeah.
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I didn't think it was that funny, to be honest.
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was cackling.
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I loved his deadpan.
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I feel like a lot of the...
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There were some moments that I thought were funny, but I feel like a lot of the humor was like him just yelling.
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And I don't like men yelling at all.
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So it wasn't for me.
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But that's not to say I didn't like the movie.
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It was just that.
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I went to a concert with Michelle once.
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You all know Michelle.
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Michelle, our dear friend.
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And there was a...
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They just took a second, the opening band just took a second to...
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In the middle of one of their songs to let everybody scream.
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Like that was just like...
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They're like, oh yeah, it's relief.
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It's like everybody get it out.
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We'll let it out.
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We're all gonna scream.
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And we did.
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And that was like really fun for me.
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I was like, oh my God, they're all screaming together.
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It so fun.
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It was really loud.
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And then when the concert was over, I was like, wasn't it so fun?
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I made myself scream.
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And she said the exact word for word thing you just said.
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I don't like when men scream.
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I don't.
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Yeah, I guess I just wasn't I was I wasn't thinking about it in that way.
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I was thinking about like, there's men screaming.
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I was like, I don't know.
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It's just funny that you both have now said that to me.
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Yeah, she gets me.
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No, think you not minding men screaming is probably a good sign.
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It's probably healthy, you know?
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You guys can all talk to my therapist about why I don't like it.
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It was safe screaming.
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We were in a safe environment and there was also women screaming.
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like, yeah, a different vibe than this where it was like, he literally said he likes the idea of public crash outs.
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that's kind of a lot of what this movie is because he's like, I think what they say and how they say it what they don't say, like says a lot about the person.
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Yeah, he said he in particular really likes watching Nick Cage crash out on screen.
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It's really good.
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So yeah, think that's, yeah, and I think that's a little bit of what he was projecting in this is that stress and that buildup of all of these different components hitting one
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person at the same time and how that bubbles over.
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So I get it.
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Yeah.
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They did a lot of sequence editing versus scene editing.
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It's like those like weird cuts where it goes back and forth between scenes.
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I feel like that worked a majority of the time.
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But occasionally it was a little distracting.
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I felt like kind of blue balled by like the going between the scenes so quickly.
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I really wanted there to be some sort of like resolution in the scene first before it switched around.
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But I do feel like it worked.
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And he did mention Jim Cummings did mention how
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I think he was like Fight Club.
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Does Fight Club do that too?
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I'm pretty sure he said Fight Club was the inspiration for that.
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I haven't seen Fight Club in 10 plus years.
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Yeah, I've never seen it, so I couldn't tell you.
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It's a movie.
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yeah, I feel like that type of editing took a minute to get used to, but then once I did, I did kind of like it.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, it kind of added to the chaos and almost the stress of it all.
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Yeah, no, absolutely.
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Yeah, and this movie was nothing if not stressful
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Yeah, you could definitely feel the character's
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Yeah.
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I also speaking of like the way it was like edited or whatever, I watched this on my phone while I was working and during the opening sequence, I kept flipping my phone over because
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I thought that it was playing upside down, but it was actually the scenes were upside down and the text was right side up.
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So I kept flipping it over and like, what the fuck is happening with my phone?
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Just please, can you play this right side up until I finally realized that the letters were the right side up?
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I'm sorry that happened to you.
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That's okay.
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Did you find this movie funny at all?
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At all?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I don't think it was like laugh out loud funny.
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I was cackling.
00:21:58
Yeah, I don't know.
00:22:00
That didn't translate to me.
00:22:04
But there were definitely moments I was like smiling or like doing the little nose breath laugh thing, you know?
00:22:09
Yeah, OK.
00:22:11
There were scenes throughout the film that I thought even the actors were trying not to break.
00:22:17
Okay.
00:22:18
Like the scene where everybody's around, God, what's his name?
00:22:23
Robert Forster.
00:22:25
He's like at the table and everybody's around him.
00:22:26
And he's like, I won't ask you all to pray with me or whatever.
00:22:29
That scene, it looks like everybody's like trying not to giggle.
00:22:34
I think that would make sense.
00:22:36
I think also Robert Forster was very beloved on set.
00:22:41
I heard nothing but amazing things and Jim Cummings even said they asked him on a whim because they were like, there's no way he's going to say yes to this.
