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In this episode, Kd and Cassidy celebrate the new year and discuss their most anticipated movies of 2025, including sequels and adaptations. They delve into Robert Eggers' adaptation of Nosferatu, exploring its themes, character development, and the unique challenges of remaking a classic horror film. The conversation highlights the film's reception, the performances of the cast, and the creative choices made by Eggers. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the making of the film 'Nosferatu', discussing the behind-the-scenes experiences of the cast, particularly focusing on the prosthetics and costuming used for Bill Skarsgard and the role of rats in the film. They also explore the balance between practical effects and CGI, and reflect on the dynamics of the cast, including Willem Dafoe and Lily Rose Depp, as well as their future projects. In this conversation, the hosts delve into the casting choices and character development in the film, discussing the implications of various actors' roles and the long journey of the film's production. They also explore the nostalgia and cultural references in film, particularly how classic characters like Nosferatu have influenced modern media, including popular shows like Spongebob. The discussion shifts to the intersection of comedy and controversy in modern media, highlighting how humor can be both offensive and insightful. Finally, they rate the film's impact in terms of its scariness and sexiness, revealing their personal reactions and interpretations of the film's themes. In this episode, Cassidy and Kd review the film 'Nosferatu', discussing its themes of sexiness, disturbing elements, character dynamics, and visual aesthetics. They explore the film's impact, accessibility issues with subtitles, and their overall impressions and ratings. The conversation also touches on character analysis and the dynamics between the main characters, leading to a discussion about the next film they will review.
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Hello.
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Hello.
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Happy Tuesday!
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Happy Tuesday.
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My god, that's right!
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This is our first episode of the new year!
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Well, it would have been.
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Technically, it should be.
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You know what?
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We got too caught up in the new year.
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What are you gonna do?
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That's alright.
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No one noticed, I'm sure.
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Yeah.
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That's fine.
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Sorry about that, but.
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one late episode is fine.
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Yeah.
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Can I say, real quick?
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We talked for like an hour before we started recording, so I should have mentioned this then, but I got this shirt.
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It's like a striped, blue and white shirt for anybody who's just listening to this.
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Anyways, it's actually a PJ set, but I got it because I was like, how cute.
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No, I look like the fucking Hamburglar.
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I don't know why.
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I thought - no, no, if you saw full body, it's matching shorts.
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Like I look like it's, yeah, I look like.
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Waldo's little sister.
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Is that why you turned off your camera to go do your light earlier?
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No, I just always turn it off.
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I don't know.
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I just imagined you weren't wearing any pants at all, so.
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That would make more sense.
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I'm not entirely sure that they're not like a little see-through, because again they're just like, like, pajamas.
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I didn't want you to get a full view of my granny panties through the shorts.
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Anyways.
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Anyways, anyways indeed, we're here to talk about Nosferatu.
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Yes.
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But first.
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Not news.
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Not news.
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last week, we talked about all the movies that are coming out in January.
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This week, we're going to talk about all the movies that we're looking forward to in 2025.
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Hell yeah.
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And I'm going first.
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Yeah, you're going first.
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Okay.
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I've got seven on my list.
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I mean, there's more.
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I pared it down a little.
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But these are the top seven that we know of.
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Because I'm sure there'll be a few announced.
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Anyways, starting off strong with Quiet Place Part 3.
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Which is still sort of like up in the air.
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It's the continuation of the original storyline, not a continuation of Quiet Place Day 1, which is the spin-off.
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Right.
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Which would be interesting because those kids are grown.
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So we'll see how they do that if they do it.
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Death of a Unicorn, we talked about because we just got the trailer of that.
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It's an upcoming A24 horror comedy with Jenna Ortega, Téa Leone, and Paul Rudd.
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Looks, I mean I tried to stay away from the trailer so I don't know if it looks funny or not, but the unicorn looks interesting.
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Could be, could be a slapper.
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Mm-hmm.
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Him.
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I'm just like kind of desperate for a good sports horror movie.
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We got Night Swim last January and that was terrible.
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So then we've got the ritual, which is based on true events and is supposedly about earth.
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I'm sorry, it supposedly is an authentic portrayal of Emma Schmidt, whose exorcism remains to this day, the most thoroughly documented and studied in American history.
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Hmm.
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Al Pacino in it, which he hasn't done much recently other than I think he's, is he the one that had the Shrek case, phone case Al Pacino?
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I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm obsessed.
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If you could tell me more,
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some older actor, director...
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I think he was Al Pacino...
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has a Shrek phone case, courtesy of his granddaughter or something.
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Anyway, he's in it.
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Dan Stevens is in it.
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And then Ashley Green from Twilight is in it, who plays Alice.
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And Patricia Heaton from Everybody Loves Raymond.
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Okay, nice.
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it's a fun little cast, little ensemble.
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All right.
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Three more I'm looking forward to.
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We have an untitled Anaconda film starring Jack Black and Paul Redd.
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See, I don't even like Paul Redd, but he's in two movies that I'm looking forward to, so maybe I do like him a little bit, subconsciously.
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Why do you not like pot red?
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I think it's his face.
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Interesting, that's what a lot of people do like about it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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She's just not for me.
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I do like that meme of him where he's like, look at us.
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Yeah, on hot ones.
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Who'd thought?
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Nice.
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Maybe I do like him.
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Maybe I just say that.
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I don't know.
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Anyway, two more.
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Vicious, which is Brian Bertino.
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He's Strangers, the original Strangers.
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I'm looking forward to that one because it's starring Dakota Fanning.
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And we also got a subpar 2024 horror film from her watchers.
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So hopefully she can make up for it with this new movie.
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Vicious.
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And last, I just threw this one in.
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It's called Night of the Zoo-pocalypse.
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It's a PG animated kids and family horror comedy about a meteor that crashes into a zoo and turns all the animals into zombies.
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Interesting.
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It is.
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There is a movie called Zoombies about zoo zombies.
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I wonder if they're related or if this is just a total ripoff.
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I think it's probably just the same concept, different direction is what it sounds like.
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cute.
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But yeah, I know thought that one was fun.
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That comes out in March.
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Very cool.
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I like it.
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So you had a lot of originals on there.
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I was finding mainly like...
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I'm not finding, but I guess I was more excited about some of the ones that were not original ideas.
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Yeah, I had one on my list that I was gonna talk about, but I knew you would, I didn't talk.
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you're allowed to be excited for the same movie that I am excited about.
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Okay, well I'm excited for 28 weeks later.
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Yeah, I just want it, because it could be good because sound quality has really improved over the last 20 years, so.
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I'm excited because it means you're gonna, I'm gonna force you to watch 28 Weeks Later, too.
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And then, yeah, yeah, there's another one.
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What movies are you excited about for 2025?
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I broke mine down into different categories.
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So some of the franchises that I'm looking forward to continuing 28 years later, obviously, the first trailer that we got, very well done.
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That's exactly how you do a horror trailer without spoiling anything.
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And I've had that like boats, boats thing stuck in my head since, so.
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And then we're also supposed to be getting Final Destination bloodlines.
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We haven't gotten a Final Destination movie in like, what, like 14 years or something like that?
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Like a crazy long time it's been.
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So I am excited for that because I am a slut for Final Destination movies.
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And then of course, Saw 11, hello.
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I don't even know why I like that series so much, but I do.
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And Saw 10, very good.
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So if that's any, I'm kind of hoping that they continue the story that was presented there.
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But yeah, I guess we'll see.
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And then in like remake reboot territory, Wolfman, a lovely one else.
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I'm trying not to get my hopes up because it's a Blumhouse and it's in January, which just spells trouble for me, but I'm really hoping.
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this redeems them and I'm wrong.
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Please, please let me be wrong.
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No, no.
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I refuse.
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That and then The Bride with Maggie Gyllenhaal about Frankenstein's bride.
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I'm excited for that adaptation as well.
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I don't think so.
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I think she's just in it.
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I can look it up.
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my god, you're right, it is.
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Written, directed, and produced by Maggie Gyllenhaal.
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my god, she's not even in it, nevermind, I'm an idiot.
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okay.
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I don't have a photographic memory, but I did remember seeing two columns, one column director, one column actors.
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And I remember seeing the bride and her being in the left column.
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I just didn't remember if that was like, she's starring or if it was director or what.
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Yeah, nice.
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That's exciting though.
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Yeah, that's like one of two Frankenstein movies we're getting this year.
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And I'm more excited for that one.
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Jacob Elordius Frankenstein, I don't really care about that.
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That seems not like a, I don't know.
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I don't like that casting.
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I want a weird little freak to play Frankenstein.
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You know what I mean?
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He's too attractive.
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Makeup can do a lot of things.
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Yeah, so we're about to talk about in this movie.
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anyways, those are the two like reboots, I guess, of classic Universal Monsters, which we're seeing kind of a awakening of that, which could be exciting.
