👻 ‘Nosferatu’ now streaming: https://tinyurl.com/v5bs77f3
👻 ‘Opus’ single release ft. John Malkovich: https://tinyurl.com/dhfp8syf
👻 ‘Last of Us’ likely to be 4 seasons: https://tinyurl.com/yp7avf5t
👻 Diablo Cody producing ‘Forbidden Fruits’: https://deadline.com/2025/02/diablo-cody-meredith-alloway-forbidden-fruits-lily-houghton-1236288388/
👻 Amazon MGM producing ‘Taylor Lautner: Werewolf Hunter’: https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/taylor-lautner-werewolf-hunter-tv-series-amazon-mgm-studios-1236305182/
👻 ‘Borderline’ trailer: https://youtu.be/ORHBgSvX_24
👻 ‘The Monkey’ screening in churches: https://movieweb.com/the-monkey-screening-in-churches/
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In this engaging conversation, the hosts celebrate Valentine's Day while diving into the latest film news, including exciting announcements and trailers. They discuss the upcoming film 'Mandy,' starring Nicolas Cage, exploring its unique blend of horror and humor, as well as its inspirations and the director's background. The conversation also touches on Taylor Lautner's new role and innovative marketing strategies for films, alongside a broader discussion about superhero movies and their evolution. In this conversation, Cassidy and Kd delve into various aspects of the film 'Mandy,' discussing its connections to heavy metal culture, fun facts about the production, and the unique setting that enhances the story. They explore the storytelling techniques employed by director Panos Cosmatos, the performance of Nicolas Cage, and the pacing issues that affect the film's overall impact. They delve into the horror elements, rating the film's effectiveness in evoking fear, and analyze the aesthetic choices made by the filmmakers. The discussion also touches on character development, emotional responses, and critiques of storytelling and world-building. Ultimately, they share their final ratings and impressions, reflecting on the film's strengths and weaknesses while engaging with their audience about future movie selections.
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Hello?
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Hello.
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Happy Tuesday.
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Tuesday!
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Actually, happy Valentine's Day.
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That's true, we are recording this on Valentine's Day.
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A little date, if you will.
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Yeah.
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If you're listening to this, though, I hope you had a good Valentine's Day.
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Or Galentine's Day.
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or Friday.
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Or Friday.
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Exactly.
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Well, we have another love story to talk about today.
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Mandy.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But first, news.
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News first.
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And I'll kick us off with a bunch of little ones.
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A lot of little news.
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First, Nosferatu is going to be streaming on Peacock starting next week.
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Yep.
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The A24 horror musical Opus released its first song on all streaming platforms today.
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It's a pop song called
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Dina Simone and features John Malkovich singing.
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Wow!
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And HBO executive Francesca Orzi teased a deadline that The Last of Us will run a total of four seasons.
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Okay.
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Those are the little newsies.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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All right, my first news.
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Diablo Cody, a la Lisa Frankenstein and Jennifer's body is going to be producing the upcoming witchy horror film Forbidden Fruits, directed by Meredith Aloe.
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It's a film adaptation of the stage play of the women came the beginning of sin and through her we all die by Lily Hawton.
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It's quite the title.
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Yeah, it's a big one.
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Quick synopsis, Free Eden employee Apple, who secretly runs a witchy femme cult in the basement of the mall store after hours, with fellow fruits Cherry and Fig.
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But when New Hire Pumpkin challenges their girl boss ways, the women are forced to face their own poisons or succumb to a bloody fate.
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I realized that that first sentence of the synopsis was a fragment.
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Yeah, sorry.
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That was my bad.
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I didn't even write that part.
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I stole that from the internet.
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Okay, I can just remove the who.
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Who?
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Yeah.
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They're all fruits.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Quick synopsis, free-eaten employee Apple secretly runs a witchy-femmed cult in the basement of the mall store after hours with fellow fruits, cherry and fig.
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But when new hire Pumpkin challenges their girl-boss ways, the women are forced to face their own poisons or succumb to a bloody fate.
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How fun.
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Yeah.
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stage show, I think.
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Yeah, I'm into it.
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Yeah, just with like a shorter name.
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Maybe.
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The name is this, it's a mouthful.
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It is.
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Yeah.
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Well, fun.
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We love Diablo Cody.
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay.
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My favorite news of the day, and I hadn't even heard your other one, but my favorite news of day, Taylor Lautner is going to be starring as himself or a character of himself, I'm
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not really sure, in an upcoming Amazon MGM Studios show called Taylor Lautner Werewolf Hunter.
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This is paraphrased, but Amazon has teased that the film will follow Taylor, who after having wrapped filming on the final Twilight film is approached by a secret society of
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werewolf trackers who need his unique expertise.
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Taylor continues to lead a double life as an actor and as a supernatural warrior, ultimately facing the question, what happens when your biggest role becomes your greatest
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enemy?
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It sounds so fun.
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It's so unserious.
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such a great idea.
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Very fun.
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Yeah, I'll be sad.
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That sounds like a blast.
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Yeah, and it's, it's one of the least, well, I guess none of them really were, I was gonna say one of the least controversial actors of the series, but really, they didn't have a
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whole lot of them.
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No.
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I can't even think of any.
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Yeah, I was...
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I'm kind of confused now.
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Well, that's why I ended up not saying that.
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I didn't say that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, that wasn't said.
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Anyway, but no, he's really cute.
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It also says something about like him finding love.
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So I wonder if his wife's gonna be in it.
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She's great.
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I like her.
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Yeah, she seems like a blast.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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What are your last two newses?
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Yeah, I'll do two newses because Katie doesn't know math, so we have to...
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We didn't plan this out very well, so I have two.
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I'll do them quickly.
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One magnet releasing, which is the horror branch of Magnolia Pictures, has debuted the trailer and poster for their upcoming film, Borderline.
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It's going to star the modern screen queen, Samara Weaving, and Ray Nicholson, who is just in Smile 2.
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Yeah.
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And basically, Ray Nicholson is going to play a dangerous stalker who is targeting Samara Weaving's character who is a famous pop star.
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Very smile too.
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Yeah, kind of.
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But I think more grounded.
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It's not, I don't think it's supernatural, but who's to say?
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Is it funny?
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okay.
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That makes sense.
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the trailer, full disclosure, but I have the link, so we'll link it because I am going to watch it.
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yeah, fun news there.
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And then my second one is also kind of marketing.
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Neon, upcoming Oz Perkins movie.
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Last time, you know, they did all the fun marketing for long legs.
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This time, I think they're trying to continue that trend of fun marketing.
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Okay.
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They're going to be making The Monkey available to screen in churches across the country.
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It's going to be the first movie to ever play simultaneously in theaters and in churches.
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And you can apply for your church to get a screening of it at godsbowlingstrikestonight.com.
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Only submissions from authorized religious institutions are going to be considered.
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But fun, you can watch the monkey at your church.
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If, you know, they apply.