00:22:50
Like we're nobodies.
00:22:52
And he was like, of course I want to do this.
00:22:53
It sounds great.
00:22:55
it was his last film too.
00:22:57
Yeah, I know.
00:23:01
Rest in peace.
00:23:02
Poor guy.
00:23:05
But no, yeah, if you watch it again anytime soon, just look at everybody around.
00:23:10
It looks like they're about to break.
00:23:12
I could see that.
00:23:13
That was one of them more funny parts.
00:23:17
Yeah, yeah.
00:23:19
And then it just kind of devolved into a very sad film.
00:23:23
like after his character passes.
00:23:25
Yeah, and the daughter's in the hospital and they're like yelling at each other and she has to like drag him into the house and yeah.
00:23:35
Jim Cummings actually said that he sat down with his brother who has been an AA at that time for about 10 years and basically just went through the relapse scene and how that was
00:23:49
gonna go.
00:23:49
And he said, is him drinking the Listerine?
00:23:53
Is that too much?
00:23:54
And his brother said, no, it's 16.5 % alcohol.
00:23:58
And just the fact that his brother knew that, he was like, my God, that's...
00:24:05
Yikes.
00:24:06
Yeah.
00:24:08
Oof.
00:24:11
There's also, he found out, apparently they put an ingredient in it that if you drink too much of it, you throw it up, like purposely for that reason, so.
00:24:20
Interesting.
00:24:21
Learned a lot about Listerine during this.
00:24:24
A time when I was like 19 years old, I had a UTI and I went into the doctor and...
00:24:31
What is that face?
00:24:33
just waiting to see where this goes.
00:24:37
Anyway, I had the antibiotics and they're like, OK, here are your antibiotics.
00:24:42
And the doctor's like, Thanksgiving's next week.
00:24:45
Are you going to drink?
00:24:46
And I'm like, I'm 19.
00:24:49
I'm not allowed to drink.
00:24:51
And he's like.
00:24:53
Are you are you drinking?
00:24:55
Because it's really important for me to know.
00:24:56
And I'm like, no, I'm not drinking.
00:24:58
What the hell?
00:24:58
I'm 19 years old.
00:24:59
And he's like, OK, well, if you change your mind and or, you know, if you change your mind.
00:25:07
you will vomit the second the alcohol hits your lips.
00:25:11
And that's what I learned.
00:25:13
I think it's flagell is used in alcoholism cases.
00:25:22
They put them on it because then if they relapse, if they drink, they vomit immediately.
00:25:26
So I wonder if it's the same drug, the same like component.
00:25:30
I doubt it, because people who drink alcohol can drink Listerine without.
00:25:37
If it's the moment it touches your lip, you know?
00:25:39
Like if you accidentally swallowed Listerine and then you're just throwing up everywhere.
00:25:44
no, but if you're saying that you drink a lot of it and then you'll throw it up, maybe they just put like a little bit in there or something.
00:25:50
I don't know.
00:25:52
Yeah.
00:25:53
I don't know.
00:25:55
That's good of the doctor to tell you that, I knew quite a few 19-year-olds who were drinking at Thanksgiving.
00:26:03
Not me, though.
00:26:07
I would never.
00:26:09
I genuinely did not have a drink until I was 21.
00:26:12
Well, except when my nun smuggled me off a boat to have a drink in Mexico once.
00:26:19
We're so different, you and I.
00:26:23
How should we find each other?
00:26:24
Yeah, by the time I got to my 21st birthday, I was like kind of over the bar scene.
00:26:30
I didn't even go out.
00:26:32
my god.
00:26:35
Crazy.
00:26:36
a lot to do in Iowa, let me tell you what.
00:26:38
I don't even know how I would have gotten into a bar.
00:26:44
A fake ID?
00:26:46
Not, I'm not telling people to do this.
00:26:50
Okay, I guess.
00:26:51
because I did go into a bar several times.
00:26:54
I just never drank.
00:26:57
No, I shouldn't actually say on a public podcast how I got my fake ID, but allegedly.
00:27:05
But I'll tell you off the podcast how I acquired that.
00:27:10
I don't have any siblings that could have given me theirs.
00:27:13
So.
00:27:15
Not to say that's what you were going to say, but.
00:27:17
It is a nice life hack, you know, if you have an older sibling.