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And then two adaptations from books that I'm excited for, The Monkey, obviously, that's coming out in February based on Staveon King novella short story, one of the two.
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something shorter than a book.
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Yeah, and then I'm also excited for Netflix's Fear Street Prom Queen, because I liked the first Fear Streets.
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Those were fun.
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That's based off of an R.L.
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Stine series.
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So I'm excited for those.
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And then finally, my originals that I'm excited for.
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You already touched on it, but Death of a Unicorn looks interesting.
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It looks weird.
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It looks funny.
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It's A24.
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It's probably going to be right up my alley.
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And then I'm also looking forward to
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Companion, which comes out this month.
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Yeah, Jack Quaid and Sophie Thatcher are in that, and it just looks interesting.
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They haven't really, like, they've given us enough in the trailer, but not enough for me to understand, like, what's happening, and I like that.
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I'm intrigued.
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So I'm excited about that one, and then finally, I'm excited for Ryan Coogler's doing a horror film called Sinners, starring Michael B.
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Jordan.
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Yeah, I know.
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And that is a little short summary.
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Trying to leave their troubled lives behind, twin brothers return to their hometown to start again, only to discover that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back.
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And it's supposed to take place in like the Jim Crow era, so I think there's gonna be like some elements to that as well.
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But it looks really interesting.
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There's already a trailer out for it and it looks good, so.
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Sounds paranormal.
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I'm interested in it.
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You don't even like paranormal.
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I can like paranormal.
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yet to be seen.
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I have said nice things about paranormal movies before.
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Name one nice thing.
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Say one nice thing about a paranormal movie right now.
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I loved oddity last year and you can't even deny that so yeah yeah fuck you fuck you
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Yeah, it was great.
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I'm so sad we didn't do an episode on it.
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I know, well, cause I didn't really like know anything about it.
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I had just seen previews before I went to see other movies that we were supposed to see, but nobody really talked about it that much.
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But I'm kind of hoping for that again this year.
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I think every year we get that with horror, where just a movie kind of drops out of the blue that you had no idea what it was about or like no really promotion at all.
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And you're like, wait, this movie kind of slaps.
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Yeah, that happened to me with an anime that we started watching last night called Dondodon.
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watching that last night and I was like, that's crazy.
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I thought you were watching Buffy.
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Well, Dylan wanted to watch something with me.
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I watched Buffy on my own time.
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Buffy's my Cassidy time.
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Don De Don is my, yes, is my Dylan time.
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Ugh, I hate that you have Dylan time.
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Well, see, the thing is...
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Yeah, yeah, I don't have a lot of it, but...
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Just kidding, love you Dylan.
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I guess.
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yeah, whatever.
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I hope he doesn't listen to this episode because I'm gonna talk about him.
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If the time comes, which it will.
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Great, I can't wait.
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Well, should we get into Nosferatu?
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Okay, let's do it.
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Okay, I will give a summary because that's my job.
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Yes.
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In the 1830s, estate agent Thomas Hutter travels to Transylvania for a fateful meeting with Count Orlok, a prospective client.
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In his absence, Hutter's new bride Ellen is left under the care of their friends, Friedrich and Anna Harding.
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Plagued by horrific visions and an increasing sense of dread, Ellen soon encounters an evil force that's far beyond her control.
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And spoiler alert, that force is Count Orlok.
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That's from Google.
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Most of that I added a little flair.
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This is Robert Eggers's adaptation of both Nosferatu, a symphony of horror from 1922 and the original Dracula novel from the 1890s.
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It stars Lily Rose Depp, Nicholas Holt, Willem Dafoe, Emma Corrin, Ralph Innocent, and Bill Skarsgård as the titular and titillating Count Orlok.
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It had an insane $50 million budget.
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And since its release on Christmas Day 2024, literally two weeks ago, it has already made back $56.2 million.
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This is Eggers's lowest rated film by critics, but his highest by audiences.
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On Rotten Tomatoes, it has an 87 % critic score and 75 % audience score and has a very solid 7.8 out of 10 on IMDb.
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Nice.
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Yeah, I was not surprised to hear this is this film is a little more catered to horror fans than maybe some of his other films have been.
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I would say, but.
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Yeah, I think it also...
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Maybe has it working against it that it's an adaptation of something else?
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Like the other horror movies that he's done were original work, so there was nothing really to compare them to, whereas this one I feel like there's always going to be those
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purists who are like, this is...
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this isn't the original.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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That's fair.
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There were a lot of I mean, since we're talking about it, there were a lot of shot for shot scenes in this from the movie from the 20s.
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Like the scene with him.
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Yes, yes, which I almost wish he had done something a little bit.
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Something shut the fuck up.
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I can make an
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You-
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gonna say it and then you said it first.
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But.
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But, but, but, but I think he did enough to still make it.
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A good adaptation.
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It's it's, you know, faithful to the original and all of the, you know, stands of the why silent films are why there are stands at whatever, you know, they can be happy with it and
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then all of the.
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New fans can be happy with it too.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, I was gonna get into this later, but I since we're talking about it now, that was kind of my biggest issue with the movie.
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And not to take anything away from it, I still really liked this movie.
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But yeah, I wish he had put more of himself into it.
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I am sure that there's people who really loved how faithful the adaptation was.
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But I wanted him to like keep the heart of it, but then...
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just do a little bit more, right?
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Because I think the changes that he did make were very, very good.
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And the changes that he made, like centering it about Ellen, making her call out to him at first, expanding the role of the Hardings, all of that, these additions that he did or
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expansions that he did, were where I've seen the most interesting discussions happening.
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Like those are the changes that actually created a conversation around this movie.
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Whereas like the rest of it was just like, yeah, that's Nosferatu.
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So that's why I'm like, man, I wish he just would have like done the fly with this.
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You know what I mean?
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Like the fly is like such a good, maybe the best horror remake because they kept the heart, but changed things, modernized it, made it different, made it interesting, created
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a new conversation while also
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pushing the limits of effects and gore and honestly, sexuality.
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Like all of the things that he did, they did in that movie, but like more, more.
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Yeah, I totally agree with like the modernization of the fly that really worked.
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This one I don't I don't know that like, and I know this isn't exactly what you meant.
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But like had they modernized the story at all?
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Yeah, it wouldn't have been as impactful for me at least I don't know what it is about.
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Yeah, you love you some period clothing.
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Holy shit.
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my god.
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Yeah, no, I don't think that aspect was needed.
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I think that works a little bit better in a sci-fi world.
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Like that, do think modernizing it works.
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This one, that's fine.
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Do a period piece.
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It's Eggers, I expect it.
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But yeah, I just, I don't know.
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think...
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with Ellen's character being at the forefront, the fact that she calls out to him, the fact that she's struggling so much with this decision and this very clear lust between the
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two characters, I think that that was just a perfect example of changing the narrative of the film.
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Because now we're talking about female sexuality and the societal pressure is to suppress that and be ashamed of that, the shame surrounding it.
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And that's...
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so much more interesting than just a vampire, you know what I mean?
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So I'm like, please do more of that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, but still very good.
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Still liked it.
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Not saying that.
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Duh.
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I'll be honest.
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I had not seen the original when I watched this movie and I didn't look up much about the plot or the cast or like who was playing who I knew Bill Scarborough was playing
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Nosferatu, but I didn't make the connection that Count Orlok and Nosferatu were the same person.
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That I didn't make that connection.
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So when I'm first looking at it and like this Orlok character comes on to this to the scene, I was like
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Who the fuck is that?
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Like I know, know, I know like, I know Willem Dafoe is in this, I know Nicholas Holt's in this, but like, who is that that's playing just totally unrecognizable as a human being?
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I didn't even think about that as someone who maybe is not familiar with the story coming into it and not knowing the...
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Because I think I went into watching the original knowing that already.
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So yeah, that would...
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That's really funny.
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didn't...
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Yeah, it took me a minute.
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But like all that to say, like there is not a whiff of Bill Skarsgard in that character at all.
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He is complete.
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I mean, maybe a little bit of the he's got a little bit of the like Pennywise forehead going on, but.
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He does, yeah, and we love every part of it.
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Yeah, yeah, but he's just totally unrecognizable and fucking terrifying.
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and hot.
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Yeah, I think if I, if someone said watch this movie, it's Nosferatu, and I had no idea who was in the cast at all, and at the end you were like, who played Count Orlok?
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I don't, I would not know that it was him.
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Maybe, maybe I could take a wild guess, but I would not be sure.
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It was.
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Very good.
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It was very good.
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Yes, he was incredible with that.
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I was watching a lot of the TikTok interviews.
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That's where I got most of my fun facts.
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It took three hours to just do hands and head alone for all the prosthetics and six hours to do the full body.
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And when I say full body, it was fucking full body that he said the only
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part of him that was not covered in paint and prosthetics was the soles of his feet.
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Even his palms, his wiener was a prosthetic.
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Yeah, you do see a prosthetic penis.