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worked for the church for a minute.
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I worked for the Lutheran church.
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Wow, would you have applied?
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Yeah, that sounds like fun.
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Yeah.
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Pastor Bill, hello.
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I'm doing this.
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Yeah.
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It's not even like a religious theme, is it?
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It's more supernatural.
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It's about a toy.
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Yeah, I haven't read the short story that it's based on, so I don't know fully.
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But it is Oz Perkins and he loves, you know, religious horror, so who's to say?
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risky.
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I'll look at churches in my area, see if they'll be streaming it.
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I promise to see it there.
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That's so weird.
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Why?
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I don't understand.
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Cause it's a marketing ploy.
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Is it working?
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Are people talking about it?
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I haven't seen anybody talk about it.
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I think the site that I found it on, it had posted it like four minutes before we started filming.
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So it's very, very recent news.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So by the time you're listening to this, maybe it'll be more talked about.
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I don't know.
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We'll see.
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Wow, we're really ahead of the curve.
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Well, thanks.
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You're welcome.
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Should we talk about Mandy?
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Our requested movie?
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This was a request.
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Thank you, Michelle.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I can see why she would she would request this one.
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She said, I don't even really remember it that much.
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You should watch it.
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Wow, thanks.
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So cool.
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We've done a lot of Nicolas Cage.
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This is basically a Nicolas Cage horror movie podcast.
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Sure, yeah.
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Might as well be.
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What is Bobby?
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Okay, I'll give us a little summary.
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Mandy is a 2018 revenge action horror film starring Nicolas Cage, Linus Roach, and Andrea Reisenborough, directed by Panos Cosmatos and written by both Cosmatos and Aaron Stewart
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on.
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In the Pacific Northwest in 1983, outsiders Red Miller and Mandy Bloom lead a loving and peaceful existence when their pine scented haven is savagely destroyed by a cult led by
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the sadistic Jeremiah Sand.
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Red is catapulted into a
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Phantasmagoric Journey filled with bloody vengeance and laced with deadly fire.
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The movie had a six million dollar budget and grossed 1.7 million at the worldwide box office with a very limited cinematic release.
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It was released for just one day before it immediately being released on VOD.
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It has a 6.5 out of 10 on IMDB, a 3.6 out of 5 on Letterboxd and a 90 % critics and 68 % audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.
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A little bit of a spread between critics and audience.
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Yeah.
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I can see why.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, this definitely, I don't think this movie would be like everybody's cup of tea.
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Yeah, people either really loved it, and I'd say a majority of the people loved it, but the people who didn't love it hated it.
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Like really hated it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Skewed slightly towards people who loved it.
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But yeah.
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Yeesh.
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People are mean in their reviews of this movie.
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Yeah.
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Well, you'll have to wait and see what we thought of it.
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Or you could just fast forward to the end right now.
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Yeah, about probably like 45 minutes, 30 seconds, somewhere around there.
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Maybe 50 minutes.
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Yeah.
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But don't stay, please hang out with us for a bit.
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We got fun facts.
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We do.
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Can we start by saying though, this movie is a lot funnier than it had any business being.
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Yeah, that's why when you asked if it was a comedy, I was like, yeah, but it's not billed as a comedy anyway.
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Like, nobody says that it's a comedy, but like there's moments that had to be meant as comedic.
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I refuse to believe that they were accidentally funny.
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Yeah, the scene with the window and putting the window up and down.
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So fucking funny.
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The giant chainsaw.
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Just slowly pulling this chainsaw that's even bigger and bigger and bigger than...
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God.
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Yeah, this movie was hilarious.
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I laughed a lot.
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were some really good moments.
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And what was it, him lighting a cigarette with the flames of the decapitated head?
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Like, that's, that's funny.
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Yeah.
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my cigarette lighting horror story?
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No.
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well, I was lighting a cigarette and I was doing it like my ex at the time would always do it, which is with the stove, the gas stove.
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He would put the cigarette in his mouth, you know, and then light it.
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What he did, though, and I've watched him do this several times.
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I don't know why I didn't.
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don't know.
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Anyway, what he would do was he put a cigarette in his mouth and he go like this.
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and light it like he put his head to the side, know, and light it.
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What I did was I went straight down, burned all my eyelashes off.
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It was great.
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Why not just invest in a lighter?
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great, you just didn't use them.
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I don't know.
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Yikes.
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You know, you know how it is.
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I don't, but sure.
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No, well, that's how it was.
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Incredible.
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uh, yeah, it was a little bit more fun when Nick Cage did it on a flaming head.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Isn't that a band?
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Flaming Lips.
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That was close.
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Okay, yeah.
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Go for it.
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I was also just gonna say I watched a lot of interviews of the cast and the director and Panos Cosmatos looks nothing like a Panos Cosmatos.
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He looks like a Duck Dynasty.
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In the nicest way, I they all look great.
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But you know what mean?
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He's more like a Phil Robertson.
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if I'm being honest.
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wow, yeah.
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Thank you.
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camo hat and everything.
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Yeah.
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It's a look, I respect it.
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I'm into it, in fact.
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Yeah, that's your type.
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right, sure.
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My husband's got the rugged Duck Dynasty look about him.
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I don't think you should insult your husband like that, but okay.
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Anyway, yeah, he doesn't look like a panos.
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Cosmados.
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Yeah, I would agree with that statement.
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Yeah.
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According to the co-writer of this movie, they presented it at the Cannes Film Festival, Cosmatos described it as a film about the death of his parents.
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Yeah, I didn't get that either.
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But art is weird.
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Art expresses itself in interesting ways.
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Yeah, it does.
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And guess this movie's kind of a love story.
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Sure.
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that's like a thing about your parents.
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Yeah, maybe his mom died first and his dad just kind of lost himself and this was the personification of that.
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Instead, yeah, he killed a gang of bikers.
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Well...
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I'm kidding.
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Dramatization, for sure.
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We don't know.
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We don't know.
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He said that the film was inspired by his love of basically everything that he loved as a child.
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So.
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The fact's not on my list anymore.
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It's gone.
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I got it.
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He also said this movie was inspired by everything that he loved as a kid.
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Heavy Metal Magazine, Heavy Metal Music, horror, Fangoria.
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He said very specifically the cover art for horror films that he wasn't allowed to watch as a kid.
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I can kind of feel that.
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I get it.
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There were a lot of death metal references, heavy metal, maybe not death metal, but heavy metal references.
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Yeah, it feels, this movie feels metal.
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Yeah.
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It also feels kind of superhero-y.
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Maybe a little bit.
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could be a comic book story about...
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Red becoming a super, like his origin story.
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That's how it kind of feels to me.
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Sure.
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He loves comic books.
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Yeah, he does.
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He really does.
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He's played what?
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Three or four different Marvel characters.
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Which is so funny.
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I just love when they all, it's like the same, they just reuse the same actor in the same universe.
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Funny.