00:27:20
Not to say that's, I would never, but allegedly if someone had an older sibling who was three years older and therefore turned 21 when you turned 18 and, you know, allegedly
00:27:35
their ID expired and you could use their old one, that would be a way that maybe an underage person could get into a bar.
00:27:44
that's not a fake ID.
00:27:45
That's a real ID.
00:27:47
That's true, it is a real idea, but it's, I'm, it's not lying.
00:27:51
Allegedly.
00:27:52
Allegedly not I didn't I would never But no no one no listen no one's saying that's what I did
00:28:06
But if one were to do that, I could see how that would work.
00:28:11
Yeah.
00:28:13
Anyways, let's talk more about the movie.
00:28:15
Yeah, we were talking about alcoholism Yeah, I don't know like that scene in particular where it just kind of devolved into a really sad fit like I was tearing up a little bit
00:28:25
just that like my my biological father is an alcoholic and it sort of forces a You know accelerated growing up on children when your parent is an addict of some kind and I think
00:28:36
Chloe East did a really good job of portraying that sort of like I Don't want to be the grown-up
00:28:40
I shouldn't have to be the grown up, but here I am being the fucking grown up.
00:28:43
I feel like she did a really good job there and it was like really powerful.
00:28:47
She did, yeah.
00:28:49
And for all our differences, we do have that in common.
00:28:54
So yeah, also, I mean, luckily I do feel I was for the most part shielded from that.
00:29:02
My mom kind of high-tailed it out of there, but with us in tow.
00:29:09
But yeah, yeah, she left us with our dad.
00:29:13
I'm kidding.
00:29:14
But yeah, she did a great job of.
00:29:17
of portraying that and I think any kid who has a parent who's suffered that, even if you were shielded, you can't be completely like, you know, at a certain point what's happening
00:29:29
and you're gonna touch on that at times.
00:29:32
So I do think that that was well done.
00:29:36
Yeah.
00:29:38
And then I loved the ending where like the very end ending where he like gives her everything that she needs to take care of herself and just kind of like lets it go a
00:29:48
little bit.
00:29:50
I will say I'm not.
00:29:51
that he can't hover and control everything about her.
00:29:56
yeah, I'm not like a huge fan of the like dads with shotguns trope like you're come near my daughter like that That's so dumb.
00:30:02
But this was like a fun like light Sort of adjustment to that trope.
00:30:07
felt like more of like a women empowerment version like Here's I'm just giving you the tools that you need to take care of yourself whether you wanna
00:30:15
Yeah, only women should have guns.
00:30:20
Thank you.
00:30:21
that's a gun control policy I can get behind.
00:30:25
None or only women.
00:30:27
yeah, none or only one.
00:30:28
It's my only two options.
00:30:32
Yeah, I also like that they kind of subverted the expectation that he's going to take over for his dad as sheriff and it's the only sane competent police officer instead, which I
00:30:49
did also like.
00:30:50
Like they very much showed the failings and the incompetence and the toxic masculinity that comes with the police force.
00:31:00
So.
00:31:01
appreciated that as well.
00:31:02
Yeah.
00:31:04
I mean, I don't know that necessarily it was like a commentary on that, but oh, okay, good.
00:31:12
Oh, good.
00:31:12
a little bit about how it can just be like a very horrible place for women.
00:31:19
And that's why he liked Ricky Lindholm so much who plays Detective Robson, who then becomes Sheriff because he's like, she's the character.
00:31:30
Like she did such a good job portraying this character in a way that made the audience empathize with her.
00:31:35
Like it's her in the audience and that's like kind of the journey.
00:31:38
Like everybody's kind of rooting for her and that's what he wanted.
00:31:42
Yeah, so he did kind of talk a little bit about that was intentional.
00:31:50
good.
00:31:51
I didn't want to him credit for it if it wasn't intentional, but...
00:31:54
if it was.
00:31:55
as...
00:31:57
Like I don't think he's like...
00:32:00
against cops or anything.
00:32:01
Like he also talks about how serial killers was a big inspiration for him and he read like all of John Douglas's books who, if you don't know, John Douglas is an author but he also
00:32:11
worked in the FBI.
00:32:12
He was one of the first ever criminal profilers.
00:32:15
He wrote the book Mindhunter which the Netflix series was based off of.