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my god, can I also say...
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There was a whole TikTok about someone.
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I wish I would have saved it because I wish I could link it or something.
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I think I like it refreshed and I missed it.
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But there was a creator basically talking about how she was like, everybody's talking about his penis.
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And I went to see the movie and I'm like, that's it?
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She's like, it's one second and it's so small.
00:22:02
And someone just commented like, my boy is dehydrated.
00:22:06
Like, give him a second.
00:22:09
I laughed.
00:22:10
up.
00:22:10
So hard at that.
00:22:15
my god, that's so funny.
00:22:16
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:18
But yeah, all prosthetics.
00:22:20
He did say in one interview, Bill were on a first name basis in my dreams, and he said that the finger pieces were the only part that were like really easy to take off so that
00:22:32
he could use the restroom.
00:22:35
Yeah, specifically he said so I can wipe my own ass, but I was gonna keep it family friendly for some reason.
00:22:42
yeah, family friendly.
00:22:44
105 episodes in, we're deciding now.
00:22:47
We're a clean, family-friendly show.
00:22:49
Yeah, no.
00:22:53
Yeah, he just kind of slid those off to wipe his booty.
00:22:58
Speaking of the penis prosthetic though, yeah, Nicholas Hold has that framed in his home.
00:23:04
Yeah, you can see it on his Instagram.
00:23:06
Yes.
00:23:07
It's...
00:23:09
yeah.
00:23:10
I mean, he was the one who had to be, you know, up close and personal with it.
00:23:14
Yeah, did you see the interview where they were talking about it?
00:23:18
Well, I think Nicholas Holt was talking about it.
00:23:20
Because yeah, he said that after the scene was done where Kevin Orlack is on top of him, like gyrating and sucking his blood, he said, Eggers went up to Nicholas Holt and said,
00:23:34
how is that for you?
00:23:37
And he said, I could feel his prosthetic penis on my leg.
00:23:40
And that's why he gave him the kiss.
00:23:43
no!
00:23:45
He said it very like in a lighthearted tone, so it felt like they had that relationship where that was not an inappropriate thing to have happened.
00:23:54
I'm also like, like why didn't they give him like a little thong or something?
00:23:58
Like why did he have to have his prosthetic penis out for that scene?
00:24:01
Cause we didn't see it.
00:24:03
He's bent over.
00:24:04
take it off.
00:24:05
They probably did all the full body makeup in the same day of shooting.
00:24:08
I guess, give him a little loincloth or something.
00:24:11
Poor Nicholas Hole.
00:24:13
Yeah.
00:24:14
Poor Bill Skarsgard.
00:24:17
Bury it all like that.
00:24:20
It's not his.
00:24:21
Still, where is his do you think?
00:24:24
Well, we don't got to talk about it.
00:24:26
But I just I mean between you and me.
00:24:30
I.
00:24:31
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:34
Yeah, between you and me, I just this morning watched that scene again, not even this morning.
00:24:42
I literally an hour ago and just curious like where where does where is his if that's a prosthetic?
00:24:50
Mm-hmm.
00:24:51
Couldn't tell ya.
00:24:52
I'm telling ya, not a whiff of Bill Skarsgard left underneath that costume.
00:24:57
Yeah, you know what I'm, you know, maybe we'll talk about this when that episode comes, but there's another horror movie that Willem Dafoe is in where he, there's a sex scene
00:25:08
that like shows penetration basically.
00:25:10
Yeah, it's Lars Van Trier.
00:25:13
He directed like the Nymphomaniac series.
00:25:15
he's, yeah.
00:25:18
Anyways, we'll get to it one day, but anyways, he was wearing a prosthetic piece for it.
00:25:25
because Willem Dafoe's penis was too big that it was distracting.
00:25:30
And they were like, you're just a guy.
00:25:31
Like you can't have that thing.
00:25:32
And that's more where I'm like, where was it then?
00:25:36
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
00:25:38
Maybe they did like a stand-in or something.
00:25:40
don't know.
00:25:40
I don't know.
00:25:41
Yeah, body double kind of thing.
00:25:43
Mm-hmm.
00:25:45
Anyway, another thing that Bill Skarsgard said about being in his head-to-toe prosthetics is he was in the sarcophagus and he wears contacts, like white contacts that he couldn't
00:25:58
see through.
00:25:59
So he's blind.
00:26:00
He's covering all this makeup.
00:26:01
He has lugging around all these prosthetics.
00:26:03
He's laying in the sarcophagus and it's complete pitch black.
00:26:06
And he had like eight rats on him and
00:26:11
maggots, live maggots all over his body.
00:26:15
And one of the rats started chewing on his eyebrows.
00:26:19
So supposedly there's a cut of the film somewhere that has Count Orlok surprised, my god, a rat is eating my eyebrow face.
00:26:26
That's not what made it to the film, though.
00:26:30
Yeah, unfortunately.
00:26:32
Yeah, that was the scene that I just rewatched.
00:26:36
discovering the sarcophagus, opening the sarcophagus, and then standing.
00:26:39
Right.
00:26:40
Nice.
00:26:41
Yeah.
00:26:42
Yeah, he also has a very affected voice in this.
00:26:50
I guess he worked for like six weeks on trying to get that to just naturally come out of him.
00:26:58
He worked with an opera coach to try to get that lower register going because it's a very deep voice in the film.
00:27:05
He also said that during the table read, he was so excited to like do his voice, right?
00:27:13
But Ralph Innocent speaks before him in the script.
00:27:16
And he said as soon as Innocent started talking, he was like, fuck, because he just has such a naturally deep, gravelly voice.
00:27:23
And he was like, man, he doesn't even have to try.
00:27:27
Aww, poor Bill.
00:27:29
Yeah.
00:27:30
In other news though, if Ralph Innocent could do audiobooks or something, I would like to listen to it.
00:27:37
Does he?
00:27:39
I don't know why I even ask because I don't listen to audiobooks, but maybe I'll start.
00:27:44
I know I can't because I get too distracted.
00:27:47
yeah, it's like a driving thing.
00:27:49
yeah, I use noise a lot as like white noise almost, which is why I rewatch things a lot or watch things that I don't have to pay attention to.
00:28:01
So yeah.
00:28:04
And yeah, I don't really commute anymore, so.
00:28:07
I don't have time to listen to audiobooks or podcasts, which is kind of sad.
00:28:11
Yeah.
00:28:12
well.
00:28:14
well, indeed.
00:28:16
Should we talk?
00:28:17
Well, one more thing about Bill Skarsgard and his paint and stuff.
00:28:22
The costuming and the prosthetics and everything were based on a digital painting that Robert Eggers did.
00:28:29
Which you don't hear a lot of Robert Eggers or the director doing their own art direction.
00:28:37
Multi-talented guy, Dr.
00:28:38
Eggers.
00:28:40
Doctor now, huh?
00:28:41
Well, remember like five or six episodes you accidentally called him Dr.
00:28:45
Eggers?
00:28:47
So I was just perpetuating the joke, you know.
00:28:50
Give the man an honorary doctorate.
00:28:52
They give those things out like candy.
00:28:53
He deserves one, I think.
00:28:55
who?
00:28:56
He deserves one.
00:28:58
I thought you said somebody else had one.
00:29:00
and lots of people have,
00:29:02
I thought you said Kanye had one and I was like, why the fuck would he have one?
00:29:05
And he probably does.
00:29:06
Yeah, he probably does.
00:29:09
Like, I'm literally telling you, anybody can get one.
00:29:12
It's crazy.
00:29:13
it is crazy.
00:29:14
I want one.
00:29:14
Give me one.
00:29:15
What did I do?
00:29:16
Yeah, I would like one.
00:29:18
Yeah.
00:29:19
I haven't earned it.
00:29:20
But I want one.
00:29:21
I don't think most of the people who have gotten one have.
00:29:25
That's true.
00:29:26
Anyway, can we talk about the rats now?
00:29:29
One last thing, can I say one last thing about the prosthetics?
00:29:33
Okay, thank you for being so kind about it.
00:29:38
For the final scene, there's blood just pouring out of Nosferatu.
00:29:43
If you look close enough, it's kind of hard to tell because it's dark, but yeah, his back holes, his eyes, his ears, there's just blood pouring out of every orifice.
00:29:54
And Dr.
00:29:55
Eggers said that
00:29:58
They even had it coming out of his anus.
00:30:00
Like they had rigged it up to do that.
00:30:03
And then they decided that that was not as emotionally effective.
00:30:08
So direct quote, he said, they literally put a cork in it.
00:30:14
no.
00:30:15
dear.
00:30:16
So like to reiterate, poor Bill Skarsgård.
00:30:20
dear, I mean it wasn't in his, it was in the costumes.
00:30:27
dear.
00:30:28
The fact that the costume had a butt hole, like I don't think you needed that.
00:30:32
why did you?