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he even got, he took his stage name from Luke Cage.
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Yes, he did.
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as a Marvel character if you didn't know.
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You didn't know that.
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First of all, I used to read comic books when I was a kid, shove that your pipe and smoke it.
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Gosh.
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I read mainly DC though, so I didn't know that, but.
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it, got it, thank you.
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You don't like Marvel.
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You like Batman?
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I don't like what it's become.
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I think superhero movies still can be really great, a la Spider-Verse.
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Those movies are incredible.
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But I think the MCU has kind of like dulled them a bit.
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It was just too much, too much fan service, too much like, oh, he's right behind me, isn't he?
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Kind of line.
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Like it just got to be too much for me.
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And I think that they just needed to take a break.
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and reevaluate, but they work at it because it's multi-billion dollar industry.
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gazillion D.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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they were making too much money doing it.
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And you know what?
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That's fine.
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People love them.
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It's not for me.
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I respect it.
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But yeah, there's a lot of superhero movies I like.
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Did you hear that the new Spider-Verse movie isn't coming out until 2029?
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I know.
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I can't.
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I can't.
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I need...
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You can't end it on a to be continued and then do that to us.
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Yeah, that was a little...
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I mean, I can't imagine how long it takes to make those, though.
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They're probably like rushing at that rate.
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Yeah.
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Anyway, I was going to use that fact to segue into something I want to talk about that has nothing to do with horror or anything.
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Great!
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Well, we weren't talking about it anyway, so we might as well.
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Yeah, so let's just continue on that trend.
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We were talking about heavy metal music and she wore a Motley Crue shirt.
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Mandy wore a Motley Crue shirt through a large part of her scenes in this film, which I was gonna bring up.
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Vince Neil, the lead singer of Motley Crue, his private jet crashed.
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It was very sad that the captain was killed.
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Respect to his family.
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But crashed into another private jet not too far from where I live.
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The other private jet was owned by Vince Vaughn.
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What?
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Two Vince's.
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Vince Neil and Vince Vaughn.
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I thought that was a very strange coincidence.
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That is.
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Anyway, I've just been needing to get that off my chest.
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Yeah, I'm glad that we could create a space for you to do that.
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Thank you so much.
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Anyway.
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Nice, thank you for sharing that.
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You're welcome.
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Should we talk more about the movie?
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I guess.
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We don't have to, This is our hour.
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We can talk about whatever we want.
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yeah, yeah, yeah.
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We won't do fan service like Marvel does.
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No, never.
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I watched this movie on Amazon x-ray.
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with the fun facts and stuff.
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Yeah, but it didn't have any fun facts.
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It was just the cast.
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But when the tiger popped up...
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Is he?
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What was the tiger's name?
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Lizzie.
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Lizzie the tiger.
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Lizzie.
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When the tiger popped up, it was credited.
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The tiger in real life, his name is Corfu.
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And the dog...
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The dog, the...
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I don't know what kind of dog it was.
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But the dog's name in real life is Lolita.
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Spelled kinda funny, but lolita.
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Yeah.
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I thought that was...
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fun.
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Yeah, me too.
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They also, Richard Brake, who plays the chemist, he said that in an early draft of the script, Lizzie, the tiger, was actually supposed to be a lizard, not a tiger.
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And then he arrived on set and Cosmatos was like, Cosmatos, sorry, was like, hey, by the way, Lizzie's a tiger now.
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And there was such a tiger there.
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Yeah, that's cute.
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It didn't look like there were any actors on screen when, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that the tiger was ever on screen with the actor.
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Was he?
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Or she?
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It?
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think it ever showed them side by side so I don't know if it was actually there I'm assuming if they told him it was yeah that he was there with the tiger but yeah it just
00:20:58
shows the tiger and then shows the eye it's like a cutaway I don't think it ever shows them side by side
00:21:02
yeah, yeah.
00:21:02
Which I thought was...
00:21:03
well, it was disappointing.
00:21:04
It would have been fun to have a tiger scene.
00:21:06
Like a tiger and actor.
00:21:09
Tigers on actors.
00:21:10
You know what I mean?
00:21:11
Yeah, if you're going to get a tiger, utilize it.
00:21:15
Yeah.
00:21:17
Also, did you recognize Richard Break?
00:21:19
He's been in another horror movie we talked about on the podcast.
00:21:22
No, but I recognize Alwyn Welsh last name from Watchers.
00:21:29
Mm-hmm.
00:21:30
She was in the Watchers.
00:21:32
Richard Brake.
00:21:34
Yeah.
00:21:35
No, I don't remember what he's from.
00:21:36
He did look familiar, but he kind of looks like Richard Branson.
00:21:39
Mm.
00:21:40
He played Frank in Barbarian.
00:21:44
The back, the mean guy.
00:21:46
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the bad guy.
00:21:48
Mm-hmm.
00:21:50
Way back.
00:21:51
Yeah, I've only seen that movie once.
00:21:53
The, when we watched it for the podcast?
00:21:56
That was episode seven, by the way.
00:21:58
Yeah, I wouldn't mind watching it again.
00:22:00
It was two years ago.
00:22:03
Okay.
00:22:05
Yeah, I know.
00:22:05
I know.
00:22:08
That was a given.
00:22:09
Yeah.
00:22:11
Yeah.
00:22:14
I got nothing.
00:22:17
I have so many facts, but they're all fucking convoluted.
00:22:19
I don't know how to like weave them together.
00:22:21
Here, I'll stop.
00:22:23
Yeah.
00:22:24
Yeah.
00:22:25
what?
00:22:26
Also, for those who are just listening, she gave like the most desperate pleading face.
00:22:32
That's why we started laughing.
00:22:33
But yeah, there's not a lot of good segues here for these, so just pop them off, go for it.
00:22:39
Okay, all right, I'm gonna pop off.
00:22:41
The film was not shot in the Pacific Northwest.
00:22:45
Hold on.
00:22:46
This is too loud.
00:22:47
I thought I could do it.
00:22:51
I put a piece of candy cane in my mouth and I thought that you would be able to hear it, but I could just feel it jiggling around in my teeth.
00:22:57
this film was not shot in the Pacific Northwest.
00:22:59
It was shot in Belgium.
00:23:02
And I did think that in some scenes they did a really good job portraying Pacific Northwest out of it.
00:23:06
Pacific Northwest has a very...
00:23:07
distinct vibe.
00:23:10
But what I love most and what I do think really felt PNW was the house.
00:23:17
Red's and Mandy's house that's like made of all windows was the coolest house, like rural Washington.
00:23:26
I just loved that house.
00:23:28
I want that house so bad.
00:23:30
And it was built by scratch.
00:23:31
The production team built that home from the ground up for the movie.
00:23:37
Ooh, I love that.
00:23:39
Yeah, it was a very cool looking house.
00:23:44
I don't think I'd put my bed in a nook of windows personally on the ground floor.