00:32:19
So yeah, so he like read all of his books and
00:32:23
was really interested in the serial killer aspect.
00:32:25
And so that's why we have the ending in this that we do, and it's not an actual werewolf.
00:32:31
It's just a guy.
00:32:32
Because he was like, I think that that's scary enough that we don't need a monster too.
00:32:38
But yeah, so I think he respects the detective work of it all.
00:32:43
But he said there's definitely a type of personality that goes into police force work that wants that glory and wants that like...
00:32:54
Right.
00:32:54
And so he said even the scene where, like, they all get, like, the police officers kind of get riled up and his character immediately grabs for his gun.
00:33:01
Like, that was even supposed to reflect how quickly things can be escalated, especially when you are given weapons.
00:33:09
And, like, your job is then to, like, exert that force on people who don't have anything.
00:33:16
Like, that's not healthy always.
00:33:18
So he did.
00:33:19
Yeah.
00:33:20
He talked about that in one article that I read.
00:33:21
So I was like...
00:33:22
Good.
00:33:23
Yeah, happy that it was intentional.
00:33:26
Yeah, I mean, add it to the list.
00:33:28
He talks about so many impactful, important concepts.
00:33:35
And this came out like as COVID hit.
00:33:39
So it was even like before the whole George Floyd thing.
00:33:43
Yeah, which I think they talked about in that same article, because he obviously filmed this before that happened.
00:33:51
And it was just released.
00:33:53
And they said, obviously, right now, things are getting a little bit, I guess that's being brought to the forefront more than it had been.
00:34:02
Yeah, dicey.
00:34:05
Fun.
00:34:06
Well, not fun, but you know what mean.
00:34:08
No.
00:34:12
Speaking of the like supernatural element, not the supernatural element, but the it's just a guy.
00:34:19
It took them three weeks to build the outfit.
00:34:22
And only two scenes in the entire film were VFX.
00:34:28
One was the breath when the wolf man stands up to his full height, his breath because he was breathing sort of out through the neck.
00:34:37
So they needed to take that out and
00:34:38
put it out through the werewolf's mouth and then in that same shot the victim's missing their arm.
00:34:45
That was one scene and then the second scene was the werewolf's ankles.
00:34:49
They sort of do like a weird like reverse ankle thing.
00:34:54
That's it.
00:34:54
That's all the VFX they use in the entire movie, which for a werewolf movie, I feel like the werewolf looks pretty good.
00:35:03
Usually the werewolf is not looking so great.
00:35:05
Yeah, I mean, I think it helped that it was.
00:35:08
Look, there's obviously no transformation scenes or anything like that.
00:35:12
It's just a guy in a suit.
00:35:14
So it had to kind of look like a guy in a suit.
00:35:18
And it worked.
00:35:20
Yeah.
00:35:21
it.
00:35:21
I was never not once taken out of the movie by...
00:35:24
my god, that world looks so stupid.
00:35:26
Yeah, no, I thought everything looked pretty good for it being practical effects.
00:35:32
Not even that, that made it sound like it looked good for being practical, it just looked good.
00:35:39
Yeah.
00:35:41
Did you, were you surprised that it was just a guy in a suit?
00:35:47
No, not really.
00:35:49
I did enjoy the way that he got to prove it though.
00:35:54
The like it felt like kind of a long con for them to go back and be like, hey, I need to return this item that was in my bag.
00:36:03
This isn't mine kind of thing.
00:36:07
It all kind of worked out very well and very like it was very what's the word I'm looking for?
00:36:12
Jim Cummings calls it evidence pornography?
00:36:15
Maybe that's what you're thinking of.
00:36:18
Like when you get that clue and everything comes together.
00:36:21
Yeah, no, it's like Satisfactory Satisfactory set that was all very Satisfying satisfying.
00:36:28
I got I got there.
00:36:29
It was very satisfying.
00:36:32
I mean, I never thought it was a werewolf.
00:36:35
Okay.
00:36:36
What I actually what I thought I really wanted it to be was him and he just just angry.
00:36:43
He's just kind of like I thought it was going in the direction of your monster.
00:36:47
got it, where he was attacking people.
00:36:50
yeah, he has actually like, conveniently on the full moon, fallen back into his alcoholism and he turns into this like, murderer.
00:37:00
Someone actually, he did a Reddit AMA where he talked about this movie.