00:30:32
Well, to make the blood come out of it.
00:30:35
They needed a
00:30:36
yeah, they probably created it for that scene.
00:30:39
For the blood.
00:30:41
Yeah, I did notice the blood.
00:30:45
think I think Robert Hager says a really good job lighting.
00:30:47
Unlit movies.
00:30:52
Yeah, I feel like he uses natural lighting well.
00:30:56
Yeah.
00:30:57
I think we talked about the witch.
00:30:58
He uses very little, if any at all, artificial light.
00:31:06
Yeah.
00:31:06
scenes in The Witch where I was like, what's happening here?
00:31:10
This one I feel like I didn't have that.
00:31:13
So he's getting better.
00:31:16
Alright, now we can talk about the Yeah.
00:31:18
Okay.
00:31:20
Well, the rats.
00:31:21
It's very unclear how many rats there were.
00:31:25
Just based on how many interviews there have been of them talking about the rats.
00:31:30
I think the person that I trust the most about the rats is Willem Dafoe.
00:31:36
In every interview.
00:31:38
Yes, he loved them.
00:31:39
He talked about them.
00:31:40
He brought them up and how great of scene partners they are and how much he loved working with them.
00:31:45
So I trust him the most.
00:31:47
He said 2000.
00:31:49
Rats.
00:31:50
he said he worked with 2000 in that one scene.
00:31:54
So I don't know if that's overall, but he said that one scene he worked with 2000 where I'm assuming it's when he's setting fire to everything since it's his scene and he was the
00:32:05
only one really in that one.
00:32:06
So.
00:32:07
Totally.
00:32:09
Yeah, but but Nick Holt said eight thousand and one interview.
00:32:14
He said five thousand in another interview.
00:32:16
Yeah, there's just been so many.
00:32:18
I literally wrote down inconsistent amount of rats used.
00:32:22
Consistent, Willem Dafoe's love of the rats.
00:32:24
at it.
00:32:27
That was the two things I was getting from every interview.
00:32:31
Yeah, they also, everybody complained of the smell too, which you can imagine.
00:32:37
Yeah.
00:32:38
who grew up with lots of mice, actually, I know exactly what smell they're talking about.
00:32:46
Yeah.
00:32:47
to like one up your your mice, but I worked for a reptile zoo for a hot minute and you feed reptiles rats and mice so they had like the room of the smell.
00:32:59
Just terrible, it is terrible.
00:33:01
They do smell.
00:33:03
Yeah, we bought our mice from the pet store to try to save them.
00:33:09
They said, yeah, yeah, yeah, they were feeder mice.
00:33:13
And they said, yeah, there's two boys.
00:33:16
It was not two boys.
00:33:18
And then we had basically a mouse farm for a couple years where we bred mice, we sold them back to the pet store.
00:33:25
kind of counterintuitive to the point that we wanted to make in the first place.
00:33:29
But here's the thing, we would sell back all of the like brown and black ones or like Calico ones and we would keep the white ones because we knew that they were getting, those
00:33:39
ones are the ones that mainly go to the feeders because they're uglier.
00:33:42
So we would keep the white ones and then sell back the cute ones.
00:33:46
So I like to think that our mice got good homes.
00:33:49
Yeah, I would hope so.
00:33:51
I really hope.
00:33:52
They took them back for a dollar each and then they had to stop because we were giving them too much.
00:33:57
They breed very, very quickly.
00:34:00
did you end it all?
00:34:01
How did it end?
00:34:02
We ended up selling some, well, we sold them to them and then we were able to like separate them enough so that like we had like little cages for each of them.
00:34:12
Not little, they were pretty big.
00:34:16
So we sold enough that we were able to have cages for individual ones so that we could separate them so that they'd stop breeding.
00:34:22
And then we just had mice.
00:34:25
Wow, so fun.
00:34:27
I've never kept rodents.
00:34:29
We had gerbils.
00:34:33
We had mice.
00:34:34
We had guinea pigs.
00:34:35
We had rabbits.
00:34:39
Rabbits are rodents, right?
00:34:41
And we had one hamster.
00:34:43
who was made of evil.
00:34:48
I hope he's doing well.
00:34:49
He's dead.
00:34:50
Yeah, I did have a guinea pig.
00:34:52
lied.
00:34:53
I forgot that they're rodents.
00:34:54
I liked the guinea pigs, the guinea pigs were my favorite.
00:34:56
Well the mice I really liked too, they were very sweet.
00:35:00
But so were the guinea pigs.
00:35:02
Yeah.
00:35:03
Anyway.
00:35:05
the rats on this film, they named them in the Latin sets of 10 to keep track of them.
00:35:12
Cute.
00:35:13
I didn't know that.
00:35:14
had little names.
00:35:16
Wow.
00:35:17
Yeah, you're welcome for that one.
00:35:19
Just for you.
00:35:21
I love that.
00:35:23
Yeah, I, Dylan, I went back and forth after we saw this about whether or not they were CGI and it doesn't sound like many of them were if any.
00:35:30
Crazy.
00:35:31
like a lot of them were.
00:35:33
We're there.
00:35:35
At least 2.
00:35:40
Maybe.
00:35:40
We'll never know for sure.
00:35:43
Rat Handler who worked on Nosferatu, please reach out to us.
00:35:46
Right.
00:35:48
They did a really funny interview.
00:35:49
Nicholas Holt and Graham Norton did a really funny interview about that.
00:35:54
Like, how do you find that many rats, especially because a lot of them were trained.
00:36:01
And like you just said, a lot of them were named.
00:36:04
So like, do you just like call like, Hey, do you have 5000 rats?
00:36:09
In Hollywood, yeah, probably.
00:36:11
Yeah.
00:36:12
You know what's funny is that the store that I worked at, the Reptile Store that I worked at, was in Yorba Linda, California, and they provided a lot of bugs for movies, crickets
00:36:24
and roaches and tarantulas and stuff.
00:36:26
Nice.
00:36:26
It's fun.
00:36:29
it was fun.
00:36:31
Anyways, more about things that may or may not be CGI.
00:36:35
Was that a good segue?
00:36:37
Cool, I didn't think too hard about it.
00:36:40
Anyways, thank you.
00:36:45
No, a lot of the shadows that they did, lots of shadows in this movie.
00:36:51
Yeah, a lot of it was practical.
00:36:53
True, yeah.
00:36:55
And Eggers even said...
00:36:57
if they could figure it out in 1922, like we can do it now.
00:37:01
And he said that that was kind of an interesting aspect of filming, of finding the right angles for things and stuff.
00:37:07
However, the iconic shot of Nosferatu's hand, like the shadow of his hand going over the city, CGI, which I thought was interesting.
00:37:18
That one feels like the easiest to figure out.
00:37:21
You just build a miniature city and then do, like that feels so easy.
00:37:24
I guess.
00:37:26
Like of all the ones that you had to like work out that hand coming up and unlocking the door and all that stuff like that seems more complicated than a hand going over a city
00:37:36
like that feels easy.
00:37:37
Yeah, but I mean, would it be more expensive to build an entire city?
00:37:43
Miniature city?
00:37:44
I would like to see it.
00:37:45
Yeah.
00:37:46
Well, what was CGI about it?
00:37:49
Was the shadow CGI or was the city CGI?
00:37:52
He talked about the city being CGI.
00:37:54
So I don't know if that meant everything was, but I would assume it seems more difficult to do a shadow over CGI, because it'd have to move with the buildings and stuff.
00:38:05
You know what I mean?
00:38:06
So I feel like it was probably all CGI, but what do I know?
00:38:12
Not much, but...
00:38:14
I'm just kidding.
00:38:16
I feel like we know a lot.
00:38:18
You know more about movies than I do.
00:38:20
do love the movies.
00:38:22
In this season of unemployed-ness, I've really thought about just working part-time in a movie theater, but none of them will hire me.
00:38:30
Yeah, my movie theater is not hiring either.
00:38:33
Well, it's not that they're not hiring, just that they won't hire me.
00:38:37
well they're probably like, it's too qualified, you know what mean?
00:38:41
Which I never understood.
00:38:42
If I'm applying for the job, means, like, I would like to work here.
00:38:46
Regardless of my qualifications.
00:38:48
Well.
00:38:49
I apply to some jobs just because I'm desperate, but.
00:38:51
Yeah, who isn't these days?
00:38:53
Am I right, ladies?
00:38:56
Fee finder be looking real good right now.
00:39:01
Just kidding, I would never.
00:39:04
I might.
00:39:04
people would buy my feet pics, I would sell them.
00:39:07
100%.
00:39:08
If you're listening to this and you would like to buy my feet pics, hit me up.
00:39:12
I'm open for commish babes.
00:39:18
shoot.
00:39:21
Willem Dafoe and Robert Eggers have worked together in the past on three of now three or four now.
00:39:31
Three.
00:39:32
Watch, not Watchman.
00:39:34
You're right.