00:23:50
That feels crazy to me, but I'm also scared of getting murdered, so.
00:23:56
That's just where we're different, I guess.
00:23:59
Yeah.
00:24:01
I don't know.
00:24:01
It was so beautiful.
00:24:02
I would love a house with really big windows and that's a fun way to do it with lots of little windows, you know?
00:24:07
I've never seen a house like that before.
00:24:08
It really stuck out.
00:24:09
One of my favorite parts of the movie, just how cute it was, you know?
00:24:14
Yeah.
00:24:16
Also, look at this segue.
00:24:19
Nailed it.
00:24:21
In terms of the set, where it's set, now I'm stumbling over it.
00:24:25
I can't even get it out and I had a great segue.
00:24:27
man.
00:24:30
I know.
00:24:32
Leave it to me to fumble it.
00:24:33
But anyways, I mean, one scene Mandy says that they live near Crystal Lake, which I thought was a fun little nod to Friday the 13th.
00:24:42
Yeah, that one was cute.
00:24:44
Yeah.
00:24:46
Crystal Lake does not, that's not in the Pacific Northwest though, so that was also kind of East Coast.
00:24:52
Well, there might be another crystal lake.
00:24:56
True.
00:24:56
I mean, I think it was just kind of like a hee-hee, that at Fred at 13, not the actual crystal, you know, not the one that's actually in the movie.
00:25:05
Also, fun fact, Michelle, who requested this movie, dear friend of ours, she thought that it was in the Pacific Northwest.
00:25:14
And so there's a movie where they take a boat to New York City, Jason takes Manhattan.
00:25:20
And so she was very confused on the geography of how they would take a boat.
00:25:24
across the United States.
00:25:26
And I said, no, no, it's on the East Coast.
00:25:30
Yeah.
00:25:31
Yeah, most Americans wouldn't even bat an eyelash if they thought that it was set in the Pacific Northwest and they took a boat to New York City.
00:25:38
Just shout out to her Canadian education.
00:25:41
Yeah, she was, it wasn't connecting for her, I had to say.
00:25:46
No, Kim Crystal Lake is on the east.
00:25:52
Yeah, it does.
00:25:55
I could see how you would feel that.
00:25:57
Yeah.
00:25:58
One fun sort of thing, like the fact isn't like super fun.
00:26:02
I mean, it's fine.
00:26:03
But just kind of makes you think about movies and production.
00:26:07
The Cheddar Goblin commercial was directed by somebody else entirely.
00:26:11
It was directed by Casper Kelly, who directed the Adult Swim short Too Many Cooks from 2014.
00:26:16
That's just kind of a fun, like you don't really think about that.
00:26:19
You just think of all of the media that's created for the film is directed by the director of the film.
00:26:26
Yeah.
00:26:28
That was kind of like a fun, it just kind of reminded me of what's that rec.
00:26:33
VCR, rec, VCR.
00:26:35
What is it called?
00:26:36
What is the one?
00:26:37
It's, yes, thank you.
00:26:38
I would have gotten there eventually.
00:26:40
It reminds me of VHS where all the shorts are directed by different people.
00:26:42
Like you don't really think about having more than one director unless they're like co-directing.
00:26:47
You know what mean?
00:26:47
I don't know.
00:26:47
That was just kind of a fun little egg.
00:26:51
A little nugget of the production process.
00:26:55
Yeah, I do like that.
00:26:58
You can also see the cheddar goblin macaroni in Carruthers trailer.
00:27:03
When Red goes to get his weapon.
00:27:05
Yeah.
00:27:07
Fun little callback.
00:27:09
It's so fun, so fun.
00:27:12
Did you notice the title card of the film?
00:27:15
Like, yeah, I had I had this like out of body experience sort of when it showed up.
00:27:21
I was like, my god, are we only five minutes into this movie?
00:27:26
I was like, this has to, I have to have watched at least two hours of this.
00:27:30
And sure enough, hour and 15 minutes into the film.
00:27:34
Yeah, that yeah.
00:27:37
This is a long movie.
00:27:40
It's, yeah, you really gotta muscle your way through it.
00:27:44
It's a little too long.
00:27:46
It's a lot.
00:27:49
They could have, that one monologue alone could have been three minutes less.
00:27:56
He didn't blink.
00:27:58
Did you notice?
00:27:59
He didn't blink, not one time.
00:28:00
No.
00:28:02
Not even once.
00:28:03
Ew.
00:28:06
Yeah, I feel like you could have easily cut out 30 to 40 minutes of this movie and it wouldn't have made a difference.
00:28:14
how slow the camera moved sometimes and how long they sat looking at people and yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:21
Yeah.
00:28:23
I have some Nick Cage fun facts.
00:28:25
Okay.
00:28:27
One, he had an uncredited screaming coach named David Sellers, which I think is fun.
00:28:35
What could anybody possibly teach Nicolas Cage about screaming?
00:28:39
You know, I like a man who still has stuff to learn.
00:28:44
That's just not one of the things I would think of that he would need to be taught.
00:28:48
gonna do it a lot, I could see wanting someone there to like make sure you're doing it in a way that's not gonna harm your voice.
00:28:56
So I could see him wanting that.
00:28:59
Okay.
00:29:01
Yeah.
00:29:02
Yeah.
00:29:04
I like that.
00:29:05
Why was he credited?
00:29:06
That's rude.
00:29:08
I don't know.
00:29:10
Sometimes people don't fight for credits of it, you know?
00:29:13
Yeah.
00:29:14
you know, getting paid enough that they don't really care.
00:29:18
Can you hear them?
00:29:20
Hmm.
00:29:22
I can't.
00:29:23
It's very distracting.
00:29:25
Just kidding.
00:29:26
Okay, here we go.
00:29:28
Going back to the fun fact that we were just talking about, what was the fun fact that we were talking about before this?
00:29:33
Yeah, me neither.
00:29:33
Anyway, well, I was gonna segue.
00:29:35
Yeah, I was gonna segue into something.
00:29:38
How, no.
00:29:41
I don't remember.
00:29:44
Anyway, I was gonna segue into how they did a really great job of like portraying like drug induced, like just like visuals, you know?
00:29:59
Just that kind of like.
00:30:00
everything kind of blurs together.
00:30:02
Not that I have any experience with this, but you know, like everything's kind of blurring together and like, words are a little bit louder and deeper than maybe they need to be
00:30:08
like, I thought they did a really good job.
00:30:13
I mean, everything about this film was shot beautifully, but that specifically stood out to me is like, my god, that's actually very well done.
00:30:21
Yeah.
00:30:23
I wish I could add to the conversation, I'm so sorry.
00:30:26
Just like, yeah, you're right.
00:30:28
No, about like that specifically.
00:30:32
Nope.
00:30:32
I can keep going.
00:30:35
fun facts.
00:30:36
I just like was gonna add more about, you know, psychedelic drugs and stuff, but I don't have much experience with that if I'm being honest, so.