00:37:05
We can link it in the description.
00:37:09
But someone commented and said, your teeth made for a very confusing red herring during this because they thought the same thing because even his teeth are like that.
00:37:18
Like they're pointed.
00:37:21
And he thought it was funny.
00:37:22
And he said, it didn't do me any favors when I was a kid either.
00:37:24
And I told everybody my birthday was on Halloween.
00:37:27
So.
00:37:28
my God.
00:37:30
Okay, you little Dracula.
00:37:31
Yeah, but yeah, that's interesting.
00:37:34
did, I think when like the movie first started, I was like, okay, it's going to be a werewolf movie like Wolf of Snow Hollow.
00:37:42
It zooms in on the wolf print, you know, I was kind of like, okay.
00:37:45
But then pretty quickly in the same vein, I was like, they're turning that on its head because typically in a werewolf movie, everybody thinks it's a killer.
00:37:54
And there's one guy who's like, it might be a werewolf.
00:37:57
And in this, was like everybody thought.
00:38:00
it was a wolf and then there's the one guy being like, it's just a guy.
00:38:03
Like, it's just a serial killer.
00:38:07
He's literally just a guy.
00:38:10
But yeah, I thought that it was clever.
00:38:11
I kind of like that it turned that on its head.
00:38:15
A lot of horror movies I think are more, you think that this could be a serial killer and then it turns out to be something supernatural.
00:38:21
So it was fun to see that reversed.
00:38:24
Yeah, fun.
00:38:27
Yeah, I liked it.
00:38:29
a fun little twist, twisty twist.
00:38:32
A little bit more about filming.
00:38:35
The entire montage of interrogations that happens in the movie was actually shot almost a year later, and they did it just in an office that was next door to their production
00:38:47
studio.
00:38:49
And then also just kind of two pieces they had to like put back in and film later.
00:38:55
But the shot of Officer Robson driving to the climax of the movie.
00:39:01
They did that very Saw style, where the car was parked and one of Jim Cummings friends was just shaking the car while they flashlights around it.
00:39:12
So I thought that was fun.
00:39:13
We'll call back to what, episode 10 where we talked about Saw?
00:39:18
It was.
00:39:21
Wow, Ripsaw 11 by the way.
00:39:22
I know we didn't do news today, but that happened and I've been mourning ever since.
00:39:27
Yeah.
00:39:28
Who knows, you may get another one.
00:39:29
I mean, 10 is plenty if you ask me, but.
00:39:33
think so too, but here's the thing.
00:39:36
It was like they made the first three that were all like pretty good.
00:39:42
And then they made four through nine, which all kind of sucked.
00:39:45
then, just like, you know, I'm saw apologist.
00:39:49
I'm not saying they suck.
00:39:51
I'll watch them any day, but they weren't as good, right?
00:39:55
And then they find like no production issues whatsoever during all of those shitty sequels.
00:39:59
And then they make Saw 10, which was genuinely very good.
00:40:03
It was going back to like what we had at the beginning.
00:40:06
And now all of a sudden there's problems.
00:40:08
You motherfuckers.
00:40:11
Right when it reignited my love and I wanted more, they ruined it.
00:40:17
Bastards.
00:40:19
That's true.
00:40:20
It could just be in limbo for a while and eventually it happens.
00:40:23
But I think people kind of wanted it to be.
00:40:28
a follow up to 10 and if it takes too long like that won't be possible so it's yeah.
00:40:35
It's just a sad day for Saw fans everywhere.
00:40:38
Yeah.
00:40:40
Tune in to episode 375 of Killer Q's podcast where we announce...
00:40:46
S'all 11, back on the table, baby!
00:40:48
in production.
00:40:50
Alright, do you have any other fun facts?
00:40:53
Not really, there was not a whole lot about this one.
00:40:56
Yeah, it's always hard when it's a low budget, kind of indie style film that didn't get a wide release.
00:41:03
Sometimes there's not always.
00:41:06
as much.
00:41:08
Yeah, that's okay though.
00:41:11
Yeah.
00:41:12
Let's read it.
00:41:14
Okay.
00:41:15
Alright, how scary did you think it was?
00:41:18
I gave it a .5 out of 5.
00:41:21
forgot we can do that.
00:41:22
Yeah, I think it's like a little, it was just the tone of it was kind of a little bit more light, you know?