00:39:35
You're right.
00:39:35
And he was not in The Witch.
00:39:37
So Watchman, Northman, not Watchman, Northman, The Lighthouse, and Nosferatu.
00:39:47
And in one interview,
00:39:48
the interviewer asked Robert Eggers and Willem Dafoe, you know, what does it what does the next Willem Dafoe and Robert Eggers picture look like?
00:39:56
And Willem kind of looked at Robert like he's got a secret or something.
00:40:00
So Robert let's bill that literally two weeks ago from today.
00:40:05
It would have been because it was a week prior to when the interview happened, which was a week ago.
00:40:10
Robert Eggers approached Willem Dafoe about two potential roles.
00:40:16
And the
00:40:16
only film that we are pretty sure is happening with him.
00:40:20
I don't think it's like confirmed.
00:40:21
I think it's mostly rumored, but it's been rumored by good sources is the remake of Labyrinth, the David Bowie movie, which could be interesting to see Willem Dafoe in that
00:40:34
movie.
00:40:34
And then he's always said that the witch and the lighthouse are part of a trilogy, trilogy, like a folklore trilogy.
00:40:44
interesting, okay.
00:40:45
So there is sort of that third unknown folklore movie that maybe he's starting to think about.
00:40:53
I would like to see it.
00:40:56
I think, yeah, I like Willem Dafoe.
00:41:00
And I think one of my favorite things about watching him in this movie was it was so clear that he was having the time of his life.
00:41:13
He was enjoying every moment of that movie.
00:41:19
And you could just tell, not because he was like, you
00:41:22
not taking it seriously, but like it just irradiated off of him.
00:41:26
And I also think Aaron Taylor Johnson was having a great time too.
00:41:32
Both of them just seemed like they were living every moment.
00:41:37
And I liked that a lot.
00:41:39
Yeah, he did look like he was having a good time.
00:41:42
Yeah.
00:41:43
And in the press too, the press junkets he was doing.
00:41:47
He was having a grand old time.
00:41:49
Yeah, I think all the cast was.
00:41:50
They were having some nice little laughs.
00:41:54
Yeah, we haven't talked about Lily Rose Depp at all.
00:41:58
She was, she was great too.
00:42:00
She's very committed.
00:42:02
Yes.
00:42:03
None of her body work was CGI.
00:42:05
That was all completely unaided by special effects, no wire work.
00:42:10
She did some weird shit too.
00:42:13
Yeah.
00:42:13
convulsing, backbending and hovering and eyes rolling to the back of her head drooling.
00:42:23
Yeah, it definitely would be quite a role to take on and you have to be committed for it.
00:42:31
So I'm glad she was.
00:42:32
It would not have been good if she had a half-assed it.
00:42:37
Yeah.
00:42:39
Which apparently originally Anya Taylor-Joy was supposed to have her role, which makes sense.
00:42:43
They've worked together and she has that look about her.
00:42:47
She can do period pieces, you know?
00:42:49
Not everybody can do period pieces these days.
00:42:52
Yeah.
00:42:53
You know who was supposed to play...
00:42:55
Thomas.
00:42:56
Yeah.
00:42:57
Harry Styles.
00:43:01
No, I really can't.
00:43:03
I'm not, that's nothing to say about Harry Styles.
00:43:06
I think he's a fine actor and I trust Robert Eggers.
00:43:10
So clearly if he cast him, it's because he saw something.
00:43:13
I can't picture it in my head right now, but that's because when I picture Dracula's assistant, it's
00:43:20
Nicholas Holt period at this point.
00:43:24
he's done it twice.
00:43:25
That's his role now.
00:43:29
But yeah, they both dropped out because this movie took like nine years to get made.
00:43:33
It was a long time.
00:43:34
And at the original point, before Harry was cast, think even Bill Skarsgård had talked to Eggers and he was supposed to play Thomas.
00:43:46
And then they talked about maybe Harding.
00:43:49
And then it got shelved.
00:43:51
10 years later, Bill Skarsgard sees that the movie's getting made.
00:43:55
He reaches this, he's like, Eggers, hello, we're doing this, right?
00:43:59
Eggers is like, I cast Nicholas Holt as Thomas.
00:44:01
And he's like, okay, great, Harding?
00:44:03
He's like, I cast Aaron Taylor Johnson.
00:44:05
And he's like, okay.
00:44:06
So I guess Bill Skarsgard wrote a very passionate letter being like, hey, I need to be in this.
00:44:12
Like, I read the script already, I need to be in it.
00:44:15
What's going on here?
00:44:16
And Eggers was like,
00:44:18
What about Count Orlok?
00:44:19
And Bill Skarsgard said he just goes, what about him?
00:44:23
Hahaha
00:44:25
Oh, funny.
00:44:27
Yeah, it really was.
00:44:29
Well, because he originally read for Frederick is who we originally read for.
00:44:34
And then Eggers was like, you can be Thomas.
00:44:37
Yeah.
00:44:38
And then they switched it and and yeah, feels like Thomas can be Thomas?
00:44:43
No, Frederick?
00:44:44
No.
00:44:45
Or luck.
00:44:48
Every time we say Orlok or every time I read Orlok, I just think, Lof?
00:44:52
Yeah, it kind of looks like him.
00:44:55
The Snowman from the children's movie?
00:44:59
Who are you talking about?
00:45:02
Out Olaf.
00:45:04
From a series of force.
00:45:05
events.
00:45:06
That's why I think that because his name is Count Olaf.
00:45:10
That's why I think that, not because the fucking snowman.
00:45:13
thank you for putting that connection together in my brain.
00:45:16
The fact that in my mind there is one Olaf you could have possibly been talking about I was like, yeah, of course count Olaf.
00:45:24
Why?
00:45:24
Like, who else?
00:45:25
you're so right.
00:45:26
That's where I was.
00:45:27
I don't know why I was thinking of the snowman, but I couldn't get Olaf out of my head.
00:45:32
I was like, why does this make me think of Olaf?
00:45:34
That's why.
00:45:37
Count Olaf.
00:45:38
Man, that really underrated film.
00:45:41
The Jim Carrey one?
00:45:42
Yeah, the series of unfortunate man's dream carry.
00:45:44
Yeah
00:45:45
see, I think the series did it a little bit better.
00:45:48
I didn't watch the series.
00:45:49
it's pretty good.
00:45:50
Every episode is a book.
00:45:53
So you get a little bit more of it.
00:45:55
Because the thing I didn't like about the movie was that it was three books crammed into one.
00:45:59
It was too much.
00:46:02
Yeah.
00:46:02
Some of the casting choices?
00:46:03
Fantastic.
00:46:04
But pacing-wise, no, no, Yeah.
00:46:09
I really liked it.
00:46:10
Maybe I'll watch the show.
00:46:12
until the show came out and then I was like, wait, the show's kinda cooking.
00:46:16
Okay, maybe I'll watch it.
00:46:17
It didn't come out that long ago, huh?
00:46:19
In the last...
00:46:20
five, ten years.
00:46:22
Yeah, not super long ago.
00:46:24
Because the movie came out like 20 years ago.
00:46:28
Don't say things like that.
00:46:29
Easy.
00:46:31
Yeah, well we were in middle school.
00:46:33
That's like 25 years ago.
00:46:35
I was not in middle school in 1990, first of all, which was 20 years ago.
00:46:41
I'm kidding, can you imagine?
00:46:42
Oh my god, some people still think 1980 is 20 years ago.
00:46:46
That's, yeah, that's a little much.
00:46:49
Be realistic about your delusions, people.
00:46:51
Yeah, please, at the very least.
00:46:57
anyway, I was surprised to see a fun fact about Christopher Columbus.
00:47:03
Great.
00:47:04
The director.
00:47:05
Yeah, it's like not the man.
00:47:08
Yeah, the director.
00:47:09
He was a producer on this film.
00:47:12
He was terrified it wouldn't go anywhere near Bill Skarsgard when he was in costume, which I think is really funny.
00:47:19
He's not really known for scary movies.
00:47:21
He's known for Harry Potter.
00:47:22
That's about it.
00:47:23
and Home Alone.
00:47:25
And Home Alone.
00:47:26
Yeah.
00:47:27
Christmas movies.
00:47:28
Yeah, I thought it was him that's making the Odyssey remake, but it's Christopher Nolan that's making the
00:47:36
Nolan not.
00:47:37
Yeah, but yeah, that's true.
00:47:40
I guess Bill like cracked a joke and that's when Chris Columbus was like, nevermind.
00:47:45
He's not scary.
00:47:48
Which is fun.
00:47:50
Exactly.
00:47:51
I'm just saying.
00:47:55
I hate to shit all over Jared Leto, but I'll do it.
00:47:59
What did you say that one time, if he was close and his mouth was open?
00:48:04
That was the most out of pocket thing you've ever said on this show, by the way.
00:48:10
I think about it constantly, but anyways.