00:30:46
Not all of us do.
00:30:47
Yeah.
00:30:48
If you have experience with psychedelic drugs, please let us know if this felt accurate to you.
00:30:55
We won't tell anybody, don't worry.
00:30:56
Yeah, just put it on the internet for us to see.
00:31:00
Yeah, just say this is a joke before and then nobody can do anything about it.
00:31:03
Yeah, for legal purposes, this is a joke.
00:31:06
I once did psychedelic drugs.
00:31:09
Yeah, like that.
00:31:10
That's the format.
00:31:11
Yeah, perfect.
00:31:14
For legal purposes, this is a joke.
00:31:16
I did once take mushrooms, but I didn't take enough for it to be...
00:31:27
Jokingly, was fine.
00:31:28
It was fine.
00:31:29
Nice time.
00:31:30
Okay, yeah, if you had actually done that.
00:31:33
Yeah, if I had done it, I had a great time.
00:31:36
But I didn't.
00:31:38
so I wouldn't recommend it.
00:31:41
No, I'm kidding.
00:31:42
Don't do that.
00:31:43
Don't do drugs.
00:31:44
Don't do...
00:31:45
don't do...
00:31:46
hard drugs.
00:31:50
Anyway, the chainsaw fight, one of my favorite scenes that we've ever seen any movie ever.
00:31:56
That was so much fun.
00:31:58
It was all filmed in one night.
00:32:01
And I watched the interview where Panas Cosmatos was talking specifically about how much hell it was to shoot.
00:32:08
Yeah, a lot of the scenes that they did at night, like stuff lighting on fire, all of that were done over the course of one night and it was not fun.
00:32:16
They had to be very quick and yeesh.
00:32:20
That's a big scene to do in one night.
00:32:23
Yeah.
00:32:25
Very much.
00:32:27
Yeah.
00:32:28
What a fun kill though.
00:32:31
Yeah.
00:32:32
Yeah, there's some great bloody gory fun moments at the end.
00:32:38
Yeah, the third act is a really great payoff for having to sit through the first and second.
00:32:43
You know what mean?
00:32:47
Yeah.
00:32:49
I was pissed about that monologue until they gave me that third act.
00:32:52
was like, maybe that monologue wasn't so bad after all.
00:32:55
This is a great time.
00:32:59
It's interesting though because the kill scenes are very fun.
00:33:05
But then there's even like, sloggy moments in between them where it's just like him just walking through a tunnel for nine minutes and it's like, oh my god.
00:33:14
yeah.
00:33:14
Or him walking away from the church.
00:33:17
That just took way too long.
00:33:19
Yeah.
00:33:21
Well, and I was gonna save this for my like overall review thing, but there is a behind the scenes and deleted scenes documentary on YouTube.
00:33:31
We'll link it in the description.
00:33:32
But Panos says outright, he doesn't care about story.
00:33:39
So his stories are gonna be simple.
00:33:41
It's about how you tell the story.
00:33:42
That's what's important to him in movie making.
00:33:44
And I think that translates really well here.
00:33:47
He very obviously was focusing on the art of everything and not so much the story because the story is kind of basic.
00:33:53
It's revenge.
00:33:54
Somebody kills your wife, you're gonna go and kill them back.
00:33:57
Like it's just, you know, it's John Wick all over again.
00:34:00
human instead of a puppy.
00:34:03
Yeah, it's a puppy.
00:34:04
Worse.
00:34:05
Worse than a dog.
00:34:06
8 movies about a wife dying and a guy going on a revenge streak that you could have used and you chose John Wick instead.
00:34:12
That's crazy.
00:34:15
That's crazy.
00:34:16
It's not his wife!
00:34:18
dollar franchise, but it's a revenge story.
00:34:20
Somebody kills somebody and then you go and get revenge for it.
00:34:23
Yeah, well...
00:34:25
but but no, I think that that translated and I will give him he his goal was Accomplished so I will forgive some of the more sloggy Scenes because he was trying to make art and I
00:34:38
think he did a good job You know
00:34:42
I still think the pacing is not good.
00:34:45
If it's about how you tell the story, I don't think he told it to its full capacity.
00:34:50
Because I think the pacing is how you tell the story.
00:34:54
yeah.
00:34:56
Which I know I complain a lot about like, movies need to be an hour and a half, but this movie especially needed to be an hour and half.
00:35:05
was an hour and a half and then they just made the scenes take long.
00:35:09
You know what I mean?
00:35:10
Yeah.
00:35:12
One cute little detail in the story is that when Red has his 44 shirt, his favorite shirt ripped and he's like, that was my favorite shirt, which was so funny.
00:35:21
I died laughing.
00:35:23
Later in the movie, he's having a flashback about the first time he meets Mandy and he's wearing that shirt.
00:35:28
That's sad.
00:35:30
It is.
00:35:31
Very sad.
00:35:32
Yeah, we get the answer to Wyatt's favorite shirt.
00:35:37
Adorable.
00:35:39
Hmm.
00:35:40
Originally, Nick Cage has said that when Kazmaros approached him about the film, he wanted him to play Jeremiah Sand, the cult leader.
00:35:53
Oop, I don't like that.
00:35:54
Yeah, that was the original offer.
00:35:58
And Nick read the script and said he didn't want that.
00:36:02
He wanted to play Red instead.
00:36:05
And Panos told him, They did not reach an agreement.
00:36:11
And then a year later, Elijah Wood.
00:36:15
Who's a producer on the film, by the way?
00:36:16
Yes, yeah, not just randomly.
00:36:18
He had a part in this.
00:36:20
Can you imagine?
00:36:21
He just stepped in and was like, guys, I'll mediate this.
00:36:24
Let's make this work.
00:36:28
Yeah.
00:36:29
No, he's a producer on the film, though, and they met through him and kind of talked more about the themes of love and loss.
00:36:37
And after that conversation, Peno said that he felt confident that Cage should be read.
00:36:43
So that's how it came to be.
00:36:45
Super cute.
00:36:48
One thing that came up a lot in all of the like interviews and stuff that I was watching was that the cast felt extremely supported by Panos to do their job.
00:37:00
They felt very trusted.
00:37:02
They were able to, you know, sort of give him notes and say like, you know, as an actor, this is what I would recommend or whatever.
00:37:08
And they didn't have a lot of the like big studio interference.
00:37:12
Those are two things that
00:37:14
that several folks, Nick included, mentioned about, like just was one of the most positive experiences about working on this movie, which we talk about all the time.
00:37:22
We talk about how directors and studios should trust their actors and directors respectively.
00:37:28
So seems like that's the vibe of this film, which is nice.
00:37:33
Yeah, I like that.
00:37:34
Kind of on that note, Linus Roach, who played Jeremiah, he ended up playing Jeremiah Sand.
00:37:40
Yeah, his only reservation was about the scene where he appears nude.
00:37:47
In the original script, he was supposed to masturbate during that scene.