00:41:30
What did you give it?
00:41:32
I gave it a 1.5.
00:41:33
I don't think this movie was scary, but it did give me pretty significant anxiety.
00:41:39
Anxiety about aging parents, anxiety about relationships with your kids as they become adults, anxiety about work and burnout.
00:41:49
Just like a lot of the human aspects of it.
00:41:51
The were like the werewolf film, like the human aspect of the werewolf film.
00:41:55
They were just anxiety inducing.
00:41:57
So I put that under scary.
00:41:59
That's
00:42:01
How sexy did you think it was?
00:42:04
I gave it a two for just for the vibes, like 90s detective vibes.
00:42:11
you know, kind of makes me think of Martin Short and Hamish Abernathy in like the snow, you know?
00:42:22
Sure.
00:42:22
Yeah.
00:42:23
Thanks.
00:42:26
Aren't they in like a detective show together?
00:42:28
Like, is that what it's called?
00:42:31
Martin Short is not in True Detective.
00:42:34
Not with Woody Harrelson.
00:42:35
That's Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson who are in the first season.
00:42:39
you're right.
00:42:40
Okay, well, yeah, but they're both in it.
00:42:42
I have seen like four episodes the first season, so I didn't know Martin Short was in it.
00:42:47
But yeah, I know it's an anthology.
00:42:49
They do like different actors every season, Okay.
00:42:54
Well, I knew he was in, like, Only Murders in the Building.
00:42:57
That is not who I'm talking about.
00:43:03
That's Martin Short.
00:43:07
Who am I talking about?
00:43:10
I'm talking about the guy from The Hobbit.
00:43:12
Martin Freeman?
00:43:13
Martin Freeman.
00:43:15
Thank you.
00:43:17
He's inter-detective.
00:43:18
That makes more sense to me.
00:43:23
I was like, I don't think he is in that, but.
00:43:30
I don't think he was.
00:43:33
He was in the TV series Fargo.
00:43:37
Okay, I was like, that makes much more sense because he cited Fargo as an inspiration for this movie, so.
00:43:45
Yeah, there you go.
00:43:46
wow.
00:43:46
OK, there you go.
00:43:47
Maybe that's what I was thinking of is true detective in the snow.
00:43:51
Fargo.
00:43:52
No, True Detective, the season I've seen was not in the snow.
00:43:57
was like Louisiana summer.
00:43:59
I think I just don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
00:44:02
I don't think you've ever seen True Detective.
00:44:06
Great.
00:44:07
But those are the vibes I'm looking for.
00:44:10
90s detectives.
00:44:13
Okay?
00:44:14
Okay.
00:44:16
Thank you.
00:44:17
How sexy did you think Wolf of Snow Hollow was?
00:44:24
Okay.
00:44:26
the vibes of these detectives were not sexy.
00:44:32
At all.
00:44:33
It felt cold and bumbling.
00:44:37
All the people were just bumbling idiots.
00:44:39
didn't feel any sexual attraction to them.
00:44:43
And you'd think, like, wolf, that's sexy.
00:44:46
No, this guy's a weird big, big, big weirdo creep.
00:44:50
So not sexy.
00:44:52
It didn't do it for me at all, I'm so sorry.
00:44:55
I'm just getting soft in my old age.
00:44:57
think anything will harden me up.
00:45:04
God.
00:45:05
Desperate is another word you use.
00:45:09
How...
00:45:09
it's your turn.
00:45:10
It's my turn.
00:45:11
How fucked up did you think it was?
00:45:13
I gave it a 1.5.
00:45:16
half a point for him stealing the genitals off of a victim.
00:45:23
That was weird.
00:45:27
And then 0.5 for the three year old.
00:45:30
Not ideal.
00:45:32
Yeah.
00:45:34
And I've had a change of heart after Nosferatu.
00:45:37
I said, no more killing kids.
00:45:38
We've done enough.
00:45:41
we're good.
00:45:42
We're good now.
00:45:42
that.
00:45:43
Yeah.
00:45:44
Yeah.
00:45:45
No more after that one.
00:45:47
I gave it a two for that and then just really like the emotionality of it all.
00:45:54
Like the gore wasn't excessive.
00:45:57
It's just, you know, the vibes.
00:46:01
Yeah, the vibes were fucked up.