00:48:15
Yeah, but like that whole bullshit of like, I'm playing a dark evil character.
00:48:18
I have to send my coworkers dead rats and...
00:48:22
use condoms, go fuck yourself first of all.
00:48:25
Second of all, don't ever look at me again.
00:48:29
And third of all, that's why people like those scars guard are superior because they play these crazy characters get completely lost in it.
00:48:37
And they don't ever sacrifice the comfort of their coworkers.
00:48:40
Yep.
00:48:41
I agree.
00:48:43
Maybe you're just not a good actor, Jared Leto.
00:48:46
stick to singing.
00:48:47
You were good at that for a minute.
00:48:49
Stick to it.
00:48:51
Leaving.
00:48:52
Yeah.
00:48:54
Get out of here!
00:48:56
shit, running your cold or something.
00:48:59
No, don't do that.
00:49:02
Just leave everyone alone, please.
00:49:05
Aye, aye.
00:49:07
I didn't even know there was a 1979 version of Nosferatu.
00:49:10
There's 800 versions of Dracula, period.
00:49:14
Yeah, well, Nosferatu specifically, there was a 1979 version and the castle they used in that one was the same castle they used in this one, the Pernstein Castle.
00:49:25
Yes, they use like nine different castles in this too.
00:49:28
Every fun fact was just they use this castle and it's a different castle than the last fun fact.
00:49:35
They used every castle.
00:49:38
But yeah, think like Dracula knows for sure it's the same thing.
00:49:42
Like they literally ripped it off.
00:49:44
That was the whole point.
00:49:45
The only reason that the sunlight kills him is because that didn't happen in Dracula and F.W.
00:49:51
Brunel was like, this is how I get away with it.
00:49:56
yay.
00:49:57
so yeah, same thing.
00:49:58
Same thing.
00:50:00
Should we talk about SpongeBob?
00:50:02
Absolutely, after you.
00:50:04
Okay, well that is where I heard about Spongebob.
00:50:06
Nosferatu the first time is on Spongebob as a child.
00:50:10
I did know of him from that.
00:50:14
But we found the story of why Nosferatu was included in that episode of Spongebob if you want me to tell it.
00:50:20
Okay, well, everybody knows that episode.
00:50:25
We know and love it.
00:50:26
It's the hash slinging slasher episode.
00:50:28
Spongebob thinks that all these mysterious things happening around the Krusty Krab and and Squidward too.
00:50:33
think that it's from the hashling slasher turns out to be some kid looking for a fry cook job.
00:50:38
He's got a spatula in his hand and which is a trigger the lighting anyway, but one mysterious thing that isn't explained is the lights flickering on and off.
00:50:47
The kid wasn't doing the lights flickering on and off.
00:50:49
Originally, that was supposed to be a joke about a guy called floorboard Larry who just lives in the floorboards of the Krusty Krab.
00:50:57
Yeah, which I wouldn't have minded.
00:51:02
I
00:51:02
loved that.
00:51:03
it would have been fun to have another character, but Jay Lender was the writer of that episode.
00:51:07
He didn't think that it worked and didn't really have the time they needed to set up the character.
00:51:14
So he thought back to when he was a kid, he used to read these magazines called Famous Monsters of Filmland.
00:51:21
And in most of those prints, there was that picture of Nosferatu where he's like in the doorway with his hand kind of out.
00:51:28
So that's what makes it in SpongeBob.
00:51:30
And it just...
00:51:31
that image just sort of stuck with Jay over the years.
00:51:34
And he's like, that's going to be my scapegoat.
00:51:36
Who's going to be flickering the lights?
00:51:38
And now, yeah, it's a recurring gag on the show.
00:51:41
That's how most of us millennials at least know of Nosferatu.
00:51:47
Yeah, I think that's definitely a lot of our first introductions to the character.
00:51:50
Yeah.
00:51:54
I miss Floorboard Larry.
00:51:57
I just met him and I feel like I've known him.
00:52:00
Also interesting that they were going to have two Larrys.
00:52:04
Well, that's another reason it is probably their lobster floorboard Larry.
00:52:09
Lobster Floboard Larry, the one and only.
00:52:12
is Larry, Larry lobster's in the first season, right?
00:52:14
Because this episode's in the second season.
00:52:17
I think so.
00:52:19
I genuinely couldn't tell you what any of the seasons are.
00:52:24
I remember episodes and that's it.
00:52:27
Yeah.
00:52:27
Well, to be fair, all of the most iconic episodes are in season one and season two.
00:52:32
Yeah.
00:52:35
That show fucking slapped.
00:52:37
That show was so fucking good.
00:52:39
Yeah.
00:52:41
I remember at one point in my childhood, I wanted to write comic books.
00:52:48
And I don't remember what I don't know if I was like reading a book that told me to do this or what, but they're like, you need to take an idea and sort of make it your own,
00:52:56
which is very much like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and like they're identical.
00:53:00
And I was like, OK, but I took it a little bit more like literally.
00:53:05
And so my character was
00:53:09
Pizza Bill, wait, SpongeBob SquarePants, Pizza Bill Triangle shorts was the character that I created for my comic book.
00:53:20
Yeah.
00:53:21
Can't believe it didn't get published.
00:53:25
Yeah.
00:53:26
I would like to read it.
00:53:28
I don't have it or else I would.
00:53:30
crazy.
00:53:32
I think Patrick Star was in it also.
00:53:34
I straight straight up Patrick Star.
00:53:37
Yeah.
00:53:39
Not even like Robert Circle or anything.
00:53:46
Damn.
00:53:47
The copyright goes crazy.
00:53:48
Yeah.
00:53:51
like T-Move SpongeBob.
00:53:53
I have two more fun facts.
00:53:54
How many fun facts do you have left?
00:53:56
I have, one.
00:54:00
Okay, great.
00:54:01
I'll do one, you do one, I'll do one.
00:54:04
Great.
00:54:04
Look at us working this out live on air.
00:54:06
Okay, one.
00:54:09
Robert Eggers had a specific lens filter that, like he had a glass company commission specific lens filters for filming that basically made it look like black and white, but
00:54:21
would let in one or two colors.
00:54:23
So that's how he achieved a lot of the look.
00:54:26
of this movie because like brother hates color.
00:54:32
Despises it.
00:54:34
but yeah, so mainly we see the ones with like the blue light coming in or the orange light coming in.
00:54:40
Like those were the two that I think he used the most, obviously.
00:54:44
But I thought that was really interesting.
00:54:46
Commissioning his own little filters.
00:54:48
Very smart.
00:54:49
The I mean, the one scene that really stuck out to me as like, a turning point in the color of the film was when Nicholas holds characters running towards the camera, and the
00:54:58
sun's rising.
00:55:00
That was like, my god, there's color finally, which makes sense because he's dying, Nosferatu is dying.
00:55:06
I thought that was really kind of a poignant kind of beautiful.
00:55:10
Like now there's color because this like evil is gone.
00:55:13
Yeah.
00:55:14
Yeah.
00:55:16
My fun fact was that the wolves were actually Czech shepherds.
00:55:22
Yeah.
00:55:23
they didn't, supposedly they didn't really mind Bill Scar's guarding his costume.
00:55:26
They were kind of buddies because they were worried about that.
00:55:29
They were worried that the dogs are going to be like, what the fuck is that?
00:55:32
Yeah, if they sense off vibes, they're not into it.
00:55:36
yeah, they were buddies though.
00:55:38
Yeah, I did see one interview of Nicholas Holt talking about his scene, because he said he was like in the corner kind of amping himself up because he's supposed to be running.
00:55:47
So he was like running in place and getting all sweaty for the scene.
00:55:51
And he said he just looked over and that was causing the dogs to get riled up too.
00:55:56
And he just thought for a moment, what happens if I don't outrun my book?
00:56:00
Yeah.
00:56:03
but yeah, my final fun fact was in an interview, Robert Eggers was asked which adaptation kind of influenced his or did he feel was like the most important to his his adaptation.
00:56:19
And he said funnily enough that it was Mel Brooks's Dracula Dead and Loving It, which was a parody about Dracula, because he said it showed all of the things that were very like
00:56:31
silly and ridiculous in the story that didn't really make a lot of sense.
00:56:34
And so he was able to kind of correct course on those things.
00:56:38
So one of the examples he gave was when Thomas is at the village before he goes to the castle.
00:56:43
And in the Mel Brooks version, everybody's like, don't go in there or lock the evil.
00:56:48
You don't, don't.
00:56:48
And he's like, I'm going to go anyway.
00:56:51
And so he's like, obviously I wanted them to speak Roma and have these Roma people, you know, not speaking a language that Thomas understands.
00:56:59
That way they're giving him these warnings.
00:57:01
but he doesn't listen because he can't understand them.
00:57:03
So I thought that was a very smart way to go about it.
00:57:08
Yeah.