00:37:51
He does, he literally does.
00:37:52
This is the weirdest fact because he literally is masturbating.
00:37:56
Yeah, I think it was more explicit in the original script.
00:38:02
But yeah, he told Panos about that and Panos was like, I don't care about that scene.
00:38:06
We can cut it.
00:38:07
Like, that's fine.
00:38:08
If you don't want to do it, we don't have to do it.
00:38:10
So they cut it.
00:38:11
And then when they were approaching that scene to shoot, Roach changed his mind and he'd thought about it for a really long time.
00:38:17
And he decided, no, actually, let's let's keep it in.
00:38:20
Let's go.
00:38:20
Let's do it.
00:38:22
And he said he credited Margot Robbie.
00:38:25
appearing nude in the Wolf of Wall Street as a deciding factor for him changing his mind.
00:38:31
See, okay, just transparently, I read this whole fun fact already.
00:38:35
And I was on board until that last sentence.
00:38:38
That was a little like, you know, maybe I'm just like overthinking it, but that was like, why did a woman being naked in a movie make you comfortable to be naked in a movie?
00:38:48
That's, I don't know.
00:38:51
I think I'm overthinking.
00:38:53
yeah, I think you are.
00:38:54
Because I think it's more, I mean, maybe I'm putting my own intentions onto his thought process.
00:39:01
I don't know why that scene inspired him to do it.
00:39:04
But I could see it being like, wow, women are asked to do this a lot.
00:39:09
And they do it.
00:39:10
They're brave enough to like put themselves out there.
00:39:12
Why can't I?
00:39:13
It could have been that type of thought process.
00:39:16
Yeah.
00:39:19
Personally,
00:39:20
That scene inspired me to never be nude ever again, because I'll never look like that.
00:39:25
Fair, fair.
00:39:28
Yeah.
00:39:29
that's just a hee hee ha ha.
00:39:33
okay.
00:39:34
but I can imagine if it's Margot Robbie.
00:39:36
Yeah, it's her.
00:39:38
It's like a...
00:39:40
Yeah.
00:39:41
It's very much like a red flag for men, white flag for women movie, you know?
00:39:46
Yeah, I do.
00:39:47
Like Fight Club.
00:39:50
Yeah.
00:39:50
Psycho.
00:39:52
500 days of summer.
00:39:54
thought that was a band.
00:39:56
500 Days of Summer?
00:39:58
You've never seen that movie?
00:39:59
No.
00:40:01
Every day, it makes more and more sense why your favorite rom-com is...
00:40:05
Good luck, Chuck.
00:40:06
Because you've never seen a good one.
00:40:08
Ever.
00:40:09
It's crazy.
00:40:12
I saw She's the Man.
00:40:14
And you still say good luck Chuck over She's the Man.
00:40:18
Forth Lock Chuck has penguins and dolphins and a walrus.
00:40:22
Fifty-first dates?
00:40:23
I like fifty-first dates a lot.
00:40:25
It also has penguins and walrus and dolphins.
00:40:28
so it needs those elements for you to like it.
00:40:31
I guess so.
00:40:32
I wish it mattered if it was a good movie or not, but I guess not.
00:40:38
I do like 50 first dates, even though in hindsight, kind of creepy, but doesn't matter.
00:40:47
Still gonna like it.
00:40:48
Who cares?
00:40:50
Yeah.
00:40:52
Well, any other fun facts?
00:40:55
Think so?
00:40:57
Let's rate it.
00:40:58
Okay.
00:40:59
How scary did you think it was?
00:41:02
I give it a .5.
00:41:04
okay.
00:41:05
think it might have been a little bit higher.
00:41:09
But the whole like.
00:41:10
demonic biker gang thing.
00:41:12
It just kind of seemed a little silly to me, so I didn't, yeah, I don't know.
00:41:16
And then at the end it was so, like, over the top and ridiculous that it didn't scare me.
00:41:22
That's fair.
00:41:23
What about you?
00:41:25
I gave it two.
00:41:27
I was a little freaked out by it.
00:41:29
I don't know if it's because I watched it in the dark on a small screen under my comforter.
00:41:34
Yeah, that'll do it.
00:41:37
But I mean, I think it's actually, Johann Johannsson, the composer who also composed Arrival, by the way, does a very good job making horror movies horror.
00:41:50
If this movie did not have that soundtrack,
00:41:54
It would have been a comedy.
00:41:57
It would have been hilarious.
00:42:00
I mean, it was hilarious, but it would have been billed as a comedy had it had any other score.
00:42:06
But anyway, I think he does a really masterful job.
00:42:10
Did he is passed now.
00:42:11
And in fact, he's this movie is dedicated to him.
00:42:13
Mm-hmm.
00:42:16
Yeah, anyway, I think he does a really masterful job of making things atmospherically scary.
00:42:20
So I give it to you.
00:42:21
Nice.
00:42:23
How sexy did you think it was?
00:42:25
Two and a half.
00:42:27
Wow.
00:42:28
Yeah, the begging at the end was like really satisfying until it wasn't.
00:42:34
And then like the cage covered in blood was also very satisfying until it wasn't.
00:42:39
So I just kind of split it down the middle, know, two and a half.
00:42:43
Yeah.
00:42:43
Okay.
00:42:46
What about you?
00:42:47
I give it a 1.5, half a point for Nick Cage covered in blood, and then half a point for just like the colors and the vibe of it all, you know?
00:42:58
I like a colorful film.
00:43:00
Yeah, the lighting techniques that they use remind me a lot of I saw the TV glow.
00:43:07
Mm.
00:43:08
Yeah, I can see that.
00:43:10
Mm-hmm.
00:43:11
And kind of grainy.
00:43:12
yeah, grainy, like 80s, 90s.
00:43:15
Yeah.
00:43:17
Yeah.
00:43:17
that.
00:43:19
how fucked up did you think it was?
00:43:21
is it your turn to ask me a question?
00:43:23
Whose turn is it to ask a question?
00:43:25
You were correct the first time.
00:43:26
It is your turn.
00:43:27
Because I just asked you how sexy you thought it was.
00:43:30
Okay, you can answer now.
00:43:32
Okay, thank you.
00:43:34
I gave it a two out of five.
00:43:35
Because I think some of the kills are pretty fucked up.
00:43:39
And then honestly, almost a full point just for Mandy's death.
00:43:46
That was unnecessary.
00:43:47
Yeah, that was a lot.
00:43:49
What about you?
00:43:50
Yeah.
00:43:53
I didn't know where to talk about this.
00:43:55
So I'll just talk about it now.
00:43:56
But I was really hoping for a good little like burning alive scene at the end too, you know?
00:44:01
Maybe like a close-up of him.
00:44:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:44:05
I thought that that would be really good revenge.
00:44:06
Maybe a little expected, but the whole plot, mean, is pretty...
00:44:09
Other than like the Demon Biker gang, it was pretty expected.