00:46:03
Yeah.
00:46:04
Alright, overall, what did you think of our friend Anitra's pick of the Wolf of Snow Hollow?
00:46:11
I really like this.
00:46:12
I would watch it again.
00:46:13
I think it's a really great indie in like vibes and in practice film.
00:46:18
I would recommend it just about anyone as just like a fun little detective-y werewolf-y movie.
00:46:25
It had a great story and a fun and accessible twist.
00:46:29
I thought it was funny.
00:46:30
I thought it was hilarious.
00:46:31
I was laughing the whole time.
00:46:32
I give it a 3.5.
00:46:34
Okay.
00:46:36
Yeah, I liked it.
00:46:38
What are you?
00:46:39
really thought your score was gonna be higher than mine.
00:46:43
But we have the same score.
00:46:47
I don't know, you just didn't really say anything negative about it at all.
00:46:51
So I was like, maybe hers is gonna be like a four or 4.5 or something.
00:46:56
But yeah, I gave it a 3.5 as well.
00:47:00
It is it's a good movie.
00:47:01
It's a fun watch.
00:47:02
And again, I like the ending.
00:47:03
I think it's fun that it's just a guy.
00:47:07
The reveal of it was really well done.
00:47:09
I came to really like the editing of the chaos and everything.
00:47:13
But yeah, it wasn't as funny as I wanted it to be and I just, I really hated the main character so much.
00:47:21
I hated him.
00:47:22
I hated watching him.
00:47:23
I hated every time he opened his mouth.
00:47:25
I hated him yelling.
00:47:27
But that's personal issues that I'm working towards.
00:47:31
So those are the parts that I was like not as in love with it.
00:47:36
But I get why it was there too.
00:47:39
I'm surprised I found it funnier than you did.
00:47:41
That's usually not our vibes.
00:47:44
Yeah, I don't know what it was.
00:47:48
I thought it was so funny.
00:47:50
think it was maybe just because I didn't like the main guy so much.
00:47:54
That like even when he was supposed to be like making jokes, I was like, well not really making jokes, but like funny moments.
00:48:01
was just not, I don't know.
00:48:03
I don't know.
00:48:04
Weird.
00:48:06
This is your menu.
00:48:08
his...
00:48:09
Well, no, I still understand it's supposed to be a comedy.
00:48:14
I also thought the first time I watched Napoleon Dynamite, I didn't think it was funny either.
00:48:19
Yeah, so maybe I just need to give it a re-watch and then I'll be laughing out loud.
00:48:25
No, this is the first time I watched it.
00:48:28
so you just watched it before I asked you had you watched it, but it was the one time.
00:48:33
Got it, okay.
00:48:34
I thought you had watched it prior to this.
00:48:37
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
00:49:01
winter midday movies.
00:49:03
I like it.
00:49:05
Have fun.
00:49:05
you survive?
00:49:08
yeah.
00:49:09
Well...
00:49:11
Okay.
00:49:13
I'm just, I'm, and I say that on vibes alone.
00:49:18
Yeah, I'm living.
00:49:20
like you live.
00:49:22
Yeah, I'm not leaving my house in the cold.
00:49:25
That's so valid.
00:49:27
So I'm not getting murdered.
00:49:29
And if that guy kept talking to me, I'd punch him in the fucking mouth.
00:49:33
That would probably make him want to kill you more.
00:49:36
Not if I kill him first.
00:49:38
Sucks.
00:49:39
Bitch.
00:49:41
Get fucked.
00:49:42
Get wrecked.
00:49:44
Don't talk to me.
00:49:45
And my kid.
00:49:46
Leave me and my kid alone, bitch.
00:49:48
Hate him.
00:49:49
Yeah.
00:49:50
How about you?
00:49:52
Yeah, I don't know.
00:49:52
It feels like kind of like 50-50, right?
00:49:54
Because he's just a guy.
00:49:56
He's just a serial killer.
00:49:59
And I've never...
00:50:01
Yeah, I've never been serial killed.
00:50:03
So I think I have that going for me.
00:50:06
So far, so good.
00:50:09
But have I ever come into contact with a serial killer?
00:50:12
I don't know.
00:50:13
I bet statistically you have.
00:50:15
Yeah, but have I ever like spoken to one?
00:50:17
I bet you have, hey Google.