00:57:09
and interesting.
00:57:11
Mel Brooks.
00:57:13
You silly.
00:57:15
I don't know how he got away with some of the shit that he got away with.
00:57:18
It was a different time.
00:57:20
blazing saddles, Oh my god.
00:57:24
Yeah.
00:57:26
I can imagine.
00:57:28
I don't know how he convinced people to say the things that they say in that movie.
00:57:32
It's funny, though.
00:57:33
great, well, maybe that's how.
00:57:35
I guess.
00:57:38
is getting away with it.
00:57:39
You know, it's...
00:57:43
That's the problem these days.
00:57:44
Comedians are always like, we can't be offensive anymore.
00:57:48
Yes you can.
00:57:48
You just have to be fucking funny.
00:57:50
It's always sunny, it's been doing it for fucking years.
00:57:53
That show is wildly offensive.
00:57:55
It's also fucking hilarious.
00:57:57
That's why they get away with it.
00:58:00
You shouldn't be offending anyone.
00:58:02
No, but I think the point of that is like these characters are like so terrible and they never win and that's the whole point.
00:58:10
It's like we're not advocating it.
00:58:11
We're showing that like these shitty people suck and it's funny because they suck so bad.
00:58:17
Yeah.
00:58:17
Yeah.
00:58:18
Yeah.
00:58:18
Yeah.
00:58:18
Yeah.
00:58:19
Anyways, that's my commentary on Matt Rife.
00:58:25
I hate him.
00:58:27
Yeah, he's just mean to be mean.
00:58:28
Like, he's not funny at all.
00:58:31
That's the problem.
00:58:33
Anyway, yeah, that's right it
00:58:37
Okay.
00:58:38
How scary did you think it was?
00:58:40
I gave it a 1.5.
00:58:42
I do think there were moments of tension.
00:58:45
There were a couple like, you know, creepy things in it.
00:58:49
I do feel personally for me, part of being scared is the unknown.
00:58:56
Not knowing what's coming, not knowing what's happening.
00:58:59
And because this was so faithful to the original, I didn't have a lot of that.
00:59:03
I kind of knew what was gonna happen.
00:59:05
There was obviously some...
00:59:07
I didn't know Harding was gonna do that, but you know what I mean, like, that was wild, but not scary.
00:59:15
Well, kind of, but not in the way we're talking about.
00:59:21
What about you, as someone who's never experienced this story?
00:59:24
Yeah, I gave it two and a half.
00:59:27
Yeah, it was dark.
00:59:28
I thought Orlok was pretty terrifying.
00:59:31
Nicholas Hull and Lily Rosdette portrayed fear in a way that was very immersive.
00:59:37
I think kind of the sorrow of Frederick was also really terrifying in its own way.
00:59:43
That one scene where Orlok is just dangling the children was fucking wicked.
00:59:50
Like that was just evil.
00:59:54
so yeah, I gave it a two and a half.
00:59:57
Yeah, that was absolutely fucking insane.
00:59:59
I could not believe that scene was in there.
01:00:02
Yeah, we can get to that when we get to the fucked up score, but like...
01:00:05
The fact that everybody was like, Terrifier 3 kills kids, they don't show it on screen.
01:00:09
Even fucking Terrifier 3 did not show that on screen.
01:00:14
Yep.
01:00:17
How sexy did you think it was?
01:00:19
I can't imagine anything hornier than this movie.
01:00:23
I really can't unless there were some tentacles involved.
01:00:26
I think this is the sexiest movie there is.
01:00:31
And Dylan even, this is me talking about Dylan.
01:00:34
I said I was going to.
01:00:35
He even walked out of the theater like, I'm fucking bricked, man.
01:00:40
Like, it wasn't just me.
01:00:43
I think people.
01:00:45
If you're not coming out of this movie, feeling something.
01:00:49
Someone described this movie as uncomfortably bricked up, so I'm glad that that is exactly what your husband felt.
01:00:57
I don't even think he knows that we rate these movies on their like sexy factor.
01:01:01
I don't think he knows that.
01:01:03
So the fact that he said it was like, you're not wrong.
01:01:08
Anyway, I mean, there weren't any tentacles, so I gave it a four and a half.
01:01:12
Valid.
01:01:13
Yeah.
01:01:14
Yeah.
01:01:15
How about you?
01:01:16
I give it a four.
01:01:17
This is a very sexy movie.
01:01:21
They were not shying away from that at all.
01:01:23
It was a central theme.
01:01:26
I do think that there were moments that were not so sexy, that took that rating down a little bit.
01:01:34
Like it's not pure sex, which is like Jennifer's body, right?
01:01:37
Like that's just sexy all the way through.
01:01:40
This had some moments, you know.
01:01:42
A lot of pus, a lot of vomiting, lot of that kind of stuff that I was like, all right, maybe not.
01:01:49
But still a very solid sexy rating.
01:01:51
is...
01:01:52
Yeah.
01:01:52
Yeah.
01:01:53
Yeah.
01:01:55
Yeah, just a vibe, you know, there's just a, whew.
01:01:59
It was something.
01:02:01
Don't think about it too hard now.
01:02:03
I'm trying.
01:02:04
It's been an hour and five minutes of thinking about it.
01:02:09
Well how fucked up did you think it was?
01:02:11
I gave it a two.
01:02:13
It's pretty fucked up.
01:02:15
Well, not pretty fucked up, but like definitely had moments of like very fucked up.
01:02:20
Again, the children thing.
01:02:24
I wasn't.
01:02:26
didn't laugh when it happened, but there was definitely like a that came out of me when he threw.
01:02:34
That was, that was like alright.
01:02:37
It was a lot.
01:02:38
That was a very, the thud was crazy.
01:02:43
Anyways, so that was a bit much effective though.
01:02:51
And then yeah, Harding, his final moments was a little fucked up.
01:02:56
That was a little much.
01:02:57
What about you?
01:02:58
well, I gave it a 2.5.
01:03:00
I wanted to rank it higher just based on the one scene, the children scene.
01:03:09
But I mean, I just I couldn't make myself do it.
01:03:10
It was just the one scene that was not pretty, you know, basic.
01:03:17
But I still gave it a two and half for that one scene because it was intense.
01:03:21
The screaming.
01:03:23
The screaming alone.
01:03:24
was so hard to listen to.
01:03:27
And just like you, like you go in there, you go into the room and you see him and just the like crackling noise.
01:03:34
It's just, nope.
01:03:35
I, my mouth was a gape.
01:03:37
Yeah.
01:03:39
Yeah, two and a half.
01:03:40
There.
01:03:41
Overall, what'd think?
01:03:44
I really, really liked this.
01:03:46
It was so beautiful.
01:03:47
Like there were I put like a little like text review in our Discord.
01:03:54
Yeah, you haven't?
01:03:56
No, I like to keep it a mystery.
01:03:58
I did watch this and think kd's gonna love this, but I'm glad I was right.
01:04:03
Yeah.
01:04:05
But no, I mean, I even said like, it's a fucking beautiful film.
01:04:09
There's scenes in it that I want framed in my home.
01:04:12
Like the, the, what's it called?
01:04:16
Not a carousel, the, the carriage going towards the castle.
01:04:23
Gorgeous.
01:04:24
The like last scene of Nosferatu and Ellen.
01:04:28
kind of with the flowers and yeah, beautiful.
01:04:34
I was gonna say I want an oil painting of that.
01:04:37
just, that was a stunning final shot.
01:04:41
So beautiful.
01:04:42
As I'm saying, I want it framed in my home.
01:04:44
I want it on my wall.
01:04:46
Just a beautiful film.
01:04:49
So enjoyable to watch.
01:04:52
I can see how it wouldn't be quite as effective for people who had seen the original because it was so similar and so true to the story.
01:05:01
But one thing I did say that I had a problem with, and on a second watch I didn't have as big of a problem.
01:05:08
Okay, so...
01:05:09
Two things, I did have a little bit of a hard time in the theater understanding Bill.
01:05:13
kd, do you know what my letterbox review of this movie was?
01:05:17
This movie would go crazy with subtitles.
01:05:22
I had no idea what he was saying.
01:05:24
I was just enjoying the vibes.
01:05:26
Well, so that and it kind of took me out of the movie a little bit.
01:05:30
I was so desperate to know what he was saying and to be able to appreciate that he was speaking the way he was speaking and able to get those noises at him.
01:05:38
But I couldn't understand it.
01:05:39
And the theater that we were at, we were at a Fat Cats and I love Fat Cats, but the the bottom, the top subtitles were exactly flush with the top of the screen.
01:05:51
The bottom subtitles were cut off.
01:05:54
So we could only read the top half of the subtitles.
01:05:56
So when anybody was speaking a different language, when Orlok was saying things in other languages, we got a little bit, but it was hard to read.
01:06:06
So like between that...
01:06:08
almost like, they're doing it when he's speaking a different language.