00:44:14
But even without that, I mean, I still gave it a three.
00:44:17
It's one of the gorier movies we've watched.
00:44:19
A few things we haven't seen before.
00:44:20
A few things that we have seen before but not executed quite as explicitly.
00:44:25
So a three.
00:44:27
Yeah.
00:44:29
Well, overall, were you a lover or a hater of Mandy?
00:44:36
I don't think there's only two options.
00:44:38
I think there can be a middle ground.
00:44:39
I don't think that that's been portrayed very well.
00:44:41
I have a lot to say about this movie.
00:44:45
My heart told me I really liked it.
00:44:47
And there is a lot to love, but I did have a good bit of criticism about it too.
00:44:51
On a positive note, it was perfectly casted.
00:44:56
I think sometimes Nic Cage playing Nic Cage works and sometimes it doesn't.
00:45:00
In this one, it mostly worked.
00:45:02
Linus Roach as Jeremiah Sand was so, so, so good.
00:45:06
I loved him.
00:45:08
He was really scary.
00:45:09
The performance had a lot of depth.
00:45:12
It was also just a really beautifully shot movie.
00:45:16
I loved the unique lighting.
00:45:17
I loved the like PNW vibe.
00:45:19
The design of the Black Skulls was really like fun and just, you know.
00:45:25
Heavy Metal is exactly what I would use to describe them.
00:45:28
The blood work was really good.
00:45:30
The art and animation throughout was really good and kind of unique, stunning.
00:45:36
My complaints, just to sort of reiterate succinctly, actually I didn't really touch on this yet, there was kind of like a world building problem.
00:45:44
And again, I forgive this because it was not the director's goal to build a world and have a really fleshed out story.
00:45:52
Mm-hmm.
00:45:53
would have liked a little bit more like, what world are you living in where a demon biker gang and this cult are like real, you know what I mean?
00:46:02
The characters and like the ideas were fleshed out, but world building wasn't.
00:46:07
Anyway, and then, you know, the plot was very simple, which we talked about, but I'll forgive it.
00:46:15
Anyway, I could keep talking about this forever.
00:46:17
But anyway, I really liked it.
00:46:19
I gave it four.
00:46:20
So you did like it.
00:46:22
You said that there's a world in between and then you weren't really in between so...
00:46:27
Yeah, I guess.
00:46:30
I feel like a four and above is like more in the loving it.
00:46:34
Yeah.
00:46:35
Yeah.
00:46:36
It's fair.
00:46:38
Yeah.
00:46:39
How about you?
00:46:41
I am the world in between.
00:46:44
Truly.
00:46:45
I don't love this movie.
00:46:46
I don't hate this movie.
00:46:48
I give it a 3 out of 5.
00:46:50
Okay.
00:46:51
Kind of to reiterate a lot of what you said about what there is to like about it, I agree with.
00:46:57
I think it's a beautiful film.
00:46:58
There are so many shots of this that I would have as a poster or that could be an album cover, like just truly beautiful scenes and shots.
00:47:08
And I think it's fun.
00:47:09
Like the ending especially is very fun.
00:47:12
I love the kills.
00:47:12
I love the blood.
00:47:13
The gore is just over the top and a fun time.
00:47:16
Yeah.
00:47:18
But I docked it two points for my two biggest issues with this movie, which is one I've already mentioned, the pacing.
00:47:25
There's no reason this needs to be two hours long.
00:47:27
And I know I say that about a lot of movies, but it really is a critique of the pacing because midsummer is two and a half hours long.
00:47:33
That doesn't bother me because the pacing is correct.
00:47:35
So it's like it truly does make a difference.
00:47:38
And like what story you're telling, which this one, they're not really telling a story.
00:47:42
So it doesn't need to be that long.
00:47:46
And then my second biggest issue is that this has the biggest, like one of my least favorite tropes of all time, which is kill the girlfriend, wife, give the man a story.
00:47:54
Like that just does, I don't like it.
00:47:56
I think it's overused.
00:47:57
I think it's overdone.
00:47:57
I think we're over it.
00:47:59
We don't need to keep doing that.
00:48:01
It's boring.
00:48:01
It's lazy to me.
00:48:03
I hate it.
00:48:04
Yeah.
00:48:04
Yeah.
00:48:07
And they're not gonna stop!
00:48:08
They're not gonna stop, Katie!
00:48:09
Because this came out in 2018, and I've seen nine trailers for a film that's coming out this year that has the same fucking plot, so we're clearly not done with it.
00:48:19
And I hate it.
00:48:19
It's so boring.
00:48:22
Anyways, so I had to dock...
00:48:23
Yeah, I had to dock two points for that.
00:48:25
It's a three.
00:48:26
I'm kind of in the middle of the road.
00:48:27
Does your mind get changed at all knowing that the director's intention was not to tell a great story, it was to beautifully portray?
00:48:35
Not really, because I think the story matters when you're making a movie.
00:48:40
Whether you want it to or not, it does.
00:48:43
So yeah, that can be your intention and you can succeed at that intention, but that doesn't mean that it's going to change my mind about whether or not I liked it.
00:48:51
So I like a good story.
00:48:55
Sorry Panos.
00:48:56
But I do really love that he, you know, the actors felt supported and stuff.
00:49:00
He seems like a good director.
00:49:01
I'm not like, you know, that's fine.
00:49:03
He did what he set out to do.
00:49:04
So pleasing one person shouldn't matter.
00:49:07
Yeah, yeah.
00:49:11
this guy named Gregory T on Rotten Tomatoes said this really well.
00:49:15
This movie was surrealist without the depth.
00:49:18
Yeah.
00:49:19
Which I can feel it.
00:49:20
And I really like the surrealism of it all.
00:49:23
It was the lack of death.
00:49:25
Depth?
00:49:26
There was a lot of death.
00:49:27
The lack of depth.
00:49:29
Yeah, I agree.
00:49:32
Yeah, it's a movie that I think could have been really great.
00:49:36
Yeah, I didn't watch the deleted scenes.
00:49:37
didn't get that far into the behind the scenes thing.
00:49:40
But there are a few.
00:49:41
I wonder if that would have helped at all.
00:49:44
Not more movie, Jesus.
00:49:45
I know, seriously.
00:49:50
would you survive?
00:49:53
it would certainly appear not.
00:49:56
Just based on I'm not red and everyone else dies in the film, so.
00:50:01
Mm, okay.
00:50:03
I don't think so.
00:50:04
I don't think I live.
00:50:05
How about you?
00:50:09
See, I put myself as Red because I was like, imagine you're the main character, right?
00:50:15
So I was like, if my significant other was murdered.
00:50:20
Like, would I go on a rampage to kill everybody?
00:50:23
And I don't think I would, personally.
00:50:26
But I've never been in love, so who's to say what that would do to me?
00:50:29
I don't know.
00:50:31
You don't even first of all, how could you say that you've never been in love to my fucking face?