00:50:19
What percentage of the population is serial killers?
00:50:22
There's only three to four thousand.
00:50:25
Is that the number three?
00:50:26
Like there's only three active serial killers or are there three thousand to four thousand?
00:50:32
There's not that many serial killers.
00:50:33
I thought there'd be
00:50:34
Yeah, I don't think that there's a lot of them, so I don't think my chances are super high.
00:50:40
Mm-hmm.
00:50:42
Oh my god, there's only 25 to 50 active in the United States That's an average of 37.5.
00:50:48
There's 210 million registered drivers in the United States, which is 86 % of adults
00:50:55
I don't think we have talked to a serial killer.
00:50:57
What does the drivers have to do with cereal guts?
00:51:00
it's just like how, I don't know, just how many people are in it, a rough estimate of how many people.
00:51:05
Okay.
00:51:07
yeah, if there's only 25 to 50 at any given time, I do live in a highly populated area.
00:51:14
However, I don't go into highly populated places that much.
00:51:21
I'm saying my chances are probably higher because I live in a city with 3 million people, you know what I mean?
00:51:27
But also, I don't think that your chances would be higher because I don't think a lot of the serial killing is happening in highly populated areas.
00:51:34
Do you know how many seriourgulars have been in LA?
00:51:37
a lot?
00:51:37
Is it a lot?
00:51:39
My friend's dad caught the Night Stalker!
00:51:42
That's how close to proximity I am to a serial killer.
00:51:45
Yeah, back in the 70s there were a lot more.
00:51:50
So yeah, I do think my chances do go up.
00:51:54
Okay.
00:51:55
But I kind of stick to myself.
00:52:00
I don't really talk to people I don't know.
00:52:02
So I don't think I've ever talked to a serial killer.
00:52:05
Yeah, that's fair.
00:52:07
Unless it's like a checkout person or something.
00:52:11
I don't know.
00:52:11
I don't know.
00:52:12
But I'm going to say because I've never been serial killed, I'm surviving.
00:52:15
Okay, that's That's good logic.
00:52:20
I think so.
00:52:22
for our fake scenarios.
00:52:24
Thank you.
00:52:27
Cool, I'm glad we live.
00:52:29
Me too!
00:52:30
We live to die another day.
00:52:32
Yeah.
00:52:33
Alright.
00:52:34
This was fun.
00:52:34
Thank you again to Anitra for suggesting this movie.
00:52:38
I'm glad we finally got around to watching it.
00:52:40
Me too.
00:52:41
Very fun.
00:52:45
You've already seen the one of the movies we're watching next week.
00:52:52
So I don't think you really need to predict it.
00:52:58
Yeah, we're yes.
00:53:00
Hooray!
00:53:02
Next week we're going to be talking about the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre as well as the 2003 remake.
00:53:11
Sick.
00:53:13
I think it's technically a remake, right?
00:53:15
Yeah.
00:53:16
Just making sure it's not like a re-quill or something like that.
00:53:18
might be.
00:53:19
It's been, I probably last time I watched it was like 2005, so.
00:53:23
my God, it's been out that long.
00:53:26
2003 I said it yeah that's okay yeah we're gonna be talking about both of them I feel like you know if you've seen one Texas chainsaw massacre you you haven't seen them all but like
00:53:40
you get the concept
00:53:41
do get the concept and I've played the game.
00:53:43
Exactly.
00:53:44
You know.
00:53:45
which we moved on to from too fast, I think.
00:53:48
Bubba's gonna have a chainsaw.
00:53:52
Yeah, the game, yeah, I don't know.
00:53:53
was a...
00:53:56
I don't know if I had fun.
00:53:59
Hmm, okay.
00:54:01
I liked it.
00:54:03
It was like fresh DPD without the sweats.
00:54:07
Yeah, but now there's...
00:54:10
There's sweats again.
00:54:11
Uh-huh.
00:54:14
Okay, well we can just get a full lobby.
00:54:15
And then like, then there won't be sweats unless we're the sweats.
00:54:19
Plot twist, we are the sweats.
00:54:21
where are the sweats?
00:54:24
Yeah, I would play the game again, sure.
00:54:26
Well, great.
00:54:27
We can talk more about it in the next episode of the Killer Hades podcast.
00:54:31
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00:54:32
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00:54:33
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