01:06:11
Can you just do it all the time, though?
01:06:12
Because I would love full subtitles all the time in movies.
01:06:16
Please.
01:06:16
I can't hear anything.
01:06:17
I'm so sorry.
01:06:21
I know, but it's usually like select showings, like at certain random times and stuff.
01:06:25
Like, it's not as normalized as I wish it was.
01:06:28
That's true, that's true.
01:06:30
But anyway, on my second watch, I did have subtitles one way or another, and it was so much more enjoyable.
01:06:38
But anyway, I did dock it for that.
01:06:41
did dock it for, you know, just...
01:06:44
It could have been a little more original.
01:06:46
It could have gone a little harder, maybe.
01:06:50
Somehow.
01:06:51
It wasn't like the perfect film, but it was by far my favorite film of 2024.
01:06:56
I gave it a four and a half.
01:06:57
Solid.
01:06:58
Yeah, I really, really loved it.
01:07:00
I cannot wait for it to come to Vaude so I can watch it a bit any time.
01:07:05
Yeah, very fair.
01:07:10
Sometimes you must.
01:07:12
Yeah.
01:07:13
How about you?
01:07:14
This was not my favorite movie of 2024.
01:07:18
I know, it stays, I saw the TV glow, it always will be.
01:07:23
And that I changed to a five.
01:07:25
Didn't even give it a five in our episode and it has since become that.
01:07:29
Surprisingly, this isn't even my favorite vampire movie of the year.
01:07:34
Monster loving monster, what's it called?
01:07:35
Monster lo- what?
01:07:39
What is it?
01:07:39
Humanist vampire seeking, suicidal, consenting suicidal person.
01:07:45
Yes, it is really good.
01:07:46
You guys should watch it.
01:07:49
But anyways, regardless, it is a fantastic film.
01:07:52
I think it's a great adaptation.
01:07:55
Yes, I would love to have subtitles, but I do think maybe that's a me issue because I just can't, I don't have good hearing.
01:08:02
will watch subtitles on sh- on Buffy, which I think I know every word to, so.
01:08:07
But yeah, that, I didn't really dock it for that.
01:08:14
The only thing that I really docked it for was what I have already said, which is that I just wish that he had put more of himself in it.
01:08:21
I'm fine with the levels of like brutality that's in it or like the like the limits that he pushed in terms of gore and like shocking scenes.
01:08:29
Like that's fine.
01:08:30
And that's where I feel like it shined.
01:08:33
But again, yeah, just I think the parts that he added or changed were the best parts of the movie.
01:08:41
I just wish I had seen more of that.
01:08:43
Like I really wanted Eggers to put his whole pussy into this because he has proven himself to be a very intelligent, creative writer.
01:08:53
And that's kind of more of what I wanted to see.
01:08:56
But I still really enjoyed it.
01:08:57
I think it's, again, beautifully shot and I give it a four out of five.
01:09:01
Nice.
01:09:01
Yeah, solid rating, I think.
01:09:03
Wrong, I mean it's 80%.
01:09:05
Okay, that's a very good rating.
01:09:07
B.
01:09:09
Is this a B movie to you?
01:09:11
Okay, first of all, only in America is that the rating system.
01:09:15
It's a good movie.
01:09:17
It could have been a great movie.
01:09:22
Fair.
01:09:23
I'll take that.
01:09:25
And it might be a perfect movie, just gotta watch it couple more times with subs.
01:09:28
to your point.
01:09:29
Fair, yeah.
01:09:32
Would you survive?
01:09:34
No, I'm giving myself to count Orlok.
01:09:37
Yeah.
01:09:38
And Count Olaf.
01:09:43
All of the counts.
01:09:45
The creepy, lanky, child murdering counts.
01:09:50
Yeah, yeah.
01:09:52
Valid.
01:09:53
Yeah, would you?
01:09:55
no I don't think so.
01:09:57
It's not looking good for women in this movie.
01:10:02
No.
01:10:04
yeah, I do, I do think I might be the type of person to call out to Orlok.
01:10:11
I also would absolutely sacrifice myself for the people that I love and also an entire town of people.
01:10:18
my long enough.
01:10:19
Yeah.
01:10:22
Yeah.
01:10:23
so yeah, think if it came down to, everybody you love is gonna die or else you're gonna die, I'd be like, that's, yeah, we can go option two there, that's fine.
01:10:36
Yeah.
01:10:38
next week we're going to talk about what we do in the shadows, but I think you already kind of know what that's about, right?
01:10:44
I don't, you don't need to predict it, right?
01:10:48
Yeah.
01:10:49
It's more vampires!
01:10:51
Yeah, so when I made the schedule, we had not put Nosferatu on it, and then I kind of forgot about it, so.
01:10:58
Should we switch it with something?
01:10:59
Like on the fly?
01:11:00
That's worked out for me really well in the past.
01:11:04
Should we?
01:11:05
Let me look at the calendar.
01:11:07
We could switch it with...
01:11:10
Yeah, we could switch it.
01:11:13
Do you want to switch it with something?
01:11:15
Yeah, I mean, I do really want to watch, you know, what we do in the shadows.
01:11:18
I've never seen the movie.
01:11:20
We can, we can just switch it so it's not two zombies right next to each other.
01:11:25
Vampire, why do I keep saying zombies?
01:11:27
That's the second time I've done that.
01:11:32
Do you wanna switch it with attack the block?
01:11:36
Sure.
01:11:37
Okay, predict attack the block, kd.
01:11:39
Okay.
01:11:41
Attack the Block is about a college town.
01:11:51
Mm-hmm.
01:11:52
and they are going to have a party.
01:11:57
Yeah.
01:11:58
and then aliens come and they attack the block.
01:12:03
The block party.
01:12:04
Yep.
01:12:07
And it's a little bit of a miscommunication film because the alien leader is like, you need to attack the block.
01:12:15
So they go and they're like listening to the humans and the humans are like, are you coming to the block party?
01:12:20
And the aliens are like, that's our target, the block party, whatever that means.
01:12:26
And so they figure out what it's going to be and they attack it.
01:12:30
And it's a college town, so it's like a lot of college kids and they're all drunk, so it doesn't go well for them.
01:12:39
But there is a, you know, motley crew of college students who are able to.
01:12:47
convince the aliens slash attack them enough to where they don't finish their attack on the block.
01:12:56
And then they leave.
01:12:58
Amazing, they saved the block.
01:13:00
Love that.
01:13:02
Kind of.
01:13:04
Yeah, I mean, you shouldn't know it's aliens because I put the aliens in my Hear Me Out presentation.
01:13:13
great.
01:13:16
Yeah, it's not really a...
01:13:19
No, it's in England.
01:13:21
It's in London.
01:13:22
It's British, isn't it?
01:13:25
The stars John Boyega.
01:13:28
Yeah.
01:13:30
Yeah, yeah, but it's it's a tower block, not an apartment building.
01:13:37
It's not it's not a block.
01:13:40
It's in England.
01:13:42
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:43
Yeah.
01:13:45
Yeah, we'll do a little alien movie.
01:13:47
Why not?
01:13:48
Okay, it's not like we just did one.
01:13:50
Did we just do one?
01:13:51
We hit the faculty.
01:13:53
my god, that was ages ago!
01:13:56
Okay, well you made me switch it on the fly so I could only do so many!
01:14:00
Okay, I'm into it.
01:14:01
I like aliens.
01:14:03
It's really the only thing that this movie was missing.
01:14:05
That's true.
01:14:07
The two are a perfect pairing together.
01:14:11
I'll give that one a point five.
01:14:13
great, no!
01:14:16
I hope not!
01:14:17
We're not allowed to 0.5.
01:14:18
We never did.
01:14:19
I don't know why.
01:14:19
If we're allowed to give a 4.5, I don't know why we aren't allowed to give 0.5.
01:14:23
But one has always been our lowest rating.
01:14:25
I know, I once suggested we change it and you said no.
01:14:28
I don't know why not though.
01:14:30
I like it.
01:14:31
Yeah, I mean, I'm fine to switch it now if you'd like.
01:14:35
We can start going to point fives.
01:14:37
you.
01:14:37
You're a .5 overall.
01:14:39
Night swim?
01:14:41
You can stay at your one compared to terrifier.
01:14:44
okay.
01:14:45
Well, now we're going to have to go back to those re-rankings because you switched it up a little bit there, so.
01:14:50
Terrifier's not better than Night Swim.
01:14:53
Anyways, we're really yapping now.
01:14:56
Yeah, sorry.
01:14:59
It's fine.
01:15:00
What else is a podcast if not for us to yap?
01:15:04
Cool.
01:15:04
So next week we'll talk about Attack the Block.
01:15:07
Okay.
01:15:08
And we'll see you there.
01:15:10
Then.
01:15:10
Not there.
01:15:11
It's still here.
01:15:14
It's here, but then.
01:15:16
Exactly.
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