00:50:35
That's so rude.
00:50:37
Thank you.
00:50:38
in unrequited love.
00:50:44
my God.
00:50:46
No, I'm kidding.
00:50:47
I've been in love with every person I've been friends with and I have familial and platonic love.
00:50:52
I've never been in romantic love, I will say.
00:50:55
Except for to you, but you're married, so I have to suppress it.
00:51:02
But yeah, I think my trauma response is more of like shutting down, not taking action.
00:51:08
So I don't think that I would go on a rampage and I don't know how to forge a weapon.
00:51:13
So I don't think.
00:51:15
I would do that.
00:51:17
I think I would just like move and be sad for the rest of my life.
00:51:22
So you don't think that the cult finds you at some point later on for one reason or another?
00:51:29
I don't think so, because his whole obsession was Mandy.
00:51:32
Like, if they wanted him dead, they would have killed him.
00:51:34
You know?
00:51:35
Yeah, sure.
00:51:37
Yeah, you're gonna move away from that house?
00:51:38
Ugh.
00:51:39
I would, yeah, I couldn't live in the place where my partner died.
00:51:44
Yeah, I guess that's true.
00:51:45
That'd be so sad.
00:51:49
So yeah, I think on grounds that I just don't...
00:51:52
Because if I go on the rampage, I don't think I'm surviving.
00:51:54
I'm not equipped to go on a revenge rampage.
00:51:59
So...
00:51:59
So I think I just don't do that.
00:52:02
And I live a very sad life.
00:52:04
Yeah.
00:52:06
Well, at least you live, I guess.
00:52:08
Yeah.
00:52:10
Well.
00:52:11
Fun.
00:52:11
Big shout out to Michelle for suggesting this movie.
00:52:16
Yeah.
00:52:19
She really liked it.
00:52:21
I more liked it than didn't like it, you know, barely.
00:52:30
But I'm still not mad that I rewatched it.
00:52:33
I mean, parts of it, was, hit that 2X speed.
00:52:36
I didn't even, I didn't even do that, but.
00:52:38
Where did you watch it?
00:52:39
Shudder?
00:52:40
Shudder doesn't even have a 2X.
00:52:41
No, I watched it on Pluto TV.
00:52:45
It was free with ads.
00:52:47
Shout out Pluto.
00:52:49
I don't have Shutter anymore.
00:52:51
Yeah.
00:52:53
Nice.
00:52:56
Do you want to predict next week's movie?
00:52:58
Uh, no, because I've seen the trailer, so I feel like I don't have grounds to do so.
00:53:07
Um, yeah.
00:53:09
either, but I have seen the trailer.
00:53:11
We're gonna be watching The Gorge.
00:53:12
It's our new movie of the month.
00:53:14
We're actually gonna do this one that's a Apple TV film, not a theater movie.
00:53:22
Yeah, we strayed away from that, trying something a little bit different.
00:53:25
We'll see how it works out.
00:53:27
It's already getting decent reviews.
00:53:32
I'd still watch it even if it was bombing.
00:53:34
But yeah, we're gonna watch the gorge.
00:53:40
Trailer seems very...
00:53:43
I was gonna say spy kids, like two spies in love with each other.
00:53:48
But yeah, it seems like they're guarding the gorge.
00:53:52
Mm-hmm.
00:53:53
and then they fall in love.
00:53:55
Guess.
00:53:57
and then they go into the gorge.
00:53:59
Well, I don't know that they go into the gorge.
00:54:01
think something tries to come out of the gorge and it's a monster.
00:54:05
I thought he fell in and she went down to get him.
00:54:10
dear.
00:54:11
Do they fall in love from afar?
00:54:13
Because I know they're on opposite sides.
00:54:17
yeah.
00:54:19
Wow.
00:54:20
And then I think they go into the gorge and they see what's down there.
00:54:24
I feel I'm kind of thinking it's going to be like annihilation vibes.
00:54:29
Yeah.
00:54:32
That's kind of what I got from it.
00:54:33
But I don't know, because they don't really show the gorge actually in the trailer.
00:54:37
So when I first saw the trailer, said that it gave me vibe, or no, I don't even think we had seen the trailer.
00:54:44
I think we were just talking about the plot of it, because it was one of the movies being released this month.
00:54:50
I said it's giving, what did I say?
00:54:53
What's that movie where they're at the top of the tower?
00:54:57
Fall, yeah.
00:54:58
I was like, oh yeah, it's kind of like fall, where they're way up high.
00:55:03
But now I'm kind of getting.
00:55:05
Maze Runner vibes.
00:55:07
Did you ever see that movie?
00:55:09
Did I ever see that movie?
00:55:10
If it stars Dylan O'Brien, I've seen the movie.
00:55:15
And it's got that other girl that you love so much in it.
00:55:17
What's her name?
00:55:19
Yeah, I was going to say Kaia Gerber, but you're right.
00:55:21
She's not that good at that.
00:55:23
Her accent's not there yet, but that's okay.
00:55:25
I'm gonna forgive her because she's effy from skins and I love her till the day I die.
00:55:29
well, I think that's why I'm not her biggest fan is because she wasn't great and in Maze Runner and that movie was really important to me when it came out.
00:55:35
So yeah, me too.
00:55:38
Did you watch you watched Krull, though, right?
00:55:40
We watched that in Discord, the alligator movie.
00:55:43
She was her accent was much better in that.
00:55:45
She definitely fixed it.
00:55:48
Correct.
00:55:49
Yeah.
00:55:51
Anyway, but yeah, no, it's got, yeah, it's like that dark, really tall concrete structure, like, you know what I mean?
00:55:59
That's like, and they have to go inside and...
00:56:02
like if Thomas and Teresa were on opposite sides of the maze.
00:56:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:07
And there's a monster crawling around in there and.
00:56:10
Yeah, I can see that vibe.
00:56:13
Thanks, thanks.
00:56:14
It's Maze Runner all grown up.
00:56:17
can't wait.
00:56:18
with What's His Face and Anya Taylor Joy.
00:56:21
Miles Teller and Anya Taylor Joy.
00:56:23
And Sigourney Weaver.
00:56:23
Hell yeah, Sigourney Weaver.
00:56:26
Yeah.
00:56:28
Yeah, I'm interested.
00:56:30
It looks fun.
00:56:31
We're really keeping the theme of love this month.
00:56:34
Yeah, love.
00:56:35
Yay, love.
00:56:36
We love love.
00:56:38
We love love.
00:56:41
Even in our best of the bad episode.
00:56:43
Gay is gay.
00:56:44
So.
00:56:48
The of the month is love, clearly.
00:56:50
Look who I-
00:56:52
I guess we'll see you next Tuesday.
00:56:54
We will, yeah.
00:56:55
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00:57:13
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00:57:17
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00:57:21
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00:57:27
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00:57:36
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00:57:38
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00:57:39
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00:57:40
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00:57:41
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00:57:43
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